AfricanAmericanA mbassador

Spring, TX

#85 Sep 19, 2012
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text> Since I am born here, I count myself as AA.
I dont have two Haitian parents, you do! That alone makes us different.

You have to have two AA parents in order to be AA.

All you are doing is pretending to be one of us and that isn't right. We dont pretend to be you, dont pretend to be us.
AfricanAmericanA mbassador

Spring, TX

#86 Sep 19, 2012
SOMOTEITBE wrote:
<quoted text>
1. This is an AA forum. Manipulation by comparison don't work with me. Existing from day to day is making a way and woe to those who just want to live day to day.
2. White customs. Bestiaity is on the increase among white society according to Governor Huckabee. By any means necessary or sleeping with the devil ain't AA's way. AA's used to believe a persons word was their bond and forked tongue was and still deception.
Take your Meds

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#87 Sep 19, 2012
PANMA19 wrote:
We have lost who we are and people try to instill, "Oh we're all mixed anyway, we are one and the same!" If that is so true why are we people at the bottom and going lower, why are we treated differently if we're mixed with Indian and white. Now I'm not denying we are mixed because we have been mixed from slavery but we shouldn't accept it.
Who's your God?
Who are you?
Where do you come from?
That is what I want to know.
The most important question is who is your God.
Do you know why? Do you know in some cultures it is the greatest sin to commit apostasy? for turning away from your God. It is a sin to people because it is a sin to God. In some cultures it is wrong to adopt a God. So who is your God? I wonder how he perceives us today: I mean we must be going against our old customs and traditions.
This ia a very strong post. I think it all began when we were stripped of our religion, culture and language, after being shipped to a foreign land. That has never happened to a group in history other than the African Americans.

The biggest crime the slave master did was not murders, rapes, and torture to the slaves. Taking away our religion, languge and tradition was. It has made it impossible for us to unite. This is what's causing African-Americans to do these crimes and sins to each other to this very day. Plus we lead in all the negative categories. That is the worst thing you can do to a people, and it was done on purpose. We will never be able to unite under this system. Dr. King tried and got killed. Malcolm X tried and got killed.

But in saying this, we are a very special people to still be here. America is now being punished for her sins against African- American. There has never been a more important time to unite as American-American, or what ever term you want to use. America knows she is on her death bed, and she doesn't have very good plans for people of color in her future. America don't even have good plans for her own people in the future. So you know we better wake up soon.

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#88 Sep 19, 2012
KPITRL wrote:
<quoted text>
This ia a very strong post. I think it all began when we were stripped of our religion, culture and language, after being shipped to a foreign land. That has never happened to a group in history other than the African Americans.
The biggest crime the slave master did was not murders, rapes, and torture to the slaves. Taking away our religion, languge and tradition was. It has made it impossible for us to unite. This is what's causing African-Americans to do these crimes and sins to each other to this very day. Plus we lead in all the negative categories. That is the worst thing you can do to a people, and it was done on purpose. We will never be able to unite under this system. Dr. King tried and got killed. Malcolm X tried and got killed.
But in saying this, we are a very special people to still be here. America is now being punished for her sins against African- American. There has never been a more important time to unite as American-American, or what ever term you want to use. America knows she is on her death bed, and she doesn't have very good plans for people of color in her future. America don't even have good plans for her own people in the future. So you know we better wake up soon.
I agree with you. I wonder what will it take for others to agree as well?

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#89 Sep 19, 2012
KPITRL wrote:
<quoted text>
This ia a very strong post. I think it all began when we were stripped of our religion, culture and language, after being shipped to a foreign land. That has never happened to a group in history other than the African Americans.
The biggest crime the slave master did was not murders, rapes, and torture to the slaves. Taking away our religion, languge and tradition was. It has made it impossible for us to unite. This is what's causing African-Americans to do these crimes and sins to each other to this very day. Plus we lead in all the negative categories. That is the worst thing you can do to a people, and it was done on purpose. We will never be able to unite under this system. Dr. King tried and got killed. Malcolm X tried and got killed.
But in saying this, we are a very special people to still be here. America is now being punished for her sins against African- American. There has never been a more important time to unite as American-American, or what ever term you want to use. America knows she is on her death bed, and she doesn't have very good plans for people of color in her future. America don't even have good plans for her own people in the future. So you know we better wake up soon.
I concur, this thread is an eye opener and your post is on time with a capital "T".
AfricanAmericanA mbassador

Spring, TX

#91 Sep 19, 2012
KPITRL wrote:
<quoted text>But in saying this, we are a very special people to still be here. America is now being punished for her sins against African- American. There has never been a more important time to unite as American-American, or what ever term you want to use. America knows she is on her death bed, and she doesn't have very good plans for people of color in her future. America don't even have good plans for her own people in the future. So you know we better wake up soon.
That I agree with. ONLY if it benefits AAs!
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#93 Sep 19, 2012
PANMA19 wrote:
A majority of black men and women alike have lost their identities.
The bad thing is we do not seem to notice or care
The worst thing is a majority of us(I think) do not care
We do not pay heed
We do not listen
We lack a leader because we all want to be leaders
What we need I think is for someone to put us in our rightful place and how does that start?
First step: Correction: we need someone to tell us the error of our ways
Second step: we black people need to acknowledge the error of our ways
Third step: take the initiative to do what is best rather than what we want
For our future generation.
P.S my thoughts.
Many of us are adults. We have adult concerns and prefer to be responsible like all adults. Not everyone feels a need to be led around like a child.

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#95 Sep 19, 2012
KIP wrote:
<quoted text>
Many of us are adults. We have adult concerns and prefer to be responsible like all adults. Not everyone feels a need to be led around like a child.
Of course, Kip. Sorry I bothered.
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#96 Sep 19, 2012
PANMA19 wrote:
<quoted text>Of course, Kip. Sorry I bothered.
All I'm saying is that there ARE many of us who are not doing so bad. The notion that we as a people need to "be put in our place" is a bit condescending. What place is that? Do we all belong in the same place?

No harm meant, nevertheless.

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#97 Sep 19, 2012
KIP wrote:
<quoted text>
All I'm saying is that there ARE many of us who are not doing so bad. The notion that we as a people need to "be put in our place" is a bit condescending. What place is that? Do we all belong in the same place?
No harm meant, nevertheless.
Hmm... As long as we lack an identity we will never be"doing well" because let me ask you this... Doing well for what? The life we are living? What life I might ask..what is the point of living when you have no idea of who you are or where you will go back to? We lack our old traditions and customs and therefore we do not have a relationship with our God not the God we adopted, our God. We have no idea how to contact our God to lead us to a better place than this. And you say some black people "aren't doing so bad" well as longs as have no idea from whence we came we will always in a bad condition because for all you know we could be breaking a commandment or law that we were forbidden to disobey.

P.S my thoughts

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#98 Sep 19, 2012
Many of us missed the point of the title and many of us have addressed the title.

There are several types of identities.

1. Religious
2. Educational
3. Social
4. Employment
5. Culture
6. Personal

Some of us referred to our social identity, American. Others referred to religion, God. A few mentioned employment, education and personal identity ie grown.

The thread didn't ask about all that. The thread asked about the culture identity, AA people!

Who are we as a people? Is our concept of identity based upon our achievements,
our possessions, our mortal values and those things which can be lost, stolen or based upon changing fads and opinions. Maybe our concept is based upon skill and abilities whereas if faced lifes ups and downs, we're still confident in our abilities or skills to recoup and keep moving forward progressively.

Of course, this is just another avenue in the road atlas called identity.

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louisiana

#99 Sep 19, 2012
PANMA19 wrote:
<quoted text>Hmm... As long as we lack an identity we will never be"doing well" because let me ask you this... Doing well for what? The life we are living? What life I might ask..what is the point of living when you have no idea of who you are or where you will go back to? We lack our old traditions and customs and therefore we do not have a relationship with our God not the God we adopted, our God. We have no idea how to contact our God to lead us to a better place than this. And you say some black people "aren't doing so bad" well as longs as have no idea from whence we came we will always in a bad condition because for all you know we could be breaking a commandment or law that we were forbidden to disobey.
P.S my thoughts
you are an african trolling as a blk american.

no blk american worries about their identity whether they should or not!

quit trolling.
Anonymous

Powder Springs, GA

#100 Sep 19, 2012
Black people as of now feel no need to reclaim an identity regardless of how beneficial it would be for them to do so. Until black people realize the reality or their situation, which involves dismal demographics and a need for unity, they will simply continue with thier lives. This realization may not come to pass until years from now. Something BIG must happen if blacks are to ever decide to come together to collectively improve themselves any time soon.
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#101 Sep 19, 2012
PANMA19 wrote:
<quoted text>Hmm... As long as we lack an identity we will never be"doing well" because let me ask you this... Doing well for what? The life we are living? What life I might ask..what is the point of living when you have no idea of who you are or where you will go back to? We lack our old traditions and customs and therefore we do not have a relationship with our God not the God we adopted, our God. We have no idea how to contact our God to lead us to a better place than this. And you say some black people "aren't doing so bad" well as longs as have no idea from whence we came we will always in a bad condition because for all you know we could be breaking a commandment or law that we were forbidden to disobey.
P.S my thoughts
Why do you feel this way?

The idea that you think there are dueling Gods for black people is kind of disturbing. If you don't know what God we're supposed to contact or who he/it really is, then how how do you know it ever existed in the first place? If this God had a divine law specifically meant for us, then how come it wasn't significant enough to have been preserved? All the other mystical entities of our past have survived. How come there is no recognition of this particular God? I'm not sure I get you there.

I don't think we are as bad off as you might believe. My mother used to think that way -- that "we are all just so pitiful". I think this mindset is attained over time by some. They eventually get conditioned to believe that all is lost, because of the actions of the few. I'm an optimist I guess. I don't think better things are beyond our grasp. Identity? One must know themself first. Then they can venture into the collective reasoning of race identity if they choose. Me? I know who I am. Not everyone likes who I am, but I am what I am, and I am happy with that (laughs). That's all that really matters. You cannot really take care of everyone else. Be the beacon yourself and make it shine. As for old traditions, well they are OLD. Many of them are outdated. It's good to respect and understand them, but looking forward to the future and maintaining the ability to be flexible for change can be more important.

Keep your head held high and keep on truckin'. It's not always as bleak as you may think.

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#102 Sep 19, 2012
dragonpat wrote:
<quoted text>
you are an african trolling as a blk american.
no blk american worries about their identity whether they should or not!
quit trolling.
Actually I am an African(American) but I do not like or accept the title.

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#103 Sep 19, 2012
KIP wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you feel this way?
The idea that you think there are dueling Gods for black people is kind of disturbing. If you don't know what God we're supposed to contact or who he/it really is, then how how do you know it ever existed in the first place? If this God had a divine law specifically meant for us, then how come it wasn't significant enough to have been preserved? All the other mystical entities of our past have survived. How come there is no recognition of this particular God? I'm not sure I get you there.
I don't think we are as bad off as you might believe. My mother used to think that way -- that "we are all just so pitiful". I think this mindset is attained over time by some. They eventually get conditioned to believe that all is lost, because of the actions of the few. I'm an optimist I guess. I don't think better things are beyond our grasp. Identity? One must know themself first. Then they can venture into the collective reasoning of race identity if they choose. Me? I know who I am. Not everyone likes who I am, but I am what I am, and I am happy with that (laughs). That's all that really matters. You cannot really take care of everyone else. Be the beacon yourself and make it shine. As for old traditions, well they are OLD. Many of them are outdated. It's good to respect and understand them, but looking forward to the future and maintaining the ability to be flexible for change can be more important.
Keep your head held high and keep on truckin'. It's not always as bleak as you may think.
Why do I feel this way?

Let me ask you a question, Kip. Well a few.

Who is your God?(original God)
Who are you?(or who were you?)
What are(what use to be) your customs and traditions that you kept for a specific reason?
Where did you come from in Africa?
Who are your forefathers?

I bet you can not answer
But let me guess, you do not have to because you are African(American). If your ancestors were brought here against their will on slave ships then you are not African American.

And yes I believe there is a specific God for every race on this planet.
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#104 Sep 19, 2012
PANMA19 wrote:
<quoted text> Why do I feel this way?
Let me ask you a question, Kip. Well a few.
Who is your God?(original God)
Who are you?(or who were you?)
What are(what use to be) your customs and traditions that you kept for a specific reason?
Where did you come from in Africa?
Who are your forefathers?
I bet you can not answer
But let me guess, you do not have to because you are African(American). If your ancestors were brought here against their will on slave ships then you are not African American.
And yes I believe there is a specific God for every race on this planet.
"And yes I believe there is a specific God for every race on this planet."

A specific god for every race? Isn't this what got a lot of people in trouble in the first place? I mean why stop at race when it comes to god(s). I'm a left handed, tall, honest man. Not everyone black is tall, left-handed, and honest. Where's MY god? Can I have one? Race is a social construct. It should be difficult to conceive of a god for that, but men have created gods for just about everything. What you're essentially saying is that race itself is a form of religion. However, it's of this world, so it's really of the flesh. The race in itself has nothing to do with the person's spirit or self. When you die nobody is going to bother with how black or white you were. They will DEFINITELY recall WHO you were and HOW you live and WHAT you did. This concept transcends all ideas of race.

My God? I'm a Christian by choice. It's how I was raised. I looked at other things, but Christianity for me is the only thing that makes sense. Grace, mercy, forgiveness-- you can't really beat those in a Christian context if you understand them. They are why I don't bother myself with any other interpretation of God.

Who am I? I am a guy who has spent a lot of time thinking about the world and the people in it. I'm a man who has studied the great English authors and early American writers. I like literature and schools of thought. I will agree that much of this has helped shape who I am. I am a man who prides himself on sincerity and fairness. I don't ask from others what I am not willing to give in return. I treat people how I want to be treated. As for my place, I understand it in the context of nature. I am a man first and foremost.

Where did I come from in Africa? I don't know. I know about my parents, grandparents, and great grandparents one of whom is native American on my father's side. It has been many generations since the African slave trade. I know about the history of domestic servitude on my mother's side. I also have pictures of them during the 1930's in front of a little shack of a home when they picked cotton in rural Mississippi. There's the tradition of men working on railroads on my father's side in America too. I have one picture, but it stops there.

I know about the history, but I don't live or speak under the identity of any African flag. I have never paid taxes to any African government. I know of and speak to African immigrants here, but to them it's obvious I'm as American as apple pie. They are fine with that, as I'm fine with them being African. History happened to us as it has to many people all over the world. With that said, I cannot recall all of my forefathers. I'm sure I could if I tried with today's technology and speaking to older relatives, however.

Overall, I know from where I came. I know enough to move ahead. Many people in the world have no where near as much as I have in historical family knowledge and are still thriving. Quite frankly, with what little I have I already feel spoiled.

How about you?

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#105 Sep 19, 2012
KIP wrote:
<quoted text>
"And yes I believe there is a specific God for every race on this planet."
A specific god for every race? Isn't this what got a lot of people in trouble in the first place? I mean why stop at race when it comes to god(s). I'm a left handed, tall, honest man. Not everyone black is tall, left-handed, and honest. Where's MY god? Can I have one? Race is a social construct. It should be difficult to conceive of a god for that, but men have created gods for just about everything. What you're essentially saying is that race itself is a form of religion. However, it's of this world, so it's really of the flesh. The race in itself has nothing to do with the person's spirit or self. When you die nobody is going to bother with how black or white you were. They will DEFINITELY recall WHO you were and HOW you live and WHAT you did. This concept transcends all ideas of race.
My God? I'm a Christian by choice. It's how I was raised. I looked at other things, but Christianity for me is the only thing that makes sense. Grace, mercy, forgiveness-- you can't really beat those in a Christian context if you understand them. They are why I don't bother myself with any other interpretation of God.
Who am I? I am a guy who has spent a lot of time thinking about the world and the people in it. I'm a man who has studied the great English authors and early American writers. I like literature and schools of thought. I will agree that much of this has helped shape who I am. I am a man who prides himself on sincerity and fairness. I don't ask from others what I am not willing to give in return. I treat people how I want to be treated. As for my place, I understand it in the context of nature. I am a man first and foremost.
Where did I come from in Africa? I don't know. I know about my parents, grandparents, and great grandparents one of whom is native American on my father's side. It has been many generations since the African slave trade. I know about the history of domestic servitude on my mother's side. I also have pictures of them during the 1930's in front of a little shack of a home when they picked cotton in rural Mississippi. There's the tradition of men working on railroads on my father's side in America too. I have one picture, but it stops there.
I know about the history, but I don't live or speak under the identity of any African flag. I have never paid taxes to any African government. I know of and speak to African immigrants here, but to them it's obvious I'm as American as apple pie. They are fine with that, as I'm fine with them being African. History happened to us as it has to many people all over the world. With that said, I cannot recall all of my forefathers. I'm sure I could if I tried with today's technology and speaking to older relatives, however.
Overall, I know from where I came. I know enough to move ahead. Many people in the world have no where near as much as I have in historical family knowledge and are still thriving. Quite frankly, with what little I have I already feel spoiled.
How about you?
Okay, Kip.

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#106 Sep 19, 2012
People still talking about their religious, professional, social and personal identity with little or no comments about AA culture identity.

That is what I was saying earlier. We are wrapped up into individualism so much and can't see anyrhimg except me, me, me and personal identity.

Our cultural identity is a foreign concept and lost in space.

AA HAVE THE NERVE TO SAY UNITY WHEN WE DON'T REALIZE UNITY INVOLVES CULTURAL IDENTITY

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#107 Sep 19, 2012
Bm killing bm = wm do it too
Bw abortions = ww do it too

Bm deadbeats = wm do it too
Bw deadbeats = ww do it too

Bm slinging dope = wm do it too
Bw slinging dope = ww do it too

White people do not have a culture, they picked up a pinch here, a dab there, a smigging and a touch wherever they could find it. There goes the AA, throwing away our cultural identity for white people do it too. No wonder AA's fall apart for everything and can't stand together for anything.

NO CULTURAL IDENTITY

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