Does Being Pro-Black Mean Your Anti-White?

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Since: Mar 07

Brooklyn, NY

#1 Mar 26, 2007
For me, the answer is no. Unfortunately, some people of other persuasions believe if I say or do something in favor of black people, I am making a statement against them.

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Since: Dec 06

Texas

#2 Mar 26, 2007
Ivy, dont even sweat it. I am well aware of the problems that lie within the black community. I am proud to be black! If you acknowledge that a black person made a mistake. The blacks swear it s self hate and your an uncle tom. If you say whites made a mistake, the whites say your lazy and looking for hand outs and blaming whitey. I personally dont give a dam I have a right to my opinion just as others i can only please 1 person at a time and my name is at the top of the list of the ppl to please. lol lol

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#3 Mar 26, 2007
I know that one has nothing to do with the other, but most people can't seem to make the distinction. I have experienced that on Topix with non black people, especially if it a thread that pertains to race.

“The Advocate”

Since: Dec 06

Cincy

#4 Mar 26, 2007
Heck no. And I agree with GS comment above.
The statements goes both ways and would be false in any form.

Since: Mar 07

Brooklyn, NY

#5 Mar 26, 2007
Exactly!
Greeneyedsista wrote:
I know that one has nothing to do with the other, but most people can't seem to make the distinction. I have experienced that on Topix with non black people, especially if it a thread that pertains to race.
ccheeksd

UK

#6 Mar 26, 2007
If being pro black means im anti-white, then ooooh well, F**K it!
If me loving my community and culture means im anti-white then i guess im anti-white then.
I feel this term was coined together by white people who dont like black people who show too much of an alligiance with their culture, the culture and race that doesnt fit there ideal.
I am pro black and proud. Being pro black is only seen as a negative to people who feel threatened or left out.

“~Sassy~ ”

Since: Dec 06

Sunny Southern California

#7 Mar 26, 2007
the funny thing is reverse it.. how many white people who claim they are proud to be white, are not anti black?

I think that is why I maybe be proud of my scandavian heritage, but never proud just of being white. White surpremasist have ruined the idea of being proud of being white in my mind.

“The Advocate”

Since: Dec 06

Cincy

#8 Mar 26, 2007
SassyJ wrote:
the funny thing is reverse it.. how many white people who claim they are proud to be white, are not anti black?
I think that is why I maybe be proud of my scandavian heritage, but never proud just of being white. White surpremasist have ruined the idea of being proud of being white in my mind.
Touche Sassy, touche.
Darkflower

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#11 Apr 15, 2007
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Willing Thinker

Youngstown, OH

#13 Apr 15, 2007
Greeneyedsista wrote:
I know that one has nothing to do with the other, but most people can't seem to make the distinction...
... and this is largely because the majority of groups that claim to be 'pro white' are usually 'racist' towards everyone else.
What 'most of the people' don't seem to realize is that this isn't an automatic fact.
They're basically being retarded. Their argument is:
If black groups can name themselves 'pro-black' than these pro white racist groups should also function.- utter retardation.
Willing Thinker

Youngstown, OH

#14 Apr 15, 2007
SassyJ wrote:
the funny thing is reverse it.. how many white people who claim they are proud to be white, are not anti black?
I think that is why I maybe be proud of my scandavian heritage, but never proud just of being white. White surpremasist have ruined the idea of being proud of being white in my mind.
Yes, although you should be.(just as anyone else should be proud of their heritage)

That's gay.
Darkflower

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#15 Apr 15, 2007
sgt steamer wrote:
You're stealing an old Malcolm X line.
"I'm pro-black, I'm not anti-white"
Interesting thing I was pondering ... White Supremacists say the same thing, but reversed. Actually, they aren't supremacists, they're seperatists. Personally, I don't have anything against seperatism, as long as they can do it without being unconstitutional. As long as they uphold the constitution, they can do what they like, right? It's just that they can't do it and expect any protection from the constitution or any of the benefits of being an engaged American.

If they find some other uninhabited tract of land, somewhere outside of the United States, they could probably get away with it. And what do I care? As long as they aren't trying to compell anyone else to abide by their way of life I mean.

What do people think? I mean, what's really wrong with seperatism, rather than supremacy? Theoretically speaking that is. Whether it's whites or blacks or anyone else?

Since: Mar 07

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#16 Apr 15, 2007
sgt steamer wrote:
You're stealing an old Malcolm X line.
"I'm pro-black, I'm not anti-white"
If I didn't know Malcolm X said it (and I didn't), then it isn't stealing. Just like I am not the first, I am sure he wasn't either. What is it they say, "Imitation Is The Finest Form Of Flattery."

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#17 Apr 15, 2007
Darkflower wrote:
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Interesting thing I was pondering ... White Supremacists say the same thing, but reversed. Actually, they aren't supremacists, they're seperatists. Personally, I don't have anything against seperatism, as long as they can do it without being unconstitutional. As long as they uphold the constitution, they can do what they like, right? It's just that they can't do it and expect any protection from the constitution or any of the benefits of being an engaged American.
If they find some other uninhabited tract of land, somewhere outside of the United States, they could probably get away with it. And what do I care? As long as they aren't trying to compell anyone else to abide by their way of life I mean.
What do people think? I mean, what's really wrong with seperatism, rather than supremacy? Theoretically speaking that is. Whether it's whites or blacks or anyone else?
I guess the real question is would either race be better off separating in the long run?
Darkflower

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#18 Apr 15, 2007
Ivy1 wrote:
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I guess the real question is would either race be better off separating in the long run?
Well, unfortunately I don't think ANYONE can survive well without somehow being involved with or competitve in the World Market. In fact, I was just watching a documentary about Fair Trade in African coffee farming, and the roadblocks thrown up to prevent that, thus keeping Africa dependent on relief from the international community. But that's another subject, and one liable to get me really really angry if I have to endure any garbage from the forum trolls.

But anyway, the point is, Africa is a CONTINENT of a majority of one race, and because they can't or aren't allowed to compete in the world market on an even scale, they remain in trouble in a lot of ways.

Since: Mar 07

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#19 Apr 15, 2007
Darkflower wrote:
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Well, unfortunately I don't think ANYONE can survive well without somehow being involved with or competitve in the World Market. In fact, I was just watching a documentary about Fair Trade in African coffee farming, and the roadblocks thrown up to prevent that, thus keeping Africa dependent on relief from the international community. But that's another subject, and one liable to get me really really angry if I have to endure any garbage from the forum trolls.
But anyway, the point is, Africa is a CONTINENT of a majority of one race, and because they can't or aren't allowed to compete in the world market on an even scale, they remain in trouble in a lot of ways.
Well you see, that is something we may want to weigh before we start talking about separation.
Darkflower

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#20 Apr 15, 2007
Ivy1 wrote:
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Well you see, that is something we may want to weigh before we start talking about separation.
True.

Since: Mar 07

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#21 Apr 16, 2007
Ivy1 wrote:
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If I didn't know Malcolm X said it (and I didn't), then it isn't stealing. Just like I am not the first, I am sure he wasn't either. What is it they say, "Imitation Is The Finest Form Of Flattery."
That would be "Imitation Is The Sincerest Form Of Flattery."

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Since: Apr 07

Saint Paul, Minnesota

#22 Apr 22, 2007
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franko

Canada

#23 Apr 23, 2007
Darkflower wrote:
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Well, unfortunately I don't think ANYONE can survive well without somehow being involved with or competitve in the World Market. In fact, I was just watching a documentary about Fair Trade in African coffee farming, and the roadblocks thrown up to prevent that, thus keeping Africa dependent on relief from the international community. But that's another subject, and one liable to get me really really angry if I have to endure any garbage from the forum trolls.
But anyway, the point is, Africa is a CONTINENT of a majority of one race, and because they can't or aren't allowed to compete in the world market on an even scale, they remain in trouble in a lot of ways.
business collusion is a common international practice. I knew someone whose father once had a leading newspaper in Taiwan. All his competitiors ganged up and forced him out of business.

No one wants new competition, especialy if they feel they are already sharing a too-small pie with too many competitors.

I don't think it matetrs where the new-comer was coming from ... the existing incumbents did not want new compeittion.

However, if the source of the goods is from an area where wages are lower than international averages, they probably also saw the newcomer as a bigger threat, because they would ahve offered lower prices and forced the profitaility in that a market to go down for everyone.

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