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Insect Trust
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#24832 Jul 3, 2014
Gmoney AKA Big G wrote:
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There was much that was African about them. for one they came out of Africa. two, their parent haolotype is completely African which makes them African types as well. Any kid will know that you are a lot like your parents. M, N and R arose from their African parents in Africa therefore the first clades of these groups were definitely African and their descendants..... AFROASIATICS.
Wrong, dropout boy.

M, N and R are the types of EURasians, not Africans. They migrated around EURasia. Small back-migrations from EURasia into Africa don't alter that.

And they quickly evolved after OOA into diverse EURasian types, boy.
BMT

Eskilstuna, Sweden

#24833 Jul 3, 2014
BMT wrote:
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Classification are not written in stone. Future scientist will come up with other ways to classify people. If blacks were heavily into anthrology and genetics rest assured they would classify things differently. Alotta lies and truth hidden by eurocentric scientists today would be exposed. Richard Lynn anyone?^_^
*Anthropology

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#24834 Jul 3, 2014
Gmoney AKA Big G wrote:
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No there wouldn't... according to you and insect face, there wasn't many people in Africa when the people in East Africa decided to migrate into EURASIA. According to you fools, there were small groups that made it out. so why would there be such deep lineage when many of the people carrying these genes were in small numbers?? you fools are so contradicting it is ridiculous. you talk about how Africa only has a certain amount of genetic markers. That they diversity is low in gene variation but yet you expect for there to be diverse clades of M??? your a fool. You do find descendants of M in Africa. M1. M1 is the oldest of the sub clades and it is most concentrated in Africa and no where else. If it were back migration from Asia into Africa, why isn't it concentrated in Asia?....lmao. It originated in Africa and moved out of Africa when it first arose. M itself probably existed solely in Africa and died out when M1 became dominant. M1 remained stable as many haplotypes do in Africa. When M1 crossed into EURASIA, it changed a lot amongst many of the people due to genetic drift. these were EURASIAN people.
Moron. The population was small after Toba, and those who left in OOA for EURasia were small in number.

Humans altogether have low genetic diversity. Not as bad as the cheetah, but still not very diverse relative to most mammals.

I made basic corrections to your erroneous spew, boy. Fix your errors and re-submit, and maybe you can get your grade back up to a D-.

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#24835 Jul 3, 2014
Gmoney AKA Big G wrote:
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M and N came from L3. Their were variations of L3 which were all African clades. M and N were
Also African type people in their origins.
Can't you read, boy? M is EURasian. It is in Africa by back-migration, along with U6 which was brought into the Maghreb.

Still an F, boy.
BMT

Eskilstuna, Sweden

#24836 Jul 3, 2014
Eric456 wrote:
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Wrong. If M came about in Africa then there would be deeper lineages and much more diverse clades found of the marker through out Africa but there aren't. Haplogroup M arose in Eurasia that's where the deepest and most ancestral lineages of the M marker are found as well as the most diversified. Plus if Haplogroup M arose in Africa then you would find many of its descendants in Africans too but there is NONE. ALL of Haplogroup Ms descedants: Haplogroup CZ (mtDNA) CZ, Haplogroup D (mtDNA), Haplogroup E (mtDNA), Haplogroup G (mtDNA), & Haplogroup Q (mtDNA) are ALL absent in Africa but are found through out Asia.
How do we know these lineages did not exist in Africa or exist today but not yet discovered? Seriously
BMT

Eskilstuna, Sweden

#24837 Jul 3, 2014
Eric456 wrote:
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Wrong. If M came about in Africa then there would be deeper lineages and much more diverse clades found of the marker through out Africa but there aren't. Haplogroup M arose in Eurasia that's where the deepest and most ancestral lineages of the M marker are found as well as the most diversified. Plus if Haplogroup M arose in Africa then you would find many of its descendants in Africans too but there is NONE. ALL of Haplogroup Ms descedants: Haplogroup CZ (mtDNA) CZ, Haplogroup D (mtDNA), Haplogroup E (mtDNA), Haplogroup G (mtDNA), & Haplogroup Q (mtDNA) are ALL absent in Africa but are found through out Asia.
I believe the Andamanese took MtDna M out of Africa to India and beyond. M evolved in Africa.

" Given the insularity of the Andamanese, this has led geneticists to believe that this haplogroup originated with the earliest settlers of India during the coastal migration that brought the ancestors of the Andamanese to the Indian mainland, the Andaman Islands and further afield to Southeast Asia.[20"

Logical
BMT

Eskilstuna, Sweden

#24838 Jul 3, 2014
Eric456 wrote:
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Wrong. M not being diverse in Africa shows it did not arise in Africa nor among Africans. M1 and many other sub clades of M were/are EURASIAN and found predominately in Eurasians. Its presence in Africa just shows back migrations by Eurasian types. Africa just has younger lineages of Haplogroup M clades. Read:
"Both lineages are thought to have been the main surviving lineages involved in the out of Africa migration (or migrations) because all indigenous lineages found outside Africa belong to haplogroup M or haplogroup N.
Much of discussion concerning the origins of haplogroup M has been related to its subclade haplogroup M1, which is the only variant of macrohaplogroup M found in Africa.[9]
Asia as the place of origin of macrohaplogroup M is supported by the following:
1.The highest frequencies worldwide of macrohaplogroup M are observed in Asia, specifically in Bangladesh, India, Japan, Nepal, and Tibet, where frequencies range from 60%-80%.
2.Deep time depth >50,000 years of western, central, southern and eastern Indian haplogroups M2, M38, M54, M58, M33, M6, M61, M62 and the distribution of macrohaplogroup M, do not rule out the possibility of macrohaplogroup M arising in Indian population.[16]
3.With the exception of the African specific M1, India has several M lineages that emerged directly from the root of haplogroup M.[1][15]
4.Only two subclades of haplogroup M, M1 and M23, are found in Africa, whereas numerous subclades are found outside Africa[1][3](with some discussion possible only about sub-clade M1, concerning which see below).
5.Specifically concerning M1:
Haplogroup M1 has a restricted geographic distribution in Africa, being found mainly in North Africans and East Africa at low or moderate frequencies. If M had originated in Africa around before the Out of Africa migration, it would be expected to have a more widespread distribution [15]
6. According to Gonzalez et al. 2007, M1 appears to have expanded relatively recently. In this study M1 had a younger coalescence age than the Asian-exclusive M lineages.[3]
7. M1 is not restricted to Africa. It is relatively common in the Mediterranean, peaking in Iberia. M1 also enjoys a well-established presence in the Middle East, from the South of the Arabian Peninsula to Anatolia and from the Levant to Iran. In addition, M1 haplotypes have occasionally been observed in the Caucasus and the Trans Caucasus, and without any accompanying L lineages.[3][9] M1 has also been detected in Central Asia, seemingly reaching as far as Tibet.[3]"
Remember the rapid evolution claim you, barros the flip flopper and the gay SA made? It is possible the diversity of M in Asia has to do with rapid evolution.^_^
BMT

Eskilstuna, Sweden

#24839 Jul 3, 2014
Insect Trust wrote:
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Wrong as always, gaydummy.
Diverity in EURasia indicates place of origin.
M is EURasian, boy. Learn to live with that fact.
We all know what? Really... just spit it out, your entire NOI Nazi philosophy. Let's hear it, scum.
Diversity in asia of M could be a result of rapid evolution. Your "scientific fact", no? Or you wanna say rapid evolution only occurred during OOA.^_^

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#24840 Jul 3, 2014
BMT wrote:
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I believe the Andamanese took MtDna M out of Africa to India and beyond. M evolved in Africa.
" Given the insularity of the Andamanese, this has led geneticists to believe that this haplogroup originated with the earliest settlers of India during the coastal migration that brought the ancestors of the Andamanese to the Indian mainland, the Andaman Islands and further afield to Southeast Asia.[20"
Logical
Nope, you believe wrong. M arose in Eurasia where the deepest and most diverse lineages of haplogroup M are found. Even the paragraph you quoted above states the halpgroup's origins are in Asia.

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#24841 Jul 3, 2014
BMT wrote:
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Diversity in asia of M could be a result of rapid evolution. Your "scientific fact", no? Or you wanna say rapid evolution only occurred during OOA.^_^
Diversity in Eurasia of M is because it arose there. Just like Afrocentrics like to claim 'E' is 'African' because the most diverse lineages of 'E' are found in Africa. Oh sorry I forgot, you don't believe in diversity=origins when it doesn't support Afrocentric views. ;p

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#24842 Jul 3, 2014
BMT wrote:
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How do we know these lineages did not exist in Africa or exist today but not yet discovered? Seriously
They never existed in Africa because they did not arise in Africa and neither did their ancestral haplogroup. Haplogroup CZ (mtDNA) arose in North Eurasia today its found predominately in Siberian populations. Haplogroup D (mtDNA) arose in East Asia. It is found in Northeast Asia, Central Asia and Eastern Europe. Its subclade D1 (along with D2, D3, and D4h3a) is one of five haplogroups found in the indigenous peoples of the Americas, the others being A, B, C, and X. Haplogroup E (mtDNA) arose in Southeastern Asia and has a Southeast Asian distribution. Haplogroup G (mtDNA) arose in East Asia and is one of the most common mtDNA haplogroups among East Asians, and it is also found at lower frequency among Central Asia. Haplogroup Q (mtDNA) arose in Southeast Asia and its found at high percentage in Southeast Asia/Pacific region.
BMT

Eskilstuna, Sweden

#24843 Jul 3, 2014
Eric456 wrote:
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Nope, you believe wrong. M arose in Eurasia where the deepest and most diverse lineages of haplogroup M are found. Even the paragraph you quoted above states the halpgroup's originis are in Asia.
Originated as in Came with. M in india Did not pop up from the ground. The coastal migration To india was quite rapid. The absence of L3 in India strengthens the African origin of M.

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#24844 Jul 3, 2014
BMT wrote:
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Originated as in Came with. M in india Did not pop up from the ground. The coastal migration To india was quite rapid. The absence of L3 in India strengthens the African origin of M.
No originated as in it arose outside of Africa. The absence of any deep lineages of M in Africa and the fact that all of Ms descendant haplogroups arose and are found outside of Africa and all over Eurasia only strengthens the Eurasian origin of M.
Gmoney AKA Big G

Petersburg, VA

#24845 Jul 3, 2014
Insect Trust wrote:
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What you mean is EURasia into Africa.
No I definitely meant Asia... Matter fact, the Middle East.
Gmoney AKA Big G

Petersburg, VA

#24846 Jul 3, 2014
Insect Trust wrote:
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Moron. The population was small after Toba, and those who left in OOA for EURasia were small in number.
Humans altogether have low genetic diversity. Not as bad as the cheetah, but still not very diverse relative to most mammals.
I made basic corrections to your erroneous spew, boy. Fix your errors and re-submit, and maybe you can get your grade back up to a D-.
Wow, you're still talking that NAZI shyt??? Dam NAZI's always running their mouth about shyt they know nothing about...
Gmoney AKA Big G

Petersburg, VA

#24847 Jul 3, 2014
Insect Trust wrote:
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Can't you read, boy? M is EURasian. It is in Africa by back-migration, along with U6 which was brought into the Maghreb.
Still an F, boy.
I can read... I just don't understand your stupidity.
Gmoney AKA Big G

Petersburg, VA

#24848 Jul 3, 2014
BMT wrote:
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Originated as in Came with. M in india Did not pop up from the ground. The coastal migration To india was quite rapid. The absence of L3 in India strengthens the African origin of M.
Exactly.... The group arose in Africa, it spread out into Asia. They can't admit that because that would make the descendants of m and N which are all over Asia and Europe Afroasiatic groups instead of Eurasian which even with out that being the case, the early migrators were definitely Afroasiatic.
OnlyPatchWork

Brewster, NY

#24849 Jul 3, 2014
Gmoney AKA Big G wrote:
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Exactly.... The group arose in Africa, it spread out into Asia. They can't admit that because that would make the descendants of m and N which are all over Asia and Europe Afroasiatic groups instead of Eurasian which even with out that being the case, the early migrators were definitely Afroasiatic.
Those original Africans were like the Bushman.

The West African race doesn't start until 13,000 years ago with Iwo Eleru.
Gmoney AKA Big G

Petersburg, VA

#24850 Jul 3, 2014
OnlyPatchWork wrote:
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Those original Africans were like the Bushman.
The West African race doesn't start until 13,000 years ago with Iwo Eleru.
And your point is??? African is African... Whether they were like bushmen, East Africans or west Africans, they are
Africans.
asho

Eskilstuna, Sweden

#24851 Jul 3, 2014
OnlyPatchWork wrote:
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Those original Africans were like the Bushman.
The West African race doesn't start until 13,000 years ago with Iwo Eleru.
Do not buy that "eurocentric" garbage. Do you know why there are hardly any skeletal remains found in africa? Because african soil desolves bones. Bones that have been found lie in dry areas like parts of East Efrica and sahara. The oldest Male Dna, A00, has been found among the west african race. This 40,000 year old "first europeans" has uncanny semblence to west africans.

"First European".
http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/wp-conten...

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