Are Romanians Latinos?
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#1 Dec 11, 2012
I understand and can read many of the things they say based on my understanding of Spanish. Their music and the way they sing it is very similar. The way they express emotion is similar. Sure as hell looks like a Latin culture to me.

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#2 Dec 11, 2012
Compared with the other Romance languages, the closest relative of Romanian is Italian; the two languages show a limited degree of asymmetrical mutual intelligibility, especially in their cultivated forms: speakers of Romanian seem to understand Italian more easily than the other way around.[citation needed] Romanian has obvious grammatical and lexical similarities with French, Catalan, Spanish and Portuguese, with a high phonological similarity with Portuguese in particular; however, it is not mutually intelligible with them to any practical extent.

Romanian speakers will usually need some formal study of basic grammar and vocabulary before being able to understand more than individual words and simple sentences. The same is true for speakers of these languages trying to understand Romanian.

Some consider Romanian the closest living language to Latin due to structure. However, other studies have disputed these claims, showing that Romanian has had a greater share of foreign influence than some other Romance languages such as Italian in terms of vocabulary and other aspects.

One such study was done by Italian-American linguist Mario Pei in 1949, which analyzed the evolutionary degree of languages in comparison to their inheritance language (in the case of Romance languages to Latin comparing phonology, inflection, discourse, syntax, vocabulary, and intonation) revealed the following percentages (the higher the percentage, the greater the distance from Latin):[58]

Sardinian: 8%;

Italian: 12%;

Spanish: 20%;

Romanian: 23.5%;

Occitan: 25%;

Portuguese: 31%;

French: 44%.

The lexical similarity of Romanian with Italian has been estimated at 77%, followed by French at 75%, Sardinian 74%, Catalan 73%, Spanish 71%, Portuguese, and Rhaeto-Romance at 72%.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_languag...

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#3 Dec 11, 2012
Yet, their language had been heavily influenced by various Slavic languages, and on top of that, it carries many features peculiar to the area of the Balkans; thought to be inherited from an older, proto-Balkanic linguistic substratum. Search for "Balkan Linguistic Union" if you need more info on this phenomenon.
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#4 Dec 11, 2012
No but Japanese are. Latinos can be anyone. Black Asian Arab Japanese munchkins, fairies, vampires,Oompa Loompus,zombies, chupacabras if they live in a Latin American country.

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#5 Dec 11, 2012
That explains why I am thrown off eventually in understanding this language and am forced to depend on prhase recognition to in order to get the gist of what's going on. Knowing English and some Italian and Portuguese does give me some additional assistance though since I can cross-reference phonetical and written similarities.

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#6 Dec 11, 2012
The general impression I get when watching videos of Romanian people, such as the Cleopatra Straten family, is that the nation was profoundly, culturally influenced by Italy.

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#7 Dec 11, 2012
This music and the way it's phrased and sung with its stresses to convey emotion is typically Latino.

Cleopatra Stratan - Te-am Intalnit

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#8 Dec 11, 2012
That's what Latinos call a bolero.

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#9 Dec 11, 2012
The American definition restricts it to people of South America. The definition I grew up hearing was the following one used by Italian and Portuguese dictionaries.

Definitions in other languages

Further information: Latins

The term latino (feminine latina) in the Romance languages, such as Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish, literally translates as "Latin". The cognate French term is Latin, not Latino. Portuguese dictionaries define the demonym latino to refer to natives of Romance-speaking nations influenced by Roman civilization, and to the natives or inhabitants of ancient Latium (modern Lazio).[46][47] Italian dictionaries define the demonym latino as: the ancient Latins and Romans, and their language, Latin, as well as the neo-Latin nations.[48][49] The dictionary of the Real Academia EspaƱola defines ten meanings for latino, including the ancient peoples of Latium and the modern Romance-speaking European and American nations.[50] In these languages, latino, just like any other demonym, is by convention not capitalized.

http://www.ask.com/wiki/Latino_ (demonym)?o=3986&qsrc=999

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#10 Dec 11, 2012
The American definition restricts it to people of Latin America.

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#11 Dec 11, 2012
There is no debate on whether or not Italians , French , Spaniards and Portuguese are latinos. They are. Romanians, on the other hand is a debatable issue because of greater cultural influence by non-Romance language speaking people such as Hungarians,, Slavs and Greeks. I am eager to get opinions from some Romanians.

#4 Are Romanians latinos? Sat 06 Jun 09 1:21:15coolnewyorker
New York City - Manhattan
United States of America ....

Are Romanians latinos? It is somewhat debatable because of their closer cultural traits with and multi-faceted influence by non-Romance language
speaking neighbors. But I would think, some Romanians who are proud of their Roman/Latin heritage might take exception to that.

"latino" in this context must be used outside the political and wrong definition
by USA. "latino" in the academic non-political context is a speaker of Latin
based Romance language.

Are Romanians latinos? Mon 08 Jun 09 5:12:06

coolnewyorker
New York City - Manhattan
United States of America @imk60....I agree NYC is a great city...I know, I live there.

But NYC has nothing to do with USA's goof in the mis-use of the word "latino".

Long before your grandparents were born, long before the Europeans discovered
"Latin America", the word "latino" was already in use to refer to people from
countries where Latin based language, we now call Romance language, was spoken.

Unfortunately, USA, in being more concerned with political correctness than
etymological correctness created its own version of the word.

Your idea of "Latino" being "Hispanic" applies only in the continent of Americas. Anywhere else there are other latinos who are not Spanish speakers. To some, Romanians ARE latinos. And contrary to USA's misuse, Brazilians ARE
latinos.

In Europe, "latino" has no political context. In Germany, where there is a growing community of Mexicans, the word "Latino" is used to refer to them but I think it has the USA's connotation. It just happens to be also etymologically correct as they speak Spanish....a Romance language.

....Stick to the European usage. After all, they were the original
"latinos".

Are Romanians latinos? Mon 08 Jun 09 16:31:03

coolnewyorker
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It is unfortunate that USA has influenced many people with its political version
of 'latino".

Here are two well written articles by two prominent scholars on the topic:

http://www.globalpolitician.com/2946-hispanic...

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Latin...

It is important to discern that ''Latino" in USA has it own self-serving political purpose for its creation while "latino" outside USA is based on long standing etymological , historical and cultural understanding of the "latino"
designation..... well before there was even USA or "Latinj America".

In short, you certainly can use "latino" the American version, or the traditional European original...as long as you know which one you are using. And for what purpose...political correctness or just plain correctness.

Are Romanians latinos? Thu 11 Jun 09 20:01:45

coolnewyorker
. Desperate to hear from Romanians, I asked the 6 Romanian regulars on Central

Park Tennis Center if they consider themselves latinos.

They all answered almost in unison, "You have to ask? Of course we are latinos.
We were latinos even before there were Puerto Ricans".(OK, I did not bother to
ask for elaboration on the Puerto Rican quip...somehow I have this feeling they
think I am Puerto Rican)

One added, "Here, they think latinos are just hispanics. We are latinos
because Romanian is a Romance language, just like Spanish and Italian."

So, there, at least 6 Romanians have spoken: Romanians are latinos!!!.

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http://secure.hospitalityclub.org/hc/forum.ph...
Robin

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#12 Jan 14, 2013
NOPE! Brainiac IS COMPLETELY WRONG! As a fluent speaker of Spanish-I GUARANTEE YOU ROMANIAN IS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR IN SIMILARITY TO ITALIAN AND PORTUGESE AS SPANISH IS!

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#13 Jan 15, 2013
Robin wrote:
NOPE! Brainiac IS COMPLETELY WRONG! As a fluent speaker of Spanish-I GUARANTEE YOU ROMANIAN IS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR IN SIMILARITY TO ITALIAN AND PORTUGESE AS SPANISH IS!
I never claimed that it is.

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#14 Jan 15, 2013
Brainiac2 wrote:
That explains why I am thrown off eventually in understanding this language and am forced to depend on prhase recognition to in order to get the gist of what's going on. Knowing English and some Italian and Portuguese does give me some additional assistance though since I can cross-reference phonetical and written similarities.
I'm also fluent in Spanish.

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#15 Jan 15, 2013
Perhaps the statement was misleading.
Understandable.

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#17 Jan 15, 2013
Swede wrote:
Romanian's are white, but some of them look like gypsies.
I dont like immigration from Romania since it is often gypsies who come and parazite on my nation.
Romanians:
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Admin/BkF...
http://octaviancocolos.ro/wp-content/uploads/...
are white.
Their whiteness isn't being questioned.

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#18 Jan 15, 2013
Excerpt:

Demographics of Romania

adjective: Romanian

Major ethnic:Romanian

Minor ethnic:

Hungarian, German, Roma, Turkish-Tatar, Serbian, Croatian, Slovakian,
:Romanian (91%)language

This article is about the demographic features of the population of Romania, including population density, ethnicity, education level, health of the populace, economic status, religious affiliations and other aspects of the population.

About 89.4% of the people of Romania are ethnic Romanians, whose language, Romanian, is an Eastern Romance language, descended primarily from Latin with some Bulgarian, Serbian, German, Greek, Hungarian and Turkish borrowings.

Romanians are by far the most numerous group of speakers of an Eastern Romance language today. It has been said that they constitute "an island of Latinity"[3] in Eastern Europe, surrounded on all sides either by Slavic peoples or by the Hungarians.

The Hungarian minority in Romania constitutes the country's largest minority, 6.5 per cent of the population.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_...
Maria

Bucharest, Romania

#19 Jan 15, 2013
yes, of couse we are latins :)
Our language is based on latin and has some foreign influences, mostly salvic because of the region we are in, and turkish, "thanks" to the waves of otoman occupation centuries ago.
And i can understand about 70% of italian straight away, a little bit less of spanish, but i cant speak that easy because i can't found quickly the proper words to express myself. I studied french in school so i don't now how much i understand because of that and how much because our languages are similar. Portugese is a bit harder for me.

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#20 Jan 15, 2013
Maria wrote:
yes, of couse we are latins :)
Our language is based on latin and has some foreign influences, mostly salvic because of the region we are in, and turkish, "thanks" to the waves of otoman occupation centuries ago.
And i can understand about 70% of italian straight away, a little bit less of spanish, but i cant speak that easy because i can't found quickly the proper words to express myself. I studied french in school so i don't now how much i understand because of that and how much because our languages are similar. Portugese is a bit harder for me.
I'm a big fan of Cleopatra Stratan.

Cleopatra Stratan
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php...
Masud_S_Hoghughi __

Dubai, UAE

#21 Jan 15, 2013
....man......u niccuz r too stoopit for words........

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