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White guy born in Africa moves to US - is he African American?

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#1 Dec 3, 2011
Hi - who is an African American? I heard a story recently:

"I know a white guy who was born and raised in Kenya. When he applied to Georgetown Law school back in the 1990s, he checked the box "African American", and he was admitted immediately. When they found out he was white they not only rescinded his admission, but they let the law schools know about it and he was black listed (no pun intended) and did not get into law school anywhere."

This is wrong, no? The guy was born and raised in Africa and then moved to America. He's African-American. He's not black but he didnt misrepresent himself technically.

Also, apparently there are White South Africans who call themselves African-American on the census ballot. Technically they are correct.

What do you guys think? Does African American mean just black people from Africa? Or are other races also African American if they were born and raised in Africa then moved to America>

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#2 Dec 4, 2011
He's african not african american. African americans are blacks BORN in america. He wasn't born in america so he would just be african. If he's a white african he sould of checked white. He was probably confused that's why he checked african american. Being african and african american are two different things even though they may seem the same.

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#3 Dec 4, 2011
And if a jamaican is born in america they would be considered african american or just jamaican american. But when they apply to places they would check african american. This goes for other blacks. Once again african american means blacks BORN in AMERICA. Whether they're african jamaican ethiopian ect. All african americans aren't just 'black' we all have ancestry from somewhere which most of our ancestors are from africa. But there are african americans with ancestors from jamaica ect. Its like how italians and white latins would be considered white in america. And if they applied somewhere like for a job they would check white. White people are italians germans irish ect as black ppl are africans jamaicans ect. And even if a white or black isn't born in america when they come to america they would be considered just white or black. All whites are grouped into whites and all blacks are grouped into blacks. But if someones jamaican they can say they're jamaican and not african american. Its nothing difficult really.
brownskin_beauty

Houston, TX

#4 Dec 4, 2011
Technically he is African American, If he's a legal citizen then he's technically right. We are called African Americans, but its not truly accurate because many don't know where there ancestors were from it could've been haiti, or anywhere in the carribeans, but yea had a student from Africa in our class and she also checked african american, it probably because in America you're more represented by your nationality on paper, but your ethnicity from others
Mr History

Covington, KY

#5 Dec 4, 2011
brownskin_beauty wrote:
Technically he is African American, If he's a legal citizen then he's technically right. We are called African Americans, but its not truly accurate because many don't know where there ancestors were from it could've been haiti, or anywhere in the carribeans, but yea had a student from Africa in our class and she also checked african american, it probably because in America you're more represented by your nationality on paper, but your ethnicity from others
You are absolutely right, If you were born in Africa and came to the USA and got your citizenship you would be a African-American. Your children, born in the USA would be American and not African-American.
zzgg

Saint Louis, MO

#7 Dec 4, 2011
yes
forcetube

Irvine, CA

#8 Dec 4, 2011
the question is would this work the other way. could a black person born in Ireland be an Irish
American if he came to the U.S. Could a black born in China be a Chinese American. You cant have it both ways. now you know why AAs often refer to themselves as black.
STFU

UK

#10 Dec 4, 2011
He was calling himself European in Africa so thats a dumb question.
STFU

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#11 Dec 4, 2011
wojooiojjj wrote:
Hi - who is an African American? I heard a story recently:
"I know a white guy who was born and raised in Kenya. When he applied to Georgetown Law school back in the 1990s, he checked the box "African American", and he was admitted immediately. When they found out he was white they not only rescinded his admission, but they let the law schools know about it and he was black listed (no pun intended) and did not get into law school anywhere."
This is wrong, no? The guy was born and raised in Africa and then moved to America. He's African-American. He's not black but he didnt misrepresent himself technically.
Also, apparently there are White South Africans who call themselves African-American on the census ballot. Technically they are correct.
What do you guys think? Does African American mean just black people from Africa? Or are other races also African American if they were born and raised in Africa then moved to America>
Read the reply I gave above if you are not as stupid as you sound.

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#13 Dec 4, 2011
HARD ONE lol. He's european. If he was in africa, i would call him a european afrikan. Or a white afrikan. Just like how white people in Amerikkka calls black people ''Afrikan american'' and themselves americans because apparently they are more original to the country because of their ancestory and history.
White people in america = americans.
Black people in america = afrikan americans.
White people in Afrika= White/european afrikan
Black people in afrika=Afrikans
Get it? So he should of ticked ''white'' because its on the list!
White?
Black?
Asian?
Afrikan american
Italian american
Asian american?
European american?
The last category is puzzling though. If he ticked ''AA'' then he's correct. However if the list was like this...
White/south Afrikan
Black/south afrikan...
You know what??? My head! Lol
uno

Wilmington, OH

#16 Dec 4, 2011
Europian!
mofo this and mofo that

Durrington, UK

#17 Dec 4, 2011
HelloWorld3 wrote:
He's african not african american. African americans are blacks BORN in america. He wasn't born in america so he would just be african. If he's a white african he sould of checked white. He was probably confused that's why he checked african american. Being african and african american are two different things even though they may seem the same.
that is plain stupid. Africa is a big place with MILLIONS of whites, all over the North they are NOT negroes, then there are the whites in the South, who have been in Africa for centuries. We call you blacks or negroes. get used to it!
Mack

Altadena, CA

#19 Dec 4, 2011
forcetube wrote:
the question is would this work the other way. could a black person born in Ireland be an Irish
American if he came to the U.S. Could a black born in China be a Chinese American. You cant have it both ways. now you know why AAs often refer to themselves as black.
I can't argue with that, after rejecting the AA term to describe myself, always using Black.
Mr History

Covington, KY

#20 Dec 4, 2011
If you are born in the USA you are an American no matter where you came from or what color you are. That is the law in the USA. Each country has their own laws and policy concerning immigration and one has to obey the law of that country. If people come from Germany they are Germans. Once they receive their citizenship they then become German-American but their children born in the USA are American and not German American. If a person were born in Kenya, Africa it would be more correct to say that person was a Kenyan. Once he received his citizenship he would be a Kenyan-American. His children born in this country would be Americans. The problem with black people is that they don’t know what the hell country they came from in Africa or if they came from Africa. You understand Africa is a continent and not a country. Why black Americans want to refer to themselves as African-Americans is beyond me. White folks don’t want to refer to themselves as European-Americans. We are all Americans and that fact should give all of us some pride.

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#21 Dec 4, 2011
forcetube wrote:
the question is would this work the other way. could a black person born in Ireland be an Irish
American if he came to the U.S. Could a black born in China be a Chinese American. You cant have it both ways. now you know why AAs often refer to themselves as black.
Exactly. That's what some of the people in here don't get because they have limited thinking. He's a WHITE african so he would be considered white in ths us. Just as WHITE latinos are considered white when they apply to places. African americans means BLACKS in america. He's a WHITE african not a bLACK african. The black african would check african american the white one would check white. People think its because he's from africa that he would be considered african american and I get what they're saying but it doesn't work that way. White europeans aren't european american when they come to the us they're just WHITE.

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#22 Dec 4, 2011
so maybe the census should have the option of "black" - and no African-American as a choice because I know lots of "technical" AA who aren't black. I have friends who're of Indian-descent from the Maurutius (African island). And they get flack when they tick off "African American" even though they're technically right.

Also - the Georgetown Law School dude might've picked AA to take advantage of Affirmative Action policies - and that might be the big problem...

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#23 Dec 4, 2011
And this is why race is social not biological

The US has made a mess with the term race, ppl are so confused in this country when it comes to "race".

African Americans are that because they dnt knw where they came from, if you're born in nigeria and come here you would still be Nigerian not African american

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#24 Dec 4, 2011
Nigeria is in africa dumb ass. Majority of african americans DO come from africa. Whether they're from nigeria or ghana ect. You aren't black so you can't speak on it.

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#25 Dec 4, 2011
Mr History wrote:
If you are born in the USA you are an American no matter where you came from or what color you are. That is the law in the USA. Each country has their own laws and policy concerning immigration and one has to obey the law of that country. If people come from Germany they are Germans. Once they receive their citizenship they then become German-American but their children born in the USA are American and not German American. If a person were born in Kenya, Africa it would be more correct to say that person was a Kenyan. Once he received his citizenship he would be a Kenyan-American. His children born in this country would be Americans. The problem with black people is that they don’t know what the hell country they came from in Africa or if they came from Africa. You understand Africa is a continent and not a country. Why black Americans want to refer to themselves as African-Americans is beyond me. White folks don’t want to refer to themselves as European-Americans. We are all Americans and that fact should give all of us some pride.
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#26 Dec 4, 2011
My friends we met while in the military were also are next doer neighbors. The husband was born in Africa but his parents were American citizens. They moved back to the states of course. He is AA. He is white, but has duel citizenship. Not a big deal. If really want to know. He is more AA than most AA because they have never lived in the country nor have any of their parents grandparents great grandparents. Just saying.

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