Blackman save white women from 10 year of captivity!

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May 11, 2013
 
Janette wrote:
<quoted text>Well who's said that skin tone alone defines color,not me.No it does not,because aside from their skin tone, this hispanic kidnapper,his daughters,and one of the kidnapped women,show none white physical facial features,so there is more there to set them apart from being considered white. Anyway when I said that these females were not white,but latino,I was speaking from the vantage point of how the society sees them. From society's vantage point and not from my own view,they are not by society classified as white,but Latino,else they'd be classified as white,same as Irish,Italians, and Scandinavians are classified white.
I didn't say that I agreed with it,cause racial classifications are not my doing. As far as there being just a small percentage of black mix within latinos,where you say most of them are lily white.I disagree with that. It is more like many latinos have a small amount of black in their ancestry, simply because of the heavy slavery going on in Latino Caribbean way back when.But though the black mix is there,it's watered down by the mix with whites that also went on Latino countries, so that these people are fair in comparison to more predominantly blooded blacks. It's sort of like blacks who are physically predominantly black,they have a small percentage of white mix in them,but you can hardly notice it,same as some Latinos have a small percentage of black in them,but look more white.
They are white Hispanics. They have white skin, therefore they are white. You are probably speaking of caucasion?? Caucasion and white skin isn't the same. Caucasions aren't the only ones with white skin. Asians also have white skin. Blacks do not have white skin. And most people view them as white because that's what they are. Hence the words from the black man to begin with.
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May 11, 2013
 
Janette wrote:
<quoted text>Well who's said that skin tone alone defines color,not me.No it does not,because aside from their skin tone, this hispanic kidnapper,his daughters,and one of the kidnapped women,show none white physical facial features,so there is more there to set them apart from being considered white. Anyway when I said that these females were not white,but latino,I was speaking from the vantage point of how the society sees them. From society's vantage point and not from my own view,they are not by society classified as white,but Latino,else they'd be classified as white,same as Irish,Italians, and Scandinavians are classified white.
I didn't say that I agreed with it,cause racial classifications are not my doing. As far as there being just a small percentage of black mix within latinos,where you say most of them are lily white.I disagree with that. It is more like many latinos have a small amount of black in their ancestry, simply because of the heavy slavery going on in Latino Caribbean way back when.But though the black mix is there,it's watered down by the mix with whites that also went on Latino countries, so that these people are fair in comparison to more predominantly blooded blacks. It's sort of like blacks who are physically predominantly black,they have a small percentage of white mix in them,but you can hardly notice it,same as some Latinos have a small percentage of black in them,but look more white.
Mixture with black doesn't make someone black. It makes them mixed. That's not black. Plus anything which happened during slavery is much too far back to mean anything in terms of genetic. Most Hispanics are white dear. You aren't correct about that.
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May 11, 2013
 
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But apparently, he wasn't a hero at all like I first thought. You should be saying things like this if we was a hero, but instead, he was falsely taking the credit. So you want to talk about stereotypes now, when the guy turned out to not be so good after all and a faker instead? That's that's not a good time to make your point against stereotypes because if he is merely a lowly faker, then he would be reinforcing the stereotype that you claim is so wrong. Can you understand that? So why would you bring up what you brought up? Why doesn't anybody seem to think in this place? How does someone deal with people who can't even reason properly?
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I didn't even know about his criminal past. This just gets worse and worse.
No one is thinking Pro primo: a lot of ppl seem to be doing just fine without ( thinking ). Pro secundo: you can have a headache.
Of corse the dectectives should investigate. They
should investigate why the autorities have ignored and not reacted as they should, when they had inquiries from ppl about the kidnapped women. That's thier responsability . It's not Ramseys fault he fits a stereotype because he has done nothing but try to help. How embarassad are you on a scale from one to ten, that he managed to do what no one could . Save the girls. Where is the evidence he did not?
Is he going to take the blame for what the autorities failed to do. Poor guy I'd say.
The women are free jahoooeee!
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May 11, 2013
 
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What the?
Now let me get this straight: You're a successful Wall Street executive from New York City now on Topix with two profiles. That --- that is FUNNY! It's hilarious.
What is the last museum you visited in New York? Do you ever go to any art galleries? What was the last piece that moved you? Was it a painting? Post modern? Photography? Look pal, people who live in places like New York, San Francisco, and Los Angeles who pay taxes do these kind of things. Here you come blabbering over being white. I'm sorry kid, but you have some growing to do. In the real world nobody cares how white you are. Not even white people on Wall Street --especially white people on Wall Street.
Pick up those sad little pieces. Come back with some experience and an education in something other than what you've presented, and maybe I can have a serious dialogue with you.
i changed my name cuz they wouldnt let me be straight up black bych..its a hint of sarcasm to your ebonic speech..perhaps u can figure that out.. and what are you an artist now?? dont make me laugh..here in nyc we have the met, guggenheim, american museum of modern art..lots of others..but thats not important. what is important however, is the fact that you are an angry black boy who expects even more handouts to live your "lavish" lifestyle.. without the white man you would starve..go back to africa and live in a hut..thats a far cry from san fran.. im so sick of hearing "africans have soul", or "we are natures true race" or some other BS.. your ancestors still live in huts made of mud and sticks and live tribal existances.. they havent even figured out how to get clean water...they truly are unmotivated and neglectful to lifes challenges...leave it to the white man to solve the worlds problems..white men are forward thinkers..black boys live in huts.. thats reality, black boy
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May 11, 2013
 
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They are white Hispanics. They have white skin, therefore they are white. You are probably speaking of caucasion?? Caucasion and white skin isn't the same. Caucasions aren't the only ones with white skin. Asians also have white skin. Blacks do not have white skin. And most people view them as white because that's what they are. Hence the words from the black man to begin with.
Well I am neither Caucasian,nor Latino,and I still have white skin,so by you saying,as you do above, that to have white skin,makes one white,then that would make me white too,though I certainly am not white. No, most latinos are similar to someone like Venessa L Williams or Mariah Carey,or like myself.They are fair skinned,nearly, or just as fair as any white person,but are not Caucasian white,because they are mixed,multiracial instead,and it shows up in their physical features.
You were more correct when you stated above that there is more to placing a person as white,then just their light complexion. Look at the noses of a couple of the Latinos in this case,for heavens sake.Icommonly see blacks with more narrower nosed than theirs?
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In this particular case it's really "good" to have Ramsey, he is taking focus away from those who are truely responsable . The autorities. Because he fits a stereotype. Why he is being almost criminalized is really strange. I mean he didn't kidnap the women. If there's something wrong in his statements, you will eventually know. Until then why not ask the question, how could society fail those women for so long time? And how can it be prevented in the future.
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It does me good to see One black man do something good because most of them are out committing crime.
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Mixture with black doesn't make someone black. It makes them mixed. That's not black. Plus anything which happened during slavery is much too far back to mean anything in terms of genetic. Most Hispanics are white dear. You aren't correct about that.
Ever heard of the "one drop rule" that was so preponderant in U.S. from the 1930s and still applied in many cases today? Plenty of people are mixed,have more white mix in them than black,look more white,and are still considered black,in spite of how non black they look.No I'm not wrong about anything I wrote.I didn't write the policy,just quoting it.
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Well I will not discount someone else's experience but for me, once I stopped viewing myself as a victim and just saw myself as an aware person, I rarely encounter anything which can be pointed out as a concrete racial incident. I don't even know if I'm being followed in the store anymore because it simply doesn't matter. I'm not stealing and to me that's just case closed. The business itself can do whatever they need to do to protect themselves outside of boldly violating my civil rights because I honestly don't care. I'm not stealing and that's that. I rarely have "confrontations" nor disagreements with anyone which have racial undertones anymore. I've grown and I'm so thankful for it.
So what are you inferring,that because I said that I have had bad encounters with the police,it must have been me doing something wrong. No I don't think so,I have never stolen,or physically attacked,nor verbally abused,threatened,nor cursed anyone,,nor stolen,either within or outside of the presence of police,But on two occasians because of some misunderstanding, had the police be very nasty,and disrespectful towards me.These days,I am only looking to protect myself to go peacefully along without being victimized by either people or the police.sSo as I stated above,in order to avoid it occurring to me again,I have vowed to say as little to any white cop as I can, in order to limit his opportunity to disrespect me. Because to me,the best that one can do is go along as I have been doing,minding my business,and not bothering or infringing upon another.And it is deplorable to be disrespected by law enforcement when you were going about doing only that.
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Janette wrote:
<quoted text>Ever heard of the "one drop rule" that was so preponderant in U.S. from the 1930s and still applied in many cases today? Plenty of people are mixed,have more white mix in them than black,look more white,and are still considered black,in spite of how non black they look.
I argued with someone else here about this and they had no answer, i'll say it again..One drop rule is B.S. It was only created to keep "black americans" (no matter how they look)segregated from white America. One drop rule is not even practiced. Police/law inforcement are government entities and they ALWAYS differentiate blacks from hispanics whenever they give a description of a criminal. When police looking for someone they never call a Latinos black even though many of them have black blood, police always say hispanic/latino when giving a description of Latinos, description=race. That alone should tell you one drop rule is not even being practiced in America by most people.
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<quoted text>Ever heard of the "one drop rule" that was so preponderant in U.S. from the 1930s and still applied in many cases today? Plenty of people are mixed,have more white mix in them than black,look more white,and are still considered black,in spite of how non black they look.No I'm not wrong about anything I wrote.I didn't write the policy,just quoting it.
If you live in America you know when police looking for someone whenever they give the description of a person the first thing they do is state their RACE, then height, weight..etc. Whenever police looking for hispanics/latinos (including the ones with black blood)you and i know they never refer to hispanics as "black"...so your statement is wrong.
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<quoted text> Most Hispanics are white dear. You aren't correct about that.
No they are not..most hispanics are "mixed", not black, not white, just mixed. Some look more on the white side, some a little closer to the black side, some a little more indian..some a combination of all 3. but overall they are simply a mixed race people. Calling them white is a little too much.
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May 11, 2013
 
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<quoted text>No they are not..most hispanics are "mixed", not black, not white, just mixed. Some look more on the white side, some a little closer to the black side, some a little more indian..some a combination of all 3. but overall they are simply a mixed race people. Calling them white is a little too much.
Most Hispanics are white skinned people. They in general have a mixture of other white skinned people..such as Spanish, Asian, europeon.etc..Most Hispanics are not black.
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May 11, 2013
 
Janette wrote:
<quoted text>Well I am neither Caucasian,nor Latino,and I still have white skin,so by you saying,as you do above, that to have white skin,makes one white,then that would make me white too,though I certainly am not white. No, most latinos are similar to someone like Venessa L Williams or Mariah Carey,or like myself.They are fair skinned,nearly, or just as fair as any white person,but are not Caucasian white,because they are mixed,multiracial instead,and it shows up in their physical features.
You were more correct when you stated above that there is more to placing a person as white,then just their light complexion. Look at the noses of a couple of the Latinos in this case,for heavens sake.Icommonly see blacks with more narrower nosed than theirs?
You are confusing white skin with Caucasian. Again, Caucasians aren't the only one with white skin. And most Hispanics look just like the girl who was kidnapped and the guy who did it. Most Hispanics don't look like Mariah Carey (who is white skinned). Mariah isn't fair skinned..she is very much white skinned.
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Janette wrote:
<quoted text>Ever heard of the "one drop rule" that was so preponderant in U.S. from the 1930s and still applied in many cases today? Plenty of people are mixed,have more white mix in them than black,look more white,and are still considered black,in spite of how non black they look.No I'm not wrong about anything I wrote.I didn't write the policy,just quoting it.
I don't understand why so many are still going by the one drop rule?? That was during slavery/jim crow?? It was never meant to be taken for genetic accuracy in the first place. It was simply needed for separation due to social hierarchy. It was never a genetically accurate rule.
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Most Hispanics are white skinned people. They in general have a mixture of other white skinned people..such as Spanish, Asian, europeon.etc..Most Hispanics are not black.
According to who, you? You are ignorant. That is not true. Hispanics are a combination of different races and they usually look as such..they are neither black, white, but mixed race..end of story.
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<quoted text>So what are you inferring,that because I said that I have had bad encounters with the police,it must have been me doing something wrong. No I don't think so,I have never stolen,or physically attacked,nor verbally abused,threatened,nor cursed anyone,,nor stolen,either within or outside of the presence of police,But on two occasians because of some misunderstanding, had the police be very nasty,and disrespectful towards me.These days,I am only looking to protect myself to go peacefully along without being victimized by either people or the police.sSo as I stated above,in order to avoid it occurring to me again,I have vowed to say as little to any white cop as I can, in order to limit his opportunity to disrespect me. Because to me,the best that one can do is go along as I have been doing,minding my business,and not bothering or infringing upon another.And it is deplorable to be disrespected by law enforcement when you were going about doing only that.
No I'm not implying that you did something wrong. I'm simply saying that often time when you view yourself as a victim, you end up seeing things which really aren't there in the first place. Or you have a preoccupation inadvertently with "wrongs" committed against you. It's not a good way to live. What happens is when you see yourself in that way, things then start to happen which confirm how you see yourself.
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Most Hispanics are white skinned people.
"some" are white skinned, some are yellow, some are brown, they are mixed race, not white, nor black. These are hispanics, theirs is a very common look in many latinos, do they look white skined to you?

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#555
May 11, 2013
 
good for the black guy. but really should be the other way around
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May 11, 2013
 
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<quoted text>According to who, you? You are ignorant. That is not true. Hispanics are a combination of different races and they usually look as such..they are neither black, white, but mixed race..end of story.
Most Hispanics (universal word) are mixed with different white ethnicities..not black. Blacks were mostly slaves during this period of heavy mixing. Hispanics mainly have Spanish and/or Portuguese roots. Most are white..the culture itself started with whites, not blacks. Some blacks are trying to claim Hispanic original like many try to claim creole (another Spanish origin). Very pathetic quite frankly.

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