Black Men: Do You Hate Black Women?

Black Men: Do You Hate Black Women?

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Since: Jan 07

Las Vegas, NV

#1 Apr 8, 2007
I just don't understand. Since the year 2000 it seems to me that black men are increasing dating out of their race. Why are you all doing this? It's scary. Whenever you are asked what is the reason for dating out of your race you seem to have the everpresent response "It's because of black women." It's always a negative response involving black women. Why is that? How do you feel about black women? Do you feel any remorse? Do you feel guilty for turning your backs on us? How did it come to this? What is going on in those heads of yours? I stress, PLEASE be honest.
watitdos little cousin

Paramount, CA

#2 Apr 8, 2007
Veronica Gaar wrote:
How do you feel about black women?

Do you feel any remorse?

Do you feel guilty for turning your backs on us?

How did it come to this?

What is going on in those heads of yours?

I stress, PLEASE be honest.
black women are my future and they are me. she was created from meto be with me we are the same. without her there can be no black me.

we have been divided by one thing or another.

i myself cannot feel guilty or remorseful because i have not been with nothing but black women but the relationships have not held because of the divison between the blackman and woman.

it is like none seems the need to accept the other unless the terms are not met on one of the other behalf... so we stagnate.

now my life is in the zone that i need a sister who thinks somewhat like i think. personality is the biggest thing for me, getting along is priority.

“Call me Mrs. Truth”

Since: Apr 07

Detroit, Michigan

#3 Apr 8, 2007
It's funny that you would say something like that. I think it has something to do with you living on the west coast.

I used to live in California and man I couldn't get a black man if I begged. And I'm considered to be a very attractive woman, 5'6", 126lbs, long hair, hazel eyes...it didn't work for me at all!!!

Out here though, midwest/east coast., black men don't really want to date white women. Most of them say they don't relate ot them culturally or that they are too wild and easy to take seriously. They say that they appreiciate the strength in african american women. And trust me, I'm being honest, I can find 50 black men by tomorrow who would say those exact words!!

“Call me Mrs. Truth”

Since: Apr 07

Detroit, Michigan

#4 Apr 8, 2007
Let me clarify one thing. I'm not saying that ALL black men in the Midwest/East Coast would rather dat a black woman over a white women. It's just that I very rarely see interracial couples and while living in California interracial couples were everywhere and I felt like I was at a huge disadvantage over there. Plus I hear black men saying that they rather have a black women.

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Since: Mar 07

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#5 Apr 8, 2007
This is not just a black problem. The American men gave their women too much power, now they can't handle their women. American women have penis envy and they are not submissive. White women are more submissive than black women so black men can't get enough of them. Asian women are more submissive than white women and white men can't get enough of them. Too much freedom for women is like crack. It’s not hard to tell they are willing to lose everything for it including their families. That is why homosexuality is on the rise.
Who should you blame for all this? The law makers.
Jay

Columbus, IN

#6 Apr 9, 2007
Veronica Gaar wrote:
I just don't understand. Since the year 2000 it seems to me that black men are increasing dating out of their race. Why are you all doing this? It's scary. Whenever you are asked what is the reason for dating out of your race you seem to have the everpresent response "It's because of black women." It's always a negative response involving black women. Why is that? How do you feel about black women? Do you feel any remorse? Do you feel guilty for turning your backs on us? How did it come to this? What is going on in those heads of yours? I stress, PLEASE be honest.
It's not just black women, its black women and their "sista girl" culture that calls us losers,fools, lazy, weak, and all kinds of other viciuos hateful names, because we don't step out into this racist society and succeed at the same rate as white men. Madness. And then you wonder why black men are voting with their feet and going to women of other races. Who wants to be bedfellows with hatred and scorn? What's tragic is how you don't see how you are being manipulated by the larger society to join in their never-ending hymn of hate against anything black and male. I see it for what it is and I am fighting back.
Ashley

Littleton, CO

#7 Apr 9, 2007
Veronica Gaar wrote:
I just don't understand. Since the year 2000 it seems to me that black men are increasing dating out of their race. Why are you all doing this? It's scary. Whenever you are asked what is the reason for dating out of your race you seem to have the everpresent response "It's because of black women." It's always a negative response involving black women. Why is that? How do you feel about black women? Do you feel any remorse? Do you feel guilty for turning your backs on us? How did it come to this? What is going on in those heads of yours? I stress, PLEASE be honest.
I'm going to play devil's advocate here Veronica. Why ask these questions in the first place? Just like there are "black" men dating outside of their race, there are "black" women who prefer to date outside of their race (hence). I don't think that they should feel any remorse for choosing to do so because they do not belong to "black" women and vice verse. Since when did we own them? I am not the "black" man's property so why should they have to be someone else's property? I already know how you feel about interracial dating so all I can say is to not worry about what others do and the choices they make because at the end of the day, it's YOU who needs to make YOU happy. A "black" man can not make you happy, only a GOOD man, regardless of race, can help in making you happy along with other things of course. I don't understand why "black" women get so upset about this nonsense. I'm going to be a realist right now....the "black" man is NOT God Veronica and so isn't the "white" man so just let it be before you make yourself go crazy girl lol.

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Ashley

Littleton, CO

#8 Apr 9, 2007
CORRECTION: the "black" man is not my property so why should I have to be someone else's property?
sweetgirl101

Memphis, TN

#9 Apr 9, 2007
veronica i stress that you please read media bans black love here in this forum
Jay

Columbus, IN

#10 Apr 9, 2007
Ashley wrote:
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I'm going to play devil's advocate here Veronica. Why ask these questions in the first place? Just like there are "black" men dating outside of their race, there are "black" women who prefer to date outside of their race (hence). I don't think that they should feel any remorse for choosing to do so because they do not belong to "black" women and vice verse. Since when did we own them? I am not the "black" man's property so why should they have to be someone else's property? I already know how you feel about interracial dating so all I can say is to not worry about what others do and the choices they make because at the end of the day, it's YOU who needs to make YOU happy. A "black" man can not make you happy, only a GOOD man, regardless of race, can help in making you happy along with other things of course. I don't understand why "black" women get so upset about this nonsense. I'm going to be a realist right now....the "black" man is NOT God Veronica and so isn't the "white" man so just let it be before you make yourself go crazy girl lol.
Very well spoken.Get free if you are not happy and find your bliss. To hell with race.

Kip

“Brian's alter ego”

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Since: Feb 07

San Francisco, CA

#11 Apr 9, 2007
Alexia wrote:
It's funny that you would say something like that. I think it has something to do with you living on the west coast.
I used to live in California and man I couldn't get a black man if I begged. And I'm considered to be a very attractive woman, 5'6", 126lbs, long hair, hazel eyes...it didn't work for me at all!!!
Out here though, midwest/east coast., black men don't really want to date white women. Most of them say they don't relate ot them culturally or that they are too wild and easy to take seriously. They say that they appreiciate the strength in african american women. And trust me, I'm being honest, I can find 50 black men by tomorrow who would say those exact words!!
YOU couldn't get a black man out here!?

Is that you in the photo?

ROTFLMAO!! Where were you, and what were you doing that no black man came your way in California? I've often seen two sides to these stories. Maybe some guys were intimidated. Were you interested? Many of the professional black women I've approached out here were only interested in me as a friend. I think some wanted guys with more money (of couse this can be said for many women anywhere), not that I'm some poor slob.

I find your conclusion interesting.

Kip

“Brian's alter ego”

Level 7

Since: Feb 07

San Francisco, CA

#12 Apr 9, 2007
Veronica Gaar wrote:
I just don't understand. Since the year 2000 it seems to me that black men are increasing dating out of their race. Why are you all doing this? It's scary. Whenever you are asked what is the reason for dating out of your race you seem to have the everpresent response "It's because of black women." It's always a negative response involving black women. Why is that? How do you feel about black women? Do you feel any remorse? Do you feel guilty for turning your backs on us? How did it come to this? What is going on in those heads of yours? I stress, PLEASE be honest.
Listen heah woman!

When i said I wanted to come home to a well cooked meal, a clean house, clean laundry, sleeping kids, newspaper and my cocktail mixed right I meant that. What did you do? You became emancipated. Now you need me. Give up what they told you was freedom and do what I asked you to do. Furthermore, you don't need to know where i am or who I'm with. That's MY business. I am the man. God created me first, and you second.

I love black women, but quit nagging me about white women. You don't need to bother yourself with that. Just do what you NEED to do if you want things to stop being scary.

P.S. I'm sorry, but I really couldn't resist responding like that. Veronica, you make this too fun.

AquaCityBoy

Las Vegas, NV

#13 Apr 9, 2007
ManOfignorance wrote:
This is not just a black problem. The American men gave their women too much power, now they can't handle their women. American women have penis envy and they are not submissive. White women are more submissive than black women so black men can't get enough of them. Asian women are more submissive than white women and white men can't get enough of them. Too much freedom for women is like crack. It’s not hard to tell they are willing to lose everything for it including their families. That is why homosexuality is on the rise.
Who should you blame for all this? The law makers.
Wow, how appropriate is it that you call yourself "man of ignorance"?532

“Idealism Has Its Place...”

Since: Mar 07

Columbus, Oh

#14 Apr 9, 2007
ManOfignorance wrote:
This is not just a black problem. The American men gave their women too much power, now they can't handle their women. American women have penis envy and they are not submissive. White women are more submissive than black women so black men can't get enough of them. Asian women are more submissive than white women and white men can't get enough of them. Too much freedom for women is like crack. It’s not hard to tell they are willing to lose everything for it including their families. That is why homosexuality is on the rise.
Who should you blame for all this? The law makers.
you cant comment on anything in our country, you camel riding rag head!

Since: Jan 07

Las Vegas, NV

#17 Apr 9, 2007
Ashley wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm going to play devil's advocate here Veronica. Why ask these questions in the first place? Just like there are "black" men dating outside of their race, there are "black" women who prefer to date outside of their race (hence). I don't think that they should feel any remorse for choosing to do so because they do not belong to "black" women and vice verse. Since when did we own them? I am not the "black" man's property so why should they have to be someone else's property? I already know how you feel about interracial dating so all I can say is to not worry about what others do and the choices they make because at the end of the day, it's YOU who needs to make YOU happy. A "black" man can not make you happy, only a GOOD man, regardless of race, can help in making you happy along with other things of course. I don't understand why "black" women get so upset about this nonsense. I'm going to be a realist right now....the "black" man is NOT God Veronica and so isn't the "white" man so just let it be before you make yourself go crazy girl lol.
You make a good point. I understand where you're coming from. But, it still bothers me to see a black man with a non-black woman. I can't explain it. It just makes me so angry. I don't even have to know the people. I can see them walking down the street and become infuriated. I take it personally. It's almost like it's a personal slap in the face to me as a black woman. I feel like they are trying to insult me on purpose. I don't feel that non-black are better than black women so I don't see the reason for black men choosing to date THEM over US. They can't relate to black men. They don't understand black history or our psychology. Black women have been standing by the sides of black men all throughout history (through the good, bad and the ugly). WE were there for them, not other women. Now these women think that they can just come and take black men so that we don't have anyone. It's just not fair! Black women dating out of their race is nowhere near the rate of black men dating out of their race. It's just so embarrasing and hurtful. I understand that we don't own black men or vise versa, but I believe in morals. I believe in black pride. I feel that we should stick together, seeing as we all come from the same background, struggles, history. We share the same hopes and fears, anger and joy. We all have a connection from slavery and beyond and I respect that. I respect black love. I respect black men. So, I would be lying if I said that it didn't bother me to see black men with other women. It hurts my feelings. And what hurts even more is that they don't even care.

Since: Jan 07

Las Vegas, NV

#18 Apr 9, 2007
Kip wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU couldn't get a black man out here!?
Is that you in the photo?
ROTFLMAO!! Where were you, and what were you doing that no black man came your way in California? I've often seen two sides to these stories. Maybe some guys were intimidated. Were you interested? Many of the professional black women I've approached out here were only interested in me as a friend. I think some wanted guys with more money (of couse this can be said for many women anywhere), not that I'm some poor slob.
I find your conclusion interesting.
That looks like a picture of Bre from America's Next Top Model Cycle 5.
watitdos little cousin

Paramount, CA

#19 Apr 10, 2007
Veronica Gaar wrote:
<quoted text>

but I believe in morals. I believe in black pride. I feel that we should stick together, seeing as we all come from the same background, struggles, history. We share the same hopes and fears, anger and joy. We all have a connection from slavery and beyond and I respect that. I respect black love. I respect black men. So, I would be lying if I said that it didn't bother me to see black men with other women. It hurts my feelings. And what hurts even more is that they don't even care.
we come from the same, hopefully we can get back on the same because we been off the same since the devil brought us here in the same chains, will that remain the same or will we make a change or do the same and never gain if the brain stay the same it just ain't the same to get back to the same we have to change or be left the same...

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Jay

Columbus, IN

#20 Apr 10, 2007
Veronica Gaar wrote:
<quoted text>
You make a good point. I understand where you're coming from. But, it still bothers me to see a black man with a non-black woman. I can't explain it. It just makes me so angry. I don't even have to know the people. I can see them walking down the street and become infuriated. I take it personally. It's almost like it's a personal slap in the face to me as a black woman. I feel like they are trying to insult me on purpose. I don't feel that non-black are better than black women so I don't see the reason for black men choosing to date THEM over US. They can't relate to black men. They don't understand black history or our psychology. Black women have been standing by the sides of black men all throughout history (through the good, bad and the ugly). WE were there for them, not other women. Now these women think that they can just come and take black men so that we don't have anyone. It's just not fair! Black women dating out of their race is nowhere near the rate of black men dating out of their race. It's just so embarrasing and hurtful. I understand that we don't own black men or vise versa, but I believe in morals. I believe in black pride. I feel that we should stick together, seeing as we all come from the same background, struggles, history. We share the same hopes and fears, anger and joy. We all have a connection from slavery and beyond and I respect that. I respect black love. I respect black men. So, I would be lying if I said that it didn't bother me to see black men with other women. It hurts my feelings. And what hurts even more is that they don't even care.
Let's get something straight. Black men are not like exotic automobiles that only black women have the owners manual to or that only black women know how to drive. I have a big problem with the message you are communicating because it makes us sound like were very expensive property. The disturbing thing is that I am hearing this sentiment echoed on other threads from other black women as well. How dare you. You can't claim to know us any better than we know you, and if we as men are striving to be free and successful, then that means that we have to the right to pursue happiness however we see fit. How can I say this? I know this country's history intimately and I see that there is another group of women out there, who are trying to get free, that have had to endure the same sort of mistreatment. But really we should all be looking for happiness no matter what race or color that person is. When black women try and talk to me it is with a "familiar" tone that I hate, almost along the same lines that white men who try and talk to me. Maybe this is how they used to address servants? I don't know, but I know I don't like what I hear. You don't know us as well as you think you do, and threads like this one and others about IR relationships prove it. More of that "sistergirl" and "goodolboy" culture at work, I suspect. Drop it. Its' 2007 and we're charting our own courses now. If you are going to try and change something, try changing that ugly, unappealing, opinionated, "girlfriend" culture that black women seem to wear so proudly on their sleeves. That's the reason I see so many black men voting with their feet and going to women of other races.
Ashley

Littleton, CO

#21 Apr 10, 2007
Veronica Gaar wrote:
<quoted text>
You make a good point. I understand where you're coming from. But, it still bothers me to see a black man with a non-black woman. I can't explain it. It just makes me so angry. I don't even have to know the people. I can see them walking down the street and become infuriated. I take it personally. It's almost like it's a personal slap in the face to me as a black woman. I feel like they are trying to insult me on purpose. I don't feel that non-black are better than black women so I don't see the reason for black men choosing to date THEM over US. They can't relate to black men. They don't understand black history or our psychology. Black women have been standing by the sides of black men all throughout history (through the good, bad and the ugly). WE were there for them, not other women. Now these women think that they can just come and take black men so that we don't have anyone. It's just not fair! Black women dating out of their race is nowhere near the rate of black men dating out of their race. It's just so embarrasing and hurtful. I understand that we don't own black men or vise versa, but I believe in morals. I believe in black pride. I feel that we should stick together, seeing as we all come from the same background, struggles, history. We share the same hopes and fears, anger and joy. We all have a connection from slavery and beyond and I respect that. I respect black love. I respect black men. So, I would be lying if I said that it didn't bother me to see black men with other women. It hurts my feelings. And what hurts even more is that they don't even care.
Oh Veronica, I can't exactly say that I know how you feel because I don't. I've only dated two "black" guys in my life and one was biracial. I know how much you love "black" men and that you have A LOT, I mean A LOT of "black" pride and there's nothing wrong with that of course. Try not to let it hurt your feelings though because I'm sure that you're a beautiful woman inside and out so trust me....there are a few "black" men out here who still date within their own race, no worries sweetie. You just have to stay strong for yourself first and foremost and let other good "black" men see that in you because only a strong man will have no problems in being with a strong woman and that goes for any race. I won't tell you that you should broaden your choices because I am not, by all means, an advocate for interracial relationships/marriages, but what another woman has shouldn't even matter to you. Look at watitdos and cuteblkdude for instance lol, they are just two of MANY who respect you as a "black" woman tremendously. Don't be sad over petty stuff because down the line, there are greater things in store for you if you focus more on that instead of this.
Ashley

Littleton, CO

#22 Apr 10, 2007
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's get something straight. Black men are not like exotic automobiles that only black women have the owners manual to or that only black women know how to drive. I have a big problem with the message you are communicating because it makes us sound like were very expensive property. The disturbing thing is that I am hearing this sentiment echoed on other threads from other black women as well. How dare you. You can't claim to know us any better than we know you, and if we as men are striving to be free and successful, then that means that we have to the right to pursue happiness however we see fit. How can I say this? I know this country's history intimately and I see that there is another group of women out there, who are trying to get free, that have had to endure the same sort of mistreatment. But really we should all be looking for happiness no matter what race or color that person is. When black women try and talk to me it is with a "familiar" tone that I hate, almost along the same lines that white men who try and talk to me. Maybe this is how they used to address servants? I don't know, but I know I don't like what I hear. You don't know us as well as you think you do, and threads like this one and others about IR relationships prove it. More of that "sistergirl" and "goodolboy" culture at work, I suspect. Drop it. Its' 2007 and we're charting our own courses now. If you are going to try and change something, try changing that ugly, unappealing, opinionated, "girlfriend" culture that black women seem to wear so proudly on their sleeves. That's the reason I see so many black men voting with their feet and going to women of other races.
Well the bit3h is here (as you have called me in another thread) so here it is Jay....whenever "black" women start changing the "girlfriend" attitudes, maybe you can focus on how to NOT be the typical "black" boy (yes I've said it) and stop with YOUR attitude problem thinking that "white" men all across the world are trying to hold you down. What are they holding you back from Jay? From purchasing those new gold rims/spinners to place onto your nonexistent pimped out ride? I'm going to be a total realist right now and if you want to go into bit3h mode, then bring it....first of all, you and you alone are NOT expensive and it shows here on topix. You talk cheap whenever you can stoop as low as to call another woman, no matter the race, a bit3h when she haven't even disrespected you first. Second of all, Veronica never said that she owned you or any other "black" man, she just stated that she felt hurt because as a whole "black" women are there for "black" men, but it seems it is not being returned. Boy, you are a slave and you don't even realize it. You grope and cry all over topix as if you're the victimized "black" man. You were never a slave so get over yourself Jay. Maybe if you directed all of that anger towards building a foundation for yourself instead of carrying on like a Bantu (don't know what it mean? Look it up!), then you'd be smiling instead of moping around grinding your teeth at everything around you. I know you could care less what I think of you, but you are one of the MAIN reasons why I do not date American guys, because you're angry, you're a parasite, and you seem lazy as hell (mentally), and you don't display ANY substance of a MAN if you ask me. I think that you, personally, could learn a thing or two from one of those "white" men that you have such a gripe about. Now here's the shackles because I don't need them, YOU do.

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