Have Black Men Become Weak?

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“May Allah Guide Mankind”

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Jihad An-Nafs

#1 Oct 12, 2012
Should blacks police their own neighborhoods? Obviously Law Enforcement is not able to protect black citizens and their presence usually exacerbates/compounds the problems.
And quite frankly, what can we expect from a country where, in a black neighborhood, an illegal firearm can be bought within a few minutes? Now, I know that we'd run into serious legal trouble because vigilante justice, in the eyes of the law, is just as criminally punishable as the senseless criminal acts perpetrated by the lawless amongst us. Pretty much, all we can do is organize neighborhood watch programs and pray that blacks cooperate with Law Enforcement.

However, due to the deep-seated distrust many blacks have of their local Police Departments as well as the semantic corruption of the "don't snitch" philosophy, the killers, rapists, drug dealers, pimps, etc escape human justice and are free to continue terrorizing the law-abiding amongst us.

For some reason, blacks who live in nice areas believe that they're not affected by the near apolcalyptic social conditions that characterize most "hoods". They are somehow shielded from the horrific and nightmarish levels of violence in black areas.
Well we're not and we all have at least one family member that was viciously gunned down by another AA.

Also, what kind of men have we become? Men who are not even capable of providing safe living conditions for their families? We let little 16-year olds roam the streets heavily armed while we run home with our tail between our legs.

At any rate, we have to come to the realization that we can't count on local Law Enforcement, the federal government, the state nor this hypocritical nation in general. We can only count on each other.

I say there has to be a civil war within black America. Prevention efforts made by so-called community leaders have proven futile.

The proliferation of black churches dead smack in the middle of the hood have shown themselves powerless in terms of quelling the barbaric and senseless destruction of innocent black lives. I don't have a solution but I understand that the current strategy is not a winning one.

There is no Messiah coming, there is no organized black leadership today, which means that we can all become potential leaders and play a decisive role in the much needed revival of black America, which is beginning to self-destruct due to what many black intellectuals have called the "silent genocide"

How can we improve black love relationships if we're not able to protect our women?

The prophet Mu7ammad sallallahou 3alayhi wa salam said "Whoever of you sees something wrong should change it with his hand; if he cannot, then with his tongue; if he cannot, then with his heart, and that is the weakest form of belief.'"

Many of us can't even do it with our hearts because we have a degree, are climbing the ladder of corporate America and "those problems don't concern us"

Back to the civil war, in every black neighborhood, therehas to be armed black coalitions who will defend with their lives th honor, integrity and dignity of those upon whom the worthless scum anthugs prey.

I know that some of you are going to be critical of such a drastic solution but sometimes it's necessary to fight fire wth fire.
If we don't want to cooperate with police, then we have to conduct our own steak outs and literally burn down the drug houses in our communities. We have to impose a curfew, midnight woul be pefect.

anyone out past midnight should be thoroughly questioned, lightly beaten and promptly sent home. There shouldn't be any negroes standing on the corner slanging rocks. All te liquor stores should be burned down.

F.ck the Indians and Arabs, they don't live in the hood and shouldn't be permitted to sell alcohol to our children. right now as we speak, some innocent black kid with unimaginable potential has just been shot.

Which begs the following question: have we become weak and defeatist? Or are there still some soldiers?
Mentalist

Columbia, MD

#2 Oct 12, 2012
Nothing is stopping you from patroling your own block. Go on patrol and let us know how it goes.
we are getting tired of the arm chair revolutionist. Later.

“May Allah Guide Mankind”

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Jihad An-Nafs

#4 Oct 12, 2012
Mentalist wrote:
Nothing is stopping you from patroling your own block. Go on patrol and let us know how it goes.
we are getting tired of the arm chair revolutionist. Later.
I'm not a revoluionist and this is not something that can be done alone. I'm not going to hop in my car and start driving through Crenshaw lol.

But I wouldn't mind being part of an armed black coalition. change and sacrifice go hand in hand. We talk about change but are not willing to make sacrifices for it.

An arm chair revolutionist would be someone who is all talk but no action and doesn't take action when the opportnity presents itself.

I'm simply throwing ideas out there, perhaps other AA men have better solutions, i'm all ears
Mentalist

Columbia, MD

#5 Oct 12, 2012
we have heard all of this before. All this amounts to is yet another person bashing black men. at some point. you become deaf to it.
If you aren't personally going to do something about it. Then what's the point of talking about it again and again.

“May Allah Guide Mankind”

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Jihad An-Nafs

#6 Oct 12, 2012
Mentalist wrote:
we have heard all of this before. All this amounts to is yet another person bashing black men. at some point. you become deaf to it.
If you aren't personally going to do something about it. Then what's the point of talking about it again and again.
LOL at least it's a fellow AA man doing the bashing. I am self-critical and highly critical of the male members within my own family who have adopted a defeatist attitude.

We have to stop being so emotional all the time, I mean, I don't give a flying f.ck about your emotions. But I do care about all the blacks that have been shot dead today and victimized.

What do you mean "again and again", you know damn well that no one is going to comment on this thread, simply because there are more serious issues plaguing AAs such as light skin vs. dark skin, white women, penis size, Halle Berry's next romantic pursuit and God knows what else lol

If you don't wan to talk about it, get the f.ck off the thread

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#8 Oct 12, 2012
Wow.You took the words out of mt fingertip and I agree 100%.First step no kids before marriage....Im waiting for step two lol.

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#9 Oct 12, 2012
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king george

Scranton, PA

#10 Oct 12, 2012
I actually agree with OP. A lot of blacks like him are rising.

You can start by finding some other blacks like yourselves and help your brothers in Africa.

Why? Because you will never be seen as productive, or well liked people here. You will have to start from scratch.

Africa is the richest continent in terms of natural resources. With about 50 well Westernized, educated blacks Africa could be turned around. I would, if I was black start somewhere in East Africa.

Good luck.
Klaus666

Toronto, Canada

#11 Oct 13, 2012
Heboons are weak and cowardly, have always been so! Just as they went meekly into slavery, they will go meekly into FEMA deathcamps. As it was, so shall it be.

“May Allah Guide Mankind”

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Jihad An-Nafs

#12 Oct 13, 2012
BlkSelenaGomez wrote:
Wow.You took the words out of mt fingertip and I agree 100%.First step no kids before marriage....Im waiting for step two lol.
I agree love flower, no kids before marriage
the boundaries of space

Atlanta, GA

#13 Oct 13, 2012
even leaders and members of black nationalist organizations such as the Black Panthers and the NOI regularly accept, though are very critical and disappointed of the ever-increasing softness of today's American black male. such groups would like for the textbook black to perform his "duties" without the dependence of equalizers.

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los angeles

#15 Oct 13, 2012
How does it concern those that are smart enough to avoid such neighborhoods? Where I am, the normal blacks move out and atleast live near the Mexicans, or more diverse neibhorhoods.
Sadbuttrue

Chantilly, VA

#20 Oct 13, 2012
KemiSeba wrote:
Should blacks police their own neighborhoods? Obviously Law Enforcement is not able to protect black citizens and their presence usually exacerbates/compounds the problems.
And quite frankly, what can we expect from a country where, in a black neighborhood, an illegal firearm can be bought within a few minutes? Now, I know that we'd run into serious legal trouble beca children. right now as we speak, some innocent black kid with unimaginable potential has just been shot.
Which begs the following question: have we become weak and defeatist? Or are there still some soldiers?
maceo

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ALL YOU DO IS WHINE LIKE AN INFANTILE BABY BOY!

YOU INSANE RELCUSE YOU NEED A MENTAL HEALTH SPECIALIST!

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#21 Oct 13, 2012
I agree Kemiseba'' what state and city do you reside?

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#23 Oct 13, 2012
ohReally __-__-__-_ wrote:
<quoted text>No.
They haven't "become" weak,
They were ALWAYS weak.
Sonny-Boy, you can't even make it to the outhouse without help. Your bowels are just as weak as your brain.

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#24 Oct 13, 2012
ohReally __-__-__-_ wrote:
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Then you must wish to be ohReally.
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Jethro Need a Shoe shine

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#25 Oct 13, 2012
LOL....more chod hypocrisy...
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With another mans name as YOUR screen name, you have nerve to call someone else an idiot....enough said.
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“Africa”

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#28 Oct 13, 2012
KemiSeba wrote:
I say there has to be a civil war within black America. Prevention efforts made by so-called community leaders have proven futile.


I think there are much more viable alternatives to solve whatever you think your problems are. Civil war will only result in your death or imprisonment. You better think harder about this.
KemiSeba wrote:
The proliferation of black churches dead smack in the middle of the hood have shown themselves powerless in terms of quelling the barbaric and senseless destruction of innocent black lives. I don't have a solution but I understand that the current strategy is not a winning one.


It's not working because there is no current "strategy". How can a plan work if there isn't one?
KemiSeba wrote:
There is no Messiah coming, there is no organized black leadership today, which means that we can all become potential leaders and play a decisive role in the much needed revival of black America, which is beginning to self-destruct due to what many black intellectuals have called the "silent genocide"
How can we improve black love relationships if we're not able to protect our women?
Being able to protect Black women isn't going to improve relationships. The relationships are tainted because Black Americans have no viable culture that injects and nurtures the ideal kinds of values into mainstream society. We don't like each other because we were never raised with the expectation that we are supposed to be able to offer something to people. That we're supposed to look to each other for support, that we're supposed to actually have a PERSONALITY.

Viable culture is what needs protection; not Black women.

KemiSeba wrote:
Back to the civil war, in every black neighborhood, therehas to be armed black coalitions who will defend with their lives th honor, integrity and dignity of those upon whom the worthless scum anthugs prey.


Oh! You were talking about a civil war with the debauch cretins. At first, I thought you were talking about a civil war with white people.

In any event, I still think a civil war is unnecessary. You're never gonna get rid of those dogs by shootin' at 'em. Remember, they're roaches.

Listen, if you want to have a protected, viable culture, then you need to do what the Amish did when they came over here. You need to do what they did in Lancaster Country. The Amish were believers in self sufficiency and dedicated their lives to farming. The Amish had the choice of going into labor force, and assimilating with the mainstream culture, but this would only serve to taint their own cherished Amish cultural values. They didn't want that for themselves or their children, so they preserved their culture by remaining farmers and providing for themselves. When their population started to get bigger, instead of moving or joining the mainstream society, they developed micro-enterprises which helped them not only remain self sufficient, but also allowed them to stay close to home with their children and provide jobs for their families.

Now imagine if AA's did something like this, where they developed a distinct Black society that provided most of everything that society needed and insulated itself from mainstream society. You would have control of the the culture, your own education, because the Amish built their own schools so as to make sure their children were learning Amish values. You would have your own everything and essentially be society within a society within a society.
KemiSeba wrote:
F.ck the Indians and Arabs,
Which begs the following question: have we become weak and defeatist? Or are there still some soldiers?
Yes, we are weak and our so called culture is no longer viable. You're not going to prevent the Arabs or anybody from selling anything to Blacks. AA culture as it stands, is largely useless.

“Africa”

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Oakland

#29 Oct 13, 2012
king george wrote:
I actually agree with OP. A lot of blacks like him are rising. You can start by finding some other blacks like yourselves and help your brothers in Africa. Why? Because you will never be seen as productive, or well liked people here. You will have to start from scratch. Africa is the richest continent in terms of natural resources. With about 50 well Westernized, educated blacks Africa could be turned around. I would, if I was black start somewhere in East Africa. Good luck.
I agree with the first part about helping Africa. However, I disagree about the whole "Westernized" education. Westernized is just a euphemism for Europeanized or Whitenized.

The Americo Liberians went over to Africa with their "westernized" education, saw the natives as inferior, and ended up playing an oppressive and exclusionary role in Liberia's history. That kind of non-sense will not be tolerated. Africa should not be Westernized or Europeanized.

The people that go over to Africa should have an AFRICANIZED education that comes with learning and identifying with the history, the culture, and the social climate and needs of Africa and Africans.
king george

Scranton, PA

#30 Oct 13, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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I agree with the first part about helping Africa. However, I disagree about the whole "Westernized" education. Westernized is just a euphemism for Europeanized or Whitenized.
The Americo Liberians went over to Africa with their "westernized" education, saw the natives as inferior, and ended up playing an oppressive and exclusionary role in Liberia's history. That kind of non-sense will not be tolerated. Africa should not be Westernized or Europeanized.
The people that go over to Africa should have an AFRICANIZED education that comes with learning and identifying with the history, the culture, and the social climate and needs of Africa and Africans.
The reason I said Westernized is because an Africanized education is weak, fake and superstitious. You can go over there with a Westernized education and not be oppressive to the other blacks. I was suggesting Africa, blacks will never be seen as equals here. Africa does need to be Westernized, it can't keep going on in this stone age mentality that the Africans have. The Japanese rebuilt Japan after NUCLEAR BOMBS, EARTHQUAKES, etc. and Africans can't even rebuild after a small little earthquake or if something broke.

Asian countries are well Westernized and they aren't oppressive toward the Asians.

After all, Asians are currently colonizing Africa, which ever way you want to put it.

Oh, there was a recent survey that 60% of Jamaicans say they would be better off with British colonization. I can't even imagine if they done a survey in Zimbabwe...

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