BARROSS and JEFF: WERE THE VINCAS GEN...
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pn2cladelover

Netherlands

#24 Feb 7, 2013
JEFF this is the argument.

BAROSS says

"If you're argument will be that therefore Vincan wasn't European, because of the Neolithic admixture, then I will assert that West African civilizations aren't African, due to R admixture"

which is the point of the post
understand
pn2cladelover

Netherlands

#25 Feb 7, 2013
JEFF

did you actually look at the title of the study and the thread i made to see what we are debating???

please do it now
pn2cladelover

Netherlands

#27 Feb 7, 2013
Israel Land of Terrorism wrote:
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Vinca culture & the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture were very unique & far different from cultures of the Near East / Middle East & North Africa.
Which supports a isolated European culture in the developement.
1.who were the people that made it

2.what is their dna
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#30 Feb 7, 2013
pn2cladelover wrote:
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1.who were the people that made it
2.what is their dna
He already told you they were European, and you asserting that they were not based upon their genetics, which is similar to modern Europeans, is exactly why Barros called you out on haplogroup R which you are now are trying to claim as 'African' when it clearly was Asian since it arose in Asia.
pn2cladelover

Netherlands

#31 Feb 7, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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He already told you they were European, and you asserting that they were not based upon their genetics, which is similar to modern Europeans, is exactly why Barros called you out on haplogroup R which you are now are trying to claim as 'African' when it clearly was Asian since it arose in Asia.
stop trolling

still mad are lolol
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#32 Feb 7, 2013
Israel Land of Terrorism wrote:
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Untill DNA studies on the inhabitants of Vinca culture are given then it is just a "Guessing" game.
They've conducted numerious studies on the inhabitants of Vinca and the Balkans in general many showed to carry markers typically found in modern Europeans from those regions today.
pn2cladelover

Netherlands

#34 Feb 7, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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They've conducted numerious studies on the inhabitants of Vinca and the Balkans in general many showed to carry markers typically found in modern Europeans from those regions today.
can you post them please

and you say many, who were the not many what were their dna???
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#36 Feb 7, 2013
pn2cladelover wrote:
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can you post them please
and you say many, who were the not many what were their dna???
Those people were predominatly European with influences from Anatolia the place of migrations and influences mostly into Balkan Europe to begin with.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-201566...
pn2cladelover

Netherlands

#38 Feb 7, 2013
Israel Land of Terrorism wrote:
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Paleolithic Europe had the most Intellectual developement in the world at this time anyways.
Look at all of the ancient inventions in Paleolithic Ukraine including houses, maps, ovens for cooking food,domesticated horses.
http://www.infoukes.com/history/inventions/
Look at Paleolithic Ukraine Kamyana Mohyla with first examples of writing in the world linked to Proto-Cuneiform by experts... Even with the first examples of a Number system in the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Tju4coNCP_UXX&list=UUjfl5 iHCo2MAXkaFOahNGTw&index=3 0
Look at Dolni Vestonice in Paleolithic Czech Republic inventions of ceramics, hats ect.
http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/czechdolnives...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Dolni_V...
the venus figurine looks near exactly like the african one
Ethio

Ashburn, VA

#39 Feb 7, 2013
What do you white cockroaches think about the orang asli (aboriginals) of Southeast asia? Are they black?
pn2cladelover

Netherlands

#41 Feb 7, 2013
umm the pottery shows a rhino and a lion
Barros Serrano

United States

#43 Feb 7, 2013
pn2cladelover wrote:
JEFF this is the argument.
BAROSS says
"If you're argument will be that therefore Vincan wasn't European, because of the Neolithic admixture, then I will assert that West African civilizations aren't African, due to R admixture"
which is the point of the post
understand
And, our case is won, since it would not be reasonable to claim that W Africa is Aryan...

And so, Vinca is European.

How that pains you.
pn2cladelover

Netherlands

#44 Feb 7, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
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And, our case is won, since it would not be reasonable to claim that W Africa is Aryan...
And so, Vinca is European.
How that pains you.
no i clearly posted a link about the neolithic farmers in europe whicjh angered you, now your ta;lking about west africa

your trolling
Barros Serrano

United States

#46 Feb 7, 2013
And then there's Cucuteni-Tripolye, and Cerny, and the Western European Megalithic...

I'd like to see a comparison done of Vincan with Jiroft script, which is Elamite. So far the dates for Vinca are older than for Jiroft, which really is a part of the civilization called Aratta, spoken of by the Sumerians.
Ethio

Ashburn, VA

#48 Feb 7, 2013
What the heck is this vinca crap?
pn2cladelover

Netherlands

#49 Feb 7, 2013
Israel Land of Terrorism wrote:
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I don't know...
It is as if Neolithic farmers immigrated to Europe rather than "Took over"
http://www.nature.com/news/ancient-swedish-fa...
Just look at how the Neolithic farmers kind of "Spread out" as if an immigrant population.
Why is it as if Neolithic farmers seem to have been Immigrants rather than people who took over?
...
.. People immigrated to Ancient Rome in the Ancient Roman empire why exactly???
Perhaps Neolithic farmers were amoungst a greater European empire & immigrated to it?
maybe maybe not

but i wont accept baross mad rambling speculations.
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#51 Feb 7, 2013
Israel Land of Terrorism wrote:
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I don't know...
It is as if Neolithic farmers immigrated to Europe rather than "Took over"
http://www.nature.com/news/ancient-swedish-fa...
Just look at how the Neolithic farmers kind of "Spread out" as if an immigrant population.
Why is it as if Neolithic farmers seem to have been Immigrants rather than people who took over?
...
.. People immigrated to Ancient Rome in the Ancient Roman empire why exactly???
Perhaps Neolithic farmers were amoungst a greater European empire & immigrated to it?
That article just proves what we have been saying all along, these prehistoric Europeans share genetics with modern Europenas: those Neolithic farmers share genetic origins mostly with modern Southern Europeans while Paleolithic hunter-gatherers mostly with Northern Europeans. From the article:

"The farmer is most genetically similar to people living in Cyprus and Sardinia today,” says Pontus Skoglund, an evolutionary geneticist at Uppsala University in Sweden and the lead author of the study, which is published today in Science1.

The hunter-gatherers show the greatest similarity to modern-day Finns, says Skoglund."
pn2cladelover

Netherlands

#52 Feb 7, 2013
Israel Land of Terrorism

try and google these studys

1.Ancient DNA from the First European Farmers in 7500-Year-Old Neolithic Sites

2.The questionable contribution of the Neolithic and the Bronze Age to European craniofacial form (?)

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