Is black unity between africans, afri...

Is black unity between africans, african americans and black caribbeans dead?

Created by anonymous on Jan 21, 2011

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#65 Jan 24, 2011
the blacksmith wrote:
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That's funny. Look, I respect the pride and history Africans have. I also respect the fact that my ancestors were Africans. I also respect individual Africans out there doing positive things. Withh all that being said so, some of you guys lie to yourselves and others A LOT. And a lot of times, I let it go because I don't want to get into an African vs African descendant war but sometimes, some of you guys need a reality check on your ego trip.
Understand that I come from a region that is majority black African slave descendants. We are the people whose ancestors were brought to the Caribbean, stripped of so much of their African cultures, and had to form a creolized culture to survive despite most of us being majority African in our genetic makeup. And you know what ? When I was in the Caribbean talking about one day maybe visiting some African nations to see what they have to offer, several people looked at me and said "For what ? What would Africa have for us ?" One guy even told me "The only thing Africa has to offer us is in the past." And mind you, these were not people who believed in white superiority or had a problem with their heritage and identity. These were guys who did not want to leave their black majority island, they had black wives and promoted black Caribbean culture. These were not self haters.
I realized what they were saying though. You talk about blacks in the West needing black unity more but the truth is, there are blacks in the West who look at Africa as having historical value only (which doesn't mean all that much in our day to day lives). A lot of us don't see a NEED to unite with Africans today. A lot of us are not envious of Africans in any way because we don't see present day Africans as having anything that we need or desperately want.
To me, black unity is good because it MAKES SENSE. See the difference. I don't care about black unity because I need anything from Africans, I care about black unity because it makes sense. People working together makes sense. There is no reason why I should be able to get along with everyone else but then have a problem uniting with people who share similar features that I have because of something as stupid as having a different religion, a different nationality and a different culture. I get along with people of other cultures, religions and nationalities all the time so why not with other blacks ?
You raise a lot of points here and the fact that people of Black descent can't even figure out what "Black Unity" means or what it could mean means that Black people are just plain stupid.To illustrate what Black Unity means think about why the Chinese are infesting Africa in ever-greater numbers and some of them are into marriages of conviniences just to be able to claim African citizenship.
If every Black person were to think about what's in it for a Chinese fellow, then the answer will come to them.
Black people must come together not necessarily in love and marriage but in doing business.Africa has vast(V-A-S-T) resources that can be leveraged to the betterment of everyone.That's what Black Unity should be all about.Africans in the diaspora should bring their skills to Africa and we use them to add value to these vast natural resources and make money.That's it.

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#66 Jan 24, 2011
black fellow wrote:
<quoted text>yeah,our entire race don't need unity.THAT's why we will continue to be manipulated by the whites,will always be in retard and we will keep the name of the earth's dumbest race(ebonic race).WE don't need unity!
I'm a black history enthusiast,(ancient black history,before slave trade)based on some books i've read,disunity is,and always was unequivocally our biggest hindrance.It's what enabled us to be conquered,what perpetuates our misery,and immobilizes our progress today.What's frustrating is that blacks never take measures to not repeat the cycle.The way i see it,we have to unite whether we like it or not,this is a matter of survival,we have the same enemy(white man)that enemy hates us all equally,and implemented a genecidal campaign against blacks all over the globe,we can be wise enough to unite or continue the same cycle generation after generation,it's up to us.
black fellow

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#67 Jan 24, 2011
sassyntrashy wrote:
<quoted text>I do not believe that my people rioted because somebody attacked shitty ethiopia. I need to know when was this because before the age of the internet most BAs were and still are ashamed of africa.
when you find an black african that take the american nationality,you must call him (whatever his african nationality)by the label AFRICAN AMERICAN,just like its AA cousins.IN liberia we called the AA (that came back)americo-liberians(then AMERICAN AFRICANS).A jamaican can be called BLACK AMERICAN(JAMAICA is in central AMERICA)or AFRICAN american if he want it too.THERE ARE ONLY DIFFERENCES in the labels names and the cultures.I could say that there are a few differences in the physicals attributes but here,i will notify it by those that are mixed with others races(whatever if it's the africans,carribeans or AA ones.
black fellow

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#68 Jan 24, 2011
rameses326 wrote:
<quoted text>I'm a black history enthusiast,(ancient black history,before slave trade)based on some books i've read,disunity is,and always was unequivocally our biggest hindrance.It's what enabled us to be conquered,what perpetuates our misery,and immobilizes our progress today.What's frustrating is that blacks never take measures to not repeat the cycle.The way i see it,we have to unite whether we like it or not,this is a matter of survival,we have the same enemy(white man)that enemy hates us all equally,and implemented a genecidal campaign against blacks all over the globe,we can be wise enough to unite or continue the same cycle generation after generation,it's up to us.
i give you a thumb up for this post.cosign 1000%.

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#69 Jan 24, 2011
vuyo1 wrote:
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You raise a lot of points here and the fact that people of Black descent can't even figure out what "Black Unity" means or what it could mean means that Black people are just plain stupid.To illustrate what Black Unity means think about why the Chinese are infesting Africa in ever-greater numbers and some of them are into marriages of conviniences just to be able to claim African citizenship.
If every Black person were to think about what's in it for a Chinese fellow, then the answer will come to them.
Black people must come together not necessarily in love and marriage but in doing business.Africa has vast(V-A-S-T) resources that can be leveraged to the betterment of everyone.That's what Black Unity should be all about.Africans in the diaspora should bring their skills to Africa and we use them to add value to these vast natural resources and make money.That's it.
Okay, you're looking at it from an economic perspective. And yes, that makes sense. With all the resources Africa has, blacks should be eager to invest in it.

What I was talking about was more from a cultural perspective. The people I met felt that from a cultural perspective, all Africa has to offer is the past. There is nothing that African cultures have today that people in the Caribbean need or envy. People in the Caribbean have developed their own creolized culture and many are comfortable with it without feeling that it is lacking something which Africans have. That's more what I meant.

But in terms of investments, yes, blacks should definitely be looking to see what kind of opportunities there are in African countries.
black fellow

Gabon

#70 Jan 24, 2011
rameses326 wrote:
<quoted text>The way i see it,we have to unite whether we like it or not,this is a matter of survival,we have the same enemy(white man)that enemy hates us all equally,and implemented a genecidal campaign against blacks all over the globe,we can be wise enough to unite or continue the same cycle generation after generation,it's up to us.
if you check at the basements of the hutu-tutsi genocide,you will find the whites men.

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#71 Jan 25, 2011
black fellow wrote:
<quoted text>yeah,our entire race don't need unity.THAT's why we will continue to be manipulated by the whites,will always be in retard and we will keep the name of the earth's dumbest race(ebonic race).WE don't need unity!
OH well you cnat force everbody to get along. I say a slong as Black
Americans can unite we can take over the world and we wouldn't need foreign Blacks.

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#72 Jan 25, 2011
Unique2 wrote:
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lol DISASTER LOOMS sometimes makes up things.
I know he is so bitter it's sad.

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#73 Jan 25, 2011
chinyere wrote:
...what africans feel about acting black is different from what AA's feel about acting black...
Yeah, what AAs often feels constitutes blackness equals crap...
You will never hear a russian tell a irish person how to act white or you are their enemy but sorry to say this black communities don't practice this, especially AA's.
Heck, even within the AA community this is true, I touched on this earlier...

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#74 Jan 25, 2011
Unique2 wrote:
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When African-Americans speak of black unity, they mean black American unity. Pan-Africanism among American blacks has never been widely embraced, as evidenced by the fact that the most popular black American leaders have all placed greater emphasis on things domestic.
Even the honorable Elijah Muhammad who was the most promient American black nationalist, suggested that African-Americans seek a seperate nation or territory within the United States rather than Africa.
Great post, and good insight!

Yeah, I always scratch my head when I see an "Afrocentric" AA talking about Africa this and Africa that, like "Are you going there then?", "Ah, no..."

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#75 Jan 25, 2011
the blacksmith wrote:
I saw that video and like I said, there is never going to be a time when every single black person on the planet is loving one another. Human beings in general are not built that way since we will always have people who are closed minded. In that video, you have an AA professor arguing with a fish market vendor. What went through my mind when I saw this video was "Professor, what the hell are you doing arguing with a fish market vendor about your identity. Do you really believe that this vendor has been exposed to nearly half the things you have or had access to the amount of information you had ?" A Professor in Canada would not waste time arguing with a fish market vendor about their identity but it was clear that for some awkward reason, this AA Professor in Ghana wanted acceptance from this vendor simply because the vendor was African. That's dumb. Black unity is not about convincing every Tom, Dick and Harry to love each other...
Unbelievable...
BM

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#76 Jan 25, 2011
vuyo1 wrote:
<quoted text>You raise a lot of points here and the fact that people of Black descent can't even figure out what "Black Unity" means or what it could mean means that Black people are just plain stupid.To illustrate what Black Unity means think about why the Chinese are infesting Africa in ever-greater numbers and some of them are into marriages of conviniences just to be able to claim African citizenship.
If every Black person were to think about what's in it for a Chinese fellow, then the answer will come to them.
Black people must come together not necessarily in love and marriage but in doing business.Africa has vast(V-A-S-T) resources that can be leveraged to the betterment of everyone.That's what Black Unity should be all about.Africans in the diaspora should bring their skills to Africa and we use them to add value to these vast natural resources and make money.That's it.
So in other words, blacks from places like the USA will benefit from "black unity" while Africans wouldnt?

Business is business and does not need to discriminate.

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#77 Jan 25, 2011
Ghana Baby wrote:
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COSIGN 1,000%
BLACK UNITY never existed in the first place, so how can it be dead. The only ones that talk about that are non-african blacks, especially african americans
This is true. I have never heard a Nigerian, Ethiopian, Jamaican, Haitian, or other black groups even so much as utter the term "black unity"...
BM

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#78 Jan 25, 2011
fair_guy wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, what AAs often feels constitutes blackness equals crap...
[QUOTE]You will never hear a russian tell a irish person how to act white or you are their enemy but sorry to say this black communities don't practice this, especially AA's."

Heck, even within the AA community this is true, I touched on this earlier...
Not to mention the people black Americans view as AA are sometimes... Well... Barely African even as far as ancestry is concerned.

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#79 Jan 25, 2011
Jcookie wrote:
Didn't even know this "unity" existed between the three. Look how much is sucks in the US alone, you just have to walk outside in some places and other blacks hate on you.
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#80 Jan 25, 2011
The question is not whether or not unity between the African diaspora is dead, but,

SHOULD THE AFRICAN DIASPORA UNITE?

My answer to that question would YES!

The entire diaspora suffers because of the fact that we are not united as a race on this planet and far too many of us still have that plantation and colonization mentality.

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#81 Jan 25, 2011
fair_guy wrote:
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F***ing ++
Sorry, I don't follow you. Can you explain your response?

“Formerly King_spade”

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#82 Jan 25, 2011
fair_guy wrote:
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Unbelievable...
Unbelievable that an AA professor would spend time arguing with a market vendor ? I agree but some people really want to be accepted by Africans.

Personally, African acceptance is not what I want out of black unity. What I want to see are stable black majority nations who can work together and actually build something more the way I see other nations work together.
chinyere

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#83 Jan 25, 2011
fair_guy wrote:
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Yeah, what AAs often feels constitutes blackness equals crap...
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Heck, even within the AA community this is true, I touched on this earlier...
c/s
this is what I have been saying from the beginning

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#84 Jan 25, 2011
Jcookie wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, I don't follow you. Can you explain your response?
That means "I agree"...

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