Its copy and paste time

Cherry Hill, NJ

#20915 Apr 28, 2013
Let us not forget where many of the inhabitants of northern Maghreb came to North Africa, and where they came from -“Neighboring mountain peoples, the Berbers and Tuaregs, appear to have occasionally attacked outlying farms and were happy to enslave anyone they found there, Moors, renegades, or slaves…things could turn much worse with these nomads, who often took them far into the interior ‘feeding them as little as possible…’ leaving them no hope of eventual escape and contact with fellow Europeans.” Christian slaves , Muslim Masters p. 87 , 2003.

Otherwise they would of course appear to have the complexion of the Masmuda and Zanata who were the dominant Berber people of Tangiers and coastal Morocco up until the 16th century, and of course described as black skinned by your Syrian, Andalusian and Iranian brethren who also settled north Africa by the 100s of thousands.(Abu Shama 13th, Ibn Butlan and Nasir Khusrau.
Its copy and paste time

Cherry Hill, NJ

#20916 Apr 28, 2013
Ibn Manzur wrote essentially similar to Dhahabi in his Lisaan al-Arab:
"The Arabs don’t say a man is white [or:“white man,” rajul abyad∙] due to a white complexion. Rather, whiteness [al-abyad] with them means an external appearance that is free from blemish; when they mean a white complexion they say ‘red’(ahmar)… And the Arabs attribute white skin to the slaves."

Ibn Khaldun THE ANDALUSIAN considered Arabia part of the Sudan.

“DANGER!!”

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#20918 Apr 29, 2013
Its copy and paste time wrote:
Ibn Manzur wrote essentially similar to Dhahabi in his Lisaan al-Arab:
"The Arabs don’t say a man is white [or:“white man,” rajul abyad∙] due to a white complexion. Rather, whiteness [al-abyad] with them means an external appearance that is free from blemish; when they mean a white complexion they say ‘red’(ahmar)… And the Arabs attribute white skin to the slaves."
Ibn Khaldun THE ANDALUSIAN considered Arabia part of the Sudan.
All of the BÚLLSHÍT that you've just cranked out is nothing more than unsubstantiated rhetoric.

::IT MEANS NOTHING::

and

::IT PROVES NOTHING::

•••

What I have that will easily counter your foolish jibberish,

is the cold hard unbiased rationale of the latest up to date scientific DNA analysis:

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...

"We present dense, genome-wide SNP genotyping array data (730,000 sites) from seven North African populations, spanning from Egypt to Morocco, and one Spanish population. We identify a gradient of likely autochthonous Maghrebi ancestry that increases from east to west across northern Africa; this ancestry is likely derived from “back-to-Africa” gene flow more than 12,000 years ago (ya), prior to the Holocene. The indigenous North African ancestry is more frequent in populations with historical Berber ethnicity.

In most North African populations we also see substantial shared ancestry with the Near East, and to a lesser extent sub-Saharan Africa and Europe.

To estimate the time of migration from sub-Saharan populations into North Africa, we implement a maximum likelihood dating method based on the distribution of migrant tracts. In order to first identify migrant tracts, we assign local ancestry to haplotypes using a novel, principal component-based analysis of three ancestral populations.

We estimate that a migration of western African origin into Morocco began about 40 generations ago (approximately 1,200 ya); a migration of individuals with Nilotic ancestry into Egypt occurred about 25 generations ago (approximately 750 ya)."

•••

Any misgivings, about the bias of universally accepted Western science, is merely just more dried mud-stones being cast from the wafer-thin glass houses of Afro-Foolish mumbo-jumbo spewing pseudo-science YouTube witchdoctors.
motts

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#20919 Apr 29, 2013
BLACK MOORISH ROYALTY

Moulay al-Rashid (1631-1672)(Arabic:م ول&#15 75;ي ال&#15 85;شي& #1583;) was Sultan of Morocco from 1666 to 1672.
Mawlaay or Moulay al-Rashid is called the founder of the Alaouite Dynasty.
this is how Mulay al-Rashid was described at the time: "He is of middle size; his face is long and thin; his beard, forked and white, his color, almost black with a white mark near the nose" - Abbé Busnot, Histoire de Regne de Mouley Ismael, Roven, 1714

http://moorishpac.com/moulay-al-rashid-sultan...

http://www.aucklandartgallery.com/the-collect...
motts

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#20922 Apr 29, 2013
MOORS = BLACK AFRICANS

"Snowden (1970) and Desanges (1981) reference various writers’ physical descriptions of the ancient Maghreb’s inhabitants. In various writers’ physical descriptions of the ancient Maghreb’s inhabitants. In addition to the presence of fair-skinned blonds, various “Ethiopian” or “part-Ethiopian” groups are described, near the coast and on the southern slopes of the Atlas mountains.“Ethiopians,” meaning dark-skinned peoples usually having “ulotrichous”(wooly) hair, are noted in various Greek accounts and European coinage (Snowden, 1970). Hiernaux (1975) interprets the finding of “subsaharan” population affinities in living Maghrebans as being solely the result of the medieval transsaharan slave trade; it is clear that this is not the case. Furthermore, the blacks of the ancient Maghreb were apparently not foreign or a caste." (S.O.Y Keita, "Studies of Ancient Crania From Northern Africa," American Journal of Physical Anthropology, 83:35-48 (1990).

 Joseph Vogel stressed: "Populations and cultures now found south of the desert roamed far to the north." (Encyclopedia of Precolonial Africa by Joseph O. Vogel, AltaMira Press, Walnut Creek, California, 1997, pp. 465-472).

"Except for the Zandj (black slaves) from lower Iraq, no large body of blacks historically linked to the trans-Saharan slave trade existed anywhere in the Arab world ... The high costs of slaves, because of the risks inherent in the desert crossing, which would have not permitted such a massive exodus ... Until the Crusades the Muslim world drew its slaves from two main sources: Eastern and Central Europe (Slavs) and Turkestan. The Sudan only came third." - Africa from the Seventh to Eleventh Century, UNESCO, 1988.
motts

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#20924 Apr 29, 2013
BLACK MOORS IN EUROPEAN ROYALTY

Queen Charlotte, wife of the English King George III (1738-1820), was directly descended from Margarita de Castro y Sousa, a black MOORISH branch of the Portuguese Royal House.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/roots/2004/02/black...
Scroll down and see here in England they can admit that Black Moors were part of royalty.

“The suggestion that Queen Charlotte was black implies that her granddaughter (Queen Victoria) and her great-great-great-great-grandd aughter (Queen Elizabeth II) had African forebears. Perhaps, instead of just being a boring bunch of semi-inbred white stiffs, our royal family becomes much more interesting.”(The Guardian, March 12, 2009)
The Guardian newspaper and the BBC are definitely not afrocentric.

Now here's the question I pose to the EURONUTS. If Black Moors were the worthless slaves they claim they were, why are they married to European royalty?

Take a look at the first Duke of Florence..
Alessandro de' Medici (1511-37) of Black Moorish descent or should we say 'Moorish descent' as the 'Moors' were BLACK.
The Medici, an Italian family of merchants, bankers, rulers, patrons and collectors, dominated the political and cultural life of Florence from the 15th century to the mid 18th century.
So even after the Moors were defeated they were still held in high regard all over Europe in many royal families.

http://www.google.co.uk/search...
motts

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#20925 Apr 29, 2013
You must drop in next time you are in Philadelphia. Lovely piece of work.

http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/perman...

This is one of my favourites. I wish I could pull some of those 'Morris moves.' The Black Moors taught the Spanish very well.

http://www.muenchner-stadtmuseum.de/en/muench...
motts

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#20926 Apr 29, 2013
THE MOORS
Moor figure in sanssouci potsdam, Germany
http://wikimapia.org/17270480/Moorish-Rondell...

Moor figure in scauffhausen, Switzerland (copy and paste, all one link)
http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/infra_anlagen...

Statue of Saint Benedict the Moor in the Franciscan church in Santiago de Compostela, Spain
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3560/338451882...

Another image of a Black Moor can be seen on the Coat of Arms of His Holiness Benedict XVI.:

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xv...

The following link show a statue of BLACK AFRICAN MOORS in Venice Italy

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-83388826/stoc...

Moor sculpture in Memmingen, Germany
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memmin...

The Coburg Moor
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zsenya/499998250...

St. Mauritius the Moor
http://www.taneter.org/moors.html

A MOOR on the COAT OF ARMS of CORSICA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arm...

4 MOORS on the COAT OF ARMS of SARDINIA
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coats_of_ar...
Image of Gannibal the Moor of St Petersburg

http://bulletsandhoney.wordpress.com/2005/08/...
motts

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#20927 Apr 29, 2013
THE MOORS
Some lovely Black Moors statues. OOOOOOOH! Aren't they BEAUTIFUL!!
(Copy and paste-all one link)
http://www.google.com/search...

Paintings and depictions of black moors-(Copy and paste-all one link)
http://www.google.com/search...

The following link charts part of the Moors History in Jamaica during Slavery.:

http://www.caribbeanmuslims.com/attachments/1...

Moors in Europe 2: Germany and the Holy Roman Empire



Moors in Europe 3: Who was that Head-Banded Man?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

The Heralded Moors
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Blacks Moors Ruled at one time in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

The BLACK Moorish Artifacts Speak for themselves (LISTEN CAREFULLY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

THE SPANISH KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE WHAT THE MOORS LOOKED LIKE

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Moors in Europe - Black Gold
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

100's of BLACK negro Moors Images in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Black royalties in ancient europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Powerful Images of Black Moors in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch... .
Jake

New York, NY

#20928 Apr 29, 2013
motts wrote:
BLACK MOORS IN EUROPEAN ROYALTY
Queen Charlotte, wife of the English King George III (1738-1820), was directly descended from Margarita de Castro y Sousa, a black MOORISH branch of the Portuguese Royal House.
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/roots/2004/02/black...
Scroll down and see here in England they can admit that Black Moors were part of royalty.
“The suggestion that Queen Charlotte was black implies that her granddaughter (Queen Victoria) and her great-great-great-great-
granddaughter (Queen Elizabeth II) had African forebears. Perhaps, instead of just being a boring bunch of semi-inbred white stiffs, our royal family becomes much more interesting.”(The Guardian, March 12, 2009)
The Guardian newspaper and the BBC are definitely not afrocentric.
Now here's the question I pose to the EURONUTS. If Black Moors were the worthless slaves they claim they were, why are they married to European royalty?
Take a look at the first Duke of Florence..
Alessandro de' Medici (1511-37) of Black Moorish descent or should we say 'Moorish descent' as the 'Moors' were BLACK.
The Medici, an Italian family of merchants, bankers, rulers, patrons and
collectors, dominated the political and cultural life of Florence from the 15th century to the mid 18th century.
So even after the Moors were defeated they were still held in high regard all over Europe in many royal families.
http://www.google.co.uk/search...
Says the worthless knee grow slave descendant while living in a White people's country cause your knee grow homelands in undeveloped Aperica are as sh8tlands as they were when our white ancestors found your black ancestors swinging from jungle trees. 

Our European Royals did not intermix with you inferior Blacks, g roid, even 
though you want to claim our Superior White European Royalty had no use for you blacks other then to sell your black ancestors as slaves, they did not produce heirs to our European royal houses with you g roids cause they viewed you as inferior Sub Humans who looked closer to primates then humans. 

Our Royal European families were enslaving your g roid ancestors cause they viewed you as subhuman, they were not intermixing their royal European HUMAN blood lines with you subhumans less evolved types. They got rich off of selling your black ancestors as slave because you slave animals. The Medici Family were not knee grows, they were white and humans. 
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cosimo_di ...(Bronzino).jpg

Queen Charlotte, wife of the English King George III (1738-1820), was NOT the directly descendedair any black moorish branch of the Portuguese Royal House, cause NO European family intermixed with you blacks. This lie is promoted by g roids like you who live in OUR WHITE Nations because you are too ashamed to claim your black Aperican ancestors since you have accomplished nothing to offer developed societies so you claim OUR European SUPERIOR ancestors instead of your inferior Neolithic black ancestors. Queen Charlotte was WHITE, she had NO black bloodlines, she had pure human GERMANIC bloodlines, as did all our royals, her features were human fair lovely skin, fair hair and beautiful blue eyes, she did not look like any Sheboonie, she was a human a white Queen who was selling your black ancestors as slaves cause she viewed you all as subhumans.

Now tell us how many of you blacks drowned at sea like rats trying to reach our White Modern Deceloped Nations today, g roid living in White people country instead of your undeveloped 3rd world Blacksh8tlands. lol
Jake

New York, NY

#20929 Apr 29, 2013
motts wrote:
BLACK MOORISH ROYALTY
Moulay al-Rashid (1631-1672)(Arabic:م ول&#15 75;ي ال&#15 85;شي& #1583;) was Sultan of Morocco from 1666 to 1672.
Mawlaay or Moulay al-Rashid is called the founder of the Alaouite Dynasty.
this is how Mulay al-Rashid was described at the time: "He is of middle size; his face is long and thin; his beard, forked and white, his color, almost black with a white mark near the nose" - Abbé Busnot, Histoire de Regne de Mouley Ismael, Roven, 1714
http://moorishpac.com/moulay-al-rashid-sultan...
http://www.aucklandartgallery.com/the-collect...
Hahahaha!!! Look at that TOWELHEAD Ape!! OMG! Too funny!! Hahaha aha!! Look at that g roid in that pic wearing dresses and looking like they are ancient primitives desert rats living in the Aperican desert in sandhuts!! lol! No wonder your knee grows drown like rats trying to reach our White Modern Developed Nations! lol That pic proves what I have been always saying, the modern ages has passed you g roids right by. lol 

Hey freeloading g roid, why don't you go live with those dress wearing primitive g roids in your undeveloped 3rd world sh8thomelands in Aperica 
with their low primitive standards of living among the jungles and desert sands instead of living in Our White modern developed countries where the white men can provide you gorilllaz with white men's higher living modern standards. lol! Don't tell us, we already know, because White people and our White Developed Nations have always been Superior to your Inferior Black Undeveloped Homelands, ape. lol!

Hahahaha!!! g roid continue to live like undeveloped primitives in your black homelands walking around in rags and carrying sticks like Neolithics. lol
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/04/15/art...

Now tell us how many of you g roids drowned today trying to reach our White Modern Developed Nations. hahaha! The sea full of dead g roids! Priceless! lol

"Black Africans died at Mediterranean Sea during voyage to Europe
Africans were riding a boat and died of dehydration during their 15-day trip.
Within a few days the inflatable boat was punctured and air started to leak out. There was no water onboard and people started to die from dehydration within days, he added. Over half of the deceased were said to have come from Eritrea."
Jake

New York, NY

#20930 Apr 29, 2013
motts wrote:
You must drop in next time you are in Philadelphia. Lovely piece of work.
http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/perman...
This is one of my favourites. I wish I could pull some of those 'Morris moves.' The Black Moors taught the Spanish very well.
http://www.muenchner-stadtmuseum.de/en/muench...
Says the g roid while living in a WHITE modern developed country instead of your undeveloped sh8tlands in Aperica. That is no "expert", that is an inferior freeloading knee grow like you living in a White peoples Modern Developed Country instead of your 3rd World Undeveloped Sh8tlands in Aperica. Meanwhile your g roid "bros" continue to live like undeveloped primitives in your black homelands walking around in rags and carrying sticks like Neolithics. lol
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/04/15/art...

Now tell us how many of you g roids drowned today trying to reach our White Modern Developed Nations. hahaha! The sea full of dead g roids! Priceless! lol

"Black Africans died at Mediterranean Sea during voyage to Europe
Africans were riding a boat and died of dehydration during their 15-day trip.
Within a few days the inflatable boat was punctured and air started to leak out. There was no water onboard and people started to die from dehydration within days, he added. Over half of the deceased were said to have come from Eritrea."

“DANGER!!”

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Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#20931 Apr 29, 2013
moot wrote:
Let's pretend a BLACK MOORISH ROYALTY
Moulay al-Rashid (1631-1672) was Sultan of Morocco from 1666 to 1672.
Mawlaay or Moulay al-Rashid is called the founder of the Alaouite Dynasty.
this is how Mulay al-Rashid was described at the time: "He is of middle size; his face is long and thin; his beard, forked and white, his color, almost black with a white mark near the nose" - Abbé Busnot, Histoire de Regne de Mouley Ismael, Roven, 1714
http://moorishpac.com/moulay-al-rashid-sultan...
http://www.aucklandartgallery.com/the-collect...
BÚLLSHÍT!!

...as always.

The false portrait, that you and all other Afro-Tools have pretended was the face of "Moulay al-Rashid", was nothing more than a completely unauthorized and absurdly incorrect pseudo-image of the actual Sultan.

Those images were the ignorant scrawlings of an unscrupulous English periodical, and nothing more.

Notice how you conniving and asinine, lower than cøçkroaches/denizens of absurdia,

have so painstakingly striven to avoid presenting any of the OFFICIAL portraits of both that Sultan and his brother.

http://www.dar-sirr.com/Sultan_Moulay_Ismail....

scroll down to see them both, FÓÓL.

“DANGER!!”

Level 8

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#20932 Apr 29, 2013
moot wrote:
MOORS = BLACK AFRICANS
"Snowden (1970) and Desanges (1981) reference various writers’ physical descriptions...blah blah.
All of the BÚLLSHÍT that you've just cranked out is nothing more than unsubstantiated rhetoric.

::IT MEANS NOTHING::

and

::IT PROVES NOTHING::

•••

What I have that will easily counter your foolish jibberish,

is the cold hard unbiased rationale of the latest up to date scientific DNA analysis:

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...

"We present dense, genome-wide SNP genotyping array data (730,000 sites) from seven North African populations, spanning from Egypt to Morocco, and one Spanish population. We identify a gradient of likely autochthonous Maghrebi ancestry that increases from east to west across northern Africa; this ancestry is likely derived from “back-to-Africa” gene flow more than 12,000 years ago (ya), prior to the Holocene. The indigenous North African ancestry is more frequent in populations with historical Berber ethnicity.

In most North African populations we also see substantial shared ancestry with the Near East, and to a lesser extent sub-Saharan Africa and Europe.

To estimate the time of migration from sub-Saharan populations into North Africa, we implement a maximum likelihood dating method based on the distribution of migrant tracts. In order to first identify migrant tracts, we assign local ancestry to haplotypes using a novel, principal component-based analysis of three ancestral populations.

We estimate that a migration of western African origin into Morocco began about 40 generations ago (approximately 1,200 ya); a migration of individuals with Nilotic ancestry into Egypt occurred about 25 generations ago (approximately 750 ya)."

•••

Any misgivings, about the bias of universally accepted Western science, is merely just more dried mud-stones being cast from the wafer-thin glass houses of Afro-Foolish mumbo-jumbo spewing pseudo-science YouTube witchdoctors.

“DANGER!!”

Level 8

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#20933 Apr 30, 2013
motts wrote:
You must drop in next time you are in Philadelphia. Lovely piece of work.
http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/perman...
This is one of my favourites. I wish I could pull some of those 'Morris moves.' The Black Moors taught the Spanish very well.
http://www.muenchner-stadtmuseum.de/en/muench...
BÚLLSHÍT!!!

The following is what REAL Moroccan Berbers have to say about the Harratin Negros...

BLACK MOROCCAN SOLDIERS WERE CONSCRIPTED SLAVES:

http://www.dar-sirr.com/Sultan_Moulay_Ismail....

"When Mawlay al-Rashid's half-brother Mawlay Ismail b. al-Sharif al-Hassani (1672-1727) assumed power, he soon resolved the Makhzan’s depen­dence on unreliable tribal forces by substituting for them a professional black army ('Abid); the 'Abid were made to swear allegiance to their Sultan using al-Bukhari's book, hence their name 'Abid al-Bukhari. This method of recruitment was by no means revo­lutionary, since it had already been adopted by Ahmad al-Mansur al-Sa’adi.But a dynasty's complete reliance on African troops to govern was certainly new. None­theless, the creation of the black slave army, was cer­tainly a 'coup de génie' in the Makhzan's efforts to assuage refractory tribes. With his new army, which by some exaggerated accounts reached 150,000 men, Mawlay Isma'il was able to reduce drastically the subversive influence of the Brotherhoods.

In spite of this he ran into serious opposition from the 'Ulama, particularly Fasis 'Ulama', concerning the legality of forced 'military slavery.' The point of dispute was the compulsory incorporation into the 'Abid army of Moroccan subjects who happened to be of negroïd ancestry (Harratin).

The 'Ulama' argued that any subject whose slave status could not be lawfully demonstrated could not be impressed into the Diwan of 'Abid.

Mawlay Isma'il never fully reconciled the 'Ulama' to his views. As Commander of the Faithful (Amir al-Muminin), legitimized by his 'natural' as well as 'earned' Baraka, Mawlay Ismail exhibited an uncompromising devotion. He made it a point to remind his subjects of his moral superiority by an ostentatious display of religiosity at his court in Meknes ("the exemplary center"), reminiscent of the later 'Abbasid period. It was designed to project a daunting image of a cosmic order personified in the Sultan."

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#20935 May 2, 2013
Its copy and paste time wrote:
<quoted text>You are correct - Ibn Khaldun THE ANDALUSIAN - knew exactly what he was talking about “Ham, having become black because of a curse pronounced against him by his father, fled to the Maghrib to hide in shame.... Berber, son of Kesloudjim [Casluhim], one of his descendants, left numerous posterity in the Maghrib”(Smith, 2003, Smith, R.(2003).“What happened to the ancient Libyans? Chasing sources
across the Sahara from Herodotus to Ibn Khaldun,” Journal of World History 14:4, p. 482).
This comment that you said is totaly incorrect Ibn Khaldun THE ANDALUSIAN - knew exactly what he was talking about “Ham, having become black because of a curse pronounced against him by his father, fled to the Maghrib to hide in shame.... Berber,

Wrong! first this dummy called Ibn Khaldun the Turk should have read the BIBLE Ham was NOT CURSED dummy it was his son Canaan here is the scripture your boy should have read and you as well Its copy and paste time you are a uneducated clown for that comment.



Gen 9-25
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren

Did you read or can you read canaan was cursed NOT HAM and that curse has nothing to do with COLOR or his skin color was cursed

for your info all people on Earth were different shades of BROWN and BLACK skin NO ONE ON EARTH AT THIS TIME WERE WHITE!

“DANGER!!”

Level 8

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#20936 May 2, 2013
TRUTH HITMAN IS BACK wrote:
<quoted text>This comment that you said is totaly incorrect Ibn Khaldun THE ANDALUSIAN - knew exactly what he was talking about “Ham, having become black because of a curse pronounced against him by his father, fled to the Maghrib to hide in shame.... Berber,
Wrong! first this dummy called Ibn Khaldun the Turk should have read the BIBLE Ham was NOT CURSED dummy it was his son Canaan here is the scripture your boy should have read and you as well Its copy and paste time you are a uneducated clown for that comment.
Gen 9-25
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren
Did you read or can you read canaan was cursed NOT HAM and that curse has nothing to do with COLOR or his skin color was cursed
for your info all people on Earth were different shades of BROWN and BLACK skin NO ONE ON EARTH AT THIS TIME WERE WHITE!
Well, I almost kinda sorta do agree with you on that bit about skin tones, except, of course, that skin tones did lighten up significantly, right about the same time that the last significant gen migration from the Middle East(12,000yrs ago) had made it into all of North Africa, according to the most up to date anthropological analyses.

I can't say that I could logically give that "Noah's story" any more credence than I would any other children's fairy tale.

That fable about Noah's ark doesn't even bother to take into account all other peoples of the World,

because the witch doctor who authored that fable didn't know anything about Chinese, or Norsemen, or Siberians, or Amerindians, nor did it ever make mention of our brother the Neanderthal man, who was already fair skinned many MANY 10's of 1,000,s of years before even the first O.O.A. Exodus.

The Neanderthal man was present as a genetic component of those Eurasians who were the progenitors of the Eurasian Peoples that were the majority population of North Africa before 12,000yrs ago.

Thad Cushman

Phoenix, AZ

#20940 Jun 26, 2013
Curious Me wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I almost kinda sorta do agree with you on that bit about skin tones, except, of course, that skin tones did lighten up significantly, right about the same time that the last significant gen migration from the Middle East(12,000yrs ago) had made it into all of North Africa, according to the most up to date anthropological analyses.
I can't say that I could logically give that "Noah's story" any more credence than I would any other children's fairy tale.
That fable about Noah's ark doesn't even bother to take into account all other peoples of the World,
because the witch doctor who authored that fable didn't know anything about Chinese, or Norsemen, or Siberians, or Amerindians, nor did it ever make mention of our brother the Neanderthal man, who was already fair skinned many MANY 10's of 1,000,s of years before even the first O.O.A. Exodus.
The Neanderthal man was present as a genetic component of those Eurasians who were the progenitors of the Eurasian Peoples that were the majority population of North Africa before 12,000yrs ago.
Noah was before the twelve sons, twelve tribes, twelve nations were born. imagine them as a litter of twekve pit bull puppies. All favoring but none looking exactly the same.

As for the american indians. They are of african and asian descent come across on the beiring straight some had some had been mixed with south american blood.
Thad Cushman

La Habra, CA

#20941 Jun 26, 2013
Look up black moors in america?

You guys downplay religion. During the crusaudes one of the Popes main objectives was to loot king solomans temple. Looking for the knowledge of ancient egypt. Which was held by the moors. Also as to your black art theory. Up until the arabs invaded and caputure the land ofn turkey, all the pictures of the in the vatican of the holy mother and messiah where that of black muslim figures. The pope had them burned and replaced because europeans had problems with killing a group of people who looked like the messiah.
He replaced the picture with the all so famous one of his son Ceasaire Borgia
HughCipher

San Francisco, CA

#20942 Jul 25, 2013
Not all Moors were Black but many were. The term it self means dark. You have far too many Black Africans represented in European Heraldry(city and family crest) for there not to have been Black African Moors. The Europeans of the time period documented what the Moors looked like quite well. Again you have hundreds of these city and family crest http://www.idtg.org/archive/255-controversial... Its only their decedents that seem not to be able to stomach this. To deny that there were Black Moors once you know this history is just silly.

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David Banner's Message to America on Sway in th... 6 min A African God 2
Don't give SUX000451any response... 6 min Wadi 3
Barack Obama, our next President (Nov '08) 7 min Yeah 1,154,388
Hot white women enslaving black men 10 min Janis K 169
There is a Civil War going on-there's black peo... 10 min Big Knob 4
Hebrew Israelite (Feb '11) 12 min Carly HI YAH 98,201
Why do african americans hate africans??? (Jul '11) 12 min Rashid 234
2 NYPD MURDERED on behalf of Eric GARNER 18 min KIP 426
the moors were black africans not arabs!!! (Jun '08) 27 min African AE 28,712
Merry Christmas White People 2 hr black does crack 70
So you slave spawn want a race war, hmm? 4 hr sassyntrashy 85
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