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HAH!

IN YOUR DREAMS, "TROLLSPUTO"...

The general population of North Africa has not changed significantly since before the Holocene Period.

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...

"The indigenous North African ancestry may have been more common in Berber populations and appears most closely related to populations outside of Africa, but divergence between Maghrebi peoples and Near Eastern/Europeans likely precedes the Holocene (>12,000 ya)."

THAT alone dispels any asinine unscientific fantasy speculations about European slaves having been so numerous as to have actually been able to put a noticeable dent in the genetic profile of North Africa.

From since before the Holocene Period, the general overall population of Western North Africa has consisted of the three following genetic structures:

http://www.humanphenotypes.com/Saharid.html

http://www.humanphenotypes.com/Berberid.html

http://www.humanphenotypes.com/Arabid.html

…and there’s not a dámned thing you can do to change that.

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http://www.humanphenotypes.com/NorthAethiopid...

Even the "North Aethiopid" which is associated with the Beja , Hadendowa, Tigre and similar people,

and is said to be the origin of the "Saharan Tuareg" are "Mostly Caucasoid with only very few Nég®öïd elements".

http://www.humanphenotypes.com/SouthSaharid.h...

There's also the "South Saharid" type, of which there aren't very many, as they are strictly from the Saharan Desert which is very sparsely populated.

Those "South Saharid" Peoples are "Predominantely Caucasoid, but with visible Nég®öïd influences".

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http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...

So much for that ídiot speculation about an imaginary population changing onslaught of European Slaves, FÓÓL.

If THAT had actually been happening, to that degree, there never would have been a market for the BLACK SLAVES that the the Saharan Tuareg made a centuries long career of transporting up to the Maghribíya and its Maghribíyan ports.

"We also find significant signatures of sub-Saharan African ancestry that vary substantially among populations. These sub-Saharan ancestries appear to be a recent introduction into North African populations, dating to about 1,200 years ago in southern Morocco and about 750 years ago into Egypt, possibly reflecting the patterns of the trans-Saharan slave trade that occurred during this period."

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"Robert Davis" was merely a lowly Professor of History at Ohio State University.

He is no anthropologist.

Robert Davis admitted, in that very same book, that his highly sensational and controversial book was strictly based on pure speculative conjecture and had absolutely no scientific basis upon which he could stake it's likelihood.

Robert Davis is NOT trained or skilled as an anthropologist and would never ever be able to withstand the withering reprisals that would be forthcoming from any exposure to critique from any true anthropological review.

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Many North African nations exclude themselves from being identified as African because they know they are not indigenous to the land. If you can't tell the difference between a Nilotic person situated in Sudan from a mixed Arab/Turk living in Algeria then that's your own stupidity. Bottom line is the term Moor essentially means Black, a identification that the Europeans who they civilised and brought out of the dark ages seemed to agree upon.
HAH!

That shít's no more accurate than your last statement concerning what YOU claimed to be the origin of the word, "slave".

It did not come from the word, "Slavic".

The English word, "slave", came from the french word, "sclave".

I've already explained that to you, and the really intelligent scholars of this planet also know that, in truth, the Muslims had precious little to do with the reflowering of European culture from the disarray of Medieval times.

The true credit goes mostly to the Holy Roman Emperor and to the stored knowledge of the Byzantine Empire.

Certainly the Maghribíyan Berbers were not this edifying instrument and much less did any Timbuktu zealots have any part of this.

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Even white people are essentially broken into three sub groups, the Alpine, the Nordic, and mediterennean. I remember studying the subject and reading quotes made by eugenic racist who claimed the Nordic race which was classified as the superior white race was the true definition of white beauty while the alpine was the more backwards slow and unwanted. Now imagine if that type of crap was actually pushed out by mainstream media, you would have white people killing one and other to go get some hair dye lol. Bottom line is they are all white people some with a little bit more colour to their skin some with broader features some with slimmer features yet they are all white so stop trying to divide us since you don't like dividing yourselves.
Get a clue, FÓÓL.

There were mørøns called 'Nazis'.

They had a war, and the Nazis lost.

The Nazis would have long ago fried your ásses up had not armies of Caucasians put a stop to them.
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Lol your such a retard! World War 1 and 2 was essentially Europe self imploding, In other words white on white crime. It didn't have anything to do with us yet Africans and other none white people got involved and actually helped fight and win the war so thank us you neo nazi.

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Lol your such a retard! World War 1 and 2 was essentially Europe self imploding, In other words white on white crime. It didn't have anything to do with us yet Africans and other none white people got involved and actually helped fight and win the war so thank us you neo nazi.
HAH!

MÓRÓN, that just proves that you are even more deluded.
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I suggest you read up on the Arabic slave trade which essentially along with various foreign invasions helped push the indigenous peoples out from the land. This is why in many countries situated in north Africa you still have indigenous Black Africans living more towards the south who pre date the arrival of Islam. And for the record even in Ethiopia you have various different tribes with different looks like the Oromo and Amharah or the Ari and Hamer look it up donut.

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IDOMA NASI wrote:
I suggest you read up on the Arabic slave trade which essentially along with various foreign invasions helped push the indigenous peoples out from the land. This is why in many countries situated in north Africa you still have indigenous Black Africans living more towards the south who pre date the arrival of Islam. And for the record even in Ethiopia you have various different tribes with different looks like the Oromo and Amharah or the Ari and Hamer look it up donut.
HAH!

The Ethiopians were not Moors and even they were more often than not more Caucasian than Nég®öïd.

The shít you read isn't of much more use than backwoods áss wipe.

None of that shít can stand up to the scrutiny of legitimate anthropological evidence.

So, go peddle that shít somewhere that there isn't someone who knows better.
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I never claimed the Ethiopians were Moors I used them as a example to show diversity within the continent. Bottom line is the moors were a group of people consisting of various nationalities which came out of Africa to Europe to civilise and bring them out of the dark ages.
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slave (slv)
n.
1. One bound in servitude as the property of a person or household.
2. One who is abjectly subservient to a specified person or influence: "I was still the slave of education and prejudice" (Edward Gibbon).
3. One who works extremely hard.
4. A machine or component controlled by another machine or component.
intr.v. slaved, slav·ing, slaves
1. To work very hard or doggedly; toil.
2. To trade in or transport slaves.

[Middle English sclave, from Old French esclave, from Medieval Latin sclvus, from Sclvus, Slav (from the widespread enslavement of captured Slavs in the early Middle Ages); see Slav.]

Checkmate my friend
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IDOMA NASI wrote:
Many North African nations exclude themselves from being identified as African because they know they are not indigenous to the land. If you can't tell the difference between a Nilotic person situated in Sudan from a mixed Arab/Turk living in Algeria then that's your own stupidity. Bottom line is the term Moor essentially means Black, a identification that the Europeans who they civilised and brought out of the dark ages seemed to agree upon.
Wrong again.

Mixed Arab-Turks? LOL... there is ample proof that there is continuity in the Maghreb population going back 30k years. They are BERBERS (Amazigh) and they are a Eurasian people.

Moor does not mean black. It originally meant “Westerner”, but came to mean a Muslim associated with the Western Islamic realm. As that empire included blacks from the south, there were black Moors, but the original Moors, those who conquered part of Iberia, and who were the majority of Moors, were non-black Berbers.

This is PROVEN. Your idiotic denial stems from racism. Lose it before I'm forced to slap it out of you.
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HAH!
That shít's no more accurate than your last statement concerning what YOU claimed to be the origin of the word, "slave".
It did not come from the word, "Slavic".
The English word, "slave", came from the french word, "sclave".
I've already explained that to you, and the really intelligent scholars of this planet also know that, in truth, the Muslims had precious little to do with the reflowering of European culture from the disarray of Medieval times.
The true credit goes mostly to the Holy Roman Emperor and to the stored knowledge of the Byzantine Empire.
Certainly the Maghribíyan Berbers were not this edifying instrument and much less did any Timbuktu zealots have any part of this.
It would seem that the Islamic contribution to the reflowering of high culture in Europe, the Renaissance, etc., is limited to an atmosphere of intellectual freedom which was short-lived but which enabled the translation and proliferation of ancient knowledge contained in manuscripts which were of Greek and Roman origin!

Among people alive in that era, those most responsible for the Renaissance are in fact such as Saint Francis and Roger II of Sicily.

Any of the following people Moors?
Giotto
Frangelico
Donatello
Petrarch

Nope.

And the monks reintroducing literacy to Western Europe, were they Moors? Nope, Irish mostly.

The Moors did, however, make great advances in the art of boy-buggery.
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IDOMA NASI wrote:
I suggest you read up on the Arabic slave trade which essentially along with various foreign invasions helped push the indigenous peoples out from the land. This is why in many countries situated in north Africa you still have indigenous Black Africans living more towards the south who pre date the arrival of Islam. And for the record even in Ethiopia you have various different tribes with different looks like the Oromo and Amharah or the Ari and Hamer look it up donut.
Subsaharan component of Berbers is determined by genetics to be due to the SLAVE TRADE of blacks by Tuareg and Berbers.

There is ample proof that for 30,000 years Eurasians have populated the Maghreb.

Please explain the remains 12k bp from Taforalt Morocco which were 100% Eurasian genetically. Were they Arab-Turks? LOL!!! Vandals? LOL!!! White slaves? LOL!!!

Piss off, numbnuts.

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IDOMA NASI wrote:
slave (slv)
n.
1. One bound in servitude as the property of a person or household.
2. One who is abjectly subservient to a specified person or influence: "I was still the slave of education and prejudice" (Edward Gibbon).
3. One who works extremely hard.
4. A machine or component controlled by another machine or component.
intr.v. slaved, slav·ing, slaves
1. To work very hard or doggedly; toil.
2. To trade in or transport slaves.
[Middle English sclave, from Old French esclave, from Medieval Latin sclvus, from Sclvus, Slav (from the widespread enslavement of captured Slavs in the early Middle Ages); see Slav.]
Checkmate my friend
"Check" MY ÁSS, FÓÓL.

No matter how many times you see that entry, it's still completely erroneous and I've already proved that to be so.

Even during the MIddle ages all references to what is today referred to as a "slave",
as in 'Human-property',
and ONLY IN ENGLISH,

was referred to as a "Sclave" or "Scvus" or "Scavo" or "Sklavos" or "Sklave" in all other European languages and that spelling for the word that means 'Human-prperty' is STILL the spelling that is employed today.

Latin of course has changed to Italian, but the only difference is that it changed from "Scvus" to "Sclavo" just as in the Spanish.

Your pathetically highjacked and erroneous references are all full of highly inaccurate statements, and that's just too bad for YOU because YOU obviously do not possess the requisite intellect necessary to enable your mind to steer around those trap falls, FÓÓL.
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slave in other Oxford dictionaries
Origin:

Middle English: shortening of Old French esclave, equivalent of medieval Latin sclava (feminine)'Slavonic (captive)': the Slavonic peoples had been reduced to a servile state by conquest in the 9th century

Listen your in conflict with your own people lol thats Oxford dictionary so go cry to them you little bitch!

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Bottom line, "moreno" does NOT mean 'Black' and it was never meant to.
I hope you realize that, even in that english dictionary, it was NEVER stated that "Moreno" meant 'Black' and that when it referenced "raza negra" it also placed a parentetical "(euph)" next to it, meaning that today's use of the word, "Moreno", is ONLY used (((EUPHEMISTICALLY))) when used in reference to any Negros.
Look THAT up in your 'Funk & Wagnalls'.
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eu•phe•mism
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1.
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indirect,
or vague expression
for one thought to be offensive,
harsh, or blunt.
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WRONG dam you whites are historicaly challenged

this is what the word BLACK meant in ancient times

DARK NAMES:

On this page you will find names associated with dark,
darkness, dark skin, dark warriors, dark strangers, dark places, etc.
Also see Black Names, Night Names, and Sunset Names
http://www.20000-names.com/dark_names.htm

LEILAH:
Variant spelling of Arabic Leila, meaning "night."
Variant spelling of Hebrew Leila, meaning "night" or "dark Oriental beauty."

MALINDA: Variant spelling of English Melinda, meaning either "black/dark serpent" or "sweet serpent."

MAURA: Feminine form of Italian Mauro, meaning "dark-skinned; Moor." Compare with another form of Maura.

MELAENA: Latin form of Greek Melaina, meaning "black, dark." In mythology, this is the name of a Naiad Nymph of springs.

MELAINA (&#924;&#941;&#955 ;&#945;&#953;&#957 ;&#945;): Variant spelling of Greek Melaine, meaning "black, dark." In mythology, this is the name of a Naiad Nymph of springs.

MELAINE (&#924;&#949;&#955 ;&#945;&#953;&#957 ;&#951;): Greek name derived from the word, melaina, meaning "black, dark." In mythology, this is the name of a Naiad Nymph of springs.

MELANIA: Italian and Spanish form of Latin Melaena, meaning "black, dark."
MÉLANIE: French form of Latin Melaena, meaning "black, dark."
MELANIE: English form of French Mélanie, meaning "black, dark."
MELANY: Variant spelling of English Melanie, meaning "black, dark."
MELINDA: Modern English compound name composed of Mel-(from Melissa ("sweet") or Melanie "black, dark") and Linda "serpent," hence "black/dark serpent" or "sweet serpent."

MELLONY: Variant spelling of English Melanie, meaning "black, dark."

MINDY: Pet form of English Melinda, meaning "black/dark serpent" or "sweet serpent."

NEREZA: Variant spelling of Italian Nerezza, meaning "darkness."

NEREZZA: Modern Italian name derived from the word nerezza, meaning "darkness."

SAUDA: African Swahili name meaning "dark-complexioned."

These are the names associated with dark,
darkness, dark skin, dark warriors, dark strangers, dark places

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IDOMA NASI wrote:
slave in other Oxford dictionaries
Origin:
Middle English: shortening of Old French esclave, equivalent of medieval Latin sclava (feminine)'Slavonic (captive)': the Slavonic peoples had been reduced to a servile state by conquest in the 9th century
Listen your in conflict with your own people lol thats Oxford dictionary so go cry to them you little bitch!
HAH!

I'm not English,

and read your own statement.

It shows you're an illogical FÔÔL,ÍDIOT.

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TRUTH HITMAN IS BACK wrote:
<quoted text>WRONG dam you whites are historicaly challenged
this is what the word BLACK meant in ancient times
DARK NAMES:
On this page you will find names associated with dark,
darkness, dark skin, dark warriors, dark strangers, dark places, etc.
Also see Black Names, Night Names, and Sunset Names
http://www.20000-names.com/dark_names.htm
LEILAH:
Variant spelling of Arabic Leila, meaning "night."
Variant spelling of Hebrew Leila, meaning "night" or "dark Oriental beauty."
MALINDA: Variant spelling of English Melinda, meaning either "black/dark serpent" or "sweet serpent."
MAURA: Feminine form of Italian Mauro, meaning "dark-skinned; Moor." Compare with another form of Maura.
MELAENA: Latin form of Greek Melaina, meaning "black, dark." In mythology, this is the name of a Naiad Nymph of springs.
MELAINA (&#924;&#941;&#955 ;&#945;&#953;&#957 ;&#945;): Variant spelling of Greek Melaine, meaning "black, dark." In mythology, this is the name of a Naiad Nymph of springs.
MELAINE (&#924;&#949;&#955 ;&#945;&#953;&#957 ;&#951;): Greek name derived from the word, melaina, meaning "black, dark." In mythology, this is the name of a Naiad Nymph of springs.
MELANIA: Italian and Spanish form of Latin Melaena, meaning "black, dark."
MÉLANIE: French form of Latin Melaena, meaning "black, dark."
MELANIE: English form of French Mélanie, meaning "black, dark."
MELANY: Variant spelling of English Melanie, meaning "black, dark."
MELINDA: Modern English compound name composed of Mel-(from Melissa ("sweet") or Melanie "black, dark") and Linda "serpent," hence "black/dark serpent" or "sweet serpent."
MELLONY: Variant spelling of English Melanie, meaning "black, dark."
MINDY: Pet form of English Melinda, meaning "black/dark serpent" or "sweet serpent."
NEREZA: Variant spelling of Italian Nerezza, meaning "darkness."
NEREZZA: Modern Italian name derived from the word nerezza, meaning "darkness."
SAUDA: African Swahili name meaning "dark-complexioned."
These are the names associated with dark,
darkness, dark skin, dark warriors, dark strangers, dark places
"DARK" is not 'Black', FÔÔL,

"NEGRO" is 'Black',

and "MORENO" never actually meant 'Black'.

All it ever really meant was 'dark' and that was in comparison to some VERY pale complected European phenotypes.

If a person had dark hair, dark eyes, and a tan, that person would have been designated as MORENO.

More Caucasians fit into the proper "MORENO" classification than not.

Keep your grubby Negro hands off Northern Mediterranean diction,ÁSSHÔLE.

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Ok there Dna Eurasian answer this though what are there bone structure classified as.
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Wrong again.
Mixed Arab-Turks? LOL... there is ample proof that there is continuity in the Maghreb population going back 30k years. They are BERBERS (Amazigh) and they are a Eurasian people.
Moor does not mean black. It originally meant “Westerner”, but came to mean a Muslim associated with the Western Islamic realm. As that empire included blacks from the south, there were black Moors, but the original Moors, those who conquered part of Iberia, and who were the majority of Moors, were non-black Berbers.
This is PROVEN. Your idiotic denial stems from racism. Lose it before I'm forced to slap it out of you.

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Abu Bakr ibn Umar(search about him) were black and his picture can prove that. The most of al-Moravid Dinasty was also.
They came from Africa and surely some of them had black skin. Till nowadays a large portion of Moroccan people has colored skin.
Let's face the Truth!!!

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Jahx wrote:
Abu Bakr ibn Umar(search about him) were black and his picture can prove that. The most of al-Moravid Dinasty was also.
They came from Africa and surely some of them had black skin. Till nowadays a large portion of Moroccan people has colored skin.
Let's face the Truth!!!
HAH!

THE JOKES ON YOU, FÔÔL!

We searched on him long ago and we know that what you 'think' is your "Abu Bkr" was a member of the main "Lamtuna Tribe" and as such would have been a Caucasian.

That so-called "picture of him was an erroneous caricature of him which was created by someone completely ignorant of "Abu Bkr's" actual genetic make up.

That caricature was created 300 years after "Abu Bkr" was dead and gone and it was done by someone who never laid eyes upon any Almoravids, Lamtuna, or Berber Moors.

Don't be cartin' around all that lame áss shít,'less you're lookin' ta get flushed down the shítter.

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