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dumb

Howell, MI

#21223 May 3, 2014
yea but you All talk About how racist you Are but there's black guys richer than All the white people.. and stuff.. because you give them your money and your stupid..
Gmoney

Woodbridge, VA

#21224 May 3, 2014
Science wrote:
<quoted text>
Sum you do realize that Cruciani not making a claim of African origins for Y haplogroups R or J or that they arose in Africa in that paper, right? He is breaking down all Y Haplogroups to lead back to Y Haplogroup A for support of the OOA theory, that's all.
Y Haplogroup J has as an ancestor Y Haplogroup IJ ---> that was derived from Y Haplogroup F-L15 ----> that was derived from Haplogroup F that arose in EURASIA meaning Y Haplogroup J arose in Eurasia.
Y Haplogroup R has as an ancestor Y Haplogroup PM-45 ----> that was derived from Y Haplogroup P ----> that was derived from Y Haplogroup
MNOPS ----> that was derived from Y Haplogroup K -----> that was derived from Y Haplogroup F-L15 ----> that was derived from Haplogroup F that arose in EURASIA meaning Y Haplogroup R arose in Eurasia.
Haplogroup F and it's sub-cludes make up more then 90% of the worlds None African Y haplogroups and it's sub clades that are None African in
origins, i.e. Did not arise in Africa, also include Y haplogroups R and J. Even the scientists you keep using state as much.
This has nothing to do with what we are talking about as we are discussing who these people are. These people migrated out of Africa into the Middle East and this is where their haplogroups originated. Without the map, to these ancient people, they were still in Africa. It is more than safe to say that African people moved into Asia. They began to invent Asian culture through the African culture they already established before leaving. Now you guys may want to call these lands Eurasian lands, I disagree terribly, but hey that's what you want to call it. Let's say the land was called blue. Are these African people who migrated into blue now blue people? Are they now going to be washed of all previous customs and physical traits to become a blue people. No. They are a people that are collecting new customs to add on to what they already know. They moved into Asia. Middle East to be more specific. If Asia were named blue these would be afroblue people. Let's say Europe is orange. What you people are doing is removing Afro to place another title on these people that have nothing to do with them by calling them orangeblue people and to have the nerve to put blue first as if we don't understand the importance of the order of titles. That's displacement. That's racism. That's white washing of history and cultural genocide. Eurasian is a term used to describe the Asian people of Mixed Indian and European ancestry. This is not a term coined to represent the land until the rise of western civilization as a power. Case and point, African culture or identity did not disappear with the migration/continuous migrations of their people into Asia. African culture was refined.
Gmoney

Woodbridge, VA

#21225 May 3, 2014
dumb wrote:
yea but you All talk About how racist you Are but there's black guys richer than All the white people.. and stuff.. because you give them your money and your stupid..
What??? Did you even make sense to yourself ? We talk about how racist we are??? I'm not following??? There are dumb people everywhere. Black, white, Asian, Indian. A lot of people give these rich white people their money because we live in the civilization they provide. It's a system they developed to keep receiving their riches. You think they are doing this for the well being of the people?? Oh you believe that we the people bullshyt huh??? Dumb ass. Get a clue. The only way these rich white people don't get rich off of anyone is if people stop living in their societies. There is just one problem with that for African Americans, we were forced to live in this country in these conditions and are being strong African Americans to be a people who came from absolutely nothing here to people who are richer than some white people. "richer than all the white people and stuff" you sound stupid as hell. You sound like some angry white supremacist whose family has been living like bums since they were in Europe. Loser
Gmoney

Woodbridge, VA

#21226 May 3, 2014
dumb wrote:
yea but you All talk About how racist you Are but there's black guys richer than All the white people.. and stuff.. because you give them your money and your stupid..
What??? Did you even make sense to yourself ? We talk about how racist we are??? I'm not following??? There are dumb people everywhere. Black, white, Asian, Indian. A lot of people give these rich white people their money because we live in the civilization they provide. It's a system they developed to keep receiving their riches. You think they are doing this for the well being of the people?? Oh you believe that we the people bullshyt huh??? Dumb ass. Get a clue. The only way these rich white people don't get rich off of anyone is if people stop living in their societies. There is just one problem with that for African Americans, we were forced to live in this country in these conditions and are being strong African Americans to be a people who came from absolutely nothing here to people who are richer than some white people. "richer than all the white people and stuff" you sound stupid as hell. You sound like some angry white supremacist whose family has been living like bums since they were in Europe. Loser
Science

Ardsley, NY

#21227 May 3, 2014
Gmoney wrote:
<quoted text>
This has nothing to do with what we are talking about as we are discussing who these people are. These people migrated out of Africa into the Middle East and this is where their haplogroups originated. Without the map, to these ancient people, they were still in Africa. It is more than safe to say that African people moved into Asia. They began to invent Asian culture through the African culture they already established before leaving. Now you guys may want to call these lands Eurasian lands, I disagree terribly, but hey that's what you want to call it. Let's say the land was called blue. Are these African people who migrated into blue now blue people? Are the now going to be washed of all previous customs and physical traits to become a blue people. No. They are a people that are collecting new customs to add on to what they already know. They moved into Asia. Middle East to be more specific. If Asia were named blue these would be afroblue people. Let's say Europe is orange. What you people are doing is removing Afro to place another title on these people that have nothing to do with them by calling them orangeblue people and to have the nerve to put blue first as if we don't understand the importance of the order of titles. That's displacement. That's racism. That's white washing of history and cultural
genocide. Eurasian is a term used to describe the Asian people of Mixed Indian and European ancestry. This is not a term coined to represent the land until the rise of western civilization as a power. Case and point, African culture or identity did not disappear with the migration/continuous migrations of their people into Asia. African culture was refined.
You are making no sense and fail to understand Human Evolution. Those people were not "African", through evolution after living for hundreds of thousands of years outside of Africa in different climates and various diets they evolved to Eurasian types to have genes that help them evolve and survive in regions that were not cohesive tropical types include many of those none African Haplogroups that arose outside of African among none Afrcian types. You can try to deny this all you want but you will fail in the end because Human Evolution will prove you wrong. Already we have seen how the earliest common Y chromosome can be trace to at least 300,000 years ago, that is hundreds of years before anatomically modern humans arose.

Insect Trust
Level 1

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#21228 May 3, 2014
Gmoney wrote:
<quoted text>
We are discussing Europeans. These Khazars you keep claiming to be Hebrew are Europeans. These Afroasiatic people of ancient times who are historical figures in the bible are being labeled as Eurasians which are people of European decent. That they were not. Semites of ancient times were not Eurasian, they were Afroasiatic people. People are defined by their culture and customs developed in a particular region. The African developed customs and cultures before they migrated out of Africa. They took it to Asia were it was modified by influence of a new environment. That is Afroasiatic culture and customs.
Wrong, Nazi.

The Ashkenazim are not Khazarim. They were in Europe long before the Khazarim arrived. So how do you explain that, dropout? Jews in Roman cities centuries before the Khazarim were west of Mongolia! LOL!!!

Moron.

Semites were Eurasian. J is Eurasian.

And YOU are white.

Insect Trust
Level 1

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#21229 May 3, 2014
Gmoney wrote:
<quoted text>
This has nothing to do with what we are talking about as we are discussing who these people are. These people migrated out of Africa into the Middle East and this is where their haplogroups originated. Without the map, to these ancient people, they were still in Africa. It is more than safe to say that African people moved into Asia. They began to invent Asian culture through the African culture they already established before leaving. Now you guys may want to call these lands Eurasian lands, I disagree terribly, but hey that's what you want to call it. Let's say the land was called blue. Are these African people who migrated into blue now blue people? Are they now going to be washed of all previous customs and physical traits to become a blue people. No. They are a people that are collecting new customs to add on to what they already know. They moved into Asia. Middle East to be more specific. If Asia were named blue these would be afroblue people. Let's say Europe is orange. What you people are doing is removing Afro to place another title on these people that have nothing to do with them by calling them orangeblue people and to have the nerve to put blue first as if we don't understand the importance of the order of titles. That's displacement. That's racism. That's white washing of history and cultural genocide. Eurasian is a term used to describe the Asian people of Mixed Indian and European ancestry. This is not a term coined to represent the land until the rise of western civilization as a power. Case and point, African culture or identity did not disappear with the migration/continuous migrations of their people into Asia. African culture was refined.
The continent is called Eurasia, clown. Your racism keeps you from accepting the “Eur-” part, but as a racist, you're subhuman filth and not to be taken seriously.

Mideast: Eurasian.
Gmoney

Woodbridge, VA

#21230 May 3, 2014
Science wrote:
<quoted text>
You are making no sense and fail to understand Human Evolution. Those people were not "African", through evolution after living for hundreds of thousands of years outside of Africa in different climates and various diets they evolved to Eurasian types to have genes that help them evolve and survive in regions that were not cohesive tropical types include many of those none African Haplogroups that arose outside of African among none Afrcian types. You can try to deny this all you want but you will fail in the end because Human Evolution will prove you wrong. Already we have seen how the earliest common Y chromosome can be trace to at least 300,000 years ago, that is hundreds of years before anatomically modern humans arose.
Human evolution isn't proving anyone wrong. It's people who are wrong about human evolution. Y chromosomes being traced to humans who were not anatomically correct just means that gene sequences in other human species are similar to ours. Well that's nothing knew. We all are already are aware that the graphing of a modern human began before anatomically humans started walking the earth. People claim that the whites in the Maghreb have been there for 30,000 years and have barely changed. This is crazy coming from the same group of people that are saying that Africans migrating from Africa into the Mifdle East changed tremendously. Why is that? Do the Eurasian invaders of the Maghreb have some special gene stability agent that causes the genetics to follow different rules. No that is not the case. What is the case is science and history are filled with inconsistencies and fabrications to provide confirmation of a particular parties views. His story. It takes a long time and more than just the environment to change human traits such as skin color and facial features. These are important elements in who a person are entirely effected by what dictates haplogroups. I understand evolution very well, it is you who doesn't.
Gmoney

Woodbridge, VA

#21231 May 3, 2014
Insect Trust wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong, Nazi.
The Ashkenazim are not Khazarim. They were in Europe long before the Khazarim arrived. So how do you explain that, dropout? Jews in Roman cities centuries before the Khazarim were west of Mongolia! LOL!!!
Moron.
Semites were Eurasian. J is Eurasian.
And YOU are white.
More lies and fabrications.
Gmoney

Woodbridge, VA

#21232 May 3, 2014
Insect Trust wrote:
<quoted text>
The continent is called Eurasia, clown. Your racism keeps you from accepting the “Eur-” part, but as a racist, you're subhuman filth and not to be taken seriously.
Mideast: Eurasian.
The continent is called Afro-Eurasia clown and it is your racism that like to leave out Afro because your a hating ass bigot who doesn't want Africa to have anything to do with being the initial influences on a majority of early civilizations. Subhuman, Eurocentric filth is what you are. Afroasiatics is what they were.

Insect Trust
Level 1

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#21233 May 3, 2014
Gmoney wrote:
<quoted text>
Human evolution isn't proving anyone wrong. It's people who are wrong about human evolution. Y chromosomes being traced to humans who were not anatomically correct just means that gene sequences in other human species are similar to ours. Well that's nothing knew. We all are already are aware that the graphing of a modern human began before anatomically humans started walking the earth. People claim that the whites in the Maghreb have been there for 30,000 years and have barely changed. This is crazy coming from the same group of people that are saying that Africans migrating from Africa into the Mifdle East changed tremendously. Why is that? Do the Eurasian invaders of the Maghreb have some special gene stability agent that causes the genetics to follow different rules. No that is not the case. What is the case is science and history are filled with inconsistencies and fabrications to provide confirmation of a particular parties views. His story. It takes a long time and more than just the environment to change human traits such as skin color and facial features. These are important elements in who a person are entirely effected by what dictates haplogroups. I understand evolution very well, it is you who doesn't.
That is either gibberish or error.

Who said Euraians entering the Maghre haven't changed? They have. The first to enter, 30k bp, were Cro-Magnon-like. Today the Maghrebians, like the Europeans, are less robust than Cro-Magnon. Evolution. Change.

You do not understand evolution, or much else. The comedy of you attempting to make the world black and make you hate your ¼ black self is only amusement for the rest of us.

Self-hating clown.

Insect Trust
Level 1

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#21234 May 3, 2014
Gmoney wrote:
<quoted text>
The continent is called Afro-Eurasia clown and it is your racism that like to leave out Afro because your a hating ass bigot who doesn't want Africa to have anything to do with being the initial influences on a majority of early civilizations. Subhuman, Eurocentric filth is what you are. Afroasiatics is what they were.
On no map is it “Afroeurasia”, you dropout.

Eurasia is a continent. Africa is a continent.

There is no such thing as “Afroasiatic people”, fool.

Are the Hausa the same people as the Aramaeans? LOL!!!

You blithering fool. Racist floating turd.
Gmoney

Woodbridge, VA

#21235 May 3, 2014
Insect Trust wrote:
<quoted text>
That is either gibberish or error.
Who said Euraians entering the Maghre haven't changed? They have. The first to enter, 30k bp, were Cro-Magnon-like. Today the Maghrebians, like the Europeans, are less robust than Cro-Magnon. Evolution. Change.
You do not understand evolution, or much else. The comedy of you attempting to make the world black and make you hate your ¼ black self is only amusement for the rest of us.
Self-hating clown.
Now this is gibberish.. Now your trying to say that the Cro-magnon evolved into modern man??? What is up with you??? Your like a confused little bitxh that doesn't know where to squat and piss. Today, the people of Africa are like modern humans period. There were modern humans living in Northern Africa before Cro magnon and after Cro magnon. That isn't change. That is different people living at the same time. No one knows where Cro magnon came from and to assume Cro magnon came from the Middle East and evolved in Africa to be the maghreb of today is stupid. Like I said, that was definitely gibberish. You would love for me to hate yourself. NOT
Gmoney

Woodbridge, VA

#21236 May 3, 2014
Insect Trust wrote:
<quoted text>
On no map is it “Afroeurasia”, you dropout.
Eurasia is a continent. Africa is a continent.
There is no such thing as “Afroasiatic people”, fool.
Are the Hausa the same people as the Aramaeans? LOL!!!
You blithering fool. Racist floating turd.
And this is called anger....
You mad because I don't conform to your Eurocentric pseudoscientific definitions and historical citations??? You mad because I don't promote your poisonous ill advised super whitey events of history??? Get over it white boy. Drop out.... Yea you would know since you dropped out of life a long time ago. Your definition of Eurasia being a continent is through a perception of boundaries that exist and don't exist. There is no boundary between Africa and the Middle East. Like wise with the Middle East and Asia. Like wise with Asia and Europe. Yet we choose to separate them in light that we acknowledge their individuality you dumb buffoon. They are all connected thus Afro-Eurasia is a true and documented name in many places and books. Afroasiatic people are the result of these two land masses being directly connected. Anything else ass wipe?

Insect Trust
Level 1

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#21237 May 3, 2014
Gmoney wrote:
<quoted text>
Now this is gibberish.. Now your trying to say that the Cro-magnon evolved into modern man??? What is up with you??? Your like a confused little bitxh that doesn't know where to squat and piss. Today, the people of Africa are like modern humans period. There were modern humans living in Northern Africa before Cro magnon and after Cro magnon. That isn't change. That is different people living at the same time. No one knows where Cro magnon came from and to assume Cro magnon came from the Middle East and evolved in Africa to be the maghreb of today is stupid. Like I said, that was definitely gibberish. You would love for me to hate yourself. NOT
Yes, moron, Cro-Magnon was the ancestor of modern peoples, those of Europe, the steppes, Mideast, Maghreb.

Nobody was in the Maghreb when the Cro-Magnon types arrived 30k bp. If so, provide a LINK, dropout.

Cro-Magnon ARE Homo sapiens, modern humans. You are really ignorant of anthropology, fool.

You do hate yourself, or you wouldn't be so intent on making yourself into a Berber Hebrew Viking Chinese Olmec.

Yes, there is evidence of a Mideastern ancestry for Cro-Magnon, dropout, because Cro-Magnon have DNA which originated in the Mideast. Euro Cro-Magnon of type I are sister clade to Mideastern J.

You clown. Do you even know what “clade” means?
Gmoney

Woodbridge, VA

#21238 May 3, 2014
Cro magnon were not the only inhabitants of Northern Africa when they arrived there 30,000 years ago and Cro magnons direct ancestor was l3 according the haplogroups if you wanna go in that direction. They were N. They were very close to their African ancestors according to your theories. Cro magnon is irrelevant to the fact of what we are talking about because they were black people. They got as far as Italy and then some went back into Africa while other went north to become the first inhabitants of Europe. They didn't have much progress out there in Europe because of the conditions. The lived amongst the Africans who looked like the but less robust which have way to the Nataufians and other African groups thousands of years later. You know nothing about true history boy. Just Eurocentric lies.
Gmoney

Woodbridge, VA

#21239 May 3, 2014
Insect Trust wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, moron, Cro-Magnon was the ancestor of modern peoples, those of Europe, the steppes, Mideast, Maghreb.
Nobody was in the Maghreb when the Cro-Magnon types arrived 30k bp. If so, provide a LINK, dropout.
Cro-Magnon ARE Homo sapiens, modern humans. You are really ignorant of anthropology, fool.
You do hate yourself, or you wouldn't be so intent on making yourself into a Berber Hebrew Viking Chinese Olmec.
Yes, there is evidence of a Mideastern ancestry for Cro-Magnon, dropout, because Cro-Magnon have DNA which originated in the Mideast. Euro Cro-Magnon of type I are sister clade to Mideastern J.
You clown. Do you even know what “clade” means?
I'm going to state it again. Maybe you will understand this time. Maybe not as you do prove to have such little intellect. I don't hate myself not do I make myself Chinese, Viking, Olmec or anything else but a Haitian American man of color. My ancestors, the Afroasiatic people, have influenced many of those cultures. You hate me because you know I speak the truth and therefore bring hatred, and threats in a forum in reference to someone you never met. You have no dominion over yourself huh buddy????lmao

Insect Trust
Level 1

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#21240 May 3, 2014
Gmoney wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm going to state it again. Maybe you will understand this time. Maybe not as you do prove to have such little intellect. I don't hate myself not do I make myself Chinese, Viking, Olmec or anything else but a Haitian American man of color. My ancestors, the Afroasiatic people, have influenced many of those cultures. You hate me because you know I speak the truth and therefore bring hatred, and threats in a forum in reference to someone you never met. You have no dominion over yourself huh buddy????lmao
Don't condescend to me, dropout.

There is no such thing as Afroasiatic people. And you are basically white, since I don't believe in the one-drop rule, which is racist.

You speak no truth, clown. How can I hate a rat or a gnat?

...or a twit like you?

You cannot substantiate ANYTHING you say, you have no evidence, and you have no knowledge, just BS you get from afrosupremacist self-hating wannabe-Olmec sites.

Insect Trust
Level 1

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#21241 May 3, 2014
Gmoney wrote:
Cro magnon were not the only inhabitants of Northern Africa when they arrived there 30,000 years ago and Cro magnons direct ancestor was l3 according the haplogroups if you wanna go in that direction. They were N. They were very close to their African ancestors according to your theories. Cro magnon is irrelevant to the fact of what we are talking about because they were black people. They got as far as Italy and then some went back into Africa while other went north to become the first inhabitants of Europe. They didn't have much progress out there in Europe because of the conditions. The lived amongst the Africans who looked like the but less robust which have way to the Nataufians and other African groups thousands of years later. You know nothing about true history boy. Just Eurocentric lies.
Wrong, dropout. When the Eurasians arrived in the Maghreb 30k bp, it was uninhabited. If not, provide evidence proving someone else lived there. You cannot. You lose again, clown.

Cro-Magnon were not black, and they are not irrelevant, since the migrants to the Maghreb were of Cro-Magnon type, and of Mideastern origin. Not Africans. Eurasians.

LOL... your fairy tale is absurd. They went to Italy, then came back, then lived among Natufians... LOL... WHAT???

Those Mideasterners were in the Maghreb before the Natufians even migrated down the Nile, fool.

You're one silly white-assed clown.
Gmoney

Woodbridge, VA

#21242 May 3, 2014
Insect Trust wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't condescend to me, dropout.
There is no such thing as Afroasiatic people. And you are basically white, since I don't believe in the one-drop rule, which is racist.
You speak no truth, clown. How can I hate a rat or a gnat?
...or a twit like you?
You cannot substantiate ANYTHING you say, you have no evidence, and you have no knowledge, just BS you get from afrosupremacist self-hating wannabe-Olmec sites.
Your dumb... This deserves no real response... Everyone says what an idiot you are based on this post.

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