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Gmoney

Woodbridge, VA

#17522 Oct 25, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
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You're confused as always, semi-literate nitwit boy.
Mideastern DNA is in northeastern Africa, and there is northeastern African DNA in the northern Mideast from the Natufians, and in southern Arabia due to immigration via Yemen.
The earliest ancestors of the Maghrebian Berbers migrated in from the Mideast 30,000 years ago.
You're one daft dunce, boy.
Your confused and don't know what your talking about... Get a clue dude, the Berbers were a black nation for a very long time before invaders came in and claimed their culture. Same as with the rest of the North African population, Middle Eastern population and Mesopotamian population. Your one gay fat boi.
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#17523 Oct 25, 2013
Drabbo wrote:
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What is interesting is that the narrative for Hebrew mid-east Origins did not exist until they were exiled in babylon. Remember Exodus is the oldest book - not Genesis.Abram from UR was actually a babylonian patriach -- however to weave themselves into having legitimacy to the babylonian land - a narrative of Abram migrating to Canaan and his descendants ending up in Egypt was concocted. Read Francis Fukuyama's book on Origins of political order. Most societies that are deemed foreign or immigrants try to acquire legitimacy into the local population they find themselves in by injecting themselves into their origin narratives. If DNA was a marker of Jewishness/ Hebrewness then most present day Jews would be german and most present day Palestinians would be jewish! Palestinians display the highest concentration of semetic DNA associated with the levant.DNA evidence actually further weakens your argument.
Um you know nothing about DNA. The INDIGENOUS Haplogroups of the Middle East are Haplogroup J (22000BC) that ORIGINATED IN ANATOLIA and Haplogroup G (30000BC) which originated in the LEVANT! All Middle Eastern people of course carry these Haplogroups WHICH INCLUDES THE JEWS! The ancient Hebrews came from Mesopotamia carrying Haplogroup J2 which the Israelites carried and now the Jews! Some Palestinians are the real descendants of the ancient Israelites, but the majority of Palestinians originated from Saudi Arabia!
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#17524 Oct 26, 2013
Gmoney wrote:
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Your confused and don't know what your talking about... Get a clue dude, the Berbers were a black nation for a very long time before invaders came in and claimed their culture. Same as with the rest of the North African population, Middle Eastern population and Mesopotamian population. Your one gay fat boi.
Nope these were the first people in Europe,Middle East and North Africa!
www.sciencephoto.com/media/481366/view
Their daddy was the very hairy but always very sexy neanderthal. INDIGENOUS Middle Eastern peopleEuropeans carry more neanderthal DNA than African DNA and thats an absolute fact!
World Haplogroup Map:
www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogrou...
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#17525 Oct 26, 2013
Gmoney wrote:
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Actually they were there. Evidence can be destroyed by the earth and by man. Evidence found can always be mis-informed. This and many other governments do it all the time and have yet to let all of the truth be known. Kind of like the lies you like to spread, so do they.
Um...thousands of neanderthal,Cro-Magnon and hybrids found in Europe and the Middle East but no African skeletons!
LION

Charlotte, NC

#17526 Oct 26, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Um...thousands of neanderthal,Cro-Magnon and hybrids found in Europe and the Middle East but no African skeletons!
Many ethioians, sudnanese, samolis, and egytians can be very black and still have any racial dna, etc----------
Gmoney

Herndon, VA

#17527 Oct 26, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Um...thousands of neanderthal,Cro-Magnon and hybrids found in Europe and the Middle East but no African skeletons!
Stop your lying. There were no thousands of anything found you ole fabricating a** fagg*t. Yet again you prove you have no idea how this research is collected or analyzed.
Gmoney

Herndon, VA

#17528 Oct 26, 2013
LION wrote:
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Many ethioians, sudnanese, samolis, and egytians can be very black and still have any racial dna, etc----------
His problem is that he is ignorant to the fact that some of these so called Eurasian DNA sequences, matter fact most of them, has origins in east Africa. Just because they have j, g or even F as their genetic markers doesn't mean they weren't black. They could have the mutating gene in them but definitely have a physical appearance not typical of these genetic markers today. These genetic markers you speak of are once again just theories. They are not facts and until and referring to them as so is of much ignorance.

Level 3

Since: Nov 07

Phoenix, AZ

#17529 Oct 26, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Um you know nothing about DNA. The INDIGENOUS Haplogroups of the Middle East are Haplogroup J (22000BC) that ORIGINATED IN ANATOLIA and Haplogroup G (30000BC) which originated in the LEVANT! All Middle Eastern people of course carry these Haplogroups WHICH INCLUDES THE JEWS! The ancient Hebrews came from Mesopotamia carrying Haplogroup J2 which the Israelites carried and now the Jews! Some Palestinians are the real descendants of the ancient Israelites, but the majority of Palestinians originated from Saudi Arabia!
Simple question ..What is the Haplogroup of Palestinians?

Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#17530 Oct 26, 2013
Drabbo wrote:
<quoted text>Simple Historical Math -- If A is older than and not a contemporary of B, and C is a contemporary of B. C cannot be a contemporary of A. If C claims to be a contemporary of A they either had a time machine and went back into time or they are telling a lie.
Ur of the Chaldees - where Abraham is supposedly originated did not exist until about the 8th century BC,1000 years after its claimed Biblical(and Torah) period.Read some History -- its in 587 b.C that the Chaldeans conquered Judah and transfered the Hebrew elite to babylon - this is the only time they would encountered the narrative of Aram - who was a patriarch etched in Chaldean and Aramaic methology.According to biblical chronology Abraham would have been born about 290 years after Noah's flood so any reference of chaldeans to Ur could not have been any time before the 8th century B.C- secondly Jewish pronounciation of Abraham is in aramaic not in any ancient hebrew ( like the moses, aaron etc)- a language that could only been spoken in babylonian times when it started becoming the lingua Franca of the region.Abraham as a patriarch is a very late invention in Hebrew mythology to place Hebrew origins in Babylon, which at the time was a powerful center of Mesopotamian power.The Jewish exiles in babylon wanted to increase their own prestige by aligning themselves by blood within the babylonian community.
Many errors.

First, Noah's flood is myth, and the real flood upon which it is based was MUCH earlier than what you stte.

Ur was a Sumerian city. It is far older than the time of Abraham. And Abraham wasn't from Ur originally. He lived there. Many groups lived in Babylonian or other Mesopotamian cities who were from elsewhere.

Abraham's presence in Ur had nothing to do with the Babylonian captivity, which was much later.

Abraham living in Ur did not give him any Babylonian lineage. As I stated, Babylonian cities had sections for peoples of various ethnicities who lived there, and were connected by trade.

Your narrative contradicts many historical facts and has no facts to substantiate it.

Level 3

Since: Nov 07

Phoenix, AZ

#17531 Oct 26, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
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Many errors.
First, Noah's flood is myth, and the real flood upon which it is based was MUCH earlier than what you stte.
Ur was a Sumerian city. It is far older than the time of Abraham. And Abraham wasn't from Ur originally. He lived there. Many groups lived in Babylonian or other Mesopotamian cities who were from elsewhere.
Abraham's presence in Ur had nothing to do with the Babylonian captivity, which was much later.
Abraham living in Ur did not give him any Babylonian lineage. As I stated, Babylonian cities had sections for peoples of various ethnicities who lived there, and were connected by trade.
Your narrative contradicts many historical facts and has no facts to substantiate it.
So If you acknowledge Noah's flood is a myth it shouldn't be far fetched for you to acknowledge the mythology associated with Hebrew origins-It all in the same text!! what is the selection process you use to decide that one part of the story is a myth and the other isn't?? Just feelings??!

Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#17532 Oct 26, 2013
The Sublimely Ignorant Gaymoney wrote:
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His problem is that he is ignorant to the fact that some of these so called Eurasian DNA sequences, matter fact most of them, has origins in east Africa. Just because they have j, g or even F as their genetic markers doesn't mean they weren't black. They could have the mutating gene in them but definitely have a physical appearance not typical of these genetic markers today. These genetic markers you speak of are once again just theories. They are not facts and until and referring to them as so is of much ignorance.
You have NO evidence for this. Those are all Eurasian markers. They are from Eurasian people. Period.

Get an education, boy.

Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#17533 Oct 26, 2013
Drabbo wrote:
<quoted text> So If you acknowledge Noah's flood is a myth it shouldn't be far fetched for you to acknowledge the mythology associated with Hebrew origins-It all in the same text!! what is the selection process you use to decide that one part of the story is a myth and the other isn't?? Just feelings??!
No, it is based on the fact that accounts from historical times recorded real events, though often distorting them, while the tales of creation, flood, etc., are from a time far removed from the time writing was available, were passed down orally, and cannot be taken literally.

The Hebrews were a distinct people with their own language already... what Abraham did was begin Judaism. This is marked by the end of human sacrifice among Hebrews, as Abraham was stopped (by “God”) from killing Isaac. Semites regularly sacrificed their children. For the Hebrews to end sacrifice was a break with tradition. That is what Abraham signifies... not the origin of the Hebrew people, but the origin of Judaism.
Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#17534 Oct 26, 2013
Abraham was not from the area of "Turkey".

Abraham, ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE insinuates, was born in Ur of the Chaldeans.
He and his two brothers were born in Ur. Haran died there in Ur in Chaldea.
Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#17535 Oct 26, 2013
Going by Scripture:

They TRAVELED EAST! Settling in Shinar. With (Nimrod) building the city of Babel. Since he was the founder according to Scripture.

During the time of dispersion (which seems to be in the time of Peleg-*for in HIS TIME the Earth was divided), and Abrahams birth, they were in the area of Ur.
SuckItUp

Forest Hills, NY

#17536 Oct 26, 2013
There you go, you have your SCIENTIFIC proof:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_history_of_E...

Modern Egyptians (who are NOT black) are largely representative of the ancient population.

NOT all Africans are blacks. North Africans (Egyptians, Tunisians, Algerians, Libyans and Moroccans) have light brown skins and are very similar to middle easterners.
Tariq Ibn Ziyad

Jacksonville, FL

#17537 Oct 26, 2013
I don't know that the Egyptians were, tbh...

...by the way, I admire and respect the Egyptian king, Thutmosis III, for his military accomplishments.
Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#17538 Oct 26, 2013
Modern Egyptians are not any relations to the Ancient population of Ancient Egypt.

Here you go:

Israel-Jews Seminar Takeover of Wikipedia Online
"...instruction day for wiki editors. The goal of the day is..ahh.. teach people how to edit in wikipedia which is the number one source of information in the world.
Tariq Ibn Ziyad

Jacksonville, FL

#17539 Oct 26, 2013
* I don't know what the Egyptians were.
Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#17540 Oct 26, 2013
Shaw and Bruce say about the prevalence of light hair and blue eyes, is attributed to a considerable infusion of (INVADING) Latin and Vandal blood.
The Kaids are of Roman and Turkish descent and stock.(the Turkish stock being known as novus homo).

Level 2

Since: May 11

El Monte, CA

#17541 Oct 26, 2013
Ish Tov the ancient Cameroonian were Black! Now tell me how they are not because of R1. Lmao

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