Black Conservatives Speak out on Illegal Immigration

There are 20 comments on the Jun 5, 2013, Breitbart.com story titled Black Conservatives Speak out on Illegal Immigration. In it, Breitbart.com reports that:

The people pushing Comprehensive Immigration Reform don't want you to hear a diversity of voices on the topic, hoping instead to crush debate as they ram their legislation through Congress.

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#1509 Jun 26, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>And of course targeting programs that assist the disabled, poor, mentally ill, struggling families the middle class, the homeless and the elderly helps how?
That's exactly what your GOP party is doing!
I actually think that Republiscum ENJOY suffering... the suffering of OTHERS, of course...

It gives them the chance to feel superior. Ha ha you're suffering and I'm not, because you're a loser.

That's all they know.

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#1510 Jun 26, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>Asian family lives across the street and we're quite close. I also work with quite a few. Not a problem with me learning more about their culture. I have always enjoyed diversity and interacting with other cultures and people.
Bingo! People are interesting! Culture is interesting!

Amazing that so many are actually AFRAID of it! In the 1800's people whined that if Italians immigrated we'd all be eating garlic. Them and the Irish would cause a Catholic takeover. The Germans would make us eat sauerkraut, I suppose. The Jews... well, Jews...

And of course white Yanks have maintained an elaborate fiction woven of fear and ignorance around black Yanks who've been here alongside them since the beginning... amazing. Generation after generation, and white racists still quivering with fear.

And now Mexicans. Oh the angst.

I'm with you on this. People are interesting. I've learned valuable things from blacks, Mexicans, Jews, Italians, Irish, Chinese, Nigerians, Liberians, Cambodians... OMG even mainstream whitey Yanks!

How much richer is our life experience for having open minds and not convulsed with bigotry!

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#1511 Jun 26, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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This is pure racism. Yank citizens commit plenty of crimes. All groups do. So if an immigrant commits a crime, suddenly immigrants are evil.
We've seen this argument used against blacks, whites, and nearly everyone else, right here in this Topix Racist Hysteria forum. Thanks for participating in the madness.
It's not racism. Why the fcuk can't you be truthful for once. California for example is infested with gangs from Northen california to San Diego and the Inland Empire. Whereever there is a significant hispanic population you will a lot of gang activity, Surenos, MS13 what have you. These now starting to spread everywhere even in Massachusettes. Many of these gangs are not working with drug cartels and the Mexican mafia. The fact is most of these people are not your average anglo yank but Hispanics from Mexico and Central America, many who came here recently. That's just the facts man. Saying it's racist isn't going to make it go away.

Immigrant gangs1 are considered a unique public safety threat due to their members’ propensity for violence and their involvement in transnational crime. The latest national gang threat assessment noted that Hispanic gang membership has been growing, especially in the Northeast and the South, and that areas with new immigrant populations are especially vulnerable to gang activity. 2 A large share of the immigrant gangsters in the most notorious gangs such as Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), Surenos-13, and 18th Street are illegal aliens. Their illegal status means they are especially vulnerable to law enforcement, and local authorities should take advantage of the immigration tools available in order to disrupt criminal gang activity, remove gang members from American communities, and deter their return. Once explained, these measures find much support, especially in immigrant communities where gang crime is rampant."

"Surenos are a “gang nation,” or an alliance of gangs, that grew out of Southern California and is now the fastest expanding such alliance in the U.S., the federal report stated.

The National Gang Threat Assessment reported Surenos have been allied with the Tijuana drug cartel and the Sinaloa cartel, which for nearly four years has been at war with the Juarez cartel for control of drug routes in the state of Chihuahua.

In recent years in El Paso, there has been hostility between Barrio Azteca and Sureno gangsters that has escalated into stabbings and assaults, investigators have said.

Sheriff officials said there were 68 confirmed Barrio Azteca members and 31 Sureno members last week at the El Paso County Jail Annex. Numbers fluctuate as inmates are released or arrive in jail. Rival gangs are kept separate to avoid trouble."

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#1512 Jun 26, 2013
Among the findings:

The growth of transnational gangs has been a dangerous side effect of our failure to control the U.S.-Mexico border and our tolerance for high levels of illegal immigration.

Transnational immigrant gangs are spreading out across the United States, in suburban and rural areas as well as in established urban street gang environments. We found MS-13 activity in 48 states, Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico.

The aliens arrested under Operation Community Shield collectively represent a significant menace to the public. The vast majority (80 percent) have committed serious crimes in addition to immigration violations, and a large number (40 percent) have violent criminal histories (See Table 3).

ICE gang arrests have occurred nationwide, with the largest numbers made by the offices in San Diego, Atlanta, San Francisco, and Dallas (see Table 1).

Some jurisdictions with serious gang problems had just a few OCS arrests, such as Phoenix, with only 81 arrests, and Houston, with 84 arrests. Los Angeles, the gang capital of the nation, had fewer than 300 arrests. These same jurisdictions also had controversial “sanctuary” or “don’t ask, don’t tell” policies on immigration status in place over the time period studied.

Nearly half, or 3,080, of the aliens arrested over the two-and-a-half-year period studied were affiliated with MS-13 and Surenos-13, two of the most notorious gangs with largely Hispanic immigrant memberships.

Nearly 60 percent of alien gangsters arrested by ICE were Mexican citizens, 17 percent were from El Salvador, and 5 percent were from Honduras.

Immigrant gang members rarely make a living as gangsters. They typically work by day in construction, auto repair, farming, landscaping, and other low-skill occupations where employers are less vigilant checking status, often using false documents.

Immigration law provides powerful investigative authorities not routinely available to local or even other federal law enforcement agencies (LEAs) that can be essential to disrupting gang activity and prosecuting organized gang crime. Many local LEAs, especially in areas with relatively new influxes of immigrant gangs, are not aware of these tools.

The research found no “chilling effect” on the reporting of crime as a result of local law enforcement partnerships with ICE. Instead of spreading this misconception, immigrant community leaders should help reinforce the message that crime victims and witnesses are not targets of immigration law enforcement.

Immigration law provides special measures to encourage cooperation of witnesses and informants, and to protect victims of crime. These incentives are more effective in eliciting cooperation from immigrants than sanctuary or non-cooperation policies.

Programs aimed only at removing incarcerated aliens, while helpful, are not as effective in addressing criminal immigrant gang activity as investigative programs such as Community Shield, or other locally-driven strategies. State and local governments should adopt certain proven laws and policies to help compensate for ICE resource and staff limitations. These can include implementing routine electronic immigration status screening, basic immigration law training, obtaining delegation of authority, and especially applying strong state and local laws to address immigration-related crime problems.

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#1513 Jun 26, 2013
TombStoned wrote:
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I was not taking a slap at the poor or the elderly, I have infinite respect for both.
I was referring to his slap at the U.S. Poverty rate. I realize their are those who go hungry here and it is most often the elderly and the disabled and that could be solved by more outreach to both groups.
It is not a lack of funds or an unwillingness to help either. It is incompetence and the one size fits all of modern government that is the culprit.
Just sayin'....
Deluded bigoted fool.

Poverty is an illusion according to you. And if it exists, it's the government's fault? Of course capitalists have nothing to do with it right, though the RICH have been the cause of poverty for many centuries in many places, but somehow here, I guess it's all the fault of liberals and Obama.

Take a tour of Pine Ridge Rez, or on second thought, don't, they don't need your pathetic ass hanging around, but find out about it. Why that poverty, boy? In that case it IS the govt's fault, but let me guess, you'll blame the victims there too, won't you, jackass?

And of course the 3rd world is poor, according to you, because they're too dark in color, right? LOL!!!

That essentially will be your argument... they're somehow inferior to the whitey Westerners who according to you worked for everything they have, right?

Yet you know nothing of, for example, the economic relationship between France and Chad, UK and Nigeria, etc.

Oh yeah, and USA and Mexico...

Grab onto a few facts before spewing your bull$hit, boy.

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#1514 Jun 26, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
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I just wanted to know if you are from france.
Je suis né en États-Unis. Je ne suis pas français.

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#1515 Jun 26, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>Sis, did you see this video today?:
http://xfinity.comcast.net/video/American-CEO...
It's funny as help. American CEO is tried to rip his Asian workes off and they're holding him captive until he pays them! Of course, he says it's all a misunderstand, lol.
They won't let him eat, bathe, change clothes or get his medicine and they follow him all around and they're all women! So much for them going on there pushing people around, eh? We should try that here. The police won't get involved because they say it's a civil matter, LOL! They know that American is try to be slick.
Anyhoo, he's appealin to the American Embassy for help claiming he needs his meds. No Obamacare over there, sorry, can't help you! lol.
Wouldn't it be great if apathetic Yank workers woke up and started acting like this?

JAM those parasites up! I'm ready for that action.

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#1516 Jun 26, 2013
McAlister73 wrote:
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It's not racism. Why the fcuk can't you be truthful for once. California for example is infested with gangs from Northen california to San Diego and the Inland Empire. Whereever there is a significant hispanic population you will a lot of gang activity, Surenos, MS13 what have you. These now starting to spread everywhere even in Massachusettes. Many of these gangs are not working with drug cartels and the Mexican mafia. The fact is most of these people are not your average anglo yank but Hispanics from Mexico and Central America, many who came here recently. That's just the facts man. Saying it's racist isn't going to make it go away.
Immigrant gangs1 are considered a unique public safety threat due to their members’ propensity for violence and their involvement in transnational crime. The latest national gang threat assessment noted that Hispanic gang membership has been growing, especially in the Northeast and the South, and that areas with new immigrant populations are especially vulnerable to gang activity. 2 A large share of the immigrant gangsters in the most notorious gangs such as Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), Surenos-13, and 18th Street are illegal aliens. Their illegal status means they are especially vulnerable to law enforcement, and local authorities should take advantage of the immigration tools available in order to disrupt criminal gang activity, remove gang members from American communities, and deter their return. Once explained, these measures find much support, especially in immigrant communities where gang crime is rampant."
"Surenos are a “gang nation,” or an alliance of gangs, that grew out of Southern California and is now the fastest expanding such alliance in the U.S., the federal report stated.
The National Gang Threat Assessment reported Surenos have been allied with the Tijuana drug cartel and the Sinaloa cartel, which for nearly four years has been at war with the Juarez cartel for control of drug routes in the state of Chihuahua.
In recent years in El Paso, there has been hostility between Barrio Azteca and Sureno gangsters that has escalated into stabbings and assaults, investigators have said.
Sheriff officials said there were 68 confirmed Barrio Azteca members and 31 Sureno members last week at the El Paso County Jail Annex. Numbers fluctuate as inmates are released or arrive in jail. Rival gangs are kept separate to avoid trouble."
Should read; Many of these gangs ARE working with drug cartels and the Mexican mafia.

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#1517 Jun 26, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, so I am selfish and sensitive to racial issues, but you said, "our first black president?" lol. Yeah, ok! This from someone willing to send in Cain, Palin, or worst, Romney???? Oh, did that have to do with race? Was I able to get past it and make a decision that I didn't want a grinning and shinning buffoon as president or some hick from Canada a step away from the presidency because of McCain's age and her ignorance or worst, a sociopathic, money grubbing member of some nefarious cult and you want us to believe they were better than Obama and race didn't come into play?
PULEEZE! I see a lot clearer and plainer than you do. You dismiss the errors (serious ones) of your party, all the gaffes, insults, greed and division THEY HAVE CAUSED IN THIS NATION! Not Obama, not me, nor the other millions of people disenfranchised in this nation! We have a voice and we have a right to SHARE (now there's a novel idea) in the running of this nation. And in case it slipped your narrow mind, WHITE VOTED FOR OBAMA TOO or he couldn't have won!
Don't tell me I am stuck on race. I know racisim when I see it! I am married to a non-black man, my grands are mixed, my mother was half-white and my son-in-laws are white.
Can you say the same! I don't talk it, I live it, but when things need to be addressed, I will address them honestly!
p.s. I don't need to mastrubate, my needs are well taken care of, thank you very much!
The rightwing neo-feudalists love to accuse us Obama voters of voting for race.

Well, I am one who thinks that the simple fact of having a black President is a good thing. It is a milestone, another barrier broken down, another step on our journey to eliminate racism in this society.

Having said that I still would not vote for Condy Rice, or Herman Cain.

And having said that in 2008 I still supported Hillary in the primary. Then Obama supporters were calling us racist for not supporting Obama! My retort was, oh well y'all must be sexist pigs afraid of a woman President...

Then having lost the primary, we were faced with Obama v. McCain/Palin. I didn't find Obama much less desireable than Hillary, it was just that I knew her better. Obviously I would have voted for any Democrat against McCain/Palin. The one I voted for was black. So I'm voting race, right? Oh but I'm not black.

As for black people “voting race”... I think a lot of black people who voted for Obama would NOT have voted for a black Republican. And if they did vote simply because Obama was black, so what? I think after so long being excluded and abused, black people could reasonably be expected to vote for this Presidency which is such a milestone. I cannot see how to criticize anyone for that.

It's the same with any ethnic group, for me. A Native American, Mexican, Jew, Chinese, whatever... nice to have more “diversity” but I would not vote for any of these if they were rightist Republicans. I'd vote for a blonde blue-eyed white male Democrat over Bobby Jindal or any other non-white sellout Republican.

I for one am not hung up on race. I think it is obvious that the Republicans in here ARE. They're the ones whining about it constantly.

(and isn't it telling that you are attacked not only for "race" but gender as well! How dare you be female!)
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#1518 Jun 26, 2013
ima- Ilis Myka Ashanti wrote:
<quoted text> as a poster wrote sin juevos probably never had parents! can't imagine him being raised BY ANYONE. And if he has just a mother, she probably feels guilty for having given birth to IT...what ever gender IT might have.
lol no parents for him,no manners,no class racist,hates all people but really hates blonde blue eyes calls them hillbillys and rednecks lol

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#1519 Jun 26, 2013
McAlister73 wrote:
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Should read; Many of these gangs ARE working with drug cartels and the Mexican mafia.
Are you in California, Mc?
Brenda besson

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#1520 Jun 26, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Je suis né en États-Unis. Je ne suis pas français.
you do not know the french language you cant spell.i know coz I speak french fluently!!!!!go back back to spanish it suits you!!!!!!racist I have blonde hair and blue eyes lol oh and no you were not born here.listening to you you are from india oryou are arab.just my thoughts

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#1521 Jun 26, 2013
Brenda besson wrote:
<quoted text> lol no parents for him,no manners,no class racist,hates all people but really hates blonde blue eyes calls them hillbillys and rednecks lol
You lying piece of filthy white racist drek.

I do not call people “hillbillies” as that is an ethnic slur, moron.

Nor do I have a problem with white people per se... only with white racist lowlife traitorous scumsucking pigs like you, bitxh.
Brenda besson

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#1522 Jun 26, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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You lying piece of filthy white racist drek.
I do not call people “hillbillies” as that is an ethnic slur, moron.
Nor do I have a problem with white people per se... only with white racist lowlife traitorous scumsucking pigs like you, bitxh.
lol

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#1523 Jun 26, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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You lying piece of filthy white racist drek.
I do not call people “hillbillies” as that is an ethnic slur, moron.
Nor do I have a problem with white people per se... only with white racist lowlife traitorous scumsucking pigs like you, bitxh.
Hug time.....Too bad this poster Brenda is not as talented as Luc. I cannot imagine, based on her poor linguistic skills she is native to this country but, then again, based on my experiences with US schools, she was probably one of those that they passed based on age and not achievement as is so common to the school system in the US. I actually had to help a college football scholarship recipient fill out forms once as he could neither read nor write in English. How he had ever graduated HS was beyond me. He can now read and write as I got him enrolled in a program which rectified the problem. Amazing, to say the least.

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#1524 Jun 26, 2013
Brenda besson wrote:
<quoted text>you do not know the french language you cant spell.i know coz I speak french fluently!!!!!go back back to spanish it suits you!!!!!!racist I have blonde hair and blue eyes lol oh and no you were not born here.listening to you you are from india oryou are arab.just my thoughts
What did I misspell, racist turd?

French is my 3rd language.

The symbol of my avatar is used to represent Hinduism. Now what are the chances I'm a Hindu Arab? LOL!!!

You know nothing about all the diverse peoples you hate, canaille.

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#1525 Jun 26, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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Are you in California, Mc?
No. I'm Texas but I have relatives that I visit there in Riverside. The gang problem is insane. To be fair I must say there are Black gangs there too.

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#1526 Jun 26, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Clearly Obama is working in the service of Silicon Valley interests. They put big money into him and they want their payback.
Obama's endless regulations produced to make that crowd happy have had bad affects on the economy overall. By 1932 the economy was working it's way out of the Great Depression and by the election of 1932 job creation was happening in a big way. Too late for Herbert Hoover, great for FDR. Only problem was FDR's endless meddling stunted the recovery and kept the country in an economic slow down for 10 years. Obama said he wanted to be more like FDR, I'd say he has accomplished just that.
I don't care what China does. It's isn't the US. They've already shown their lack of concern for their people and their health when it comes to profits. They have corporate heads they're fining and putting in jails for producing products that endanger the public health. Allowing them to ship their un-inspected products to the US has caused great harm (like the mercury in the toothpaste sold at dollar stores) There's no oversight and no quality control in some of their businesses and they can cause great harm with their greed.
If China wants to pollute their air (walking around with masks as as it is already because of poor area quality in some areas) let them! That doesn't mean we should go back to that here when there's cleaner sources of energy and that's what we should be looking towards, not going backwards. Yep, I am definitely a progressive.
I think a lot of blacks and other minorities find it endless, tiresome and annoying having to deal with in your face and subtle forms of racism for most of their lives and even more so now that it's reared it's ugly head again due to the election of President Obama. Maybe you're not experiencing it, but that doesn't mean others aren't! If you're tired of it, imagine (if that's possible for you) how we must feel???? Now we have three old white men and one black man who despises himself and other blacks telling us that racism is over and voter laws (laws instituted with the blood and lives of people) are no longer needed??? And they know this how??? They can speak for those still experiencing it and being disenfranchised? Of course they're not partial, lol. I mean they're just right-wing conservatives who stole an election and now want to dismantel all civil rights gains so that they can give the Republican party (minority party) a better chance at stealing elections? We're not fooled, perhaps you are. When you can jump into another person's skin, perhaps you can tell them what they should be tired of, or frustrated by or annoyed. Sorry it's such a bother for people like you. Such a small thing, really (smirk).
If my concerns for the homeless, hungry, families, college students and the elderly are stock cliches from 1967, why are we still dealing with these social problems in 2013????
According to you all, racism has been eradicated, the hungry are being fed, the elderly are being taken care of, college tuition is now affordable, homeless people are being provided shelter and the mentally ill needs are being met. When did this utopia occur? I must have slept through it!

I don't know where your silcone valley complaints are coming from. Never knew they had that much influence since it's heyday has long been over. But whatever....

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#1527 Jun 26, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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What did I misspell, racist turd?
French is my 3rd language.
The symbol of my avatar is used to represent Hinduism. Now what are the chances I'm a Hindu Arab? LOL!!!
You know nothing about all the diverse peoples you hate, canaille.
I have been reading your posts. I believe you are a mixed White and Black with some American Indian from West Virginia who moved out to Cali in the 60's.

Now for my prize...

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#1528 Jun 26, 2013
McAlister73 wrote:
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No. I'm Texas but I have relatives that I visit there in Riverside. The gang problem is insane. To be fair I must say there are Black gangs there too.
I am fully aware of the gang problem here. According to outgoing LA Mayor Villaraigosa, things are getting much better but there are still flare-ups. The problem seems to be one all across the US. Sad that people have to act out like that.

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