BIRACIALS are not black and don't loo...
ashanti king

United States

#1113 Dec 7, 2012
Shalimarr wrote:
<quoted text>How can a person who is half white, suckled at a white woman's teet and was raised by a white woman share your culture and your identity?
It would make more sense if you were saying that biracials born to black women and raised by black women shared your culture though not your race or identity.
Why do you fight change? Why do you want these white women's kids so much?
It seems to me that it is you and few others get the idea of ethnicity and race.

A biracial is not black but can be aa, Caribbean, African and so on.

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#1114 Dec 7, 2012
Shalimarr wrote:
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Nobody's talking about rejecting anyone.
Why do you claim the daughter's of white women are black?
Just because someone has w black father, if that person is born to and raised by a white woman and is accepted as black, what does that say about your culture?
What is AA culture if people born to white women and raised in a white woman's ways, can be fully part of AA culture?
What is the qualification to be raised in your culture if you cab be a white woman's kid?
you keep on missing the point.'black' in america is a lot more than just race. it's an ethnicity, identity, culture history and community.
and you didn't answer my question bout biracial and heavily mixed aa icons. do you all the sudden cross them out as aa?

would you remove adam clayton powell and thurgood marshal from the list of prominent aa historical figures? what bout obama?

you're trying to argue against an identity that goes back hundreds of years. and is literally in the dna of most aa alive, today.

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#1115 Dec 7, 2012
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
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you keep on missing the point.'black' in america is a lot more than just race. it's an ethnicity, identity, culture history and community.
and you didn't answer my question bout biracial and heavily mixed aa icons. do you all the sudden cross them out as aa?
would you remove adam clayton powell and thurgood marshal from the list of prominent aa historical figures? what bout obama?
you're trying to argue against an identity that goes back hundreds of years. and is literally in the dna of most aa alive, today.
If the white woman abandons her child, as they often do and the kid is raised by the black dad or black paternal grandparents, then that biracial is being raised in your culture, but it is still half white and not a black person.
You can accept someone's contribution without laying claim to it or trying to hijack another groups achievement... Barack Obama is a biracial who has risen to be president of the USA, rosa Parks was a biracial who fought against racism... these people's achievements belong to biracials, not blacks... though blacks should remain greatful if biracials have helped them in the past.

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#1116 Dec 7, 2012
ashanti king wrote:
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It seems to me that it is you and few others get the idea of ethnicity and race.
A biracial is not black but can be aa, Caribbean, African and so on.
These people who cling to biracials, are just cowards who are afriad to stand on their own two feet.
They would rather judge us by the decisions made by Southern Slave owners!
Sad.

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#1117 Dec 7, 2012
Shalimarr wrote:
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If the white woman abandons her child, as they often do and the kid is raised by the black dad or black paternal grandparents, then that biracial is being raised in your culture, but it is still half white and not a black person.
You can accept someone's contribution without laying claim to it or trying to hijack another groups achievement... Barack Obama is a biracial who has risen to be president of the USA, rosa Parks was a biracial who fought against racism... these people's achievements belong to biracials, not blacks... though blacks should remain greatful if biracials have helped them in the past.
so you would cross out the contributions of biracials and heavily mixed aa from the 'aa' column. even though all these people self-identify as 'black', as does the entire country. you'd essentially rewrite the history books and divide the community.

you can be sure no aa would be insane enough to go for something so obviously against their own self-interest. as this would be the process: cross out shared history; cross out ethnicity; cross out culture ; cross out identity; cross out community; even cross out family and only consider race.

black = aa = ethnicity in america. there's much more to ethnicity than just a strict definition of race. so when in rome...
Bigsmoke

Farnham, UK

#1118 Dec 7, 2012
You guys still acting as though racial groups are not social constructs?

Get it through your skulls; nobody can claim to be right or wrong in regards to what race somebody is. There is no biological test or classification for one to base their claim on let alone claim to be right while calling others wrong.

What the USA may call black the UK may call mixed race and Brazil call brown. No one is right or wrong.

Get over it already, making things which are so trivial deeper than it actually is.
lol

Fairfield, CA

#1119 Dec 7, 2012
The answer to the question is yes 100%they might BE lighter, but still have ape like features.

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#1120 Dec 7, 2012
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
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so you would cross out the contributions of biracials and heavily mixed aa from the 'aa' column. even though all these people self-identify as 'black', as does the entire country. you'd essentially rewrite the history books and divide the community.
you can be sure no aa would be insane enough to go for something so obviously against their own self-interest. as this would be the process: cross out shared history; cross out ethnicity; cross out culture ; cross out identity; cross out community; even cross out family and only consider race.
black = aa = ethnicity in america. there's much more to ethnicity than just a strict definition of race. so when in rome...
I'm not trying to change how people live 6000 miles away.
You guys a re 60 years behind Caribbeans and all slave descendents who were "owned" by the British.
We have had freedom for 60 years longer than you guys... that's 3 generations that we were free while AAs were still enslaved and then you guys had 40 years of being dragged from your beds and lynched by whites... In the Caribbean we were poor after we were free, but we were not being murdered by whites.
Well within 60 years you guys will stop defining yourselves by former slave owners one drop rules and you will let go of white people's children :)
It's called progress, you people will catch up eventually :)

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#1121 Dec 7, 2012
Bigsmoke wrote:
You guys still acting as though racial groups are not social constructs?
Get it through your skulls; nobody can claim to be right or wrong in regards to what race somebody is. There is no biological test or classification for one to base their claim on let alone claim to be right while calling others wrong.
What the USA may call black the UK may call mixed race and Brazil call brown. No one is right or wrong.
Get over it already, making things which are so trivial deeper than it actually is.
Take your arrogant arse off this thread. no one invited you, if the topic doesn't interest you, don't click the link.
Bigsmoke

Farnham, UK

#1122 Dec 7, 2012
Shalimarr wrote:
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I'm not trying to change how people live 6000 miles away.
You guys a re 60 years behind Caribbeans and all slave descendents who were "owned" by the British.
We have had freedom for 60 years longer than you guys... that's 3 generations that we were free while AAs were still enslaved and then you guys had 40 years of being dragged from your beds and lynched by whites... In the Caribbean we were poor after we were free, but we were not being murdered by whites.
Well within 60 years you guys will stop defining yourselves by former slave owners one drop rules and you will let go of white people's children :)
It's called progress, you people will catch up eventually :)
Well the ''black'' race was created/defined by English slavers. Last time I checked you call yourself black and I'm sure somewhere down the line an ancestor of your was the child of a ''white'' person.

So what was your point again?
Bigsmoke

Farnham, UK

#1123 Dec 7, 2012
Shalimarr wrote:
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Take your arrogant arse off this thread. no one invited you, if the topic doesn't interest you, don't click the link.
Does it look like anybody posted in this thread through invitation?

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#1124 Dec 7, 2012
Shalimarr wrote:
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I'm not trying to change how people live 6000 miles away.
You guys a re 60 years behind Caribbeans and all slave descendents who were "owned" by the British.
We have had freedom for 60 years longer than you guys... that's 3 generations that we were free while AAs were still enslaved and then you guys had 40 years of being dragged from your beds and lynched by whites... In the Caribbean we were poor after we were free, but we were not being murdered by whites.
Well within 60 years you guys will stop defining yourselves by former slave owners one drop rules and you will let go of white people's children :)
It's called progress, you people will catch up eventually :)
aa are their own community. the only point your making is you don't understand the aa community.
Vynessa

Ajax, Canada

#1125 Dec 7, 2012
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
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'black' is an ethnicity in america. it's defined as much by culture and identity as it is race.
Well if that's the case then the same should apply to 'white' or 'Asian'. Furthermore, based on your point, a biracial person who was raised in a predominantly white community and identifies with white culture should have just as much right to identify him/herself as white as they do black. But whites don't play that now do they. Whites and other non-blacks do not claim biracials and in doing so receive no backlash. But suddenly when blacks decide not to claim biracials people want to get all technical and redefine "blackness". Please.

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#1126 Dec 7, 2012
Vynessa wrote:
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Well if that's the case then the same should apply to 'white' or 'Asian'. Furthermore, based on your point, a biracial person who was raised in a predominantly white community and identifies with white culture should have just as much right to identify him/herself as white as they do black. But whites don't play that now do they. Whites and other non-blacks do not claim biracials and in doing so receive no backlash. But suddenly when blacks decide not to claim biracials people want to get all technical and redefine "blackness". Please.
you can claim who you want. just remember you opinion has nothing to do with aa and how they perceive the world, and define their community.
you should remember that biracials are thought of as black/aa because they've always been thought of as black/aa for hundreds of years. identity is part of what makes up ones ethnicity. and once established these things are unlikely to change.

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#1127 Dec 7, 2012
Bigsmoke wrote:
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Well the ''black'' race was created/defined by English slavers. Last time I checked you call yourself black and I'm sure somewhere down the line an ancestor of your was the child of a ''white'' person.
So what was your point again?
Why did you post that Freddie's generation had let you down by making so many mixed race children... why did you say there wasn't enough black women of your age in East london and that you were surrounded by biracials?
Why did you say that if you don't differentiate?

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#1128 Dec 7, 2012
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
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aa are their own community. the only point your making is you don't understand the aa community.
Biracials will soon have their own classification in America.
just as they have seen to it that they have everywhere else.
They have never allowed blacks to stand in their way.
Bigsmoke

Farnham, UK

#1129 Dec 7, 2012
Shalimarr wrote:
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Why did you post that Freddie's generation had let you down by making so many mixed race children... why did you say there wasn't enough black women of your age in East london and that you were surrounded by biracials?
Why did you say that if you don't differentiate?
Why didn't you answer my question?

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#1130 Dec 7, 2012
Shalimarr wrote:
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Biracials will soon have their own classification in America.
just as they have seen to it that they have everywhere else.
They have never allowed blacks to stand in their way.
no one is standing in their way, and especially not 'blacks'. and biracials can already self-identify as such on the census.

ppl naturally attach themselves to a community and this is all biracials are doing (for those biracials who do) when they self-identify as black/aa.

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#1131 Dec 7, 2012
Bigsmoke wrote:
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Why didn't you answer my question?
You are a man who posted about how much you were into black women and their shape and everything about them.
then you posted that a white girl "stared at you" so you felt you had no choice but to bow down and ask for her number, like a good little negoe.
now here you are saying race doesn't matter and biracials are black... your new girl got you trained fast!
Fck off Smokey.
Bigsmoke

Farnham, UK

#1132 Dec 7, 2012
Shalimarr wrote:
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You are a man who posted about how much you were into black women and their shape and everything about them.
then you posted that a white girl "stared at you" so you felt you had no choice but to bow down and ask for her number, like a good little negoe.
now here you are saying race doesn't matter and biracials are black... your new girl got you trained fast!
Fck off Smokey.
Why do you still refuse to answer my question?

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