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#20909 Apr 26, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
Here let me repost these writings from actual Moors in case you missed it<sarcasm>
Ibn Khaldun(A MOOR)(d. 1406CE) added that blacks are “only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings.”
Ibn Hazm(A MOOR)(eleventh century) Wrote. "Negroes in Africa neither have books, nor sciences or histories"
"Therefore, the Negro nation are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated."
Ibn Khaldun(A MOOR),_Muqaddimah_, 14th century AD
beyond [known peoples of black West Africa] to the south there is no civilization in the proper sense. There are only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings. They live in thickets and caves, and eat herbs and unprepared grain. They frequently eat each other. They cannot be considered human beings."
Ibn Khaldun (A MOOR),_Muqaddimah, 14th century AD
Berbers=Moors and there is NO DOUBT ABOUT IT
The Berbers belong to a powerful, formidable, and numerous people; a true people like so many others, the world has seen - like the Arabs, the Persians, the Greeks and the Romans.-- Ibn Khaldun(A MOOR), 14th century scholar
The only people who accept slavery are the Negroes, owing to their low degree of humanity and proximity to the animal stage. Other persons who accept the status of slave do so as a means of attaining high rank, or power, or wealth, as is the case with the Mameluke Turks in the East and with those Franks and Galician's who enter the service of the state [in Spain]-Ibn Khaldun(A MOOR), 14th century scholar
The writer al-'Umari counted even the southernmost Berber tribes as white:
"In the north of the country of Mali, there are Berber tribes who are white and are under [the Sultan of Mali's] dominion .... They are: the Yatansir, the Shagharasan, the Maddusa and the Lamtuna."9
and,
"The country of the Blacks also contains three independent kings, white Muslims, belonging to the Berber race: the sultan of Aïr, the sultan of Damushuh and the sultan of Tadmakka. These three white Muslim kings are in the southwest area ranging between the Barr al 'Adwa, empire of the sultan Abu l-Hasan, and the country of Mali and its dependencies
Next!
HEY dummy your boy Ibn Khaldun is a TURK historian

Moors were always negroes here is the proof

Historical Account of Discoveries and Travels in Africa: From the Earliest ..."By HUGH MURRAY, F.R.S.E

THE MOORS p 489 HUGH MURRAY, F.R.S.E.

Among all the aboriginal inhabitants of Africa, the Moors hold the most prominent place. The import of this name, however, though so widely diffused throughout Africa, is exceedingly vague. It is an European term, not recognized by them- selves. During the middle ages, the profes- sors of the Mahometan faith were divided into Turks and Moors ; all who were not Turks were called Moors. At present the name of Moors seems chiefly confined to the inhabitants of the cities of Barbary. These, too, are not a single race, but aggregated from various sources. The ancient Mauritanian and Numidian population, HUGH MURRAY,
F.R.S.E.

At present the name of Moors
seems chiefly confined to the inhabitants of the
cities of Barbary.These, too, are not a single race, but aggregated from various sources.The ancient Mauritanian and Numidian population.In general, the Moors, when compared with the Turks, appear an inferior race

Stuff that in your face Edomite this is what the people of Barbary look like

this is a berber woman
http://blackhistoryfactorfiction.com/wp-conte...

More berber Moors for you
http://archive.worldhistoria.com/uploads/3051...

Sorry i have dis proven your lie your boy Ibn Khaldun(A TURK) Not a Moor
Joe

New York, NY

#20911 Apr 26, 2013
yes

“DANGER!!”

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#20912 Apr 26, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
<quoted text>So you are saying blacks gave you that gene. Saratinis,Minoans,Crete,Mycene ans all have artwork depictine dark curly,straight to afro hair like HOA today. Also they painted white darked haired people to. Even when you get up to the Etruscans. Bible itself said HAMs descendants made it that far as well as Japheth thats what you confuse with white present but thats the bible and you might be atheist.
No, dumby, the use of contrasting 'BLACK' and 'WHITE' skin depiction in Hellenistic art work was strictly METAPHORICAL.

The only problem, here, is that none of you have the requisite intellect to be able to comprehend just what the hell is meant by METAPHORICAL.

ÍDIOTS!!!
Its copy and paste time

Cherry Hill, NJ

#20914 Apr 28, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
<quoted text>
Afrocentrics wrong as usual
Ibn Khaldun's life is relatively well-documented, as he wrote an autobiography (&#1575;&#1604;&#1 578;&#1593;&#1585; &#1610;&#1601; &#1576;&#1575;&#15 76;&#1606; &#1582;&#1604;&#15 83;&#1608;&#1606; &#1608;&#1585;&#15 81;&#1604;&#1578;& #1607; &#1594;&#1585;&#15 76;&#1575; &#1608;&#1588;&#15 85;&#1602;&#1575;; Al-Ta&#699;r&#299;f bi Ibn-Khald&#363;n wa Ri&#295;latuhu G&#295;arban wa Sharqan[5]) in which numerous documents regarding his life are quoted word-for-word. However, the autobiography has little to say about his private life, so little is known about his family background. Generally known as "Ibn Khald&#363;n" after a remote ancestor, he was born in Tunis in AD 1332 (732 A.H.) into an upper-class Andalusian family, the Ban&#363; Khald&#363;n. His family, which held many high offices in Andalusia, had emigrated to Tunisia after the fall of Seville to Reconquista forces around the middle of the 13th century. Under the Tunisian Hafsid dynasty some of his family held political office; Ibn Khald&#363;n's father and grandfather however withdrew from political life and joined a mystical order. His brother, Yahya Ibn Khaldun, was also a historian who wrote a book on the Abdalwadid dynasty, and who was assassinated by a rival for being the official historiographer of the court.
P.S.
He was in Spain(Al-Andalus)During the Moorish Rule :)
I think he would know who the Moors were even if he was from Mars :) Don't you think?
Afrocentrics=Tools of Ignorance
Next!
You are correct - Ibn Khaldun THE ANDALUSIAN - knew exactly what he was talking about “Ham, having become black because of a curse pronounced against him by his father, fled to the Maghrib to hide in shame.... Berber, son of Kesloudjim [Casluhim], one of his descendants, left numerous posterity in the Maghrib”(Smith, 2003, Smith, R.(2003).“What happened to the ancient Libyans? Chasing sources
across the Sahara from Herodotus to Ibn Khaldun,” Journal of World History 14:4, p. 482).
Its copy and paste time

Cherry Hill, NJ

#20915 Apr 28, 2013
Let us not forget where many of the inhabitants of northern Maghreb came to North Africa, and where they came from -“Neighboring mountain peoples, the Berbers and Tuaregs, appear to have occasionally attacked outlying farms and were happy to enslave anyone they found there, Moors, renegades, or slaves…things could turn much worse with these nomads, who often took them far into the interior ‘feeding them as little as possible…’ leaving them no hope of eventual escape and contact with fellow Europeans.” Christian slaves , Muslim Masters p. 87 , 2003.

Otherwise they would of course appear to have the complexion of the Masmuda and Zanata who were the dominant Berber people of Tangiers and coastal Morocco up until the 16th century, and of course described as black skinned by your Syrian, Andalusian and Iranian brethren who also settled north Africa by the 100s of thousands.(Abu Shama 13th, Ibn Butlan and Nasir Khusrau.
Its copy and paste time

Cherry Hill, NJ

#20916 Apr 28, 2013
Ibn Manzur wrote essentially similar to Dhahabi in his Lisaan al-Arab:
"The Arabs don’t say a man is white [or:“white man,” rajul abyad&#8729;] due to a white complexion. Rather, whiteness [al-abyad] with them means an external appearance that is free from blemish; when they mean a white complexion they say ‘red’(ahmar)… And the Arabs attribute white skin to the slaves."

Ibn Khaldun THE ANDALUSIAN considered Arabia part of the Sudan.

“DANGER!!”

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#20918 Apr 29, 2013
Its copy and paste time wrote:
Ibn Manzur wrote essentially similar to Dhahabi in his Lisaan al-Arab:
"The Arabs don’t say a man is white [or:“white man,” rajul abyad&#8729;] due to a white complexion. Rather, whiteness [al-abyad] with them means an external appearance that is free from blemish; when they mean a white complexion they say ‘red’(ahmar)… And the Arabs attribute white skin to the slaves."
Ibn Khaldun THE ANDALUSIAN considered Arabia part of the Sudan.
All of the BÚLLSHÍT that you've just cranked out is nothing more than unsubstantiated rhetoric.

::IT MEANS NOTHING::

and

::IT PROVES NOTHING::

•••

What I have that will easily counter your foolish jibberish,

is the cold hard unbiased rationale of the latest up to date scientific DNA analysis:

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...

"We present dense, genome-wide SNP genotyping array data (730,000 sites) from seven North African populations, spanning from Egypt to Morocco, and one Spanish population. We identify a gradient of likely autochthonous Maghrebi ancestry that increases from east to west across northern Africa; this ancestry is likely derived from “back-to-Africa” gene flow more than 12,000 years ago (ya), prior to the Holocene. The indigenous North African ancestry is more frequent in populations with historical Berber ethnicity.

In most North African populations we also see substantial shared ancestry with the Near East, and to a lesser extent sub-Saharan Africa and Europe.

To estimate the time of migration from sub-Saharan populations into North Africa, we implement a maximum likelihood dating method based on the distribution of migrant tracts. In order to first identify migrant tracts, we assign local ancestry to haplotypes using a novel, principal component-based analysis of three ancestral populations.

We estimate that a migration of western African origin into Morocco began about 40 generations ago (approximately 1,200 ya); a migration of individuals with Nilotic ancestry into Egypt occurred about 25 generations ago (approximately 750 ya)."

•••

Any misgivings, about the bias of universally accepted Western science, is merely just more dried mud-stones being cast from the wafer-thin glass houses of Afro-Foolish mumbo-jumbo spewing pseudo-science YouTube witchdoctors.
motts

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#20919 Apr 29, 2013
BLACK MOORISH ROYALTY

Moulay al-Rashid (1631-1672)(Arabic:&#1605; &#1608;&#1604;&#15 75;&#1610; &#1575;&#1604;&#15 85;&#1588;&#1610;& #1583;) was Sultan of Morocco from 1666 to 1672.
Mawlaay or Moulay al-Rashid is called the founder of the Alaouite Dynasty.
this is how Mulay al-Rashid was described at the time: "He is of middle size; his face is long and thin; his beard, forked and white, his color, almost black with a white mark near the nose" - Abbé Busnot, Histoire de Regne de Mouley Ismael, Roven, 1714

http://moorishpac.com/moulay-al-rashid-sultan...

http://www.aucklandartgallery.com/the-collect...
motts

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#20922 Apr 29, 2013
MOORS = BLACK AFRICANS

"Snowden (1970) and Desanges (1981) reference various writers’ physical descriptions of the ancient Maghreb’s inhabitants. In various writers’ physical descriptions of the ancient Maghreb’s inhabitants. In addition to the presence of fair-skinned blonds, various “Ethiopian” or “part-Ethiopian” groups are described, near the coast and on the southern slopes of the Atlas mountains.“Ethiopians,” meaning dark-skinned peoples usually having “ulotrichous”(wooly) hair, are noted in various Greek accounts and European coinage (Snowden, 1970). Hiernaux (1975) interprets the finding of “subsaharan” population affinities in living Maghrebans as being solely the result of the medieval transsaharan slave trade; it is clear that this is not the case. Furthermore, the blacks of the ancient Maghreb were apparently not foreign or a caste." (S.O.Y Keita, "Studies of Ancient Crania From Northern Africa," American Journal of Physical Anthropology, 83:35-48 (1990).

 Joseph Vogel stressed: "Populations and cultures now found south of the desert roamed far to the north." (Encyclopedia of Precolonial Africa by Joseph O. Vogel, AltaMira Press, Walnut Creek, California, 1997, pp. 465-472).

"Except for the Zandj (black slaves) from lower Iraq, no large body of blacks historically linked to the trans-Saharan slave trade existed anywhere in the Arab world ... The high costs of slaves, because of the risks inherent in the desert crossing, which would have not permitted such a massive exodus ... Until the Crusades the Muslim world drew its slaves from two main sources: Eastern and Central Europe (Slavs) and Turkestan. The Sudan only came third." - Africa from the Seventh to Eleventh Century, UNESCO, 1988.
motts

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#20924 Apr 29, 2013
BLACK MOORS IN EUROPEAN ROYALTY

Queen Charlotte, wife of the English King George III (1738-1820), was directly descended from Margarita de Castro y Sousa, a black MOORISH branch of the Portuguese Royal House.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/roots/2004/02/black...
Scroll down and see here in England they can admit that Black Moors were part of royalty.

“The suggestion that Queen Charlotte was black implies that her granddaughter (Queen Victoria) and her great-great-great-great-grandd aughter (Queen Elizabeth II) had African forebears. Perhaps, instead of just being a boring bunch of semi-inbred white stiffs, our royal family becomes much more interesting.”(The Guardian, March 12, 2009)
The Guardian newspaper and the BBC are definitely not afrocentric.

Now here's the question I pose to the EURONUTS. If Black Moors were the worthless slaves they claim they were, why are they married to European royalty?

Take a look at the first Duke of Florence..
Alessandro de' Medici (1511-37) of Black Moorish descent or should we say 'Moorish descent' as the 'Moors' were BLACK.
The Medici, an Italian family of merchants, bankers, rulers, patrons and collectors, dominated the political and cultural life of Florence from the 15th century to the mid 18th century.
So even after the Moors were defeated they were still held in high regard all over Europe in many royal families.

http://www.google.co.uk/search...
motts

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#20925 Apr 29, 2013
You must drop in next time you are in Philadelphia. Lovely piece of work.

http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/perman...

This is one of my favourites. I wish I could pull some of those 'Morris moves.' The Black Moors taught the Spanish very well.

http://www.muenchner-stadtmuseum.de/en/muench...
motts

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#20926 Apr 29, 2013
THE MOORS
Moor figure in sanssouci potsdam, Germany
http://wikimapia.org/17270480/Moorish-Rondell...

Moor figure in scauffhausen, Switzerland (copy and paste, all one link)
http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/infra_anlagen...

Statue of Saint Benedict the Moor in the Franciscan church in Santiago de Compostela, Spain
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3560/338451882...

Another image of a Black Moor can be seen on the Coat of Arms of His Holiness Benedict XVI.:

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xv...

The following link show a statue of BLACK AFRICAN MOORS in Venice Italy

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-83388826/stoc...

Moor sculpture in Memmingen, Germany
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memmin...

The Coburg Moor
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zsenya/499998250...

St. Mauritius the Moor
http://www.taneter.org/moors.html

A MOOR on the COAT OF ARMS of CORSICA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arm...

4 MOORS on the COAT OF ARMS of SARDINIA
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coats_of_ar...
Image of Gannibal the Moor of St Petersburg

http://bulletsandhoney.wordpress.com/2005/08/...
motts

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#20927 Apr 29, 2013
THE MOORS
Some lovely Black Moors statues. OOOOOOOH! Aren't they BEAUTIFUL!!
(Copy and paste-all one link)
http://www.google.com/search...

Paintings and depictions of black moors-(Copy and paste-all one link)
http://www.google.com/search...

The following link charts part of the Moors History in Jamaica during Slavery.:

http://www.caribbeanmuslims.com/attachments/1...

Moors in Europe 2: Germany and the Holy Roman Empire



Moors in Europe 3: Who was that Head-Banded Man?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

The Heralded Moors
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Blacks Moors Ruled at one time in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

The BLACK Moorish Artifacts Speak for themselves (LISTEN CAREFULLY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

THE SPANISH KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE WHAT THE MOORS LOOKED LIKE

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Moors in Europe - Black Gold
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

100's of BLACK negro Moors Images in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Black royalties in ancient europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Powerful Images of Black Moors in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch... .
Jake

New York, NY

#20928 Apr 29, 2013
motts wrote:
BLACK MOORS IN EUROPEAN ROYALTY
Queen Charlotte, wife of the English King George III (1738-1820), was directly descended from Margarita de Castro y Sousa, a black MOORISH branch of the Portuguese Royal House.
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/roots/2004/02/black...
Scroll down and see here in England they can admit that Black Moors were part of royalty.
“The suggestion that Queen Charlotte was black implies that her granddaughter (Queen Victoria) and her great-great-great-great-
granddaughter (Queen Elizabeth II) had African forebears. Perhaps, instead of just being a boring bunch of semi-inbred white stiffs, our royal family becomes much more interesting.”(The Guardian, March 12, 2009)
The Guardian newspaper and the BBC are definitely not afrocentric.
Now here's the question I pose to the EURONUTS. If Black Moors were the worthless slaves they claim they were, why are they married to European royalty?
Take a look at the first Duke of Florence..
Alessandro de' Medici (1511-37) of Black Moorish descent or should we say 'Moorish descent' as the 'Moors' were BLACK.
The Medici, an Italian family of merchants, bankers, rulers, patrons and
collectors, dominated the political and cultural life of Florence from the 15th century to the mid 18th century.
So even after the Moors were defeated they were still held in high regard all over Europe in many royal families.
http://www.google.co.uk/search...
Says the worthless knee grow slave descendant while living in a White people's country cause your knee grow homelands in undeveloped Aperica are as sh8tlands as they were when our white ancestors found your black ancestors swinging from jungle trees. 

Our European Royals did not intermix with you inferior Blacks, g roid, even 
though you want to claim our Superior White European Royalty had no use for you blacks other then to sell your black ancestors as slaves, they did not produce heirs to our European royal houses with you g roids cause they viewed you as inferior Sub Humans who looked closer to primates then humans. 

Our Royal European families were enslaving your g roid ancestors cause they viewed you as subhuman, they were not intermixing their royal European HUMAN blood lines with you subhumans less evolved types. They got rich off of selling your black ancestors as slave because you slave animals. The Medici Family were not knee grows, they were white and humans. 
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cosimo_di ...(Bronzino).jpg

Queen Charlotte, wife of the English King George III (1738-1820), was NOT the directly descendedair any black moorish branch of the Portuguese Royal House, cause NO European family intermixed with you blacks. This lie is promoted by g roids like you who live in OUR WHITE Nations because you are too ashamed to claim your black Aperican ancestors since you have accomplished nothing to offer developed societies so you claim OUR European SUPERIOR ancestors instead of your inferior Neolithic black ancestors. Queen Charlotte was WHITE, she had NO black bloodlines, she had pure human GERMANIC bloodlines, as did all our royals, her features were human fair lovely skin, fair hair and beautiful blue eyes, she did not look like any Sheboonie, she was a human a white Queen who was selling your black ancestors as slaves cause she viewed you all as subhumans.

Now tell us how many of you blacks drowned at sea like rats trying to reach our White Modern Deceloped Nations today, g roid living in White people country instead of your undeveloped 3rd world Blacksh8tlands. lol
Jake

New York, NY

#20929 Apr 29, 2013
motts wrote:
BLACK MOORISH ROYALTY
Moulay al-Rashid (1631-1672)(Arabic:&#1605; &#1608;&#1604;&#15 75;&#1610; &#1575;&#1604;&#15 85;&#1588;&#1610;& #1583;) was Sultan of Morocco from 1666 to 1672.
Mawlaay or Moulay al-Rashid is called the founder of the Alaouite Dynasty.
this is how Mulay al-Rashid was described at the time: "He is of middle size; his face is long and thin; his beard, forked and white, his color, almost black with a white mark near the nose" - Abbé Busnot, Histoire de Regne de Mouley Ismael, Roven, 1714
http://moorishpac.com/moulay-al-rashid-sultan...
http://www.aucklandartgallery.com/the-collect...
Hahahaha!!! Look at that TOWELHEAD Ape!! OMG! Too funny!! Hahaha aha!! Look at that g roid in that pic wearing dresses and looking like they are ancient primitives desert rats living in the Aperican desert in sandhuts!! lol! No wonder your knee grows drown like rats trying to reach our White Modern Developed Nations! lol That pic proves what I have been always saying, the modern ages has passed you g roids right by. lol 

Hey freeloading g roid, why don't you go live with those dress wearing primitive g roids in your undeveloped 3rd world sh8thomelands in Aperica 
with their low primitive standards of living among the jungles and desert sands instead of living in Our White modern developed countries where the white men can provide you gorilllaz with white men's higher living modern standards. lol! Don't tell us, we already know, because White people and our White Developed Nations have always been Superior to your Inferior Black Undeveloped Homelands, ape. lol!

Hahahaha!!! g roid continue to live like undeveloped primitives in your black homelands walking around in rags and carrying sticks like Neolithics. lol
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/04/15/art...

Now tell us how many of you g roids drowned today trying to reach our White Modern Developed Nations. hahaha! The sea full of dead g roids! Priceless! lol

"Black Africans died at Mediterranean Sea during voyage to Europe
Africans were riding a boat and died of dehydration during their 15-day trip.
Within a few days the inflatable boat was punctured and air started to leak out. There was no water onboard and people started to die from dehydration within days, he added. Over half of the deceased were said to have come from Eritrea."
Jake

New York, NY

#20930 Apr 29, 2013
motts wrote:
You must drop in next time you are in Philadelphia. Lovely piece of work.
http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/perman...
This is one of my favourites. I wish I could pull some of those 'Morris moves.' The Black Moors taught the Spanish very well.
http://www.muenchner-stadtmuseum.de/en/muench...
Says the g roid while living in a WHITE modern developed country instead of your undeveloped sh8tlands in Aperica. That is no "expert", that is an inferior freeloading knee grow like you living in a White peoples Modern Developed Country instead of your 3rd World Undeveloped Sh8tlands in Aperica. Meanwhile your g roid "bros" continue to live like undeveloped primitives in your black homelands walking around in rags and carrying sticks like Neolithics. lol
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/04/15/art...

Now tell us how many of you g roids drowned today trying to reach our White Modern Developed Nations. hahaha! The sea full of dead g roids! Priceless! lol

"Black Africans died at Mediterranean Sea during voyage to Europe
Africans were riding a boat and died of dehydration during their 15-day trip.
Within a few days the inflatable boat was punctured and air started to leak out. There was no water onboard and people started to die from dehydration within days, he added. Over half of the deceased were said to have come from Eritrea."

“DANGER!!”

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#20931 Apr 29, 2013
moot wrote:
Let's pretend a BLACK MOORISH ROYALTY
Moulay al-Rashid (1631-1672) was Sultan of Morocco from 1666 to 1672.
Mawlaay or Moulay al-Rashid is called the founder of the Alaouite Dynasty.
this is how Mulay al-Rashid was described at the time: "He is of middle size; his face is long and thin; his beard, forked and white, his color, almost black with a white mark near the nose" - Abbé Busnot, Histoire de Regne de Mouley Ismael, Roven, 1714
http://moorishpac.com/moulay-al-rashid-sultan...
http://www.aucklandartgallery.com/the-collect...
BÚLLSHÍT!!

...as always.

The false portrait, that you and all other Afro-Tools have pretended was the face of "Moulay al-Rashid", was nothing more than a completely unauthorized and absurdly incorrect pseudo-image of the actual Sultan.

Those images were the ignorant scrawlings of an unscrupulous English periodical, and nothing more.

Notice how you conniving and asinine, lower than cøçkroaches/denizens of absurdia,

have so painstakingly striven to avoid presenting any of the OFFICIAL portraits of both that Sultan and his brother.

http://www.dar-sirr.com/Sultan_Moulay_Ismail....

scroll down to see them both, FÓÓL.

“DANGER!!”

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#20932 Apr 29, 2013
moot wrote:
MOORS = BLACK AFRICANS
"Snowden (1970) and Desanges (1981) reference various writers’ physical descriptions...blah blah.
All of the BÚLLSHÍT that you've just cranked out is nothing more than unsubstantiated rhetoric.

::IT MEANS NOTHING::

and

::IT PROVES NOTHING::

•••

What I have that will easily counter your foolish jibberish,

is the cold hard unbiased rationale of the latest up to date scientific DNA analysis:

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...

"We present dense, genome-wide SNP genotyping array data (730,000 sites) from seven North African populations, spanning from Egypt to Morocco, and one Spanish population. We identify a gradient of likely autochthonous Maghrebi ancestry that increases from east to west across northern Africa; this ancestry is likely derived from “back-to-Africa” gene flow more than 12,000 years ago (ya), prior to the Holocene. The indigenous North African ancestry is more frequent in populations with historical Berber ethnicity.

In most North African populations we also see substantial shared ancestry with the Near East, and to a lesser extent sub-Saharan Africa and Europe.

To estimate the time of migration from sub-Saharan populations into North Africa, we implement a maximum likelihood dating method based on the distribution of migrant tracts. In order to first identify migrant tracts, we assign local ancestry to haplotypes using a novel, principal component-based analysis of three ancestral populations.

We estimate that a migration of western African origin into Morocco began about 40 generations ago (approximately 1,200 ya); a migration of individuals with Nilotic ancestry into Egypt occurred about 25 generations ago (approximately 750 ya)."

•••

Any misgivings, about the bias of universally accepted Western science, is merely just more dried mud-stones being cast from the wafer-thin glass houses of Afro-Foolish mumbo-jumbo spewing pseudo-science YouTube witchdoctors.

“DANGER!!”

Level 8

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#20933 Apr 30, 2013
motts wrote:
You must drop in next time you are in Philadelphia. Lovely piece of work.
http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/perman...
This is one of my favourites. I wish I could pull some of those 'Morris moves.' The Black Moors taught the Spanish very well.
http://www.muenchner-stadtmuseum.de/en/muench...
BÚLLSHÍT!!!

The following is what REAL Moroccan Berbers have to say about the Harratin Negros...

BLACK MOROCCAN SOLDIERS WERE CONSCRIPTED SLAVES:

http://www.dar-sirr.com/Sultan_Moulay_Ismail....

"When Mawlay al-Rashid's half-brother Mawlay Ismail b. al-Sharif al-Hassani (1672-1727) assumed power, he soon resolved the Makhzan’s depen­dence on unreliable tribal forces by substituting for them a professional black army ('Abid); the 'Abid were made to swear allegiance to their Sultan using al-Bukhari's book, hence their name 'Abid al-Bukhari. This method of recruitment was by no means revo­lutionary, since it had already been adopted by Ahmad al-Mansur al-Sa’adi.But a dynasty's complete reliance on African troops to govern was certainly new. None­theless, the creation of the black slave army, was cer­tainly a 'coup de génie' in the Makhzan's efforts to assuage refractory tribes. With his new army, which by some exaggerated accounts reached 150,000 men, Mawlay Isma'il was able to reduce drastically the subversive influence of the Brotherhoods.

In spite of this he ran into serious opposition from the 'Ulama, particularly Fasis 'Ulama', concerning the legality of forced 'military slavery.' The point of dispute was the compulsory incorporation into the 'Abid army of Moroccan subjects who happened to be of negroïd ancestry (Harratin).

The 'Ulama' argued that any subject whose slave status could not be lawfully demonstrated could not be impressed into the Diwan of 'Abid.

Mawlay Isma'il never fully reconciled the 'Ulama' to his views. As Commander of the Faithful (Amir al-Muminin), legitimized by his 'natural' as well as 'earned' Baraka, Mawlay Ismail exhibited an uncompromising devotion. He made it a point to remind his subjects of his moral superiority by an ostentatious display of religiosity at his court in Meknes ("the exemplary center"), reminiscent of the later 'Abbasid period. It was designed to project a daunting image of a cosmic order personified in the Sultan."

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#20935 May 2, 2013
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<quoted text>You are correct - Ibn Khaldun THE ANDALUSIAN - knew exactly what he was talking about “Ham, having become black because of a curse pronounced against him by his father, fled to the Maghrib to hide in shame.... Berber, son of Kesloudjim [Casluhim], one of his descendants, left numerous posterity in the Maghrib”(Smith, 2003, Smith, R.(2003).“What happened to the ancient Libyans? Chasing sources
across the Sahara from Herodotus to Ibn Khaldun,” Journal of World History 14:4, p. 482).
This comment that you said is totaly incorrect Ibn Khaldun THE ANDALUSIAN - knew exactly what he was talking about “Ham, having become black because of a curse pronounced against him by his father, fled to the Maghrib to hide in shame.... Berber,

Wrong! first this dummy called Ibn Khaldun the Turk should have read the BIBLE Ham was NOT CURSED dummy it was his son Canaan here is the scripture your boy should have read and you as well Its copy and paste time you are a uneducated clown for that comment.



Gen 9-25
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren

Did you read or can you read canaan was cursed NOT HAM and that curse has nothing to do with COLOR or his skin color was cursed

for your info all people on Earth were different shades of BROWN and BLACK skin NO ONE ON EARTH AT THIS TIME WERE WHITE!

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