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Seeing as how on a daily basis someone is released from jail after many years due to witness recantations, DNA or dubious eyewitness testimony, I don't doubt that!
I do not. It is a sick world out though and sadly it isn't "our"world.

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Ok I will get sucked in. I'm not new around these parts, just chose to leave this site alone for a while. As a girl who grew up without a father, I can say that a strong loving male figure (preferably the bio father) during the formative years of both females and males is very important. I have a problem with women who try to downplay the importance of a dad in their kids lives because she is mad at the man she chose to lay up with.

I am one of the only ppl in my whole family who grew up without a dad-and I can see a difference between women who had a loving dad in the home vs no dad or a distant father. Society at large is trying to downplay how important a dad is in the home. Children aren't stupid though, i'm sure if you ask a child who hasn't been poisoned by a bitter mother if they want their dad they'd say yes.

If women valued themselves more a lot of these fatherless homes would desist. A woman who commands respect for herself gets respect and honor from men. This is a concept that is lost in our community.

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Of course you would say this because Married With Children blamed black women and we all know how you just love to blame black women all the time.. I on the other hand refuse to believe that this large number of black women are just incompetent h8es that sleep with men knowing that these men would leave black women like the women wanted to be left alone with a child.. Sure.
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I think Married with children won the debate againsgt sxyblkwoman...her points made more sense and her views were more balanced. The fact is, bw have no excuse for choosing lousy men. If you pick a lousy guy, he's gonna leave you one way or another...or you will end up wishing he would leave. Women are the ones who choose...they can decide not to accept a man's offer of sex and they can decide to accept his offer but to protect themselves with contraception. Or they can accept his offer of sex, not use contraception and then either get an abortion whether the man wants to keep the baby or not or take him to court for child support whether he wanted the kids or not.
But really, bw should not be feel so defeated when it comes to the choice of available bm. If bw simply said :" I will not sleep with you, bm until you get a job, some sense of responsibility and put a ring on my finger" bm would change our ways...but bw love the thug image and they don't love "nerdy" bm who stay in school and try to delay material things for later. BW want it all right now...so, they get it fast and cheap.
Men will do whatever they need to do to get and keep the attention of a woman he wants..
Yes, bw can't control bm's actions, and men do abandon women...but if a bw vets her man and demands more of him, she will be in a better position than the women who had babies for desmond hatchett.
Plain ole stup8dity, because even if alot of black women did say this, a black man will just go to the next woman that will.. What most black women can do is to stop procreating with you irresponsible bast8ards all together! Because most of you are low life id8ts that spend your life blaming da white man and black women for your issues! If you are a killer you blame black women, if you are a rapist you blame black women, if you don't take care of your children you blame black women, everybody but yourselves you blame..

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<quoted text>Panma, as you can see, you can't fix stupid. You seem like a patient, thoughtful person who is open to the ideas of others. These characters such as dame and sexyblkwoman are not like that. They are frustrated with you because they don't understand how you could be a female and not be as emotionally and irrationally hateful as they are. They see everything you're saying is true. It's just that they can't bring themselves to ever ACCEPT it, because what you're dealing with is a lost generation of bw who never really were taught or learned how to respect bm or be fair to bm or cut bm any kind of slack. Now they old and stuck in their ways and it's confusing to them how you can be so fair to bm when all they can think of is ways to bash bm.
People like me are intelligent patient and logical people like you, believe in hocus pocus and how the white man is going to kill you and put you down etc.. When in reality the average white man can give a dxmn about you! People like you create threads about the opposite sex being IR when you yourself is in IR.. You really need to pull out the tampon out your a$$ and stop being a weak bxtch..

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Of course you would say this because Married With Children blamed black women and we all know how you just love to blame black women all the time.. I on the other hand refuse to believe that this large number of black women are just incompetent h8es that sleep with men knowing that these men would leave black women like the women wanted to be left alone with a child.. Sure.
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Plain ole stup8dity, because even if alot of black women did say this, a black man will just go to the next woman that will.. What most black women can do is to stop procreating with you irresponsible bast8ards all together! Because most of you are low life id8ts that spend your life blaming da white man and black women for your issues! If you are a killer you blame black women, if you are a rapist you blame black women, if you don't take care of your children you blame black women, everybody but yourselves you blame..
I blame BW and BM that are at fault. Big difference. BW have choices just like any other woman. My mom always said... "Lie down with dogs, and you are bound to get fleas". You pick a MAN, you will get a MAN. Real men do not leave their responsibilities. You can't read nor do you understand simple logic.

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I blame BW and BM that are at fault. Big difference. BW have choices just like any other woman. My mom always said... "Lie down with dogs, and you are bound to get fleas". You pick a MAN, you will get a MAN. Real men do not leave their responsibilities. You can't read nor do you understand simple logic.
False, you blamed black women not black men, when black women start killing and raping people than we can say hey, that is black women's fault, but for a man leaving??? Sorry but you can't make any man stay with you, and the dog reference should go to any man who leaves his child, a woman can only predict what she will do not another person will do FACT.
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False, you blamed black women not black men, when black women start killing and raping people than we can say hey, that is black women's fault, but for a man leaving??? Sorry but you can't make any man stay with you, and the dog reference should go to any man who leaves his child, a woman can only predict what she will do not another person will do FACT.
she seems to have a very difficult time understanding that sexyblkwoman. Unless the guy is flat out saying hes going to leave he can put on as much as he wants. she knows this. She wants bw to be seen in s negative light for having their kids and doing the best they can while also blaming them for picking males who will leave them. Its totally ridiculous.
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No man or woman can predict what someone else will do. People are to held accountable for their own actions. Males who leave their kids without support of any kind are wrong for that...and that has nothing to do with the woman. Women are not responsible for the actions of grown men.

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<quoted text> she seems to have a very difficult time understanding that sexyblkwoman. Unless the guy is flat out saying hes going to leave he can put on as much as he wants. she knows this. She wants bw to be seen in s negative light for having their kids and doing the best they can while also blaming them for picking males who will leave them. Its totally ridiculous.
LOL like I told her and others I refuse to believe that black women are just incompetent h8es that want to be left alone with kids to raise, no woman really wants that, so why believe such a negative thing about black women???? Nothing will ever make me view black women in the negative light because I'm a black woman and a black woman bore me.. I come from black women, some of my greatest allies were black women, so nope I will never believe that black women are just d8mb h8es that choose the wrong men on purpose.

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No man or woman can predict what someone else will do. People are to held accountable for their own actions. Males who leave their kids without support of any kind are wrong for that...and that has nothing to do with the woman. Women are not responsible for the actions of grown men.
Exactly! People are accountable for their own a very hard concept for most of these people.

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LOL like I told her and others I refuse to believe that black women are just incompetent h8es that want to be left alone with kids to raise, no woman really wants that, so why believe such a negative thing about black women???? Nothing will ever make me view black women in the negative light because I'm a black woman and a black woman bore me.. I come from black women, some of my greatest allies were black women, so nope I will never believe that black women are just d8mb h8es that choose the wrong men on purpose.
Well, if you're gonna base your whole argument on the fact that you a black woman so you simply refuse to see the shortomings of other bw, you should have just said that from the outset. I'm sure panma and MWC would have moved on. You made it look like you were actually trying to have a debate about the issues...but really, the issues don't matter to you. Defending bw at all costs and shifting the blame to bm is all that matters to you. Even in cases where bw are responsible for their choices and decisions, you still want to make it bm's fault. If you know a neighborhood is bad, and you leave your car unlocked overnight in that neighborhood with your valuables in it, how are you gonna say that you're not at least responsible in part for getting your sh8t stolen? Sure, nobody has a right to steal your stuff, but you made a conscious decision, knowing what the risks were. Same thing for bw who go into relationships with men who have no job, no prospects or education, no desire to get an education or improve themselves, who may be involved in dangererous criminal acttivity and the "thug life"...who don't want to have kids or a family, who ALREADY have several kids by different women and can't afford to take care of them, or just men who aint about sh8t...so they get involved with these men. and surprise, surprise, the man turns out to be no good. Ends up leaving them or going to jail or getting with other women or something like that. And you gonna blame just the men? How about accepting some of that responsibility for your fked up choices? So, the guy was cute or whatever...well, that's why they made a little something called CONTRACEPTION!...so you could fk the cute thug guy and NOT get pregnant. There's about 23 different forms of ocntraception. You gonna tell me, that it's all HIS fault you didn't use ONE?...But it's all good, I understsand. You're not interested in truth or none of that...you just don't want bw to have to accept and face the truth about what they really are.
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LOL like I told her and others I refuse to believe that black women are just incompetent h8es that want to be left alone with kids to raise, no woman really wants that, so why believe such a negative thing about black women???? Nothing will ever make me view black women in the negative light because I'm a black woman and a black woman bore me.. I come from black women, some of my greatest allies were black women, so nope I will never believe that black women are just d8mb h8es that choose the wrong men on purpose.
Exactly. I know plenty of seemingly good women who broke up with the dad and barely hears from the guy. It is what it is. Its nothing they can do about it as you cant make someone love someone else. Its ridiculous to say women are to blame for these guys making kids and leaving them. Especially when it becomes the majority of those choosing to have black kids!

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<quoted text>Well, if you're gonna base your whole argument on the fact that you a black woman so you simply refuse to see the shortomings of other bw, you should have just said that from the outset.
Its not hard to see any black womans's shortcoming, I just refuse to place blame on them for another person's actions... Black women can only take blame for what they did not what black men did, it is time you black men be brought to task for all the ills you cause the black community..
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I'm sure panma and MWC would have moved on. You made it look like you were actually trying to have a debate about the issues...but really, the issues don't matter to you. Defending bw at all costs and shifting the blame to bm is all that matters to you. Even in cases where bw are responsible for their choices and decisions, you still want to make it bm's fault. If you know a neighborhood is
Correct, black women are responsible for themselves not black men, this is where the blame goes on to you, because you left, black women didn't the ones single with kids choose the hardest route whereas the black men choose it the easy way out by not taking care of their kids.. Although MWC isn't into debating but blaming women for another person's choice, I place the blame where it needs to be ON THE MAN!
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bad, and you leave your car unlocked overnight in that neighborhood with your valuables in it, how are you gonna say that you're not at least responsible in part for getting your sh8t stolen? Sure, nobody has a right to steal your stuff, but you made a conscious decision, knowing what the risks were.
lmfao so let me get this straight you are comparing an object to a human being, and not only that you are blaming the victim for getting his shct stolen? LOL what's next is it the rape victims fault for getting raped because she was wearing revealing close?
LOL your analogy is d8mb, you want to know why? Because if its a bad neighborhood they would have broke the window and broken in anyways. LMFAO!
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Same thing for bw who go into relationships with men who have no job, no prospects or education, no desire to get an education or improve themselves, who may be involved in dangererous criminal acttivity and the "thug life"...
Oh please black men of economic status even leave women alone single with children, it don't matter what job they have something is just wrong with black male culture, when we have men like you and women like MWC it makes it easy for you to shuck off your , but responsibilities what you need to know is that if you want to be treated like a leader, you better act like one until that black women will treat you like lil boys because you act like little boys incapable of taking responsibilities blaming whitey blaming black women for all your problems, gets you know where.
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who don't want to have kids or a family, who ALREADY have several kids by different women and can't afford to take care of them, or just men who aint about sh8t...so they get involved with these men. and surprise, surprise, the man turns out to be no good. Ends up leaving them or going to jail or getting with other women
What is your point? Instead of blaming black women, you need to ask yourself why there is such large number of lousy black men, why this large number of black men seem to be incapable of taking care of their responsiblites? Why are these men going back to jail, why are these men creating kids with different women, why can't these men get a job, and it ain't the minority.. Because if there were a large number of great black men, stats will show this black women wouldn't be going on TV complaining that they can't find a good black men..

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orsomething like that. And you gonna blame just the men? How about accepting some of that responsibility for your fked up choices? So, the guy was cute or whatever...well, that's why they made a little something called CONTRACEPTION!.
Sorry the women are accepting responsibility already, they are paying for it with their youth time and body, by taking care of these kids, so h*ll no! It is time for the black men to raise up and be responsible I have never seen a race of men so incapable of taking responsibility, it is ridiculous even hispanic men are more responsible that black men, hispanic men sometimes come here illegally and work 2-3 jobs just to take care of their family, one can't say the same for black men.. Have you all ever heard of contraceptive? You got your nerves to come online complain about black women than turn around and say well black women choose these men, WELL I'LL use your same argument WELL BLACK MEN CHOOSE THESE BLACK WOMEN SO THEY NEED TO STOP CHOOSING GHETTO BLACK WOMEN AND CHOOSE THE right ones and maybe they won't have these problems.
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.so you could fk the cute thug guy and NOT get pregnant. There's about 23 different forms of ocntraception. You gonna tell me, that it's all HIS fault you didn't use ONE?...But it's all good, I understsand. You're not interested in truth or none of that...you just don't want bw to have to accept and face the truth about what they really are.
No id8t its fault for walking out on his blood, men also know that when you fck their is a chance that the woman will be pregnant instead of running away from your responsibility take care of it before it happens, because the women are handling theirs the men ain't.

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Exactly. I know plenty of seemingly good women who broke up with the dad and barely hears from the guy. It is what it is. Its nothing they can do about it as you cant make someone love someone else. Its ridiculous to say women are to blame for these guys making kids and leaving them. Especially when it becomes the majority of those choosing to have black kids!
Exactly I agree when they place the blame on black women for anothers action's what they are saying is that black women are just these d8mb h8es that can't choose men. Well if black women are just d8mb h8es than why leave child rearing up to black women anyways? If these black men can do better let them dictate than?!

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False, you blamed black women not black men, when black women start killing and raping people than we can say hey, that is black women's fault, but for a man leaving??? Sorry but you can't make any man stay with you, and the dog reference should go to any man who leaves his child, a woman can only predict what she will do not another person will do FACT.
Again, you can't read so I refuse to argue with you. You will never understand simple logic. Fact, most women who end up with loser men knew in the back of their mind he was a loser. They just refused to look for the signs. Time to stop with the pity party and start taking responsibility for your own actions. Men who leave suck. I get that. That wasn't my point. Women have a responsibility to chose better mates especially when they decide to have children.

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I agree.If a man leaves,its his fault.

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<quoted text> she seems to have a very difficult time understanding that sexyblkwoman. Unless the guy is flat out saying hes going to leave he can put on as much as he wants. she knows this. She wants bw to be seen in s negative light for having their kids and doing the best they can while also blaming them for picking males who will leave them. Its totally ridiculous.
You also have a hard time reading and comprehending. I am a BW, so why in the hell would I put them in a negative light. BW who chose dumb ass men are not going to get my sympathy. I believe they chose their fate. Unfortunately this also involves innocent children. Shame on the men who leave, and shame on the women who continue to pick losers. Btw. I know only black positive women who have chosen wonderful BM to be the fathers of their children. It isn't rocket science! Smh

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No man or woman can predict what someone else will do. People are to held accountable for their own actions. Males who leave their kids without support of any kind are wrong for that...and that has nothing to do with the woman. Women are not responsible for the actions of grown men.
But they are responsible to look for the signs of a loser man. The signs are usually there. Sorry. Also, if you don not know someone, wait to have sex, or use birth control. Amazing how it can prevent pregnancy. PEOPLE are responsible for their actions. Men who leave are ass holes. We can all agree on that. I am talking about actions leading to this situation. Women need to realize that you cannot change a man. Of he is living with his mother and jumping from job to job, chances are, he is not going to be a great husband or father. Just my perception. Also, just because he dresses nice, drives a nice car and talks a good game, doesn't mean he will be shot either. Use your brains. It's a simple as breathing.
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I agree.If a man leaves,its his fault.
As the English proverb states, "Three things drive a man from his house; smoke, rain, and a scolding wife."

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