Ancient Africa's Black Kingdoms

“esa hembra es mala”

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#224 Feb 20, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
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You're uneducated, yet you presume to speak to me of these matters, cretin?
DE is not African. This is well known. Afronazi attempts to make this into evidence for Africans in America are absurd... well, as absurd as everything you Afronazi culture-vultures say.
Your ownership of every Snoop Dogg CD does not constitute culture, imbecile. Face it, you're an Afro-whitey Yank full of pop schlock culture and no education.
LMFAO you sound like you're bout to cry instead of whining and blowing a head gasket why don't you try to disprove what's being presented?

Explain DE in African groups?

So your claim is that AA culture is based on Rap music? Speak up and don't make yourself look st*pid you pathetic m0ron.

“Leading the Revolution”

Level 6

Since: Oct 09

United States

#225 Feb 20, 2013
Barros again here's a link about African in America, I know we just went a made this stuff up.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#226 Feb 20, 2013
SEXYBLKWOMAN wrote:
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LMFAO you sound like you're bout to cry instead of whining and blowing a head gasket why don't you try to disprove what's being presented?
Explain DE in African groups?
So your claim is that AA culture is based on Rap music? Speak up and don't make yourself look st*pid you pathetic m0ron.
You know so little...

DE would be only one of a number of Eurasian types found in Africa. J is all over the place, especially northeast and north. R is in West Africa.

D is nowhere near Africa. DE is considered Eurasian.

No, not AA culture, YOUR culture. I am well aware of a real AA culture which has long existed, but you modern Yanks are a waste, white or black. That is my point there, not something racist as you will try to make it.

Face it, you are just another Afronazi here NOT to talk about African kingdoms, no, you will be busy claiming someone else, which is what you're now doing, trying to pretend Africans were in America. Africa isn't good enough for you, no you have to be an Olmec Berber Hebrew Chinese Viking.

It's a mental problem.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#227 Feb 20, 2013
dkanela wrote:
Barros again here's a link about African in America, I know we just went a made this stuff up.
You don't get it. You have nothing!

I am aware of the archaeology and cultural anthropology of America, especially Mexico, and there was nobody else here! Africans did not create any cultures in America! Nothing!

There were 2 known contacts. One, the Viking settlement which failed and had no effect. Two, a Chinese ship made a map of the coast of southern Chile in the 14th century. The contact by Polynesians which was thought to exist has been disproven by further analysis of chicken DNA in Peru.

You don't get this either... you're so hot to promote your own people, but in claiming America you are stealing civilizations from Native Americans? You don't think they've had enough stolen from them yet? And now you're going to even take their past? No, I don't think so.

The Olmecs are proven by archaeological evidence from numerous sites to have come from SOCONUSCO. An early version of a large round stone head has been found there.

Give it up. Stick to Africa.

Garamantes... Ghana... Igbo kingdoms, Yoruba kingdoms, Benin... Akan, Ashante...

Leave America alone.
Phoenix

Houston, TX

#228 Feb 20, 2013
I'm not a historian, but there's to much similarity between Olmecs and African relics and art to dismiss.

My husband and I believe that Africans were in the Western Hemisphere prior to the arrival of Europeans.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#229 Feb 20, 2013
Phoenix wrote:
I'm not a historian, but there's to much similarity between Olmecs and African relics and art to dismiss.
My husband and I believe that Africans were in the Western Hemisphere prior to the arrival of Europeans.
What similarity are you referring to?

Have you seen Olmec art? I have. That stuff looks like chinese babies. No African art looks like that.

I own several African art books, and I've never seen anything like that ever. African art doesn't even look like the Olmec stone heads.

“esa hembra es mala”

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#230 Feb 20, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
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You know so little...
DE would be only one of a number of Eurasian types found in Africa. J is all over the place, especially northeast and north. R is in West Africa.
LOL J is rare in Africa and some that do carry J it's indigenous to them like Ethiopians etc...

The clade R is restricted to west Africa.

LOL there is no way since DE is a rare clade that Native Americans could have gave west Africans it. So explain yourself.
Barros Serrano wrote:
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D is nowhere near Africa. DE is considered Eurasian.
No, not AA culture, YOUR culture. I am well aware of a real AA culture which has long existed, but you modern Yanks are a waste, white or black. That is my point there, not something racist as you will try to make it.
LOL reading is fundamental. Honestly did you read the link that was posted?

You do realize that i'm AA? Keep on making yourself look st*pid.
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
Face it, you are just another Afronazi here NOT to talk about African kingdoms, no, you will be busy claiming someone else, which is what you're now doing, trying to pretend Africans were in America. Africa isn't good enough for you, no you have to be an Olmec Berber Hebrew Chinese Viking.
It's a mental problem.
LOL and you're just another assclown here on the aa FORUM obsessed with us blacks worried about what we're talking about. LOL you can't change the fact that this is a free country and people can discuss what they want.

And to let you know you're a brain dead m0ron. There were and still are black berbers 0o0
trollslayer

Thornton, IL

#231 Feb 20, 2013
Phoenix wrote:
I'm not a historian, but there's to much similarity between Olmecs and African relics and art to dismiss.
My husband and I believe that Africans were in the Western Hemisphere prior to the arrival of Europeans.
http://www.bing.com/images/search...
Phoenix

Houston, TX

#232 Feb 20, 2013
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>What similarity are you referring to?

Have you seen Olmec art? I have. That stuff looks like chinese babies. No African art looks like that.

I own several African art books, and I've never seen anything like that ever. African art doesn't even look like the Olmec stone heads.
http://www.google.com/search...

http://www.abibitumikasa.com/forums/connectio...

Please read above link. I don't claim to be a historian. I'm just merely offering my opinion.
Phoenix

Houston, TX

#233 Feb 20, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
Sir, it clearly looks African in origin to me.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#236 Feb 20, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
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You are claiming other peoples rightful histories...That is a crime against humanity.
You people come from sub-Saharan Africa...Bottom line.
You had no recorded history except from scholars of the Arab, The Berber or the European...bottom line.
Yes, Africans did have recorded history, fool.

For starters, Griots were responsible for memorizing centuries of historical events in their heads. Much of what we know about West and Central Africa comes from these people.

As far as written recorded history, we have various accounts there as well.

Abdurrahman Es-Sadi was a BLACK African scholar who was born in Timbuktu in 1596, and he wrote the Tarikh-es-Sudan, which has prove one of the most important primary source for the history of the Songhay Empire.

Hausa people wrote the "Kano Chronicle", that depicts what life was like in the Hausa states.

We know that, when the Fulani people had taken over Hausaland left a collection of over 250 books and essays of scholarly erudition in theoretical and practical studies.

There has been a long history of literacy in Sudan and Ehtiopia as well, stretching back to ancient times.

"Until recently, many commentators on Africa claimed that African societies had no tradition of writing. With the rediscovery of ancient manuscript collections, some dating back to the 8th century AD, this perception is changing.

Approximately 250,000 old manuscripts still survive in modern Ethiopia. Thousands of documents from the medieval Sudanese empire of Makuria, written in eight different languages were unearthed at the southern Egyptian site of Qasr Ibrim. Thousands of old manuscripts have survived in the West African cities of Chinguetti, Walata, Oudane, Kano and Agadez.

Despite the many dangers posed by fire, floods, insects and pillaging, some one million manuscripts have survived from the northern fringes of Guinea and Ghana to the shores of the Mediterranean. National Geographic estimates that 700,000 manuscripts have survived in Timbuktu alone."

http://www.understandingslavery.com/index.php...

You people who obviously don't know crap about African history should just shut the hell up...before you get spanked.

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#237 Feb 20, 2013
This website is interesting only in that it provides ancient images of findings, along with their carbon dating, but (personally) I ignore the author's interpretation of what I'm looking at. I like to decide for myself what I'm looking at; then I use my own intelligence to use the information (world history) that I already know, or I do even more research, so I can come to my own logical and rational decision/conclusion about what I've read, seen and heard about ancient people, i.e., what they may have looked like, e.g., skin color, possibly hair texture and facial features, but I totally reject the European creation of race, e.g., Asian, Middle Eastern, African (e.g., North African, Khiokhio, KhioSan, Bantu, Afro-Asiatic, Caucasian, etc...). European, Northern Indian (e.g., Caucasian), Southern India (Dravidian). Asia has original tribes still there who look just like the San of South Africa--they are one of the original people of Asia, in my opinion, and no one will ever be able to provide documentation to convince me otherwise, but I also believe that they lived along side other dark-skinned asians with straight hair, like today's Dravidians. The same is my own personal opinion about the Ancient people of many Middle Eastern dynasties--I believe that they were much darker than today's Middle Easterners, but I also believe that there may have been some lighter-skinned (non European) Ancient people who lived in the Middle East during the same time as their dark-skinned neighbors.

In African, you have the extinct people known as Khoikhoio, and the (greatly reduced in number) people called the KhoiSan or San who lived as neighbors in the South African region, before the Dutch arrived and took the territory. These people were not far from where their other neigbors the Zulu and the Xhosa lived; all four groups look different from one another--while the Khoikhoi were hurders and the KhoiSan were hunter/gatherers, they both resemble each other, but I believe that the KhoiKhoi were a bit taller than the San. The Xhosa looks like a mix between the Zulu people and the San people (e.g., Nelson Mandela), and the Zulu have their own unique look. In just South Africa, you have uniquely, different looking natives (who are not White or caucasian), but have different skin complexion and facial features. Using logic, reasoning and common sense, many people, including myself, would argue that the original people of the Middle East and Asia had different looking people--even today, the Cambodians are dark-skinned, and while they resemble their Dravidians neighbors in South East Asian as far as skin color, they're facial features (e.g., eyes, cheek bones) are closer to East Asians (e.g., Chinese, South Korean, etc...) facial features.

I also disregard DNA arguments, since there's no such thing as DNA or Genes displaying race--DNA or genes can only determine an approximate location or region that an individual person's ancestors may have lived in, but it doesn't show where every last one of an individual's ancestors lived, i.e., one male ancestor for each generation is provided in these DNA tests, while the others are not. Each person has 2 parents, 4 grandparents (2 grandfathers), 8 great grandparents (4 great grandfathers), but DNA will only show a person's father, one grandfather, one of his 4 great grandfathers, etc... The same is the case for the maternal lineage. DNA does not and can not be used as an accurate tool for determining the total history from beginning to end of a group of people's original phenotype--it only shows small portions of an individual's lineage, but as I've stated: it doesn't provide a picture of a person's entire DNA history.

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#238 Feb 20, 2013
Since most African Americans are parternally mixed during the slavery era, most of our paternal DNA will show European results for our paternal lineage from our paternal great great great German, slave-master, grandfather backwards, which would leave one to believe that we didn't come from Africa. This is exactly what has been done with Egyptians and Middle Easterners. Because paternal societies have existed in Africa, the Middle East and even Rome and Italy, you will most likely see the results of European DNA in any and all groups of people who have been conquered by people of European descend, which is deceptive. If we do DNA tests on Coloreds of South Africa, most of the great great great grandfathers backwards will be European; thus that DNA results will show that Europeans where first, when in actuality they were not, but paternal DNA result will continue to trace the line of the paternal lineage of the European males who mated with Native South Africans (mostly Khiokhio women). DNA must be ignore.

I believe that if we focused on maternal DNA for these groups, you'd find that they female lineage was indeed different from the paternal DNA results for the Ancients.

Check out this site--it has many images of ancient busts, coins and artifacts, but don't allow the author to influence your opinons about what the Ancients may have looked like. You'll should do your own research to arrive at your own answers/conclusions, based on your own logic and reasoning.
http://realhistoryww.com/index.htm
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...

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#240 Feb 20, 2013
One more thing: no Black person should get mad at White people when they say that some Egyptians were slaves, because they're correct! Ancient Egypt, just like many other African (including South African) nations had slaves--black slaves of lesser status. Slavery has always existed in Africa and in the Middle East, but it was never based on skin color--it was based on family lineage and status--nothing more or less. Only the European version of slavery was based on color. Even in North Africa, long before Europeans came to the region, a slave would be freed if he or she was born from the union of a slave woman and a noble man or sheikh. I've been reading facts stated by both blacks and whites on this thread, but I've also been reading both Afrocentrism and Eurocentricism on this thread from both sides.

I notice that the online spell-checker has Afrocentrism in its dictionary, but it doesn't have Eurocentrism in it's dictionary. It wants me to use Ethnocentrism versus Eurocentrism. This makes Europeans look even worst to non-Europeans, because it shows a clear attempt to control history and verbiage that makes Black people look desperate to claim history, while making Europeans look justified in their views by not recognizing the word Eurocentrism--the reverse of Afrocentrism.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#241 Feb 20, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
NO, you just proved my point boy!
Arabic lol
You were civilized by the arab. He gave you(whom he can teach) written language, boy!!
First of all, writing doesn't mean "civilized", and second, no he didn't civilize anything, you little b*tch.

You just keep showing everyone how much of a dumbass you really are. Did you know that it wasn't even Arabs that even introduced most West Africans to Islam, you filthy piece of rat scat? It was mainly Berber and Black traders, and even there, only a few people were ever Muslim, and therefore, ever literate. Literacy and Islam itself spread mainly via OTHER BLACKS. There was little to no direct Arab involvement, boy.

Learn some history.

Was it not the Arabs who came into Africa and took over Egypt, but kept getting their asses handed to them by the Nubians?

West Africans were civilized way before any Arabs came into Africa, fool. Try 2000 BC. And in any case, Northeast Africans were civilized even earlier than that, and they were all literate. So what the hell are you talking about, boy?
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
8 Languages? What could these be? Please enlighten me boy...because I see none mentioned in the link.
I don't know what all the 8 languages were, but I know they wrote in Greek, Old Nubian, Coptic, and used Arabic script.
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
You will be spanked boy...Your African History is skewed versions...."Feel Good" versions...Not truth.
Try me boy....you will see truth...but you will not like it..and of course you will just dismiss it as racist SMH Just like all Afrocentrics
No, you silly puss-stain, your silly ass has already been spanked,, thoroughly, and now you're just wailing like a pathetic broad.

You said that Africans had no written history. Well apparently they do. So now what? You gonna cry like the little effeminate fem you are, boy?

Go chew on some barbed wire, boy.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#242 Feb 20, 2013
NoArguingAllowed wrote:
One more thing: no Black person should get mad at White people when they say that some Egyptians were slaves, because they're correct! Ancient Egypt, just like many other African (including South African) nations had slaves--black slaves of lesser status. Slavery has always existed in Africa and in the Middle East, but it was never based on skin color--it was based on family lineage and status--nothing more or less. Only the European version of slavery was based on color. Even in North Africa, long before Europeans came to the region, a slave would be freed if he or she was born from the union of a slave woman and a noble man or sheikh. I've been reading facts stated by both blacks and whites on this thread, but I've also been reading both Afrocentrism and Eurocentricism on this thread from both sides.
I notice that the online spell-checker has Afrocentrism in its dictionary, but it doesn't have Eurocentrism in it's dictionary. It wants me to use Ethnocentrism versus Eurocentrism. This makes Europeans look even worst to non-Europeans, because it shows a clear attempt to control history and verbiage that makes Black people look desperate to claim history, while making Europeans look justified in their views by not recognizing the word Eurocentrism--the reverse of Afrocentrism.
Slavery was a worldwide social phenomenon which included all races.
Only in relatively recent history did it become race oriented.
AA sparks

Cincinnati, OH

#243 Feb 20, 2013
this thread is nice but should be discussed in a african forum not a forum full of AA's like myself that don't care about anything outside chicago, atlanta, new york and etc

“Maat's my principle”

Level 9

Since: Jan 12

bamako,mali

#244 Feb 21, 2013
FUCKmohammed wrote:
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Muslims raped and destroyed ancient African kingdoms. Shoot yourself in the head.
Do Name an African empire destroyed by muslims ! lil' retard !
I'm all ears Boy ! Please do tell . SMDH
YOUR Ignorance amazes me !
conscious one

UK

#245 Feb 21, 2013
Jake wrote:
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White men's doing with white men's money and support and they will never be build cause kknnneee ggggrrrroossss don't know how to build advanced modern civilizations with higher living standards that's why black Africa is still an undeveloped shithole.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =PfsIBo0CD8QXX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Kkkkknnnnnneeeeee gggggrrrroooosss version of a "Space Programs", What a joke! lol
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/5483100...
Delusions on a grand scale, get out your pigsty for a change, its happening all over Africa right now, do you only use the internet for porn. What a waste of an invention?

“Leading the Revolution”

Level 6

Since: Oct 09

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#246 Feb 21, 2013
This is an African forum, you are only interested in a small number of us, when we number more than 1 billion!! Stop thinking so small

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