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Proud Sis wrote:
<quoted text>Wow...a BM..no a man who gets it..I'm so impress..You may have renewed my dying hope LOL
Even if there wasn't a"Black feminist movement"..there was a feminist movement in which it has (and would have) changed or impacted the smaller communities living within the mainstream (European)..just like every other social changes the majority involved themselves in (like the sexual revolution)...
He's awesome. I wonder does he have a cape on?? LOL.

You've made another excellent point. The movements of the majority absolutely affect the minority. We have no choice but to sway with the majority because majority rules. Smart minority groups control the information enough to still maintain some cultural relevance they can recognize but it's foolish to attempt to hold back the information altogether.
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Lol Proud Sis I didnt mean anything bad by the mom granny reference. The three of you are the only BW I know that know about G.E. Just made me think of childhood. No shade thrown:)

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Remember...
There's no such thing as "good" and "bad" feminism. Radical feminism-- in and of itself-- was and currently is in response to something STILL in place. Although controversial and disturbing in its speech-- it is very logical and fits the time(s), space, and place(s) where you can find it.
This is interesting. Do you think there is a place for extremism in all movements?

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what a fckin joke,your humanity?the same humanity YOU deny men especially bm?lmbao women ingeneral especially bw aint going throug nothin extra that other women AND men have to go through.go get a bucket for them fake azz tears.everything about yall now adays is about making males bow down to you on top of all the other special priveledges(that yall take for granted).yall get people arrested and killed just because of your gender and then some.stfu!!!!!!
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berriesgalore wrote:
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This is just a tear jerker post. You are so poetic with your words.
You've managed to express clearly how many of the bw I speak with feel ...somethings we can speak about in reference to just being women and race makes no difference...however, there are some things which is simply culture/race specific and only another insightful bw can truly understand what you are saying and get the true frustration sometime.
Essentially what some, like a couple on this thread have said, is that racism which works to strip away the humanity of a group is bad BUT sexism which works to strip away the humanity of women is a bother and should only be dealt with at the proper time.
It makes no sense how some applaud this struggle against racism but can't see the equaling damaging effects of sexism. Once racism and sexism are coupled together it's a wonder how bw are getting out of bed. We each want our humanity recognized and seen right now...not tomorrow or the day after. It's not a reasonable request in any way, shape or form to ask women born in America of all places to simply forget their humanity for someone elses cause.
'It's a wonder how bw are getting out of bed. We want our humanity recognized and seen right now....not tomorrow or the day after.'

Truer words..never spoken...

This is why our own movement is so critical. It has to happen now. The stakes are too high and we deserve better.
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*sometimes

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lol again.talk about all types of abuse,you stupid btches especially black ones expectmen(esp bm)to sit back and shut up and take yours with a smile,why???
you know the answer to that already.black trash and a fake azz pitty party.lmao
wah wah waaaah stop crying baby it's OK mommy is her for u...

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'It's a wonder how bw are getting out of bed. We want our humanity recognized and seen right now....not tomorrow or the day after.'
Truer words..never spoken...
This is why our own movement is so critical. It has to happen now. The stakes are too high and we deserve better.
I think as Proud said, bw have been making progress. Most enrolled in college etc with high graduation rates is excellent news. Oow is also dropping.

My comment was mostly geared toward those who believe bw should reserve themselves for the use of others, which is what I don't agree with. Our humanity is ours to own and doing things which are a positive toward self interest. Having self interest is good imo.

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berriesgalore wrote:
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I think as Proud said, bw have been making progress. Most enrolled in college etc with high graduation rates is excellent news. Oow is also dropping.
My comment was mostly geared toward those who believe bw should reserve themselves for the use of others, which is what I don't agree with. Our humanity is ours to own and doing things which are a positive toward self interest. Having self interest is good imo.
Cosign.You are very intelligent
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OK ladies have a great weekend! Check back next week!

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As Maya Angelou stated, I was never a fan of the feminist movement. I don't trust anything to allows the absence of love.
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Women's rights..much of the conversation has been centered around what a woman is physically and mentally capable of doing or what she should be allowed to do.. Let's discuss who women are..which isn't the totality of what she does (housewife, mother, career woman, or politician)..
Although, one should limit the amount of importance of those who opinions, beliefs, and hate seek only their selfish gratification by maintaining a status quo. However, one cannot successfully operate as a BW in isolation..so the temptation to dismiss the input of others is not the solution for societal discrimination. They should only be used as an informative measuring stick & temperature reader. It's not the job of BW to change the hearts & minds of bigots. But it is our responsible to influence society to evolve with us...securing our "value" and rights.
So the feminist movement and it's off-shot..the black feminist movement been "one-sided" victories in some cases..allowing us to gain some advancements at the cost of some losses..Though "we" have successfully legislated public policy..what about the attitudes of those within the society? Some may argue it's unimportance on one's daily life..however.."we" don't live in a bubble. So we do "depend" on others for companionship, jobs, etc.

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Proud Sis wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =PlxgMo0t9A8
The Intersection of Race, Gender, and Ethnicity in Higher Ed
Really, really enjoyed the last speaker. She has a very accomplished career path. Finished law school by 22??!?? WOW.

She said though that race and gender are tied together. I just wonder now if there will ever be a way around that if that is desirable? Maybe that's why there are different ethnicities established ..it creates a separation in the mind from the actual race??..

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Cosign.You are very intelligent
Thank you! So are you :)

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OK ladies have a great weekend! Check back next week!
Have a good week!!

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Modern women may have been born in the 80s and 90s, but we have mothers, grandmothers, and aunts who were not..and SOME of them have a very different version of events of their lifestyles with SOME BM at the time..it wasn't all roses as some men like to paint..I will admit..my dad did bring his check home and gave it all to my mother (Didn't know that was common for good BM of his day..I'm happy to hear that) and I will also admit..I couldn't touch my mother on my best day..she will outshine me on her worse day...I will also admit my grandma is also amazing..however..her life with my grandfather was pure hell and it is with these BW that the need for such protection was well established and supported.
And what produce many women like my mother were good, hard working and loving men like my father..and what produce a Black feminist movement was cold-hearted and abusive BM like my grandfather. If today's women lack the spiritual reflections of their mothers..what can only flip the coin..because men and women are one and the same.
I do believe many BM have a distorted view of those days seemly because these older women hide a lot of truth about their fathers and grandfathers with the males/boys (as well as young girls) to preserve the dignity of these men, herself, and the family.. A lot of abuse was kept in the closet.
It is the very idea that women's existences revolves around everyone else (men, children, the community)and nothing caters to her..that shrinks her humanity in the interest of securing the value of everyone...whereas a woman is only worth what she can give..not for being a human (like everyone else)..
I also find it fascinating the thought of WW no longer being feminist activist..as if they return back to the homes..playing soccer mom..it's laughable..WW are out-educating WM..and Women’s labor force participation accounts for almost 50%..and we all know AAW are only like 8% of the population..and by 2020..they are expected to surpass men..Who exactly are all these women out employing men..it's WW..the most powerful and numerical number of women in the country..so I will state again..men will never properly address the gender relations by giving WW a pass and pretending WW have suddenly become enlightened to how to interact with men. WW are simply enjoying the privilege of brainwashing both black and white men to submit to her whims while blaming minority women.

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Have a good week!!
You too :)

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Lol Proud Sis I didnt mean anything bad by the mom granny reference. The three of you are the only BW I know that know about G.E. Just made me think of childhood. No shade thrown:)
Ha..I know sis..it was funny..You have a great weekend too..hope you have some good plans?:)

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drugsaredumb wrote:
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Cosign.You are very intelligent
agree..She's great!
and your point here were amazing as well

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berriesgalore wrote:
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This is interesting. Do you think there is a place for extremism in all movements?
I would love to read his answer to your question..

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berriesgalore wrote:
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Really, really enjoyed the last speaker. She has a very accomplished career path. Finished law school by 22??!?? WOW.
She said though that race and gender are tied together. I just wonder now if there will ever be a way around that if that is desirable? Maybe that's why there are different ethnicities established ..it creates a separation in the mind from the actual race??..
interesting..I would also add "class".. is looped to race & gender..so it makes no sense for those who take the position that you can wait on focusing on one part of the struggle...Those who fight against racism has to address the sexism element their women face... as well as the classism that their poor face...They are intertwined..systematically so..to keep the whole group down.. You cannot effectively fight against racism....if you understand that individual(and collective) attitudes & actions function to maintain or dismantle culture norms (including sub-cultures)..

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