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#661 Feb 7, 2013
LOL The Cro-Magnon did NOT come from neither a European or Asian line.
jimmy

Dudley, UK

#662 Feb 7, 2013
Look at this wrote:
Since y'all on here are focus on hating white people and white people think we came from Europe, please explain to me about the Berbers, an indiginous African group from North Africa, who look white with blonde hair and everything...
Race is stupid...essentially we are all the same. So y'all who are saying white are this and that your dissing your African brothers and sisters "the berbers." So Black and White supremest explain this one...
Here is proof
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berber_people
Berbers arent aborigines to africa!Ask any algerian historian and he/she will tell you that the north was originallt occupied by black africans!
jimmy

Dudley, UK

#663 Feb 7, 2013
read
the north of africa
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#664 Feb 7, 2013
Redefined wrote:
LOL The Cro-Magnon did NOT come from neither a European or Asian line.
He came from a Eurasian line and he carried haplogroup I which is a European marker NOT common in black Africans. And light skinned arose in Eurasian people soon after they migrated out of tropical regions with High Ultra Violet Radiation to None Tropical regions with Low Ultra Violet radiation where light skinned was more cohesive for survival over black skinned. Even today blacks who live in regions with Low Ultra Violet radiation have more illnesses then whites do. That's all due to human evolution.

"Over the last 50,000 years, populations have gone from dark pigmented to lighter skin, and people have also gone the other way, from light skin back to darker skin. People (Dravidian) living now in southern parts of India [and Sri Lanka] are extremely darkly pigmented. But their great, great ancestors lived much farther north, and when they migrated south, their pigmentation redarkened. There has probably been a redarkening of several groups of humans." ~ Jablonski

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#665 Feb 11, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
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We cannot trust depictions from realhistory.com either! Afronazis are known to darken Egyptian pictures and otherwise manipulate them to make non-blacks look black.
to discuss this, let's see evidence from a reliable academic source.
OK you want a more reliable source well here it is

1.Gerald Massey (29 May 1828 – 29 October 1907)

Gerald Massey, English writer and author of the book, Egypt the Light of the World, wrote:

"The dignity is so ancient that the insignia of the Pharaoh evidently belonged to the time when Egyptians wore nothing but the girdle of the Negro." (p 251)

2. Sir Richard Francis Burton, a 19th century English explorer, writer and linguist in 1883 wrote to Gerald Massey:

"You are quite right about the "AFRICAN" origin of the Egyptians. I have 100 human skulls to prove it."

Mummy found in Egypt of a negro Nubian
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpr...

Another comparison modern and old Egyptians
http://i43.tinypic.com/dy20it.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/2zxnnex.jpg

Many Ancient Egyptians
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p_lUMBr...

Sorry none of those artifacts were darkened ALL 100% REAL
Barros Serrano

United States

#666 Feb 11, 2013
Clearly light skin had evolved much earlier than 6000 years ago, as Afronazi racist lowlife subhumans believe...

Eurasians closely related to Cro-Magnon were in the Maghreb by 30k years ago... and look at the color of the Berbers, the Guanches, the depictions by ancients of the people of the Maghreb...

Quite light-skinned. This alone debunks several Afronazi racist myths.

And of course ALL Afronazi nonsense bites the dust before the hard facts, evidence, history, science...

And the words of wisdom of Barros Serrano.

Kiss my ass.
asnay

Sims, NC

#669 Feb 28, 2013
im berber we are african u dumb uck

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#670 Feb 28, 2013
asnay wrote:
im berber we are african u dumb uck
if you are black berber you are crearly african
if you are white bereber go search your roots

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#671 Feb 28, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
Clearly light skin had evolved much earlier than 6000 years ago, as Afronazi racist lowlife subhumans believe...
Eurasians closely related to Cro-Magnon were in the Maghreb by 30k years ago... and look at the color of the Berbers, the Guanches, the depictions by ancients of the people of the Maghreb...
Quite light-skinned. This alone debunks several Afronazi racist myths.
And of course ALL Afronazi nonsense bites the dust before the hard facts, evidence, history, science...
And the words of wisdom of Barros Serrano.
Kiss my ass.
but we only find a frequency of bout 6% cro-magnon dna, on the maternal side, and nothing on the paternal side. so how are todays berbers related to cro-magnon?

on the ydna side, algerian and moroccan berbers are overwhelmingly e1b1, mostly M81, with bout 7% e1b1a. with the rest being mostly J1 and J2, that came in with the arabs.

there also seems to have been are relatively large J2 migration into the country of libya, maybe from anatolia during ancient times. this could be why some ancient egyptian depictions of libyans, have them as an asiatic looking people.

i think the western sahara was dominated by e1b1a types. when the sahara dried up, most e1b1a groups migrated further south, while at the same time M81 populations migrated outta the nile region and traveled the mediterranean coastline westward.

when josephus tells us that the original inhabitants of 'libya', meaning in this case all of north africa, west of the nile. was 'phut', son of ham. i don't think he was talk'n bout cro-magnons.

i'm pretty sure he was referring to the e1b1a groups who dominated the area before major desertification set in.

you should know that berbers today are mostly black african e1b1(a,b) on the paternal side, and european/near eastern mixtures on the maternal side.

or in other words, todays northwest africa is mostly the product of black masters, and white female slaves. there was a steady of of ww into north africa when the moors ruled for hundreds of years.


http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#672 Feb 28, 2013
Redefined wrote:
LOL The Cro-Magnon did NOT come from neither a European or Asian line.
Wrong again, boy.

Cro-Magnon was of Y-type I, daughter of IJ, from the Mideast. Cro-Magnon descended from OOA migrants.

Cro-Magnon was 100% EURASIAN. This is well proven.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#673 Feb 28, 2013
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
<quoted text>
but we only find a frequency of bout 6% cro-magnon dna, on the maternal side, and nothing on the paternal side. so how are todays berbers related to cro-magnon?
on the ydna side, algerian and moroccan berbers are overwhelmingly e1b1, mostly M81, with bout 7% e1b1a. with the rest being mostly J1 and J2, that came in with the arabs.
there also seems to have been are relatively large J2 migration into the country of libya, maybe from anatolia during ancient times. this could be why some ancient egyptian depictions of libyans, have them as an asiatic looking people.
i think the western sahara was dominated by e1b1a types. when the sahara dried up, most e1b1a groups migrated further south, while at the same time M81 populations migrated outta the nile region and traveled the mediterranean coastline westward.
when josephus tells us that the original inhabitants of 'libya', meaning in this case all of north africa, west of the nile. was 'phut', son of ham. i don't think he was talk'n bout cro-magnons.
i'm pretty sure he was referring to the e1b1a groups who dominated the area before major desertification set in.
you should know that berbers today are mostly black african e1b1(a,b) on the paternal side, and european/near eastern mixtures on the maternal side.
or in other words, todays northwest africa is mostly the product of black masters, and white female slaves. there was a steady of of ww into north africa when the moors ruled for hundreds of years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =oYEuMTPtqxUXX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Maternal DNA of the Berbers is overwhelmingly Eurasian. Not Cro-Magnon I. Mostly Mideastern J.

Those are not female slaves of black masters, you pervert. I'm sure you wank nightly to fantasies of blackamoors raping pearly-bottomed slave girls, but that is not the explanation for the Maghreb's population.

The ORIGINAL Maghrebians of that population were the migrants from the Mideast 30,000 years ago, but there were other migrations which added to the population, mostly also from the Mideast, some from northeast Africa, and some from Europe. The population has remained throughout mostly of Eurasian ancestry. There is no denying this. DNA from remains of ANY date over the past 30k years show pure or predominant Eurasian types. There is no disputing this. It is solid fact.

Speaking of ancient “Libyans” clarifies nothing. Along the coast they were Eurasian Berber types, in the south they were black. You Afronazis love to confuse these, pretending that rock paintings in the south were made by Berbers, and so on.

Your RACISM will not be tolerated, boy! In person I will slap it out of you, that is a promise. You pretend that the entire Maghrebian population disappeared to make way for blackamoors with white slave girls? LOL!!!

In your dreams, racist pervert.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#674 Feb 28, 2013
TRUTH HITMAN IS BACK wrote:
<quoted text>
OK you want a more reliable source well here it is
1.Gerald Massey (29 May 1828 – 29 October 1907)
Gerald Massey, English writer and author of the book, Egypt the Light of the World, wrote:
"The dignity is so ancient that the insignia of the Pharaoh evidently belonged to the time when Egyptians wore nothing but the girdle of the Negro." (p 251)
2. Sir Richard Francis Burton, a 19th century English explorer, writer and linguist in 1883 wrote to Gerald Massey:
"You are quite right about the "AFRICAN" origin of the Egyptians. I have 100 human skulls to prove it."
Mummy found in Egypt of a negro Nubian
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpr...
Another comparison modern and old Egyptians
http://i43.tinypic.com/dy20it.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/2zxnnex.jpg
Many Ancient Egyptians
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p_lUMBr...
Sorry none of those artifacts were darkened ALL 100% REAL
You're confused.

Several things are true:

Egyptian civilization evolved in Upper Egypt among “black” people.

Afronazis have repeatedly altered photographs of Egyptian art to make them “more black”.

The FACTS about Egypt have nothing to do with what Afronazis believe. You idiots believe EVERYWHERE was black, and so your opinions are worthless.

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#675 Feb 28, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
Maternal DNA of the Berbers is overwhelmingly Eurasian. Not Cro-Magnon I. Mostly Mideastern J.
Those are not female slaves of black masters, you pervert. I'm sure you wank nightly to fantasies of blackamoors raping pearly-bottomed slave girls, but that is not the explanation for the Maghreb's population.
The ORIGINAL Maghrebians of that population were the migrants from the Mideast 30,000 years ago, but there were other migrations which added to the population, mostly also from the Mideast, some from northeast Africa, and some from Europe. The population has remained throughout mostly of Eurasian ancestry. There is no denying this. DNA from remains of ANY date over the past 30k years show pure or predominant Eurasian types. There is no disputing this. It is solid fact.
Speaking of ancient “Libyans” clarifies nothing. Along the coast they were Eurasian Berber types, in the south they were black. You Afronazis love to confuse these, pretending that rock paintings in the south were made by Berbers, and so on.
Your RACISM will not be tolerated, boy! In person I will slap it out of you, that is a promise. You pretend that the entire Maghrebian population disappeared to make way for blackamoors with white slave girls? LOL!!!
In your dreams, racist pervert.
sorry b, but maybe you should consult your favorite source - genetic studies.

the dominant ydna berber group is black african M81, which is less than 6,000 years old. J2 is a a distant 2nd, which mostly comes from arab admixture, and e1b1a is 3rd, which has always been in north africa.

on the maternal side berbers are overwhelmingly eurasian. and it doesn't take a PhD in history to know why.
berbers started off black, and over many hundreds of years, mixed into the people they are today.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#676 Feb 28, 2013
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
<quoted text>
sorry b, but maybe you should consult your favorite source - genetic studies.
the dominant ydna berber group is black african M81, which is less than 6,000 years old. J2 is a a distant 2nd, which mostly comes from arab admixture, and e1b1a is 3rd, which has always been in north africa.
on the maternal side berbers are overwhelmingly eurasian. and it doesn't take a PhD in history to know why.
berbers started off black, and over many hundreds of years, mixed into the people they are today.
I am going by genetic data, and it shows that the Maghreb has been predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years.

You're a liar, boy. Look at the DNA from human remains from the past. EURASIANS!!! LOL!!!

30k yr old remains: 100% Eurasian
12k yr old remains from Taforalt, Morocco: 100% Eurasian!

Guanches: nearly all Eurasian.

White slaves were there when? Then why did the Egyptians, Phoenicians, Greeks and Romans ALL portray Berbers as Eurasian types LONG BEFORE that white slavery?

LOL... you can't deal with those facts, boy, so keep on lying as an Afronazi must.

TARIQ was not black, fool.

Now stop fantasizing about raping pearlybottomed slave girls before you start acting on your impulses to follow the white middleschool girls and jump them in the alley.

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#677 Feb 28, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
I am going by genetic data, and it shows that the Maghreb has been predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years.
You're a liar, boy. Look at the DNA from human remains from the past. EURASIANS!!! LOL!!!
30k yr old remains: 100% Eurasian
12k yr old remains from Taforalt, Morocco: 100% Eurasian!
Guanches: nearly all Eurasian.
White slaves were there when? Then why did the Egyptians, Phoenicians, Greeks and Romans ALL portray Berbers as Eurasian types LONG BEFORE that white slavery?
LOL... you can't deal with those facts, boy, so keep on lying as an Afronazi must.
TARIQ was not black, fool.
Now stop fantasizing about raping pearlybottomed slave girls before you start acting on your impulses to follow the white middleschool girls and jump them in the alley.
you see any 'european types' in the vids i posted. the egyptians depicted 'libyans' as eurasian looking cuz there was a significant migration of J2 types into libya, who are thought to have migrated from anatolia. these people were concentrated in libya, and didn't migrate anywhere else. cuz their genetic markers are still there.

*J2 in northwest africa is a recent arab admixture. and comes up a distant 2nd to M81, which dominates berber groups.

**and M81 is less than 6,000 old. which is a long ways from 30,000 years.

and there's no paternal cro-magnon presence at all among berbers. all you got is a maternal line with a frequency of about 6%. which may have come from europe, along with the other maternal lines flowing into north africa during the moor empire.

the only y-haplogroup present in berbers today that go back 30,000 years is e1b1a.

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#678 Mar 5, 2013
asnay wrote:
im berber we are african u dumb uck
WRONG you are NOT A BERBER, BERBERS are black or admixture not WHITE PEOPLE you are a TURK who are decendants of EDOMITES

THESE are BERBERS the following account by ARABIC TRAVELLER Ibn Battuta was a Moroccan explorer. He is known for his extensive travels, accounts of which were published in the Rihla.

On his travels to Ethiopia Mogadishu, This is what he said about these negro people

Quote; Ibn Battuta embarked on a ship heading for Zeila on the coast of Somalia. He then moved on to Cape Guardafui further down the Somalia seaboard, spending about a week in each location. Later he would visit Mogadishu, the then pre-eminent city of the "Land of the Berbers" ( Balad al-Barbar, the medieval Arabic term for the Horn of Africa)

HE said that Ethiopia was the "Land of the Berbers" So the word BERBER originated with BLACK PEOPLE OF NORTH AFRICA AND BLACK PEOPLE Of ETHIOPIA.

Its just history stop cryin

SHALAM!

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#679 Mar 5, 2013
Not really white-of course-just LOOK white.
That's rather hipocritical.

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#680 Mar 5, 2013
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
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you see any 'european types' in the vids i posted. the egyptians depicted 'libyans' as eurasian looking cuz there was a significant migration of J2 types into libya, who are thought to have migrated from anatolia. these people were concentrated in libya, and didn't migrate anywhere else. cuz their genetic markers are still there.
*J2 in northwest africa is a recent arab admixture. and comes up a distant 2nd to M81, which dominates berber groups.
**and M81 is less than 6,000 old. which is a long ways from 30,000 years.
and there's no paternal cro-magnon presence at all among berbers. all you got is a maternal line with a frequency of about 6%. which may have come from europe, along with the other maternal lines flowing into north africa during the moor empire.
the only y-haplogroup present in berbers today that go back 30,000 years is e1b1a.
Yo this is dead wrong! Your comment " you see any 'european types' in the vids i posted. the egyptians depicted 'libyans' as eurasian looking cuz there was a significant migration of J2 types into libya, the so called j2 were TURKS looms

second the ancient eygptians did not depicted any white libyans this is from and actual artifact depicting the following people:

People of the known World:
A Libyan, A Syrian, and a Nubian Bow to Pharaoh XVIIIth Dynasty
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...


The Libyan LOOMS is on the FAR LEFT bowing down
THE HEBREW is wearing the traditional hebrew gear the HEAD BAND
The Canaanite is Bald
The Nubian Wearing some type of HAT

NONE of these people are WHITE these are the only white people depicted in Egyptians Wall pantings EDOMITES

THE tomb of Rekhmire the vizier, the highest ranking official under the pharaohs Tuthmosis III and Amenophis II
http://truthhitman.com/wp-content/uploads/201...

Notice The second row LOOMS those people scholars call Myceneans or minoans the Egyptians called them the Keftiu notice they are EUROS the original Greeks before they were conqured by EDOMITES

Notice Looms the complexion of the people in the 1,2 and 3 rows the people have the same complexion as the egyptians on the right side collecting the goods

Now the fourth row

THE 4th ROW SHOWS EDOMITES BRINGING GOODS TO THE EGYPTIANS.
http://truthhitman.com/wp-content/uploads/201...

Notice looms their complexion is way different from the rest of the people on this artifact its a PINK RED COLOR RED means EDOM

GET it now! This is the only depiction of WHITE people EVER! in ancient Egypt

The modern white man that lives in north Africa is only a decendant of a TURK that is it!

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#681 Mar 5, 2013
Hipocricy par excellence!

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#682 Mar 5, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
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I am going by genetic data, and it shows that the Maghreb has been predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years.
You're a liar, boy. Look at the DNA from human remains from the past. EURASIANS!!! LOL!!!
30k yr old remains: 100% Eurasian
12k yr old remains alley.
Wrong! Dam dumbo this is what the BERBER GOD looked like named BAAL lets see if he looks like a WHITE MAN

First these are what the BLACK people of Carthage looked like from their statues and pottery found

Origin and Early History of the HEBREW The Carthage head
http://factsanddetails.com/media/2/20120208-P...

Bearded head left; Neo-Punic
http://www.coinarchives.com/83a10dd16b8c30dc8...


BAAL

Ba&#703;al Hammon ARTIFACT Found in Carthage:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

Ba'al Hammon Artifact Carthage:
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/pa5...

BA'Al Hammon Carthage:
http://www.art-prints-on-demand.com/kunst/rom...


BAAL Hammon UP CLOSE LOOK
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...



Sorry none of these NORTH AFRICAN ARTIFACTS LOOKS LIKE YOU BARRY! And their GODS do not resemble you at all

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