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Aug 13, 2012
 
Halonen is Conan OBrien wrote:
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Yes look at this murder rate map of North America. Why does Montana have a lower murder rate than Canadian providences to the North of Montana?
Montana has one of the highest gun ownerships in the U.S & Montana is one of the poorest states in the U.S
http://www.google.com/imgres...
Why does Nunavut Canada have a higher murder rate than any U.S state does?
Nunavut has a similar but slightly higher murder rate than Mexico does.
Canada isn't 13% African American.
13% of the U.S is African while 52% of the murder
It's amusing you got your information from a site which proclaims that it is helping 'Canada become part of the USA' Didn't you learn anything from 1812?

"For 1989-95, the average handgun homicide rate was 4.8 per 100,000 in the U.S., compared to 0.3 per 100,000 for Canada."

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa0...

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#47
Aug 13, 2012
 
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It's nothing like Ghandi at all, oh simple one. It's about greed and it always has been, Americans did not want to pay taxes and the simplest way to do that was by revolting, and Americans have been revolting ever since.
They dressed it up in a whole heap of bullshit using words like 'freedom' and 'liberty' whilst the first 12 American presidents owned slaves, a fine start indeed.
The American revolution was more about liberty & freedom.

Less Taxation can be a freedom & liberty too.

Actually a lot of the time people for less taxation are actually less materialistic.

Liberal areas in the U.S tend to be far more materialistic than Conservative areas in the U.S

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Aug 13, 2012
 
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It's nothing like Ghandi at all, oh simple one. It's about greed and it always has been, Americans did not want to pay taxes and the simplest way to do that was by revolting, and Americans have been revolting ever since.
They dressed it up in a whole heap of bullshit using words like 'freedom' and 'liberty' whilst the first 12 American presidents owned slaves, a fine start indeed.
Ghandi's struggle against the British empire was very similar to what the American foudning fathers went up against.

It was in both cases about freedom & liberty from British opression.

Just the U.S was lucky enough to create the America revolution before Britain cracked down on complete gun control like they did in India.

So the U.S had a fighting chance.

Ghandi was forced to do peaceful protest because Britain had kept India's guns from them.

So a revolution with guns was pretty much out of the question in India.

This is very similar to what happened with the Polish Solidarity movement.

Polish people were forced to do a peaceful protest against Soviets because Soviets had disarmed Polish people.

The use of guns in the Polish Solidarity movement was pretty much out of the question in Soviet Poland.

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Aug 13, 2012
 
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It's amusing you got your information from a site which proclaims that it is helping 'Canada become part of the USA' Didn't you learn anything from 1812?
"For 1989-95, the average handgun homicide rate was 4.8 per 100,000 in the U.S., compared to 0.3 per 100,000 for Canada."
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa0...
If you used entire homicide levels Canada would be closer. If you only included White Americans vs White Americans it would be about equal it seems.
But we are not even completely sure. As the majority of Hispanic murder rates get included as White murder rates in the U.S DOJ statistics.

It is estimated that Whites only make up 28% of murders in the U.S

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Yeah murder is okay as long as it is not by a gun!

Ukraine has one of the lowest gun ownership rates in Europe.

The Dnepropetrovsk maniacs in Ukraine killed more people than James Holmes the cinema killer did.
The Dnepropetrovsk maniacs used hammers in bags to kill people.

Which is okay!

Murder is only wrong when it is by a gun!

Mexico has a lower gun ownership rate than the U.S or Canada but Mexico has a higher murder rate.

In Mexico the cartels beheaded hundreds of people with blades! Which is okay because killing with blades is okay!
It is only wrong when it is done by a gun duh!

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Aug 13, 2012
 
White Americans vs White Canadian murder rates****

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Aug 13, 2012
 
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There isn't any realistic excuse for keeping an AK47 in your house in normal domestic circumstances.
Yeah there is one...

Which is rebellion against an opressive government.

Yeah Soviets inveted the AK47 the Soviets just let trusted Soviet ass kissers in the Soviet miltary to have AK47's

While the rest of the public couldn't have AK47's & thus couldn't rebel against opressive Soviet rule.

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Yeah Britain has never been opressed by people disarming them.

So maybe Brits don't understand that.

But Brits themselves have disarmed people around the world as the Britsh empire opressed these people.

Now Brits are so willing to create British empire policies of opressive gun control on their own citizens.

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#52
Aug 13, 2012
 
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The title should say "white americans" They are the ones doing all the mass shooting.
Mass shootings only account for a ridiculously low percentage of all killings.

The worst mass shooter was actually the Korean American at Virginia tech.

Yet Asians have a very low murder rate in the U.S
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Aug 13, 2012
 
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It's so obvious, remove the guns and you remove the threat. Without a gun these psychos are just shouting pointless idiots.
Id rather say we removed the British and removed the threat of a tyrannic government. Now you unarmed imbecils are led around with a ring in your nose like a hog to slaughter. And the funny part is your king and queen idiotic government doesnt even allow the police to carry a firearm. But the amount of knife attacks was hovering around 140,000 a year last time I read anything about the nice peaceful place. You keep your crazy PC mentality there and pass a law only allowing butter knives. Thats all you fkn deserve.
America was made with firearms and our great Constitution states clearly, "The right of the citizen to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed!" Our founding fathers guaranteed us that right to avoid being taken over by overbearing azzholes like you! Long live Colt and the NRA!
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Aug 14, 2012
 
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Along with exporting MacDonalds you also exported the concept of the lone crazy gunman on a rampage, thanks for that. The point about Hungerford and Dunblane is they were committed by loons with legally held weapons, which is why they banned them here. There isn't any realistic excuse for keeping an AK47 in your house in normal domestic circumstances. I'm sure your recent rampages took place with legally held weapons. Remove the weapons and you go a long way to removing the threat.
You do make some valid points but unfortunately the British knife and assault culture lets you down, every week we hear of British people killing each other by knife or by being beaten to death.

I hate to say it but the Americans who say that the guns are not the problem are right, there is a much deeper problem as is highlighted by the knife culture.
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Aug 15, 2012
 
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You do make some valid points but unfortunately the British knife and assault culture lets you down, every week we hear of British people killing each other by knife or by being beaten to death.
I hate to say it but the Americans who say that the guns are not the problem are right, there is a much deeper problem as is highlighted by the knife culture.
I never said that all violent crime was gun related, nor that banning guns would eliminate violent crime because obviously it won't, violence is part of society and always will be because people are naturally violent, there are separate issues for the rise in knife related crime. But eliminating easy access to quick firing or automatic weapons goes a long way to eliminating the threat of pointless massacres where dozens of people are killed by an an inadequate individual with 'personal issues'. I've no doubt that if it wasn't for the banning of easy legal access to powerful firearms in the UK there would be many more US style massacres here, there are plenty of similar pointless losers here to the US nutters, but without easy access to guns to enact their desires they are merely impotent and pathetic individuals. That doesn't mean though that we are without threat from either illegally acquired guns used by nutters (Raul Moat) and gangsters, or possible terrorist weapons smuggled in like the IRA were fond of using.
There are underlying problems with most western societies but what makes America different is the unbelievably easy access to firearms of every kind, this makes it much more likely that when something happens which tips an individual over the edge, either personal issues, inadequacy, hatred of society et cetera they automatically reach for a gun and hence the high number of firearms related deaths and massacres. If you took their guns away you'd just be left with a bunch of pointless loudmouthed wankers.
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Ghandi's struggle against the British empire was very similar to what the American foudning fathers went up against.
Stop comparing the American war of independence to 'Ghandi's stuggle' you incredibly stupid Yank. For a start Ghandi didn't own any slaves, unlike most of the people pushing for the American Revolution.
The American revolution was always about greed, nothing else, and that continues to this day.
Halonen is Conan OBrien wrote:
<quoted text>It was in both cases about freedom & liberty from British opression.
I always laugh when I hear a dumb Yank tell me that. And all this went on while a 50 year old Thomas Jefferson was busy raping his 14 year old slave girl. The American revolution was always about greed and and making money and most importantly, not paying taxes. It was never about 'freedom' and 'liberty', that was just some bullshit they dressed it up in before they went back home and raped their slaves.
Halonen is Conan OBrien wrote:
Just the U.S was lucky enough to create the America revolution before Britain cracked down on complete gun control like they did in India.
You are a very silly Yank with typically no idea about history, even in your own country.
Halonen is Conan OBrien wrote:
So the U.S had a fighting chance.
Ghandi was forced to do peaceful protest because Britain had kept India's guns from them.
I can tell you are an idiot because you don't even know that the British Indian Army consisted mainly of Indians, the actual British content was very small, and guess what - all those Indian soldiers had guns. They even willingly fought for the British Empire in two world wars, the price for helping in WW2 was going to be Indian independence as agreed with Ghandi. Dope.
Halonen is Conan OBrien wrote:
So a revolution with guns was pretty much out of the question in India.
This is very similar to what happened with the Polish Solidarity movement.
Polish people were forced to do a peaceful protest against Soviets because Soviets had disarmed Polish people.
The use of guns in the Polish Solidarity movement was pretty much out of the question in Soviet Poland.
I've read this kind of stupidity before, that somehow you think that if everyone had a .44 magnum and a hunting rifle everything would have been fine throughout history.
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Aug 15, 2012
 
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I never said that all violent crime was gun related, nor that banning guns would eliminate violent crime because obviously it won't, violence is part of society and always will be because people are naturally violent, there are separate issues for the rise in knife related crime. But eliminating easy access to quick firing or automatic weapons goes a long way to eliminating the threat of pointless massacres where dozens of people are killed by an an inadequate individual with 'personal issues'. I've no doubt that if it wasn't for the banning of easy legal access to powerful firearms in the UK there would be many more US style massacres here, there are plenty of similar pointless losers here to the US nutters, but without easy access to guns to enact their desires they are merely impotent and pathetic individuals. That doesn't mean though that we are without threat from either illegally acquired guns used by nutters (Raul Moat) and gangsters, or possible terrorist weapons smuggled in like the IRA were fond of using.
There are underlying problems with most western societies but what makes America different is the unbelievably easy access to firearms of every kind, this makes it much more likely that when something happens which tips an individual over the edge, either personal issues, inadequacy, hatred of society et cetera they automatically reach for a gun and hence the high number of firearms related deaths and massacres. If you took their guns away you'd just be left with a bunch of pointless loudmouthed wankers.
Classic post, kudos.
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Aug 16, 2012
 
XRenXViolinX wrote:
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Funny, "negroos" are not usually the ones involved in random, pointless MASS shootings..lol
Pick up a newspaper or watch the TV news, dumbass...you black savages shoot and kill people every day.
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Aug 19, 2012
 
Water pistols are too much for Americans, they'd find a way to kill each other with them.
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Stoooooopid. The idiot couldn't even tell the difference between Sikhs and Muslims.
I remember reading that. It happened after the Twin Tower disaster. They spotted this turbaned Sikh, assumed that Arabs wore turbans and killed him. Assumed all Arabs are responsible for the Twin Tower disaster, assumed they had a right t be judge-jury and executioners and murdered him.
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Aug 19, 2012
 
I remember reading that. It happened after the Twin-Tower disaster.

They spotted this turbaned Sikh, assumed that Arabs wear turbans, assumed all Arabs are responsible for the Twin-Tower disaster, assumed they had a right to be judge, jury and executioners and proceeded to murder him.

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Aug 19, 2012
 
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Stop comparing the American war of independence to 'Ghandi's stuggle' you incredibly stupid Yank. For a start Ghandi didn't own any slaves, unlike most of the people pushing for the American Revolution.
The American revolution was always about greed, nothing else, and that continues to this day.
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I always laugh when I hear a dumb Yank tell me that. And all this went on while a 50 year old Thomas Jefferson was busy raping his 14 year old slave girl. The American revolution was always about greed and and making money and most importantly, not paying taxes. It was never about 'freedom' and 'liberty', that was just some bullshit they dressed it up in before they went back home and raped their slaves.
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You are a very silly Yank with typically no idea about history, even in your own country.
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I can tell you are an idiot because you don't even know that the British Indian Army consisted mainly of Indians, the actual British content was very small, and guess what - all those Indian soldiers had guns. They even willingly fought for the British Empire in two world wars, the price for helping in WW2 was going to be Indian independence as agreed with Ghandi. Dope.
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I've read this kind of stupidity before, that somehow you think that if everyone had a .44 magnum and a hunting rifle everything would have been fine throughout history.
So true about Thomas Jefferson, raping his late wife's half-sister, and then babbling that all men are created equal hypocrisy.

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#63
Aug 22, 2012
 
some of these dumb muthafuckas can't even be trusted with feather dusters, never mind a glock, that's for sure.
deyse disrespect me man

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Americans should be only able to arm themselves with lumps of cheese instead of automatic weapons.
well, that cheese will go with your whine.
deyse disrespect me man

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Aug 22, 2012
 
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I remember reading that. It happened after the Twin Tower disaster. They spotted this turbaned Sikh, assumed that Arabs wore turbans and killed him. Assumed all Arabs are responsible for the Twin Tower disaster, assumed they had a right t be judge-jury and executioners and murdered him.
yes , it is sad that some americans behave exactly like Moslems do. And Africa is the worst place on earth for killings, rapes, and all kinds of horrors.

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