The Spartans: Were They Truly European?

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Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#352 Mar 11, 2013
TruthHurtsOnlyLiars wrote:
No Greek was "black" as a boy. Stop this silly nonsense.
'Black' Americans need to study and proclaim ancient West African history. Stop being jealous of Greek, Olmec, Maya, Roman, Persian, Hebrew, or anyone elses history and just claim yours (West Africa).
You show so much insecurity in your ancestors' history by trying to follow these jealous freak Afrocentric nutjobs twisting history because they're not very proud of theirs.
This is like someone who hates their face so they create a mask and put it on 24/7, then try to look like someone else because they don't like their original appearance.
Xerxes' army did include Ethiopians during the invasion of Greece from 480--479B.C. As occupying armies often take advantage of thw women of the occupied terrority--regardless of the ethnicity of the occupiers--it's possible that some Greek women were impregnated by Ethiopians as well as any others who were part of Xerxes vast army.
But that's a far cry from claiming that the Greeks were Black. And the Persians didn't occupy southern Greece (where Sparta was) before their defeat at Plataea.
trollslayer

Midlothian, IL

#354 Mar 11, 2013
TruthHurtsOnlyLiars wrote:
No Greek was "black" as a boy. Stop this silly nonsense.
'Black' Americans need to study and proclaim ancient West African history. Stop being jealous of Greek, Olmec, Maya, Roman, Persian, Hebrew, or anyone elses history and just claim yours (West Africa).
You show so much insecurity in your ancestors' history by trying to follow these jealous freak Afrocentric nutjobs twisting history because they're not very proud of theirs.
This is like someone who hates their face so they create a mask and put it on 24/7, then try to look like someone else because they don't like their original appearance.
wtfru.....where do YOU get off telling Blacks what, where, who and how they should embrace Africa. You need to mind ur own dam business.

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#356 Mar 11, 2013
No. The Spartans were black just like everyone else you sicko Afrocentrist believe were achievers or warriors because you're so full of self-delusions and have low self-esteem that you need to lie about which people were/are black in order to feel good. Lying about history and race is your drug.

Since: May 10

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#357 Mar 11, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
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But... the word "television" is Greek and Latin, so obviously they were watching The Flintstones in ancient Athens.
But it is strange... I'm feeling a lot of angst here yet I'm not in Germany. How is this possible?
But I may be able to resolve all this if I do some research, so I'm reading a stack of comicbooks here, which I'm sure will reveal the truth of the matter....
As long as they are DC comics.

:)
antlershead

Howell, MI

#358 Mar 11, 2013
there was never enough European negros to test out the theory that Europeanoized Negro hybrids are going to sit around all day and build mudhuts..

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#359 Mar 11, 2013
Daryll wrote:
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Hey she-devil them white folk hat sex with animals! It's all over their myths and cultures, perv!
In the West, the most explicit records of sex involving humans and animals activity are associated with reports of the murderous sadism, torture and rape based upon ancient Greek and Roman beliefs. Masters believes beasts were specially trained to copulate with women: if the girls or women were unwilling then the animal would attempt rape. A surprising range of creatures was used for such purposes, and taught how to copulate vaginally or anally. Representations of scenes from the sexual lives of the gods, such as the ancient Greek PasiphaĆ« and the Bull, Europa and Zeus the Bull, were highlyĀ popular."
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
http://www.soldiers-of-misfortune.com/history...
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/0...
Strawman since I never denied that such practices existed. Neither did I ever claim that Spartans were black. You need reading comrehension lessons. You also need to stop insulting and making up your own mythology Nancy.
trollslayer

Midlothian, IL

#363 Mar 11, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
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Here you go yet again with the ideologically-driven approach to historical matters... you are a RACIST! You insist on seeing racist interpretations of EVERYTHING, ALWAYS everywhere was black, we don't even need to know where it was.
__________ was black, despite the evidence, all of which was fabricated by lying pink Eurocentric pseudo-scientists, and then the whites came in later as exploiters, destroyers, droolers, and perverts.
This is true for anywhere on earth.
1) YOU need to back off calling PPL. racist....since you have been the only poster I've EVER seen have a special thread devoted to YOU being a racist...ok. 2) Blacks have a RIGHT to study ANY aspect of African pre-historic or ancient history they want....where ever it is.

Heck, you got 'effing whites calling themselves "Egyptologists" yet I don't see the OUTCRY for them to not focus on Africa. Tons of whites PPL. write books on African history while putting THEIR spin on the books, yet NO OUTCRY for them to focus on white culture only.
trollslayer

Midlothian, IL

#364 Mar 11, 2013
dragonpat wrote:
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barros you are "truthhurtsonlyliars. "
I believe it's him wearing yet another "mask"

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#365 Mar 12, 2013
TruthHurtsOnlyLiars wrote:
No Greek was "black" as a boy. Stop this silly nonsense.
'Black' Americans need to study and proclaim ancient West African history. Stop being jealous of Greek, Olmec, Maya, Roman, Persian, Hebrew, or anyone elses history and just claim yours (West Africa).
You show so much insecurity in your ancestors' history by trying to follow these jealous freak Afrocentric nutjobs twisting history because they're not very proud of theirs.
This is like someone who hates their face so they create a mask and put it on 24/7, then try to look like someone else because they don't like their original appearance.
You know, I always find it amusing when someone like this makes a critique on afrocentric bullsh*t and that afrocentrists go berserk.

What exactly is offensive about anything he's said?

He's not even saying anything demeaning or abusive about West African history; just to stop claiming non-Black/African history; and these fools wanna cry and b8tch about him saying that.

It's as though they really do have a problem with claiming ONLY West African history.

Besides that, I completely agree with your sentiments, Sir.
trollslayer

Midlothian, IL

#366 Mar 12, 2013
dragonpat wrote:
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barros you are "truthhurtsonlyliars. "
http://www.google.com/url...
TruthHurtsOnlyLi ars

United States

#367 Mar 12, 2013
dragonpat wrote:
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barros you are "truthhurtsonlyliars. "
No. You are 100% INcorrect on that! But you're used to this 'incorrectism,' so no surprise. ;-)

Barros and I disagree on a few things still, like abortion (I want it all outlawed; I don't view it as ANYones right to slaughter a baby in ANY stage of its life - I don't trust any medical industry with their definitions of "fetus" or anything); I believe capitalism is okay, it's the criminals abusing the power within billion dollar corporations and the criminals within the government secretly working together to screw us that's the TRUE problem, on top of WE The People not standing up and protesting to change things, etc.

I don't want any violence against racists; just keep their hands to themselves and we'll verbally duel all day and we can hopefully educate them or the audience watching... even if they don't show a sign of changing (yet).

However, we do agree on one thing so far: we don't like racist,'history-thieves' trying to steal someone elses history and/or historical culture.

I'd soon laugh at some silly Eurocentric nutcase if he ever dared try to claim his ancestors were the original Zulus and simply got overrun by "the blacks" somehow, so they are not there anymore. I come against these Eurocentrics when they try to claim ancient Native American history.
Phoenix

Houston, TX

#372 Mar 12, 2013
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>YOu're so obsessed with the homosexual issue that I'm beginning to suspect that you may even be closet queen yourself.
Most of us straight folk don't obsess over these matters. Why should I give a shyt who the Spartans screwed? Why should YOU?
The original issue was whether they were EUROPEAN, or perhaps even Black.
Spartans weren't black.
Daryll

Springfield, NJ

#373 Mar 12, 2013
Savant wrote:
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YOu're so obsessed with the homosexual issue that I'm beginning to suspect that you may even be closet queen yourself.
Most of us straight folk don't obsess over these matters. Why should I give a shyt who the Spartans screwed? Why should YOU?
The original issue was whether they were EUROPEAN, or perhaps even Black.
Uncle Tom reject, I already showed they were WHiTE based on the fact that they were CHILD MOLESTERS! No black societies accepted sex with children as being OK to be part of who they were. That s hit was all embedded in white folks identity and if you claim otherwise then you are a big fat Uncle Tom Liar! Stop making excuses for them Spartan Child Rapests they were white sick perverts!
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#374 Mar 12, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
Im not here to say Spartan are black. They are basque, or anatolian typepeople until some better evidence comd up thats what imma roll with. But I do come at yoy about them being tanned whites. I dont think thats it either. Whites would die if they ever got that dark. If that was true Eskimos woud be lighter then the Japs and vice versa. North Africans should be darker by now. EVERTHING DARK IS NOT NEGRO,AS WELL AS ANYBODY WITH A NARROW NOSE AND STRAIGHT HAIR ARE NOT CAUCASOID.<quoted text>
What are you talking about? White people have lived in Southern Europe with no problem since prehistoric, ancient and modern times. Were do you think Southern Europe is, in the Sahara Desert? All these people you mentioned were and still are white. Basque are Iberians they were similar to modern Iberians today, Anatolians are Anatolians they were similar to modern Anatolians. Spartans were Greek, they were similar to modern Greeks today. NONE of these people were ever as 'dark' as you are trying to make them out to be. Their skin pigmentations ranged in similar fashion as it does today through out Europe, from light to olive complexion. They tan in the summer loose it during the winter and get light skinned then tan again in the summer. Simple.


So yes Southern Euros were and still are what one would identify racially as white. For the record, Southern Europe's climate, as seen in that clip I posted, ranges from tempered Springs, to hot Summers to BITTER COLD WINTERS. Yes it SNOWS in Southern Europe, that movie scene showing snow in Sparta, its true. Trust me, you don't want to bring your bathing suit during their Winter Seasons.
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I bet many don't even know Southern Europe has some amazing ski resorts.
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#375 Mar 12, 2013
Phoenix wrote:
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Spartans weren't black.
Of course they weren't black. Only a very delusional person would say they were. Spartans were white, they were similar to other Greeks and Europeans especially those from the Balkan regions.
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#376 Mar 12, 2013
Daryll wrote:
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Uncle Tom reject, I already showed they were WHiTE based on the fact that they were CHILD MOLESTERS! No black societies accepted sex with children as being OK to be part of who they were. That s hit was all embedded in white folks identity and if you claim otherwise then you are a big fat Uncle Tom Liar! Stop making excuses for them Spartan Child Rapests they were white sick perverts!
You obviously have some serious issues, my advice is to seek help.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Level 8

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#377 Mar 12, 2013
Phoenix wrote:
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Spartans weren't black.
I know that. And once that was established---why did it need to be established?---that should have been the end of the conservation.
Darryl's argument seems to be that the Greeks were not Black because homosexuality was socially acceptable there. What has that to do with anything?

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Level 8

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#378 Mar 12, 2013
Daryll wrote:
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Uncle Tom reject, I already showed they were WHiTE based on the fact that they were CHILD MOLESTERS! No black societies accepted sex with children as being OK to be part of who they were. That s hit was all embedded in white folks identity and if you claim otherwise then you are a big fat Uncle Tom Liar! Stop making excuses for them Spartan Child Rapests they were white sick perverts!
I suggest that you seek professonal counseling. You can find gays anywhere, moron. And the fact that homosexual relations were accepted in Greece would not itself prove whether they were white, black, pink or purple.
Daryll

Springfield, NJ

#379 Mar 12, 2013
Savant wrote:
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I know that. And once that was established---why did it need to be established?---that should have been the end of the conservation.
Darryl's argument seems to be that the Greeks were not Black because homosexuality was socially acceptable there. What has that to do with anything?
Hey dickwad, they were into CHILD MOLESTATION! You keep bringing up homosexuality, another act not accepted by black societies, but are mum as a donkeys ass to the fact that they were RAPING CHILDREN and BIG in Eugenics. Them acts are embedded into white people's societies like them GayGreeks. Not black people!
Phoenix

Houston, TX

#380 Mar 12, 2013
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>I know that. And once that was established---why did it need to be established?---that should have been the end of the conservation.
Darryl's argument seems to be that the Greeks were not Black because homosexuality was socially acceptable there. What has that to do with anything?
Ask Darryl.

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