The truth about sex trafficking.

The truth about sex trafficking.

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#1 Jan 27, 2013
I'm sick of all the lies about sex trafficking. As someone who has traveled and been around the world, I have a different perspective than most. It's my opinion that this whole anti-sex traffic movement is agenda-driven. Let's look at some facts.

- MOST female prostitutes around the world are not sex slaves. They go into sex trafficking voluntarily to provide for their poor, destitute families or to feed their drug habit. They are NOT victims...they are WORKERS looking for a quick buck.

- MOST women involved in sex trafficking have the ability to leave that lifestyle whenever they want to. there's stories of women leavin that lifestyle every day.

- People who advocate against sex trafficking are mostly old, fat women who can't find a man. They're not heroes. They have their own agenda.

- A lotta western (white) women have a problem with sex trafficking in places like asia and africa and latin america a lot more than they have a problem with sex trafficking in europe, including eastern europe.

- Even when these sex workers say that sex trafficking is "the worst job they ever had" they are lying. the fact is they STILL do it...would you continue doing a job you absolutely hated for years and years or would you find something that was a little more bearable?

- All these NOBLE intentions and characterizations of sex workers as VICTIMS is bullsh8t. This is nothing more than women who want to control men's sexual behavior, so they hide behind the cause of protecting these poor, victimized women from sexual exploitation. I've seen women in the military who had full-time jobs and respect and everything and they STILL agreed to let guys fk them for money. some women are hoes, and that's it. but more to the point, many women just see sex work as an occupation that pays pretty good... thoe same do-gooders trying to stop sex trafficking wouldn't lift a finger to help the desperately poor, oppressed women involved in the sex trade if those women were working in sweat shops or slaving for peanuts in on a farm right here in america.

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#3 Jan 27, 2013
Fact is, with changing demographics, men and women in america and the west are getting married less and less. women's liberation and divorce laws have turned men against marriage and especially marriage to a western or american woman. in other words, the chickens are coming home to roost and western women are starting to see the consequences of choices they made back in the day...besides, there are more women than men. as the populations of america and the west get older, those women find that men get more and more scarce and in many cases, those men are turned off by the behavior and attitudes of western women. those men want to be with younger, more exotic foreign women with great personalities. as men get older, their stock goes up. so, an older man is a lot more attractive to a younger woman than an older woman is to a younger man. knowing all this, some of these women want to stop men from seeking out younger, foreign women from asia, latin america and africa. Thus all this "concern" about sex trafficking. they act like they're trying to protect these poor, third world women from victimization...but really what they're doing is looking out for their OWN interests.
Weasel cheese

Slough, UK

#4 Jan 27, 2013
WoW excellent and informed post.

I agree with almost everything. The only thing i would say is some women are forced into it.

But most to it williingly. The same women who would ho for years, could only keep up a cashier job at walmart for a few days.

Look at porn stars. Imo with porn stars they dont make alot of money anyway. So they do it for other reasons. Not just money.

Maybe some do it because they really do give less of a crap about morallity and dont mind doing orgys on film for a few bucks. That their future husbands, kids etc will be able to find on the internet.

Alot of people have a hard time accepting some women are like that.

Just like some men will go and shoot inocent people for a pay cheque.

Also the new lynda lovelace film makes her out to be a victim.

But i saw a documentry of her, and it showed in the end after she quit porn and turned against it, she then went back and done some porn again.

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#6 Jan 27, 2013
Weasel cheese wrote:
Alot of people have a hard time accepting some women are like that.
this is a very important point. a lotta this is cultural. the image of women in america, even though it's slowly changing, is still that they're not really supposed to be overtly sexual...they're supposed to be sex objects... more status conscious than men and concerned about their reputation. in reality, women are no different from men...a lot of them just don't give a sh8t...and even more are very promiscuous and "loose". we, as a society need to stop putting women on some kind of moral pedestal and learn to see them as they really are, that there are many that are capable of all kinds of fked up behavior...and not because some man victimized them. that's just how they are. A woman like "snookie" is a great example of this. A lot of them just aren't fit to be anybody's mother or wife. Of course there are some moral women out there too, just as there are some great ones.
Jeff Lewis

United States

#7 Feb 19, 2013
According to the media hype There was supposed to be hundreds of thousands of under age child sex slaves kidnapped and forced to have sex with super bowl fans. At the Dallas Super Bowl 2011. WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL OF THEM??????????

It was all a big lie told by Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, government officials, and various anti-prostitution groups: Traffick911, Not for Sale, Change-org, A Future Not A Past, Polaris Project, Salvation Army, Women’s Funding Network, and the Dallas Women’s Foundation, which are anti-prostitution groups that tell lies in order to get grant money from the government and charities to pay their high salaries, and get huge amounts of money into their organizations.

As proved in the link below:
Top FBI agent in Dallas (Robert Casey Jr.) sees no evidence of expected spike in child sex trafficking:

“Among those preparations was an initiative to prevent an expected rise in sex trafficking and child prostitution surrounding the Super Bowl. But Robert Casey Jr., special agent in charge of the FBI’s Dallas office, said he saw no evidence that the increase would happen, nor that it did.

“In my opinion, the Super Bowl does not create a spike in those crimes,” he said.“The discussion gets very vague and general. People mixed up child prostitution with the term human trafficking, which are different things, and then there is just plain old prostitution.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/super-bowl/l...

This myth of thousands or millions of underage sex slaves tries to make every sports fan a sex criminal. No matter what the sport is, or in what country it is in.

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Since: Jan 10

Orlando, FL

#8 Feb 19, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
I'm sick of all the lies about sex trafficking. As someone who has traveled and been around the world, I have a different perspective than most. It's my opinion that this whole anti-sex traffic movement is agenda-driven. Let's look at some facts.
- MOST female prostitutes around the world are not sex slaves. They go into sex trafficking voluntarily to provide for their poor, destitute families or to feed their drug habit. They are NOT victims...they are WORKERS looking for a quick buck.
- MOST women involved in sex trafficking have the ability to leave that lifestyle whenever they want to. there's stories of women leavin that lifestyle every day.
- People who advocate against sex trafficking are mostly old, fat women who can't find a man. They're not heroes. They have their own agenda.
- A lotta western (white) women have a problem with sex trafficking in places like asia and africa and latin america a lot more than they have a problem with sex trafficking in europe, including eastern europe.
- Even when these sex workers say that sex trafficking is "the worst job they ever had" they are lying. the fact is they STILL do it...would you continue doing a job you absolutely hated for years and years or would you find something that was a little more bearable?
- All these NOBLE intentions and characterizations of sex workers as VICTIMS is bullsh8t. This is nothing more than women who want to control men's sexual behavior, so they hide behind the cause of protecting these poor, victimized women from sexual exploitation. I've seen women in the military who had full-time jobs and respect and everything and they STILL agreed to let guys fk them for money. some women are hoes, and that's it. but more to the point, many women just see sex work as an occupation that pays pretty good... thoe same do-gooders trying to stop sex trafficking wouldn't lift a finger to help the desperately poor, oppressed women involved in the sex trade if those women were working in sweat shops or slaving for peanuts in on a farm right here in america.
Child trafficking & other sex trafficking is real. Many poor countries do NOT have tight laws to PROTECT their citizens from men/women who exploit them or their children or have them on camera performing sexual acts.
Hirohitos Surprise

Tiverton, RI

#9 Feb 19, 2013
The Asians lead the world in sex slaves. Cambodia and Thailand are the worst.
allthembrothers

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Feb 19, 2013
OL Rah get waht u saying DESSMOND,,,fact tis he think most wwomen here some prosstute anyway,,,,,,they had been trade them puccy 4 that COMFORT and them WEALTH u draw,,,,,,,

,,,and WOE un2 them honk who loose they money,,,,,cuz them white hoes divoirce u punk honk a$$ ina hot minnit if u aint got it no more,,,,

RAH feel u2 REDEFNIED,,,,kids is helpliss,,,and them cuountry SUPPORT them sex work sometime,,,,,,had been payoff from them criminal bussinesman,,,,

,,,,
Atari

Ashburn, VA

#11 Feb 19, 2013
I didn't know that this Desmond character was such a sick bastard.
Giggs

Gillingham, UK

#12 Feb 19, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
Ive agreed with everything you have said on this issue.

Interesting thread.

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#13 Feb 20, 2013
Hirohitos Surprise wrote:
The Asians lead the world in sex slaves. Cambodia and Thailand are the worst.
I've been to thailand and the philippines. those women are NOT slaves. They can come and go as they please. nobody is keeping them chained down. If you go to thailand you can pick up a woman from a bar and take her to your hotel, half an hour away...nobody knows she's with you or what hotel you took her to, because you don't have to tell anybody. If you want, you can keep that woman for as many days as you want...the only reason she would go back to the mama-san is because she knows you will eventually leave the country and if she doesn't go back to the mamasan they won't let her work there anymore. That sounds the LEAST bit like slavery to me.

But there's more....What happens is, a lotta servicemen end up MARRYING these women...and the women travel with them back the the states...then those women start to slut around in the states just like they did back in thailand or cambodia. THe only difference is, they're not getting paid for it. They do it because they love the nightlife and the free drinks and the promiscuous sex. I have MANY buddies who have hooked up with those type of women in Norfolk and san diego. Married women from thailand, cambodia and the philippines who sleep with a different random guy they meet in bars every week while their husbands are away on deployment..so, tell me how these "poor" women are so "victimized."

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#14 Feb 20, 2013
Redefined wrote:
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Child trafficking & other sex trafficking is real. Many poor countries do NOT have tight laws to PROTECT their citizens from men/women who exploit them or their children or have them on camera performing sexual acts.
I'm not talking about child trafficking...I believe child sex trafficking is sex slavery...I'm talking about adult women who work in the bars in tijuana or phuket or rio or manila...those women could easily walk away whenever they feel like it. If they're being held captive against their will, they would be locked in a room in the basement of a building with security guards, etc...that's not how it is. Those women actually leave their homes and travel to those cities so they can get those jobs in order to help provide for their starving brothers and sisters and parents back home. It's a lie that the majority of hookers in those countries are sex slaves...it's a conspiracy to prevent men from paying them for sex, to that men will be forced to look to the women of developed countries that are starting to feel neglected.

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#15 Feb 20, 2013
The mentality of a prostitute is that some women are just hoes...they like to be hoish. But it's not considered a socially acceptable behavior to be hoish...so, these hoes need a pimp, to be their patsy. The pimp plays the role of the man who is forcing the poor woman to sell her body...he's the bad guy. Not her...she's just a poor, misguided victim. So the pimp is the alibi...he becomes the EXCUSE for these women being hoes. Now they have a pimp "forcing" them to walk the streets, they can hoe to their hearts content... now, if they come across some crazy dude who beats them up, the pimp is supposed to protect them...but has anybody EVER seen a pimp step in to PROTECT a hooker? MOst pimps are not gonna put their own life on the line for a few bucks. These guys lack character anyway...they're punks allowing themselves to be scapegoated for the hookers comfort. They're not gonna FIGHT a john. That's NOT really why they're there... they're there to give the hooker mental comfort that she has a sh8t shield to absorb some of the social and moral consequences of her actions.

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#16 Feb 20, 2013
**scapegoated for the hookers convenience.

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#17 Feb 20, 2013
Part of giving the hooker mental comfort is the pimp slappin her around every once in a while...that helps to reinforce the feeling in her mind that SHE works for HIM...and that if it wasn't for this dude, she would be on her way to achieveing great things in life. In reality, he works for HER. Fact is, NO man can make a woman do what she doesn't want to do. Any of them hookers can just walk off the job and go somewhere else whenever they feel like it and there's NOTHING the pimp can do about it. But hookers know what they do is wrong and profane... By lettin the pimp slap her around, it takes away the guilt...it's like a kid who knows they been doing something wrong and it bothers their conscience, so they want their parents to punish them so they don't feel so guilty. That's the mentality of a hooker...
Sadbuttrue

Woodbridge, VA

#18 Feb 20, 2013
Carol--LouLou-MACEO wrote:
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Actually I discuss this online but rarely think about it in my day to day life.
I agree Europeans portray reality more than American whites but.....
If they only show older WW that want blk dyck,
Its not just older WW doing this in Africa, from younger to old....
in Detroit too.
MACEO

Sadly it shows how lowly Black males are when they are at a place where they have to prostitute themselves as a "Release" for poor Older White women tourist!

Actually that's an insult for most men! It takes away their position as men! LMAO

This mostly happened with women from Poor Countries do these things but rarely does any male ever prostitute themselves!

That's a position of "powerlessness and hopelessness!!!!

Prostitution has never benefited a race of people it keeps you "Oppressed" and tells you that your subject to your MASTER who ever can pay the small fee! It also saps your youth and subjects you to your MASTERS desires and diseases.

Very sad MACEO!

That's actually quite pathetic and the behaviors will validate their not worth much but a Sexual release to be tossed aside!
hmm

Atlanta, GA

#19 Feb 20, 2013
It's just amazing that these women would rather sell their body then go get a job! I guess they do what they know best? It's like they want to give up being responsible adults and just hoe it up. Others feel they have no choice. They feel its whats their good at and it pay the bills.

I just don't understand why women don't just get a boy friend(s) and get money from him. You would still get money, could get him to pay a bill or two, and could have a place to stay some nights if not permanent. I think thats better than being a hoe. Out of all the hoes I'm sure it's one dude that would take care of them and even love them. They would rather hoe it up because not what they are looking for. Hoe gone be a Hoe.

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