Asexuality discussion thread

Asexuality discussion thread

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“The Spotted Girl News Network”

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Spotted World

#1 May 1, 2014
I started a thread to be non-serious and for discussing light topics. However, a few detractors have tried to take over and discuss heavy topics that don't belong there. So here's a place for discussing one of these topics. I will reply to any misdirected posts in that thread here (and maybe talk Topix into deleting the OT ones from that other thread).

“The Spotted Girl News Network”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Spotted World

#2 May 1, 2014
Undercover Deciple wrote:
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Don't blame us for your types being infertile and or impotent.
Nature is re balancing.
And i curse the day when my forefathers allowed you out of the caves, where you did lie with dogs. And up to this day, made dogs your best friend.
I am always suspicious of any white woman seen with dogs, especially big tall dogs, cause you know something is going down.
Again, asexuality is a NATURAL, INBORN orientation. It is disrespectful to bring up sex around them or discuss it with them in the least. Most asexual folks have working sex organs, but God created them with the lack of any need nor imperative to ever use them and has commanded them to never do so. That way, they can be the priestesses, shamans, and geniuses, without the constant distraction that every sexual person has. People with sexual interests can never be great people - just mediocre, since they have nonstop distractions. They live a very degrading life where they are enslaved by their sex drives. Lets paint a portrait of each.

1. Sexual guy gets up to go to work. The first thing on his mind is sex. He pesters and badgers the wife until she reluctantly gives it, even if she is sick or tired. After all, sexual people, particularly men, are very selfish. Then he goes to the bathroom to get ready. There's the magazine laying by the toilet and he heads its call. So he sits on the toilet, opens the magazine, and... Then he cleans up from that and brushes his teeth, and oral care reminds him of something else, and he figures he can hire someone for that on the way to work. So he drives by the cruising strip and nobody's there, so he goes over a street and sees a woman pushing a stroller and asks her how much for certain services, not caring that she's pushing a kid. She refuses and he yells filthy names at her. He heads to work, but he realizes he left his briefcase at home because he was distracted and goes back to get it. Then he goes to work and is filled with resentment since his boss is female, and he thinks women are only good for one thing. Then he heads to his cubicle, boots the PC, and goes directly to his favorite adult site. He finds it blocked, but he has a whole list of proxy sites. The phone rings, but he doesn't answer because he is "busy" and doesn't want to leave any "evidence" on the phone. He doesn't know it's the big contract he's supposed to close and that he missed the first call before he got there. When he returns the call, it's too late. The deal is done, but with the company's biggest competitor. The big boss of the sexual guy's company walks in on him during one of his private viewing sessions, and fires him for losing the contract. He goes home to make hot, passionate love with his wife, but she's angry and doesn't want him around her. Then he goes back to the cruising strip - and picks up an undercover cop for sex and is thrown in jail. While in jail, his wife gets a divorce attorney.

2. An asexual person wakes up and thoughts and ambitions enter their mind. They feel energized and ready to make a major discovery. Since they live alone, there's nobody to get in their way. They go straight to work, since work means a lot to them. They'd rather spend more time in the lab, but they're the most competent there and expected to be manager. After work, they take night classes since they have a thirst for knowledge. While others where they work are wasting time getting drunk or going on dates, they are hitting the books and determined to make something of themselves. Themselves is the key word, and they like being alone to struggle against the otherwise hard world.

“The Spotted Girl News Network”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Spotted World

#3 May 1, 2014
Undercover Deciple wrote:
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Are you on any illicit powder or cocaine?
May you one day, wake up and be happy and enjoy life.
I wish i could Pat your head. And give you a shower.
This always work.
No, I've never taken drugs. I've never needed to "socialize" nor have any type of crutch. Being a slave is a very degrading thing to me, and thus I refuse to be one. I refuse to be a slave to any substance, person, relationship, television show, peer pressure, or propaganda. I choose to be free of all that.

I am very thankful of the orientation God gave me and the freedom it gives me that few know.

As for you, go settle down with someone of your own race, marry them, and do what married people do - nonstop for all I care. I'd be happy for you. Just go and do your own thing. Just don't try to force it on me nor anyone else, and stop posting hints and digs to tarnish the character of those who won't give into what you want them to do.

Each day I wake up and am happier than most. It is energizing to be just me up against a cruel world, and the greater the obstacles and the greater the opportunity to overcome them, the happier I am. To have anyone in my life would be bondage, and to get to wake up alone and to control EVERY aspect of my life, even down to where I throw my dirty clothes, what I wear, how many times I brush my teeth (or don't), what I eat, where I go or when, is the most important thing in my life. Freedom has always meant more to me than friends.

It is you who are unhappy and have to pretend others are unhappy to try to manipulate them into doing what makes your selfish self happy. You are miserable. You have the constant burden of sexuality, and you can't have that and truly be happy. It is a cruel slave master with whips and chains to beat you if you don't bow down to it and comply. It forces you to worship the false goddess of Aphrodite and sucks the life force right out of you. So don't tell me you are happy. I was born permanently lacking such a burden, and I constantly feel light and happy except when others try to intrude and steal the perfect life I already have. They want to superimpose their constant need and degrading passions onto me, and that is not right nor fair.

“The Spotted Girl News Network”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Spotted World

#4 May 1, 2014
Undercover Deciple wrote:
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The reason i asked, is because i've noticed you have a keen and very deep interest where Black men put their D..ick.s.
Perhaps you wet the sheets thinking of what it could feel like.
No I don't care where they put them as long as they see I am White and have the BRAINS to know I am totally irrelevant to them. MY PEOPLE are MY business, and it's my duty as a WW to help keep other WW pure and ONLY supporting the White race, and my duty as a WW to protect them from ALL advances from BM. The only people who have a right to notice WP or interact with them are other WP.

And before anyone asks why I am here, it is only to be an activist and to FIGHT and EARN the freedom I need in my real life experiences. Online is different and more impersonal - just like I want ALL my contacts with others to be; distant, superficial, and impersonal.

“The Spotted Girl News Network”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Spotted World

#6 May 1, 2014
I wouldn't know anything about her, and have never had a problem with her. If you have a problem with someone, take it up with them, not ask random posters.
Marcus Washington

Laredo, TX

#7 May 1, 2014
What do you want to know? I"ve had more a** than a Toilet Seat. Are a thick White girl? or are you one of those pasty beanpole mofos with huge feet and hands?

“The Spotted Girl News Network”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Spotted World

#8 May 1, 2014
Marcus Washington wrote:
What do you want to know? I"ve had more a** than a Toilet Seat. Are a thick White girl? or are you one of those pasty beanpole mofos with huge feet and hands?
You have no right to know as I was never interested and never will be. I thank God every day for making me without the filthy, distracting desires that you obviously have. Maybe if you get some religion, God will love you enough to take most of those desires away and make you much happier than you are now, and make you as good of a person as I am. The more a man turns everything into sex, the LESS rights he should have. And there should be a law that states that if you know a person is of the asexual orientation and you come onto them, that you get a needle in your arm by the state.

“Univ. of Texas-Med School!!! ”

Level 5

Since: Dec 12

Houston, TX

#10 May 1, 2014
If you're a woman, you are going to eventually want an intimate relationship with a man.

“Reality is merely an illusion”

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Since: Apr 12

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#11 May 1, 2014
So you are capable of having kids but choose not to. Got it.
The Likeable Racist

United States

#12 May 1, 2014
Hmm, asexuality can be an issue for all involved, I knew a gal, very very good looking -a female Zoolander lol- and she thought that she hadn't found the right guy -or gal- essentially she had sex because that's what couples do, but she didn't exactly enjoy it or even hate it, she was just neutral, she couldn't see where the pleasurable aspect came from.

Her partners had a tough time, sexual people are aroused all time by various people and situations, sometimes just looking at someone can get juices flowing or a boner, or maybe even a voice, a laugh...imagine that, you are close to someone, you are an item yet, no matter how hard you try that beauty in the bed beneath you will never enjoy what you are doing, tolerate, maybe, but never ever enjoy it...pretty tough.

That gal is now happy filling her life with other things, and in some ways I envy her, sexual humans waste so much of their lives pursuing the next prey, and when in a relationship quite a bit of time is 'wasted' keeping the relationship going with doing the necessary...must be great to enter a room knowing that no matter what happens you are in full control, and that your sexual organs will not play any part in the proceedings...I guess in many ways these people are 'pure'...

“The Spotted Girl News Network”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Spotted World

#13 May 1, 2014
--AAA-- wrote:
If you're a woman, you are going to eventually want an intimate relationship with a man.
No, that is just a lie that needy losers tell themselves about women. If you are born with the unchangeable asexual orientation, you will never be capable of such desires, and attempts to brainwash such a person won't work. That is like telling a gay man that he will eventually want to have an intimate relationship with a woman. It doesn't work that way.

And I don't appreciate your sexism. If you are born without romantic and sexual desires, you will never have them regardless of your gender. Everything that is possible for a man is possible for a woman and vice-versa. Remember, this is America, and in America, you HAVE TO treat men and women the same and assume the same things about both.

But don't fear, you yourself are going to eventually want an intimate relationship with a man. There are support groups for men like you everywhere, and you don't have to live in denial nor repression of your same-sex attractions any longer. Your local PFLAG chapter and your local MCC church will be good places to start.
The Likeable Racist

United States

#14 May 1, 2014
--AAA-- wrote:
If you're a woman, you are going to eventually want an intimate relationship with a man.
Not necessarily, I know of at least one woman who is completely asexual, nothing on Earth will turn her on, a lot of guys think she just needs converting, but they're fooling themselves...she has all the bits a woman should have but her wiring isn't connected...if you licked or stroked her clit, it's just like getting a hair in the nose to her...a d!k in her foo-foo is just ike having a turd in the back passage...

Believe me, your view of sexuality is VERY simplistic...
The Likeable Racist

United States

#15 May 1, 2014
Matthew_1 wrote:
So you are capable of having kids but choose not to. Got it.
That's an interesting point, the gal I knew had no interest whatsoever in kids, unusual for a woman...I don't know about other asexual folks, but this one was almost pathological in her dislike of kids...she had all the kit, she had herself checked out a few times because she thought something was wrong with her and that was why she felt nothing with sex.

“The Spotted Girl News Network”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Spotted World

#16 May 1, 2014
Matthew_1 wrote:
So you are capable of having kids but choose not to. Got it.
No, it is not a choice. It is same as being gay. You are just born with NO ATTRACTION nor desire, It is permanent, every such person who feels that way is happier than most, etc. Stop pretending this is a choice. It is neither a choice nor a pluming issue.

Being asexual means you were born with a SUPERIOR brain, and no desires nor feelings for romance never come. They never cross your mind, and you never repress anything. Such a person has deeply pleasurable feelings for stuff like math and science. And if they have someone in their life, it is ALWAYS a platonic friend, and they live like siblings, and it never progresses beyond that. If the other person is a sexual person, they are likely to get the cops called on them and a restraining order if they try to turn the friendship into anything else.

“Home is Where the Heart is”

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Since: Dec 09

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#17 May 1, 2014
Hi Spotted Girl... How do you define your terms or levels of asexuality (if you want to answer)...What I mean is although there may be a lack of sexual attraction to males & females...do you have any emotional or romantic attraction to people?
Do you also consider yourself to be aromantic or would it fall into another category?

If I had to choose for myself..it would be demiromantic/demisexual with males only.
Although it's claimed that only 1% of the population is asexual..I personally believe it's "much" higher..and most asexuals are probably in the closet (like homosexuals were) because of social judgment and because many may be confused still.

“The Spotted Girl News Network”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Spotted World

#18 May 1, 2014
The Likeable Racist wrote:
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That's an interesting point, the gal I knew had no interest whatsoever in kids, unusual for a woman...I don't know about other asexual folks, but this one was almost pathological in her dislike of kids...she had all the kit, she had herself checked out a few times because she thought something was wrong with her and that was why she felt nothing with sex.
It is not unusual at all, but I never mentioned children.

Since you are so obsessed, here is what you do. You go find you an underground doctor who is willing to deliberately cause an eptopic pregnancy. He can pump you up with progesterone and implant an embryo inside your abdominal cavity. After a month, the hormone treatments will be stopped, since the placenta will make all that is needed from then on. And you will have to be monitored closely, since this is the most dangerous way to get pregnant. You would lack a womb, so the egg might attach to the intestines or something. They would have to do C-section, and you'd be lucky if you both survive. But AFAIK, nobody has actually done this.

Another option being explored would be a uterus transplant from a donor. That would have its risks, and if there is any delay from the time it is implanted to the time you get an embryo, you'd need to be on prednisone or something to prevent tissue rejection. Then once you get pregnant, the changes should make tissue rejection less likely (since there are chemicals given off to make your body able to accept the baby). You'd likely need a cesarean since you'd likely keep all your parts and wouldn't have the muscles down there needed for pushing. Then with the baby, the uterus could be removed too and keep you from needing steroids or other drugs the rest of your life.

See, that is the thing, all asexual women are perfectly normal. God just had a better plan for them that didn't include being owned as property by a man (that is what marriage is - ownership and control). Look at the customs. You know what dowry is? It is payment by the bride's father to have the privilege of his daughter marrying the groom's son. She isn't worth enough to get him in the eyes of sexist men, so her father has to pay to make up for her not being a man. Just like there are men created with no such desires, there are also some women. They just don't have any desires nor attractions for others, and no interest in sex. They might have a normal sex drive, but no need to take care of it with others. Sometimes such persons have Asperger's or SPD (schizoid personality, and this has no relation to schizophrenia). But the lack of desire is always stable, and it is nothing that needs to be corrected nor change, and there are no underlying health issues.

Here is some more information:
http://www.asexuality.org/home/

Do keep in mind that asexuality (opposite of bisexuality) is a range or gradient, and there are different shades of asexuality (I'm at the far end of it). Not all have an interest in romance, and not all have an interest in sex, and some have neither. So if you lack either and get in ANY sort of relationship, it would feel so wrong and fake, and you'd have to live a lie, pretend to like it, and play some stupid game. It is like what a gay guy feels for years with a woman. So the comments on the home page saying they are capable of romantic relationships only applies to some. That site tends to be biased, and the most extreme asexuals won't feel welcome there. They have message boards attacking asexual elitism, calling oneself a "true asexual," etc.

“The Spotted Girl News Network”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Spotted World

#19 May 1, 2014
IR BW wrote:
Hi Spotted Girl... How do you define your terms or levels of asexuality (if you want to answer)...What I mean is although there may be a lack of sexual attraction to males & females...do you have any emotional or romantic attraction to people?
Do you also consider yourself to be aromantic or would it fall into another category?
If I had to choose for myself..it would be demiromantic/demisexual with males only.
Although it's claimed that only 1% of the population is asexual..I personally believe it's "much" higher..and most asexuals are probably in the closet (like homosexuals were) because of social judgment and because many may be confused still.
I'm at the far end of asexuality and have no romantic nor sexual attraction at all, and I've never been lonely. I see most other people as being in the way and only obstacles to what I want in life. I'd have the most power and effectiveness if others would just stay out of my way and let me be me, and give me the freedom to be great on my own, which also means giving me to freedom to screw up on my own with no safety net. If I make a mistake, that is my problem, and I want the right to pay for it, full strength, without interference. That is the only true way to learn, and I only value wisdom that comes directly from me.

Since I was young, the whole romance thing has been a turnoff. Like if someone liked someone and others made fun of them for that, I didn't get it. Why do people make fun of someone because they have a crush or others have a crush on them, which would make the person uncomfortable, and then hate them when they come out as gay? Maybe if you didn't make fun of them for expressing normal interest, they would have not turned to abnormal interests. Okay, maybe I shouldn't say that as that would sound heterosexist and homophobic. But anyway, I've never had a crush on anyone nor had a cause to make eyes or any of that mess. I just didn't get it. Most around me had desires I never had, and I didn't understand nor get that.

I assumed I would grow into interest in others, but that never came. I was only interested in science, computers, and things I could do. I tried to convince myself that I was saving myself for marriage, and not everyone bought that and some even tried to push hard against what I presented as moral, faith-based arguments. After I was on my own and living alone, I absolutely enjoyed the freedom and vowed never to give it up. As minority men have tried to push (and harder than WM who seem to read signals of disinterest correctly and who are too respectful to do that, and have the brains to accept the first No as a firm answer), it has only convinced me that I have no interest at all. For a while, I tried to respond as a racist, since at least that would mean I don't have to admit I have no such interest. And to a certain degree, the racist excuse works as a turnoff. But what about the ones to whom that won't apply? So it is not effective for all cases of unwanted approaches. For any person who is not my existing family or friends to even notice me at all, and not simply say hi in passing and instantly forget me forever as all strangers are supposed to do, IMHO, that feels degrading.

As for higher than 1%, it is all about how you define it. I tend to think of orientation like a wheel, or more like a doughnut. Maybe divide the wheel into 3 parts. Those 3 would be attraction to men, women, and both. Then asexuality would be the hole in the doughnut. The outside edge would be the strongest attractions and the center being the least. Now, for some, it is along the edge of one of the 3 zones or maybe a little further out (like you might be), but for me, it would be the dead center.

Thank you for understanding!

“The Spotted Girl News Network”

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Since: Apr 09

Spotted World

#20 May 1, 2014
The Likeable Racist wrote:
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Not necessarily, I know of at least one woman who is completely asexual, nothing on Earth will turn her on, a lot of guys think she just needs converting, but they're fooling themselves...she has all the bits a woman should have but her wiring isn't connected...if you licked or stroked her clit, it's just like getting a hair in the nose to her...a d!k in her foo-foo is just ike having a turd in the back passage...
Believe me, your view of sexuality is VERY simplistic...
Thank you. That is how I see it, and your metaphors should be helpful.

What is bad are the men like those in Africa who rape lesbians and asexual women, thinking that is what they need to "fix" them. That only convinces them they were right all along, that men are worthless and violent and a good many just need shot in the head. That mentality is similar to men who bash transsexual women and call them men, thinking it will make them feel like men. If you want to try to convince them, at least show them the best side of masculinity, not the worst. That likely won't work either, but at least it won't be traumatizing.
Ugh

Houston, TX

#21 May 1, 2014
Spotted_Girl,

Your logic makes no sense. And there is no scripture or verse that says God "command" mortal humans to not have sex. In fact, it is an Asexual person that is to be the Anti-Christ. Did you know that? And your caricature looney-tune how Men wakes up in the morning thinking about constant sex is exaggerated and does not reflect reality.

I'm a Man that likes sex but I do exercise control and can conduct myself without it to deal with important matters. Man's brain functions still moves on if turned down for sex, okay? My Latina does that sometimes when she doesn't want to have sex, and I do. That's enough for me to not want it either if she doesn't want it when I want it.

And at times, she want sex when I don't want it either and she doesn't keep begging for it as she got pride just like me especially with her being a sexually attractive woman with serious curves. And I, myself, with well-defined physicality to not have any issues getting with a woman on any given day. I am totally confident if I wasn't with my Latina gal, and met you, you would want me after we spend time with each others before I would ever want you.

And I have no doubt you will make the first move on me, even as an Asexual female, and I will turn you down quick as I don't mate White women. Believe it.:-)

So, my point here, Man and Woman have these crazy sex-degradation and not just limited to Men. I had a White gal in college when it was a weekend, and I stay on the campus instead of hanging out with friends in the city. I simply wanted to go to the gym and shoot hoops. I love basketball. A basketball-junkie.

Anyway, the White chick I was with saw me change out of my casual wear into sport gears. I put on my underwear, short, ankle-length sock, my Nikes shoe. Sat on the edge of the bed to lotion my ankle, calves and thighs.

The whole time, she was just laying in my dorm bed; salivating at me. When I stood up, I was about to get my cut-off T-shirt (at the sleeves). And she was looking at my bare chest and eyeballing me up and down and goes,

".......fuck me before you go."

I was like,

"C'mon Debra! Im not in the mood to -----"

Debra:(got up off the bed. Draped her arms around my back and look up to my face and with a soft voice)

"I want you to f** me now"

She grabbed me "manhood", juggled my balls a bit and I just hesitantly gave in."

See there ------ I swear this is a true story as God is my witness. It just to show though, even White Women can have "constant sex" on their mind that BM, whom are KNOWN for it.

“The Spotted Girl News Network”

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Spotted World

#22 May 1, 2014
Matthew_1 wrote:
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NO, you need to keep your weird asexual ideology to yourself. WW need to have more kids, end of story.
And you need to keep your racism and Hitleresqe thinking to yourself and learn to accept yourself. And WW who are heterosexual or bisexual should have more kids, not all WW. Do you encourage the IR WW to get knocked up? At least the kids are half-White, right? But what about when the kids live according to the culture of the father but are attracted to women like the mother?

Again, I keep saying race (genes) is not the issue, but culture (way of life). If some orange aliens with blue spots moved in beside men, I wouldn't care as long as they don't commit crimes or act rude to me, and as long as they have a good work ethic, good morals, keep the themselves etc. I'd hope they keep their weird plants properly watered and groomed, and that they don't get high on some far out alien drugs and crash their spacecraft into anyone, anyone's children, or anyone's house. It would be helpful if they had a gun that could change brainwaves. It would be funny if a gang came up to them intending to rob them, but then the aliens blast them with the nonlethal alternative and gang is wondering why they are holding weapons and suddenly get a desire to attend the local library.

I also keep saying that WP are finally having the correct number of children, while we need to encourage the other people to have less, maybe adopt a one-child policy, with exceptions for college graduates, those not on assistance, and those with spotless criminal records.

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