The Moors were not Black
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#20875 Feb 28, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
What about the black paintings of the Santorinis with Cattle Designed shields like Nubia and Egypt cant refute that huh. So they where Caucusian who bit off Nubian swag. Come withsome dna bullshit only proves that African gave the gene to you or at best mixture with other low budget people up there.
Those aren't "black" paintings " of the Santorinis with Cattle Designed shields like Nubia and Egypt ". No 'African' gave the gene' to them. And yes they were Caucasian as DNA of people from those regions at the time show them to be similar in phenotypes and genetics with modern people from those areas today and did NOT cluster close to any Nubians or Egyptians. Nubians were painting white people in their artwork, guess that makes Nubians white, huh? Ridiculous. People should learn about artistic interpretations and not confuse them with genetics and anthropological scientific findings.
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#20876 Feb 28, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
Looks like the Afronazis have fled (from evidence) and left No-Truth Psycho Buttwad here to preach his incredibly insane Biblical interpretations... LOL!!!
Without Topix what would I do for entertainment?
'No-Truth Psycho Buttwad'? Ha! That's a good one, have to remember that one. I'm still waiting for No Truth Self Hating Jackass to explain why his "predictions" of white people bcoming 'enslaved', the US Dollar being dumped for a "NEW GLOBAL Currency", people rioting in the streets and dying, and whatever other stupid nonsense claims he made did NOT take place Dec. 2012 as his Dumbass stupidly claimed will happen. lol

Level 2

Since: May 11

United States

#20877 Feb 28, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
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You're barely coherent, but still it is obvious that you're wrong.
The Maghreb has been predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years. That is well proven by DNA and other evidence.
Your Afronazi racism will not stand, boy.
So you are saying blacks gave you that gene. Saratinis,Minoans,Crete,Mycene ans all have artwork depictine dark curly,straight to afro hair like HOA today. Also they painted white darked haired people to. Even when you get up to the Etruscans. Bible itself said HAMs descendants made it that far as well as Japheth thats what you confuse with white present but thats the bible and you might be atheist.

Level 2

Since: May 11

United States

#20878 Feb 28, 2013
Whats with the constant labels and petty stuff. Is this highschool lol. Afronazi wtf. I dont want to kill Jews or steal history. I have no doubt that white were there and Indians were in America, Semites in Middle East but you a fool to think Africans wasnt there.

Level 2

Since: May 11

United States

#20879 Feb 28, 2013
Explain the cattle styled shields like Nubias,Egypt and Zulu Tribe. That show similiar culture or at best copying from which you had to come in contact with.
Jeff wrote:
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Those aren't "black" paintings " of the Santorinis with Cattle Designed shields like Nubia and Egypt ". No 'African' gave the gene' to them. And yes they were Caucasian as DNA of people from those regions at the time show them to be similar in phenotypes and genetics with modern people from those areas today and did NOT cluster close to any Nubians or Egyptians. Nubians were painting white people in their artwork, guess that makes Nubians white, huh? Ridiculous. People should learn about artistic interpretations and not confuse them with genetics and anthropological scientific findings.
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#20880 Feb 28, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
<quoted text>So you are saying blacks gave you that gene. Saratinis,Minoans,Crete,Mycene ans all have artwork depictine dark curly,straight to afro hair like HOA today. Also they painted white darked haired people to. Even when you get up to the Etruscans. Bible itself said HAMs descendants made it that far as well as Japheth thats what you confuse with white present but thats the bible and you might be atheist.
No they do not. Saratinis,Minoans,Crete,Mycene ans, Etruscans, etc do not depict themselves with afro hair like HOA today, and having dark culry straight hair is common among Caucasian people. As I already explained to you their genetic make up clusters them with modern Europeans, they do not cluster with HOAs not genetically nor phenotypically. There is no such thing as 'Ham' descendants. That is total biblical nonsense. Sratinis,Minoans,Crete,Mycenea ns, Etruscans, etc were and still are Caucasians. Stop making things up.
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#20881 Feb 28, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
Explain the cattle styled shields like Nubias,Egypt and Zulu Tribe. That show similiar culture or at best copying from which you had to come in contact with.<quoted text>
I arleady explained it to you that they are NOT showing any cattle styled shields like Nubias,Egypt and Zulu Tribe based upon any "similar" culture cause they were not similar. Their shields, armor, weapons, etc were Anatolian inspired that were popular and used by Hittites and other Anatolian peoples that spread from Western Anatolia to Bronze age civilizations of the Balkans.

Level 2

Since: May 11

United States

#20882 Feb 28, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
No they do not. Saratinis,Minoans,Crete,Mycene ans, Etruscans, etc do not depict themselves with afro hair like HOA today, and having dark culry straight hair is common among Caucasian people. As I already explained to you their genetic make up clusters them with modern Europeans, they do not cluster with HOAs not genetically nor phenotypically. There is no such thing as 'Ham' descendants. That is total biblical nonsense. Sratinis,Minoans,Crete,Mycenea ns, Etruscans, etc were and still are Caucasians. Stop making things up.
Man you cant tell me to deny my eyes. I just watch the history channel on Minoans and Etruscans. Ill give you that mixed later and eventually faded out but thats about it. Island of Crete spoke a Mende language. Explain that to me my good sir Jeff.

ONCE AGAIN EXPLAiN THE MILITARY SHIELD similiarities to NUBIA,EGYPT,ETHIOPIA,AND ZULU TRIBES. Dont dodge and w/o demeaning language in your proffesional assement of this mystery.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#20883 Feb 28, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
<quoted text>So you are saying blacks gave you that gene. Saratinis,Minoans,Crete,Mycene ans all have artwork depictine dark curly,straight to afro hair like HOA today. Also they painted white darked haired people to. Even when you get up to the Etruscans. Bible itself said HAMs descendants made it that far as well as Japheth thats what you confuse with white present but thats the bible and you might be atheist.
Wrong. Minoans were Europeans. Likewise Etruscans.

Curly hair does not make one black, duh. You are a victim of white-supremacist USA mentality... if you're not “white enough”, then you're black. I do not go along with that racist thinking, as you do.

You cannot derive an accurate picture of antiquity from the Bible alone. For example... just where are the descendants of Ham? Which genetic marker(s) do they have?

I'm pagan and Hindu. Not atheist.

Level 2

Since: May 11

United States

#20884 Feb 28, 2013
This is the EGYPTIANS DEPICTION OF MINOANS. PS WHITES EXISTED AT THIS TIME!

http://www.utexas.edu/courses/cc302k/Egypt/Eg...
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#20885 Feb 28, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
<quoted text> Man you cant tell me to deny my eyes. I just watch the history channel on Minoans and Etruscans. Ill give you that mixed later and eventually faded out but thats about it. Island of Crete spoke a Mende language. Explain that to me my good sir Jeff.
ONCE AGAIN EXPLAiN THE MILITARY SHIELD similiarities to NUBIA,EGYPT,ETHIOPIA,AND ZULU TRIBES. Dont dodge and w/o demeaning language in your proffesional assement of this mystery.
BULL$hit!

Minoans did not speak Mande, LOL!!! You're incredibly deluded by Afronazi cult thinking.

Minoa was European. Its cultural antecedents were in the Balkans and Anatolia.

You can find various “similarities” all over the world. Without some real evidence of contact, they mean nothing.

STOP your criminal culture-vulturism against other peoples' histories, boy!!! Get your grubby greasy racist Afronazi paws off Minoa and all other non-black civilizations.

There will be a price to pay for your racism, boy.
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#20886 Feb 28, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
<quoted text> Man you cant tell me to deny my eyes. I just watch the history channel on Minoans and Etruscans. Ill give you that mixed later and eventually faded out but thats about it. Island of Crete spoke a Mende language. Explain that to me my good sir Jeff.
ONCE AGAIN EXPLAiN THE MILITARY SHIELD similiarities to NUBIA,EGYPT,ETHIOPIA,AND ZULU TRIBES. Dont dodge and w/o demeaning language in your proffesional assement of this mystery.
And like I explained to you the Nubians were painting white people. Guess that makes the Nubians according to your point of views.

Stop posting nonsense. The Minoans, Etrsucans etc were Caucasians similar to modern Europeans from those regions today. No one spoke any Mende language on the Island of Crete, stop lying cause you just end up looking foolish. I already explained it, they did NOT have military shields that were similar to any Nubian, Egyptian, Ethiopian or Zulu tribes. Their military shields were influenced by Anatolian military and weaponry. You know ANATOLIA the region RIGHT NEXT to the homelands of the Minoans. They weren't influenced by people on ANOTHER CONTINENT who they barely had contact with. Get real and use some common sense.

"Contrary to the theory that the Aegean civilizations was a result of settlers from Africa, the majority of the [neolithic] halogroups in the region are characterized from the monocleuid [Eurasian] markers. In the samples however from Egypt these markers were not found. This shows that there was no genetic contact between Egypt and the Island of Crete. Helladic area was not invaded by Egyptian populations as the DNA analysis show, but by settlers from Anatolia." ~ Minoan Crete Genetics

"All mitochondrial lineages observed among the Etruscans appear typically European or West Asian..Etruscans were Lydians of Anatolia who were fleeing from famine (Barker and Rasmussen 1998). Some affinities between the Lydian and the Etruscan languages have been recognized (Beekes 2002), and gene flow from the eastern Mediterranean area is impossible to rule out on archaeological grounds (Tykot 1994).
The similarity between the Etruscan and Turkish gene pools may indeed reflect degree of gene flow. Commercial exchanges are documented between the Etruscan harbours and Asia Minor (Tykot 1994) and trading is often accompanied by interbreeding." ultimately leading to detectable levels of genetic affinity (see Relethford and Crawford 1995)." ~ C Vernesi et. al.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#20887 Feb 28, 2013
Yep. Minoa in fact was an offspring of Vinca...

You know, Vinca, the civilization Afronazis pretend didn't exist? LOL!!!
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#20888 Feb 28, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
This is the EGYPTIANS DEPICTION OF MINOANS. PS WHITES EXISTED AT THIS TIME!
http://www.utexas.edu/courses/cc302k/Egypt/Eg...
No those aren't Egyptian depictions of Minoans. Those are depictions of the "chosen offerings of the chiefs of the Gentiles of Kufa." (Kufa is an ancient city in Mesopotamia in what is now modern Iraq).

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#20891 Feb 28, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
<quoted text> Man you cant tell me to deny my eyes. I just watch the history channel on Minoans and Etruscans. Ill give you that mixed later and eventually faded out but thats about it. Island of Crete spoke a Mende language. Explain that to me my good sir Jeff.
ONCE AGAIN EXPLAiN THE MILITARY SHIELD similiarities to NUBIA,EGYPT,ETHIOPIA,AND ZULU TRIBES. Dont dodge and w/o demeaning language in your proffesional assement of this mystery.
I can see Clyde Winters has infected himself another one.

Oy vey.

Level 2

Since: May 11

United States

#20892 Feb 28, 2013
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>
I can see Clyde Winters has infected himself another one.
Oy vey.
Explain?
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#20893 Feb 28, 2013
Clyde thinks everyone spoke Mende---Medieval-era Mende---no matter where or when.

I've often wondered which of these sock puppets are really Clyde himself.

Yo, Clyde. You're wack. You're a fraud.

By the way, Clyde, do you, like Rashidi, think that the Khmer were really black and spoke Mende?

Do expound on this as I am bored.

Level 2

Since: May 11

United States

#20894 Feb 28, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
Clyde thinks everyone spoke Mende---Medieval-era Mende---no matter where or when.
I've often wondered which of these sock puppets are really Clyde himself.
Yo, Clyde. You're wack. You're a fraud.
By the way, Clyde, do you, like Rashidi, think that the Khmer were really black and spoke Mende?
Do expound on this as I am bored.
I will im in research mode right now. I actually look at yall view of things

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#20895 Feb 28, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
<quoted text>I will im in research mode right now. I actually look at yall view of things
Punchoir, I would like to know where you have gotten your information from pertaining to the etruscans, cretans, etc.

I would also like to know the source of your seeming affinity toward the Elamites, if you don't mind.

Level 2

Since: May 11

United States

#20896 Feb 28, 2013
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>
Punchoir, I would like to know where you have gotten your information from pertaining to the etruscans, cretans, etc.
I would also like to know the source of your seeming affinity toward the Elamites, if you don't mind.
Pertaining to Etruscan being hebrew is still bein research but is being considered. Alot of stuff I googled and cross refrence from whay was said. The pictures I google Etruscan art and structure and it poped up.

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