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#1333 Jan 28, 2013
All1234 wrote:
<quoted text>
Selflessness. Now that's an interesting idea... I think you're on to something.
So, as a result of bad experiences (whether your own or someone you know) a bw develops a fear of being hurt. And with that fear you no longer open yourself to vulnerability. And once you're afraid to be vulnerable, how can a person be selfless?
This might seem like a no brainer to most men, but me being a bw, I think about some of the single bw I know who can be the most selfless, loving, caring people I know. But I do notice that they can hesitate to show this side in relationships in fear of being taken advantage of. And how can you have love when you're afraid to love??
So what comes first the chicken or the egg? Is it the women who need to just change their minds and step out on faith that this man won't be the one to hurt them? or should the men begin to realize the effect that they themself or another brotha caused in a sista, who then carries that pain to the next relationship. What if bm began to treat every sista with love whether they were with that person romantically or not-- which would have positive effects on the next black couple and our community as a whole?
I do think if aaw were more cautious with who we get involved with and allow in their life in the first place, we would then be free to love as hard as we can-- making us selfless, which causes a man to love her harder...
Sorry if I'm thinking too mechanically about this, but I'm really trying to pinpoint where the disconnect happens.
Idk, what are your thoughts?
(The other comments about # of fathers, setting and achieving goals, etc all make sense as well, but the aspect of selflessness intrigued me the most)
i think aaw should love their race, culture, heritage, and community.

imo the reason why many aaw have a hard time supporting, bonding with bm, and being 'selfless' with their own men, is due to their general lack of love for selves.

i really don't think the aaw's behavior has much to do with their experiences with bm.

many aaw will be more naturally selfless with a wm, even though wm generally have no serious interest in bw, and in fact represent a history of ridiculous hate and violence against everything bw represent.

but despite that we see aaw validating themselves through images of irr with wm, which we now see in every media outlet there is. i think this recent phenomena of aaw openly and aggressively promoting wm (and even white supremacy in some cases) has exposed a mindset that was previously suspected to have existed.

women are only selfless with men who they naturally attracted to. this would be 'his woman', and the aam has never had his own woman.

“I am an awesome person”

Level 7

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#1336 Jan 29, 2013
Capree wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't mean me personally because I have never wanted to spend my life with a black man but many other black women were betrayed! They are not seeking revenge just better lives with other men so be happy for these black women. As my husband, you should really envious him because I would risk my live and soul to save him but for you, I wouldn't throw even a slice of bread!
Actually I don't give a darn about your slave mentality and kissing azz of WM, but you are not going to come on here and tear down BM, just because no BM would want your dirty trashy butt. If you don't like BM(which means you hate yourself) then fine, but you might want to take your garbage comments elsewhere. This is an African American Forum and as Black people we need to keep it positive on here. Go to an Interracial thread and spiel your hatred of BM and your hatred of yourself.
Proud Virgin

Jacksonville, FL

#1337 Jan 29, 2013
All1234 wrote:
<quoted text>
AAM were doing a GREAT job fighting for their families and communities during the Civil Rights Era and long before. And AAW did a great job of supporting, encouraging, and loving their men through those same periods.
OOW children, high STD rates, and an overall subculture that promotes sexual promiscuity and looking out for self rather than our community. How did we get here?? And better yet, what can we do to change it?
I suggested two things that I feel would help as a BW:
1) Stop Preaching the idea that women can raise men-- in other words women don't need a man so that Mothers and daughters will re-learn the importance and value of Men
2) Begin to recognize the importance of doing everything that you can to keep that man there and keep him happy in order to keep our families healthy and together. We as women can not force a man to do anything, but this is something that is within our powers to help keep our families intact
What do you as BM suggest that we BW can do?
What do you as BM suggest that BM can?
Wow, you're stunning :)

Level 3

Since: Jan 13

Minneapolis, MN

#1338 Jan 29, 2013
Proud Virgin wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, you're stunning :)
Thanks, my husband says so too :)

Level 3

Since: Jan 13

Minneapolis, MN

#1339 Jan 29, 2013
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
<quoted text>
i think aaw should love their race, culture, heritage, and community.
imo the reason why many aaw have a hard time supporting, bonding with bm, and being 'selfless' with their own men, is due to their general lack of love for selves.
i really don't think the aaw's behavior has much to do with their experiences with bm.
many aaw will be more naturally selfless with a wm, even though wm generally have no serious interest in bw, and in fact represent a history of ridiculous hate and violence against everything bw represent.
but despite that we see aaw validating themselves through images of irr with wm, which we now see in every media outlet there is. i think this recent phenomena of aaw openly and aggressively promoting wm (and even white supremacy in some cases) has exposed a mindset that was previously suspected to have existed.
women are only selfless with men who they naturally attracted to. this would be 'his woman', and the aam has never had his own woman.
I think I'll have to disagree with this one.

The lack of love for self that a lot of bw have intensifies the emotional effects of their experiences with bm. I think they go hand in hand. It's true that if bw did not have that lack of self love,the bad experiences that they've had with men would not carry so much weight with them.

But I feel that what we are seeing today is a result of bw being told as little girls by mainstream america, others within the black community, and the media that we are at the lowest on the totem pole.

That is why bw had the reaction that we had when we started seeing bm walking away from sistas for ww. We percieved it as bm saying "yes, it's true- ww are better than you". That is where her hurt stems from.

So I think that what were seeing today is a result of that. Bw-- who have only wanted validation that she was unable get from her father, her boyfriends, her bm role models etc.-- are looking for it in wm. Why wm? because if she can steal a man from a ww, who stole a man from her-- She is in fact better than that ww. Plain and simple.

Not to over generalize and say that some people are not in ir because of love, but alot of what were seeing with irbw and irbm is them just trying to get back at the other.

The statistics don't lie. BW are overwhelmingly with bm. BM are overwhelmingly with BW. What is everyone trippin about?? 90% of BM are married to BW!!!

As much as the media hates to see it, Black people are with Black people--and it's a beautiful thing!!!
Proud Virgin

Jacksonville, FL

#1340 Jan 29, 2013
All1234 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks, my husband says so too :)
You're welcome, and your husband is a lucky man. I hope the two of you last forever :)

Level 3

Since: Jan 13

Minneapolis, MN

#1341 Jan 29, 2013
Proud Virgin wrote:
<quoted text>
You're welcome, and your husband is a lucky man. I hope the two of you last forever :)
Thanks again, we'll be celebrating our 11th year of marriage in the Spring and still going strong! Yah for Black Love!!:)
Proud Virgin

Jacksonville, FL

#1342 Jan 29, 2013
All1234 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks again, we'll be celebrating our 11th year of marriage in the Spring and still going strong! Yah for Black Love!!:)
Congradulations to you and your husband, and black love is beautiful.

Level 8

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#1343 Jan 30, 2013
All1234 wrote:
<quoted text>
I think I'll have to disagree with this one.
The lack of love for self that a lot of bw have intensifies the emotional effects of their experiences with bm. I think they go hand in hand. It's true that if bw did not have that lack of self love,the bad experiences that they've had with men would not carry so much weight with them.
But I feel that what we are seeing today is a result of bw being told as little girls by mainstream america, others within the black community, and the media that we are at the lowest on the totem pole.
That is why bw had the reaction that we had when we started seeing bm walking away from sistas for ww. We percieved it as bm saying "yes, it's true- ww are better than you". That is where her hurt stems from.
So I think that what were seeing today is a result of that. Bw-- who have only wanted validation that she was unable get from her father, her boyfriends, her bm role models etc.-- are looking for it in wm. Why wm? because if she can steal a man from a ww, who stole a man from her-- She is in fact better than that ww. Plain and simple.
Not to over generalize and say that some people are not in ir because of love, but alot of what were seeing with irbw and irbm is them just trying to get back at the other.
The statistics don't lie. BW are overwhelmingly with bm. BM are overwhelmingly with BW. What is everyone trippin about?? 90% of BM are married to BW!!!
As much as the media hates to see it, Black people are with Black people--and it's a beautiful thing!!!
i don't think the vast majority of irbw are actually with wm. they just worship them in a very public way.

the problems between aam and aaw go back to slavery and continued through jim crow. this is when the spiritual connection between aam and aaw was severed.

but we didn't see any real open antagonism between aam and aaw til the end of the civil rights movement. it was only after CRM that some aaw writers and talking heads started to publically go in on aam.

public criticism of bm by aaw during this time was often in support of the culture of single black female headed households. with the 'i can do bad all by myself' mantra coming from black feminist.

and this was the beginning of the aa 'gender war' that carried though to and morphed into the irr campaign of today. you have the same anti-bm rhetoric just with a pro-wm spin.

i really don't think this has anything to do with aaw being treated badly by aam, or not being loved and recognized for their beauty, by bm.

a fair review of aa popular subculture, post-1990, shows a great deal of love being expressed towards bw by aam.

imo, the jim crow/civil rights era, just suppressed the underlining spiritual distance between aam aaw. really, how could aaw publically display contempt for bm when their men were fighting and dying for their families, everyday?

once we transitioned into the feminist era, and all the government polices that went into it - no fault divorce, generous child support payments, and expanded welfare support (allowing women to marry the state). all pretense were discarded, and the dysfunction between aaw and aam surfaced in a big way.

*in fact this forum would be just one example of the dysfunction.

ir marriage for aam is rapidly increasing. new ir marriages for aam in 2008 hit a whopping 22%, and it increased again in 2010 to 24%.

the mass media and irbw are pushing irr like crazy. and most people aren't sophisticated enough to understand the awesome power of media.

keep in mind, the government skillfully socially engineered the destruction of the aa family. you can be sure, unless something unexpected happens, you're gonna see the complete disintegration of bm/bw relations, and the aa community due to this relentless ir campaign. and it's gonna happen fast.
Alfie

UK

#1344 Jan 31, 2013
TO : DIsaster looms

U r wrong .the black woman is the blk mans woman despite the best efforts of persons.

,90% of all bw married to bm
,90% of bw date bm
,95% of bw prefer bm as husband
, Wm married as default
,only 168000 wm bw marraiges ,that is
Small when u consider there r 22 mill bw
N 100 mill wm (122 mill together )
,many quality bw hve turned down offers
Waiting on a blk prince
,hve been n r loyal to us
,support our families ,churches n communities

Bw belong to us n always hve ,they r just
Unhappy n want tings to b better.if not
That 90% figure wud b 20%
.u take the car to, the mechanic to get it fixed ,coz u like it n want to keep it ..if u didn't
U wud thro it away.

There hve been many, things to break up
The blk family such as policies n nowadays
U hve media,hollywood ,feminists nazis, using
All types of weapons yet that 90% plus
Remain strong

Level 8

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#1345 Jan 31, 2013
Alfie wrote:
TO : DIsaster looms
U r wrong .the black woman is the blk mans woman despite the best efforts of persons.
,90% of all bw married to bm
,90% of bw date bm
,95% of bw prefer bm as husband
, Wm married as default
,only 168000 wm bw marraiges ,that is
Small when u consider there r 22 mill bw
N 100 mill wm (122 mill together )
,many quality bw hve turned down offers
Waiting on a blk prince
,hve been n r loyal to us
,support our families ,churches n communities
Bw belong to us n always hve ,they r just
Unhappy n want tings to b better.if not
That 90% figure wud b 20%
.u take the car to, the mechanic to get it fixed ,coz u like it n want to keep it ..if u didn't
U wud thro it away.
There hve been many, things to break up
The blk family such as policies n nowadays
U hve media,hollywood ,feminists nazis, using
All types of weapons yet that 90% plus
Remain strong
most aa adults aren't married to anyone.

in 2008 ir marriage for aam jumped to 22% for new marriages, from 17% in 2006. in 2010 it jumped again to 24%.

don't just look at what you see, today. consider the trend.

it should be obvious to everyone by now that the government is attempting to engineer to disintegration of bm/bw relations.
i really don't think you can interpret this media saturation of irr that's focused on the aa community, in any other way.

we already know social engineering works. we have the aa family as one of the best case studies proving its effectiveness. to be sure when the media is done creating a big enouch wedge between bm/bw the aa community will be in the history books. just like the black communities of mexico, argentina and portugal. all of which had black populations over 10% but were aggressively breed and disappeared in less than 100 years.

whether you realize it or not, this is your future.

Level 3

Since: Jan 13

Minneapolis, MN

#1346 Jan 31, 2013
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
<quoted text>
i don't think the vast majority of irbw are actually with wm. they just worship them in a very public way.
the problems between aam and aaw go back to slavery and continued through jim crow. this is when the spiritual connection between aam and aaw was severed.
but we didn't see any real open antagonism between aam and aaw til the end of the civil rights movement. it was only after CRM that some aaw writers and talking heads started to publically go in on aam.
public criticism of bm by aaw during this time was often in support of the culture of single black female headed households. with the 'i can do bad all by myself' mantra coming from black feminist.
and this was the beginning of the aa 'gender war' that carried though to and morphed into the irr campaign of today. you have the same anti-bm rhetoric just with a pro-wm spin.
i really don't think this has anything to do with aaw being treated badly by aam, or not being loved and recognized for their beauty, by bm.
a fair review of aa popular subculture, post-1990, shows a great deal of love being expressed towards bw by aam.
imo, the jim crow/civil rights era, just suppressed the underlining spiritual distance between aam aaw. really, how could aaw publically display contempt for bm when their men were fighting and dying for their families, everyday?
once we transitioned into the feminist era, and all the government polices that went into it - no fault divorce, generous child support payments, and expanded welfare support (allowing women to marry the state). all pretense were discarded, and the dysfunction between aaw and aam surfaced in a big way.
*in fact this forum would be just one example of the dysfunction.
ir marriage for aam is rapidly increasing. new ir marriages for aam in 2008 hit a whopping 22%, and it increased again in 2010 to 24%.
the mass media and irbw are pushing irr like crazy. and most people aren't sophisticated enough to understand the awesome power of media.
keep in mind, the government skillfully socially engineered the destruction of the aa family. you can be sure, unless something unexpected happens, you're gonna see the complete disintegration of bm/bw relations, and the aa community due to this relentless ir campaign. and it's gonna happen fast.
Men really have to take what a scorned woman or a woman with a chip on her shoulder (in this case irbw) have to say with a grain of salt (or probably a bucket)
I do see what your saying as far as what the well-oiled propaganda machine and social engineering have done to the black community by way of the destruction of the black family. It has managed to lodge a wedge in between us bm and bw and we've both been weaker for it ever since.
And although it does seem like irr is the way of the future and the only salvation for bm and bw, you do have to also look at the backlash against it. I feel like the Interracial Agenda is very polarizing; you're either for it or against it.
These same impressionable, can't think for themselves so they'll do whatever their favorite celebrity is doing, who will tout irr from the mountain top because they were told to-- are not much different than the ones who bought into the divisive gender-war post the civil rights movement. Every generation has theirs...

Level 3

Since: Jan 13

Minneapolis, MN

#1347 Jan 31, 2013
I don't want to overgeneralize, but from my personal experience bm who usually date out are not the type of Man that a woman would want to be with anyway. Just because they may dress nice or have a six figure income-- isn't what qualifies them as a good bm or a good bw. What are you about? Who are you for? Are you looking to stand as a pillar for your community and contribute to the future of your community and the younger ones coming after you (not just your own but, OUR young ones as a community)? Or are you the kind of man or woman who is just looking out for your self? Is only about what you want for yourself at any given moment? Who would want that man anyway? Isn't this the kind of man us bw were complaining about?? So now that they've run off, shouldn't we be happy?

And same goes for the irbw. Isn't that the same gold-digging, refuse to esteem you as a real man, doesn't want to do anything but spend some man's money- that bm always complained about??

As far as I'm concerned, they are doing blackpeople a public service by dating out and putting that burden in someone else's community.

Level 3

Since: Jan 13

Minneapolis, MN

#1348 Jan 31, 2013
2 of my Husband's step brothers as well as one of his cousins are married to WW. All 3 of them have very tumultuous relationships. Someone's always cheating on someone, one of them are constantly in and out of prison, and another one of them continues to have children popping up from other women. Sorry to say it, but these men are surely not the cream of our crop. And despite how it looks from the outside (how well they dress or what kind of car they drive) they really have nothing to offer our community anyway. And same goes for the irbw I know.

But we are losing sight of the fact that aap have made major strides as a whole over the last decade. Aaw enroll in college more than any other woman (white, asian, hispani, etc). AAM enroll in college more than any other man other than asians (yes, are men are enrolling in college more than white men and hispanic men) For every 1 aam in college there is 1.37 aaw in college. AAW are employed more than any other woman (white, asian, hispanic, etc (although I don't necessarliy see this as a good thing, it does debunk the stereotype that we are lazy, welfare recieving bums) AAM are more likely to make more than $100,000/ yr than aaw, but these men are marrying aaw 90% of the time. My point is, there are great, hardworking, intelligent, responsible, and educated black men and lots of them and same for black women.

And best of all we are together for the most part. So why aren't we talking about these facts instead of the supposed Black Love crisis?? WM marrying women of other ethnicities make up the largest chunk of ir marriages at 30.1%, BM only make up 8%. That's why ww are desperately running around chasing men of all colors! That's why they are aggressively throwing themselves at you! But why are we talking about the relationship crisis in our community? It looks like the white community has more of an issue than ours... but I digress.

Level 3

Since: Jan 13

Minneapolis, MN

#1349 Jan 31, 2013
The small handful of aap who aren't about much and don't have much to offer are the ones dating out. And I'm beginning to think that's a good thing because this small handful of aap are moving themselves out of the way in search for something easy and convenient. But, it's unfortunate that this small handful of irbw and irbm happen to be the most loud-mouthed of us all and love to shout their ignorance from the mountain tops with their blow horn, while the large majority of us say nothing.

(((Sorry my response was soooo long)))

Level 3

Since: Jan 13

Minneapolis, MN

#1350 Jan 31, 2013
Men really have to take what a scorned woman or a woman with a chip on her shoulder (in this case irbw) have to say with a grain of salt (or probably a bucket)

I do see what your saying as far as what the well-oiled propaganda machine and social engineering have done to the black community by way of the destruction of the black family. It has managed to lodge a wedge in between us bm and bw and we've both been weaker for it ever since.

And although it does seem like irr is the way of the future and the only salvation for bm and bw, you do have to also look at the backlash against it. I feel like the Interracial Agenda is very polarizing; you're either for it or against it.

These same impressionable, can't think for themselves so they'll do whatever their favorite celebrity is doing, who will tout irr from the mountain top because they were told to-- are not much different than the ones who bought into the divisive gender-war post the civil rights movement. Every generation has theirs...
alfie

Welwyn Garden City, UK

#1351 Jan 31, 2013
i have looked at the trend n come to the conclusions.dont just look at percentages also look at real world numbers.

bw wm marraige in 1980 was 45000 then in 2010 it was 168000 a jump of 373%.this is a big increase right -the problem is the first number was small to begin with hence the last number is small relatively speaking.
e.g. if u have five dollars then u get a five hundred percent rise then u will have 30 dollars.as u can c thirty dollars is still not alot even tho the percentage is huge-real world number is small.

in order to wipe out a race u wud need monster size increases in irr .on the present course it would take centuries.
bwwm r at 168k but the aa population is at 42 million.remember bw -who gives to blk persons -only marries out at less than 8%.in addition well over 90% of her births r for blk men.in oder for there to b distinction she wud have to raise her marry out rate from 8 to 40/50% and her her multiracial births to about 40%.[that aint happening].
and its more so with bw since they marry out the least hence have a low multirace birth rate.
bear in mind the usa population is 340 mill but
there r only 9 million multiracial persons .
its a small number.
bw population is 22 million yet less than 200000
weddings to non blk men[even if u allow for thousands of ir dating and sex ] the figure is small.
ppl stay in race for marraige n breeding purpose.

check the numbers

Level 8

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#1352 Jan 31, 2013
All1234 wrote:
2 of my Husband's step brothers as well as one of his cousins are married to WW. All 3 of them have very tumultuous relationships. Someone's always cheating on someone, one of them are constantly in and out of prison, and another one of them continues to have children popping up from other women. Sorry to say it, but these men are surely not the cream of our crop. And despite how it looks from the outside (how well they dress or what kind of car they drive) they really have nothing to offer our community anyway. And same goes for the irbw I know.
But we are losing sight of the fact that aap have made major strides as a whole over the last decade. Aaw enroll in college more than any other woman (white, asian, hispani, etc). AAM enroll in college more than any other man other than asians (yes, are men are enrolling in college more than white men and hispanic men) For every 1 aam in college there is 1.37 aaw in college. AAW are employed more than any other woman (white, asian, hispanic, etc (although I don't necessarliy see this as a good thing, it does debunk the stereotype that we are lazy, welfare recieving bums) AAM are more likely to make more than $100,000/ yr than aaw, but these men are marrying aaw 90% of the time. My point is, there are great, hardworking, intelligent, responsible, and educated black men and lots of them and same for black women.
And best of all we are together for the most part. So why aren't we talking about these facts instead of the supposed Black Love crisis?? WM marrying women of other ethnicities make up the largest chunk of ir marriages at 30.1%, BM only make up 8%. That's why ww are desperately running around chasing men of all colors! That's why they are aggressively throwing themselves at you! But why are we talking about the relationship crisis in our community? It looks like the white community has more of an issue than ours... but I digress.
i'm not sure where you're getting your numbers from. but its my understanding that between the recession and the mortgage scams and housing bubble, the aa community has taken a huge step backwards in terms of loss of wealth.

bm and bw are together today because we're socialized to come together. but a community can be re-programmed in many different ways. and being saturated with ir images from childhood into your adult years, while hardly ever seeing black couples in loving healthy relationships will re-program a generation.

there aren't any maybe's bout it. this will happen.

you should also pay attention to the fact that this ir campaign is targeted exclusively at the aa community. aam/aaw relations has always been strained. i don't think it would really take much to push it over the edge.

Level 8

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#1353 Jan 31, 2013
alfie wrote:
i have looked at the trend n come to the conclusions.dont just look at percentages also look at real world numbers.
bw wm marraige in 1980 was 45000 then in 2010 it was 168000 a jump of 373%.this is a big increase right -the problem is the first number was small to begin with hence the last number is small relatively speaking.
e.g. if u have five dollars then u get a five hundred percent rise then u will have 30 dollars.as u can c thirty dollars is still not alot even tho the percentage is huge-real world number is small.
in order to wipe out a race u wud need monster size increases in irr .on the present course it would take centuries.
bwwm r at 168k but the aa population is at 42 million.remember bw -who gives to blk persons -only marries out at less than 8%.in addition well over 90% of her births r for blk men.in oder for there to b distinction she wud have to raise her marry out rate from 8 to 40/50% and her her multiracial births to about 40%.[that aint happening].
and its more so with bw since they marry out the least hence have a low multirace birth rate.
bear in mind the usa population is 340 mill but
there r only 9 million multiracial persons .
its a small number.
bw population is 22 million yet less than 200000
weddings to non blk men[even if u allow for thousands of ir dating and sex ] the figure is small.
ppl stay in race for marraige n breeding purpose.
check the numbers
aaw have had a negative replacement birthrate since bout 2006. if not for immigration you'd actually see the aa community shrinking.

aa are a dying community, due to high incarcerations rates, high infertility rates among bw 30yo and above, growing ir marriage rates among aam, and high abortion rates.

there's a lot going on with the aa community that many people don't even understand. aaw aren't only the most single women in the country. they also the most childless.

Level 3

Since: Jan 13

Minneapolis, MN

#1354 Jan 31, 2013
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
<quoted text>
i'm not sure where you're getting your numbers from. but its my understanding that between the recession and the mortgage scams and housing bubble, the aa community has taken a huge step backwards in terms of loss of wealth.
bm and bw are together today because we're socialized to come together. but a community can be re-programmed in many different ways. and being saturated with ir images from childhood into your adult years, while hardly ever seeing black couples in loving healthy relationships will re-program a generation.
there aren't any maybe's bout it. this will happen.
you should also pay attention to the fact that this ir campaign is targeted exclusively at the aa community. aam/aaw relations has always been strained. i don't think it would really take much to push it over the edge.
I am only stating that aam and aaw are getting educated, we are standing up as a community and doing what they tell us we need to do to succeed despite whatever odds that were against us.

But, you're right. Even still, our unemployment rates are almost double what it is for other Americans. Why is that? And even though aaw are more educated than other women in america- we are paid the lowest out of all of them (white, asian, and Hispanic). Why is that? Black men are getting educated, and if 100% of BM who enroll in college were to graduate from college, there would be more educated black men than educated white men. This is based on the numbers provided by the Dept of Education. But yet,(other than the small handful of aam holding high paying positions, athletes, and celebrities) our Black Men still can't find jobs! So why isn't our economic situation matching up with our achievements? There's something else at work here. And this is what we really need to be looking at, while they got us focused on a gender war rather than fighting against the current day inequalities the powers that be are imposing on our community

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