The Moors were not Black

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#15796 Nov 26, 2011
king Ra-oh wrote:
<quoted text>another imposter; so now you want to share information to prove you know something, what an idiot.ok im not gone be specific about the name of palestine if your going to keep identifying people with colors and other names created by slave masters.look you are a rape victim a Mongrel dude another thief and just so happen you are in my land America.check pan american conference of 1928 where the families of nations gave drew ali a mandate to retrieve lands stolen by the U.S and conspirators like you. all of you are phony and finite minded,I care nothin about africa or india or palestine>I do care about a bunch of illegal foreignors and black chattle property doing business on my land and not paying tribute,now you go back and get educated on what a moorish american is(a true American citizen, aboriginal), and trust me when the U.S is carted off like the Avatar movie his negro black and colored will be excused too as well as other faulty business men like your self,Desert Mongrel P.S stop the chicanery an the bafoonery your time is up puppets
You're an idiotic Moorish cultist... Drew Ali was a sociopath and scum. You are babbling nonsense, fool. Learn some real history. I know what a “Moorish American” is... a FANTASY created by a lunatic!

You're a marginal fringe nutcase. Get therapy and then an education. As it is, you are pointless and of no use to anyone.

“Imposter”,“rape victim”? Are you assuming I'm Mexican? So Native Americans aren't really native here? LOL!!!!!!!!!!

You should go on TV as a comedy act.
moor83

United States

#15797 Nov 26, 2011
NearFuture wrote:
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This is interesting post more proof please
More than 25 years earlier than Menendez, famed conquistador Hernando De Soto led his expeditionary army on a historic march through the Aboriginal American interior. They marveled at the many similarities to Moorish art and architecture the American Natives displayed. The explorers left numerous accounts of encounters with the unexpected items in their narratives. The European (Spaniards) wrote about the American Native made "Moorish Mats," "Moorish Darts," and Moorish Architecture. The early American Ethnologists postulated heavily upon whether or not the iconographic items were the result of iconic memory or more modern influences. 2 generations later, Smithsonian officials would uncover in an ancient Indian Burial Mound what was described as a deceased Native American found in Carthaginian Armor and would document it in the Director's annual Bureau of Ethnology Report of 1882.

aztec first colony was malinalco...mali--nalco..kinda like englands first american colony new england, or new amsterdam...u mean to tell me these aztecs on arrival named their colony after mali by coincidence.

and for all these fools talking about moors were fair skinned people...why would the spanish call the aztecs moors and the aztecs according to the spanish writings were very dark skinned people.

http://books.google.com/books...

moteczuma explaining his lords and they come from a place where the sun rises.....

u see none of these trolls talk about that...why is the aztecs telling you they come from a place where teh sun rises and they are on the coast of eastern mexico...so they can't be talking about the bering straight...wake up people

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#15798 Nov 26, 2011
king Ra-oh wrote:
<quoted text>yes true they were not black because according to science black means death and absence of light they were (men of original race)M.O.O.R) clown stop using colors like a child wheres your education any men of original race is not mixed is not caucasian and dumb black people have not a clue because you can only go back to slavery to find your beginings you should be discussing what concentration camp you will be living on because if you dont have a nationality and you are not in america lawfully you will not live in Al moroc aka all djoining islands aka amexem aka Mrc aka America whos going back to africa now B...hes
Lots of genocidal threats there, boy. Try to implement your madness and you'll have a bullet in the brain. I hope I'm the one who puts it there.

We all know what we're talking about referring to “black” Moors. Most Moors were Berbers, and not black.

YOU are a mixture of West-Central African slave with NW European. Not a Moor. Not a Hebrew. Not an Olmec. Not Native American. Just a confused Afroyank fool.

Get a real education, fool.
LION

Charlotte, NC

#15799 Nov 26, 2011
Curious Me wrote:
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Seriously!!????
Do you ACTUALLY 'think' that's a good argument!?
Are you seriously trying to get us to 'blink' because YOU happen to have this OUTRAGEOUSLY absurd,
and tight fistedly held notion,
that those heraldic images of 'Little-Black-Sambos',
is, SOMEHOW,
actually going to trump(?) each and every single DNA STUDY that has EVER been conducted; even though they ALWAYS have concluded that the basic genetic make up of those North Africans has NOT changed significantly, since the Holocene Period!!???
Apparently, that is EXACTLY what you are saying, so,
YOU LOSE, because that's just absurd.
Then you should be able to qoute someone of the era describing an early moor as nonblack.
You see I have shut this shurivi character up. He knows the truth.
LION

Charlotte, NC

#15800 Nov 26, 2011
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>
You still haven't explained who were these “non-black Muslims”! They were MOORS, fool!
You KNOW you lost this argument, so you just repeat and repeat the same crap, none of which goes anywhere.“Non-black Muslims”,“coats of arms”, lol...
Yet I've provided proof that the Berbers were not black in ancient times, so there went your claim of “race-mixing” lightening them.
Furthermore, shall we now examine all the evidence that the MOORS who conquered Spain were BERBERS??? Do you really want to go through that humiliation?
MOST Moors were not black. That's proven. Move on.
The khazars were a turkish tribe of muslims who were in early europe and there were europeans who had converted to islam after the moorish invasion.
And most of the berbers you are referring to were black african berbers.
Anyway, stop beating around the bush and answer me.
Why are thre no moorish coat of arms with middle eastern types on them? All of the faces onmoorish coat of arms are black african types. Why is this?

“DANGER!!”

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#15801 Nov 26, 2011
moor83 wrote:
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More than 25 years earlier than Menendez, famed conquistador Hernando De Soto led his expeditionary army on a historic march through the Aboriginal American interior. They marveled at the many similarities to Moorish art and architecture the American Natives displayed. The explorers left numerous accounts of encounters with the unexpected items in their narratives. The European (Spaniards) wrote about the American Native made "Moorish Mats," "Moorish Darts," and Moorish Architecture. The early American Ethnologists postulated heavily upon whether or not the iconographic items were the result of iconic memory or more modern influences. 2 generations later, Smithsonian officials would uncover in an ancient Indian Burial Mound what was described as a deceased Native American found in Carthaginian Armor and would document it in the Director's annual Bureau of Ethnology Report of 1882.
aztec first colony was malinalco...mali--nalco..kinda like englands first american colony new england, or new amsterdam...u mean to tell me these aztecs on arrival named their colony after mali by coincidence.
and for all these fools talking about moors were fair skinned people...why would the spanish call the aztecs moors and the aztecs according to the spanish writings were very dark skinned people.
http://books.google.com/books...
moteczuma explaining his lords and they come from a place where the sun rises.....
u see none of these trolls talk about that...why is the aztecs telling you they come from a place where teh sun rises and they are on the coast of eastern mexico...so they can't be talking about the bering straight...wake up people
Now days, there is no such thing as a ~TRUTH~ that can not be found through a legitimate well substantiated site on the Internet.

It's the, now standard cop-out, for FØØLISH Afro-Centrists to claim that their so-called ~truths~ can only be found in the pages of some obscure library book.

The absolute TRUTH about a REAL truth, is that such things will invariably be plastered throughout the pages of the legitimate internet.

Just 'cause you say someone wrote a book about...(((PLEASE)))don't make me laugh.

Take your dúmb áss 'book' and shove it, if you please, but don't expect to 'get by' around HERE, with THAT laughable Afro-Centric búllshít.

“DANGER!!”

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#15802 Nov 26, 2011
LION wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you should be able to qoute someone of the era describing an early moor as nonblack.
You see I have shut this shurivi character up. He knows the truth.
I already did, you already read it, and you are a know nothing jáçkáss.

BTW, what the fúçk is a "shurivi", YOU STÚPID FÚÇKING ÍDIOT.
Anonymous

Powder Springs, GA

#15803 Nov 26, 2011
Curious Me wrote:
<quoted text>
Now days, there is no such thing as a ~TRUTH~ that can not be found through a legitimate well substantiated site on the Internet.
It's the, now standard cop-out, for FØØLISH Afro-Centrists to claim that their so-called ~truths~ can only be found in the pages of some obscure library book.
The absolute TRUTH about a REAL truth, is that such things will invariably be plastered throughout the pages of the legitimate internet.
Just 'cause you say someone wrote a book about...(((PLEASE)))don't make me laugh.
Take your dúmb áss 'book' and shove it, if you please, but don't expect to 'get by' around HERE, with THAT laughable Afro-Centric búllshít.
So you don't challenge his information with yours, you just write it off as afro-centric (which isn't really an insult) bullshiz and tell him to shove it? You sound like an immature child that covers his ears when he heres something he doesn't like. Don't cop out like a bitch.

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#15804 Nov 26, 2011
moor83 wrote:
<quoted text>
More than 25 years earlier than Menendez, famed conquistador Hernando De Soto led his expeditionary army on a historic march through the Aboriginal American interior. They marveled at the many similarities to Moorish art and architecture the American Natives displayed. The explorers left numerous accounts of encounters with the unexpected items in their narratives. The European (Spaniards) wrote about the American Native made "Moorish Mats," "Moorish Darts," and Moorish Architecture. The early American Ethnologists postulated heavily upon whether or not the iconographic items were the result of iconic memory or more modern influences. 2 generations later, Smithsonian officials would uncover in an ancient Indian Burial Mound what was described as a deceased Native American found in Carthaginian Armor and would document it in the Director's annual Bureau of Ethnology Report of 1882.
aztec first colony was malinalco...mali--nalco..kinda like englands first american colony new england, or new amsterdam...u mean to tell me these aztecs on arrival named their colony after mali by coincidence.
and for all these fools talking about moors were fair skinned people...why would the spanish call the aztecs moors and the aztecs according to the spanish writings were very dark skinned people.
http://books.google.com/books...
moteczuma explaining his lords and they come from a place where the sun rises.....
u see none of these trolls talk about that...why is the aztecs telling you they come from a place where teh sun rises and they are on the coast of eastern mexico...so they can't be talking about the bering straight...wake up people
What a crock! You are extremely ignorant. The Aztecs (Mexica) were not on the coast, fool, they were in the Valley of Mexico when the Spanish arived, and their own history stated they came from the NORTH. Their language would agree with that, as it was Nahuatl, a Uto-Aztecan tongue. Their homeland they called Aztlán.

The rest of your post is the same unsubstantiated kind of crap which has been said about Native Americans for years... they seem Irish, they seem Hebrew, they seem Phoenician, they seem Greek... all BS.

Carhaginian armor, yeah right!

STOP trying to steal Native heritage, you culture-vulture!
moor83

United States

#15805 Nov 26, 2011
Curious Me wrote:
<quoted text>
Now days, there is no such thing as a ~TRUTH~ that can not be found through a legitimate well substantiated site on the Internet.
It's the, now standard cop-out, for FØØLISH Afro-Centrists to claim that their so-called ~truths~ can only be found in the pages of some obscure library book.
The absolute TRUTH about a REAL truth, is that such things will invariably be plastered throughout the pages of the legitimate internet.
Just 'cause you say someone wrote a book about...(((PLEASE)))don't make me laugh.
Take your dúmb áss 'book' and shove it, if you please, but don't expect to 'get by' around HERE, with THAT laughable Afro-Centric búllshít.
LOOK AT THE DATES

According to oral tradition, Abubakari gathered shipbuilders and watermen from all over his empire. He is said to have had different boat designs built so that if one failed, another might succeed. Al-Umari recorded the story Mansa Musa told in Egypt in 1324:

The monarch who preceded me would not believe that it was impossible to discover the limits of the neighboring sea. He wished to know. He persisted in his plan. He caused the equipping of two hundred ships and filled them with men, and of each such number that were filled with gold, water, and food for two years. He said to the commanders: Do not return until you have reached the end of the ocean, or when you have exhausted your food and water.

According to al-Umari, only one ship returned. Its captain reported to Abubakari that he had watched as the other ships sailed on, entered a broad current in the midst of the ocean, and disappeared. Instead of following them, he turned around and returned home.

Abubakari then decided to build a fleet of two thousand boats and to command it himself. He conferred power on Musa, specifying that if he did not return after a reasonable amount of time, Musa should inherit the throne. In 1311 Abubakari set out with his fleet down the Senegal River and headed west in the Atlantic. He never returned to Mali, and his brother became Mansa Musa in 1312.

simutaneously

monteczuma saying his people come from where the sun rises

We have known for a long time, from the chronicles of our forefathers, that neither I, nor those who ltonte inhabit this country, are descendants from the aborigines of it,' but from strangers who Discourse came to it from very distant parts; and we t0 *** also hold, that our race was* brought to these parts by a lord, whose vassals they all were, and who returned to his native country. After a long time he came back, but it was so long, that those who remained here were married with the native women of the country, and had many descendants, and had built towns where they were living; when, therefore, he wished to take them away with him, they would not go, nor still less receive him as their ruler, so he departed.2 And we have always held that those who descended from him would

'JSee Appendix ILL at close of Letter 'See Appendix IV. at close of Letter. come to subjugate this country and us, as his vassals; and according to the direction from which you say you come, which is where the sun rises,

interesting...they see a new bird in americas and they heard this

http://books.google.com/books...

what is a black baby doing here...

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#15806 Nov 26, 2011
NearFuture wrote:
<quoted text>
So you don't challenge his information with yours, you just write it off as afro-centric (which isn't really an insult) bullshiz and tell him to shove it? You sound like an immature child that covers his ears when he heres something he doesn't like. Don't cop out like a bitch.
Wrong. If Eurocentrism is racist, then so is Afrocentrism.

What is needed is OBJECTIVE thinking based on evidence and logic.

Wishful thinking that everyone was black, backing it up using marginal sources and mythology, doesn't qualify.

That's why I call it Afronazism... it is a belief system based on theories of racist supremacy whose goal is not knowledge, but to create unsubstantiated claims of superiority and primacy where those are not based on reality.

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#15807 Nov 26, 2011
LION wrote:
<quoted text>
The khazars were a turkish tribe of muslims who were in early europe and there were europeans who had converted to islam after the moorish invasion.
And most of the berbers you are referring to were black african berbers.
Anyway, stop beating around the bush and answer me.
Why are thre no moorish coat of arms with middle eastern types on them? All of the faces onmoorish coat of arms are black african types. Why is this?
Wrong. You are referring to European coats of arms, not Moorish ones. The Moors depicted represent vanquished enemies. The blackamoor was a popular image, blacks being exotic, whereas the majority of Moors, being Berbers, looked like southern Europeans and were not so noticeable.

It is well proven that Berbers were mostly non-black, and that most Moors were Berbers. You have nothing, hence your obsession with coats of arms which are not evidence.

The Khazarim were not in “early Europe”. They appeared in the steppes in Medieval times. They are irrelevant to this discussion.
moor83

United States

#15808 Nov 26, 2011
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>
What a crock! You are extremely ignorant. The Aztecs (Mexica) were not on the coast, fool, they were in the Valley of Mexico when the Spanish arived, and their own history stated they came from the NORTH. Their language would agree with that, as it was Nahuatl, a Uto-Aztecan tongue. Their homeland they called Aztlán.
The rest of your post is the same unsubstantiated kind of crap which has been said about Native Americans for years... they seem Irish, they seem Hebrew, they seem Phoenician, they seem Greek... all BS.
Carhaginian armor, yeah right!
STOP trying to steal Native heritage, you culture-vulture!
lol they came from the north...prove it.. i have something for that theory.

THE JOURNEY OF MANDINGA KING MECI TO THE AMERICAS

According to the writings of Sahagun, a Spanish Monk who studied and translated the works of the Maya Indians of Mexico, ancient Africans arrived in Mexico thousands of years ago from the Atlantic region. They were led by a Black African called Meci who led a fleet of eight Ships. Meci is said to have established African language, religion and culture in Mexico and settled the southern region of Mexico between Yucatan and Mexico City.

This region was the domain of the Olmecs, a mysterious people who are now agreed to have included Africans based on a number of facts found about them. These facts include the hundreds of terracota pottery and collosal stone heads showing Negro/Africoid features. The other evidence includes various African skeletons found at sites created by the Olmecs and remains of the Manding alphabet found on monuments at Monte Alban in Mexico. Furthermore, it is now believed that the story of Kukulkan was actually the story of Meci, who was Black Africa from the Manding regions of West Africa rather than a 'white' God (Quetzalcoatl) as was wrongly translated by the Spaniards.(See, "A History of the African-Olmecs," pub. by AuthorHouse )

Since a significant proportion of African Americans are of the Manding groups of West Africa, it is only proper and important that it be known that West Africans from the Manding people arrived in the Americas and established culture from Mexico to the Southern US and Caribbean over 3000 years ago.

MEXICO or MECI as in King Meci and CO meaning land..the land of meci
moor83

United States

#15809 Nov 26, 2011
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong. If Eurocentrism is racist, then so is Afrocentrism.
What is needed is OBJECTIVE thinking based on evidence and logic.
Wishful thinking that everyone was black, backing it up using marginal sources and mythology, doesn't qualify.
That's why I call it Afronazism... it is a belief system based on theories of racist supremacy whose goal is not knowledge, but to create unsubstantiated claims of superiority and primacy where those are not based on reality.
imma go ancient egypt on you..to prove it was not only black africans but ancient black africans in america

http://books.google.com/books...

why does it take egyptians 17 months to reach bekhten??????

because bekhten is really in mexico not africa or the middle east LOL

On the day of my arrival at Tanis at the palace of Nesubenebded and Tentamon, I gave to them the writings of Amon-Re, king of the gods, which they caused to be read in their presence; and they said: "I will do it. I will do it acconring to that which Amon-Rey, king of our gods, our lord, saith." I abode until the fourth month of the third season, being in Tanis.

Nesubenebded and Tentamon sent me with the ship-captain, Mengebet, and I descended into the great Syrian sea, in the fourth month of the third season, on the first day. I arrived at Dor, a city of Thekel

now called Mira-Dor in Tical http://www.google.com/search...

the egyptian god tehuti you end up with teoti-huacan

http://www.planetware.com/i/photo/teotihuacan...

more coincidences huh sinny juevos..
moor83

United States

#15810 Nov 26, 2011
NearFuture wrote:
<quoted text>
So you don't challenge his information with yours, you just write it off as afro-centric (which isn't really an insult) bullshiz and tell him to shove it? You sound like an immature child that covers his ears when he heres something he doesn't like. Don't cop out like a bitch.
thats all he ever will do...he is a fraud

“DANGER!!”

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#15811 Nov 26, 2011
NearFuture wrote:
<quoted text>
So you don't challenge his information with yours, you just write it off as afro-centric (which isn't really an insult) bullshiz and tell him to shove it? You sound like an immature child that covers his ears when he heres something he doesn't like. Don't cop out like a bitch.
HA!

REALLY!?

Just TRY to go toe-to-toe with me, CØCK SÚCKER, and I'll snap the "immature child" off of YOU and shove it up your áss.

“DANGER!!”

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#15812 Nov 26, 2011
moor83 wrote:
<quoted text>thats all he ever will do...he is a fraud
REALLY!??

When was the last time you EVER got anything past me, SHÍT FØR BRÁINS.

That's awfully BIG talk for an intellectual failure, like YOU, to be spoutin'.

What can you bring to this thread, that you can cogently prove, besides your name, stank, and double digit I.Q. number.

You know no one's gonna believe YOU have an I.Q. above 80, don't you!?

I'm guessing, though, that a score of 80 would be enough to impress the shít out of the rest of your buddies.

“DANGER!!”

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#15813 Nov 26, 2011
moor83 wrote:
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LOOK AT THE DATES
According to oral tradition, Abubakari gathered shipbuilders and watermen from all over his empire. He is said to have had different boat designs built so that if one failed, another might succeed. Al-Umari recorded the story Mansa Musa told in Egypt in 1324:
The monarch who preceded me would not believe that it was impossible to discover the limits of the neighboring sea. He wished to know. He persisted in his plan. He caused the equipping of two hundred ships and filled them with men, and of each such number that were filled with gold, water, and food for two years. He said to the commanders: Do not return until you have reached the end of the ocean, or when you have exhausted your food and water.
According to al-Umari, only one ship returned. Its captain reported to Abubakari that he had watched as the other ships sailed on, entered a broad current in the midst of the ocean, and disappeared. Instead of following them, he turned around and returned home.
Abubakari then decided to build a fleet of two thousand boats and to command it himself. He conferred power on Musa, specifying that if he did not return after a reasonable amount of time, Musa should inherit the throne. In 1311 Abubakari set out with his fleet down the Senegal River and headed west in the Atlantic. He never returned to Mali, and his brother became Mansa Musa in 1312.
simutaneously
monteczuma saying his people come from where the sun rises
We have known for a long time, from the chronicles of our forefathers, that neither I, nor those who ltonte inhabit this country, are descendants from the aborigines of it,' but from strangers who Discourse came to it from very distant parts; and we t0 *** also hold, that our race was* brought to these parts by a lord, whose vassals they all were, and who returned to his native country. After a long time he came back, but it was so long, that those who remained here were married with the native women of the country, and had many descendants, and had built towns where they were living; when, therefore, he wished to take them away with him, they would not go, nor still less receive him as their ruler, so he departed.2 And we have always held that those who descended from him would
'JSee Appendix ILL at close of Letter 'See Appendix IV. at close of Letter. come to subjugate this country and us, as his vassals; and according to the direction from which you say you come, which is where the sun rises,
interesting...they see a new bird in americas and they heard this
http://books.google.com/books...
what is a black baby doing here...
Take that 'CLAP TRAP' somewhere else, because you're not gonna get an audience with me.

Find the actual archeo-anthropological study will legitimately and cogently support your laughably absurd claims, or just shove it up your áss.

I am KEEN to learn the truth, no matter WHAT it may actually be, but that's precisely WHY I don't pay YOU any mind.
moor83

United States

#15814 Nov 26, 2011
Curious Me wrote:
<quoted text>
REALLY!??
When was the last time you EVER got anything past me, SHÍT FØR BRÁINS.
That's awfully BIG talk for an intellectual failure, like YOU, to be spoutin'.
What can you bring to this thread, that you can cogently prove, besides your name, stank, and double digit I.Q. number.
You know no one's gonna believe YOU have an I.Q. above 80, don't you!?
I'm guessing, though, that a score of 80 would be enough to impress the shít out of the rest of your buddies.
Bi-curious me... try posting substantial tangible things. the only thing bright i'll give you is that you found a way to post curse words without getting banned. i don't know who u know or who u blow to get away wit this but i actually had topix delete my threads because nobody on topix or ur troll patrol crew can refute anything i post. you all are so pathetic topix has to help you stop the information im posting.
Anonymous

Powder Springs, GA

#15815 Nov 26, 2011
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Wrong. If Eurocentrism is racist, then so is Afrocentrism.
What is needed is OBJECTIVE thinking based on evidence and logic.
Wishful thinking that everyone was black, backing it up using marginal sources and mythology, doesn't qualify.
That's why I call it Afronazism... it is a belief system based on theories of racist supremacy whose goal is not knowledge, but to create unsubstantiated claims of superiority and primacy where those are not based on reality.
Nobody said everyone is black. Even with evidence and logic you still throw around the bogus term to discredit it.

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