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Is this why they're getting rid of Affirmative Action???

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Shawnee

Paterson, NJ

#1 Apr 24, 2014
http://naturallymoi.com/wp-content/uploads/20...

Black females attending college at higher rates than everyone and black males attending college at higher rates than white and hispanic males?
Shawnee

Paterson, NJ

#2 Apr 24, 2014
They can't have that. You see how these devils play. And notice Native Americans are not even on the chart.

“Sleep is My Sanctuary”

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#3 Apr 24, 2014
It could be one of the many factors.

I still think the main factor is to appease white conservative males. Call me crazy.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

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#4 Apr 24, 2014
I don't support Affirmative action. It was necessary when it was passed but not now.
Great Point

Kansas City, MO

#5 Apr 24, 2014
Michigan? It might as well have been Oxford Mississippi

March 30, 1972

Nixon: A majority of people in Colorado voted for abortion, I think a majority of people in Michigan are for abortion, I think in both cases, well, certainly in Michigan they will vote for it because they think that what's going to be aborted generally are the little black b------s.

Unidentified Staff: Sure.

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April 3, 1972

Nixon:... as I told you and we talked about it earlier, that a hell of a lot of people want to control all the Negro b------s.

Unidentified Staff: Yeah.

Nixon: Isn't that really true?

Unidentified Staff: Yeah

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April 3, 1972

Nixon: You know what we are talking about — population control?

Unidentified Staff: Sure

Nixon: We're talking really — and what John Rockefeller really realizes — look, the people in what we call the 'our class' control their populations. Sometimes they'll have a family of six, or seven, or eight, or nine, but it's exception.

Unidentified Staff: Sure.

Nixon: People who don't control their families are people in — the people who shouldn't have kids. Now that's ...

Unidentified Staff: The black population in the city of San Francisco has gone from 3000 — right after World War II — to where they represent 30 percent of the population of San Francisco.

Nixon: What?

Unidentified Staff: Yes sir.
Shawnee wrote:
http://naturallymoi.com/wp-con tent/uploads/2013/06/Graph-Bla ck-Women-College.png
Black females attending college at higher rates than everyone and black males attending college at higher rates than white and hispanic males?
Great Point

Kansas City, MO

#6 Apr 24, 2014
Shawnee wrote:
http://naturallymoi.com/wp-con tent/uploads/2013/06/Graph-Bla ck-Women-College.png
Black females attending college at higher rates than everyone and black males attending college at higher rates than white and hispanic males?
you make an excellent point
Race is trivial

Mountain View, CA

#7 Apr 24, 2014
emperorjohn wrote:
I don't support Affirmative action. It was necessary when it was passed but not now.
Affirmative action just gave us an equal chance but not an advantage.
Shawnee

Paterson, NJ

#8 Apr 24, 2014
emperorjohn wrote:
I don't support Affirmative action. It was necessary when it was passed but not now.
Why not now, racism ended? explain
Shawnee

Paterson, NJ

#9 Apr 24, 2014
Great Point wrote:
Michigan? It might as well have been Oxford Mississippi
March 30, 1972
Nixon: A majority of people in Colorado voted for abortion, I think a majority of people in Michigan are for abortion, I think in both cases, well, certainly in Michigan they will vote for it because they think that what's going to be aborted generally are the little black b------s.
Unidentified Staff: Sure.
----------
April 3, 1972
Nixon:... as I told you and we talked about it earlier, that a hell of a lot of people want to control all the Negro b------s.
Unidentified Staff: Yeah.
Nixon: Isn't that really true?
Unidentified Staff: Yeah
----------
April 3, 1972
Nixon: You know what we are talking about — population control?
Unidentified Staff: Sure
Nixon: We're talking really — and what John Rockefeller really realizes — look, the people in what we call the 'our class' control their populations. Sometimes they'll have a family of six, or seven, or eight, or nine, but it's exception.
Unidentified Staff: Sure.
Nixon: People who don't control their families are people in — the people who shouldn't have kids. Now that's ...
Unidentified Staff: The black population in the city of San Francisco has gone from 3000 — right after World War II — to where they represent 30 percent of the population of San Francisco.
Nixon: What?
Unidentified Staff: Yes sir.
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very interesting

“Behave Yourself”

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Since: Jul 07

Fort Worth, Texas

#10 Apr 24, 2014
Unfortunately, affirmative action is not fully understood by those who pass judgement. It was meant to be a set of procedures designed to eliminate unlawful discrimination between applicants, remedy the results of such prior discrimination, and prevent such discrimination in the future. Applicants may be seeking admission to an educational program or looking for professional employment. I don't believe it was designed as a means to establish quotas.

If an entity receives public funds and demonstrates obvious discriminatory hiring or acceptance practices, then the removal of government funds from that entity is justified. I sure hope that we don't lose site of that when it comes to taking civil action in the legal system.

“Sleep is My Sanctuary”

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#11 Apr 24, 2014
Edthirty wrote:
Unfortunately, affirmative action is not fully understood by those who pass judgement. It was meant to be a set of procedures designed to eliminate unlawful discrimination between applicants, remedy the results of such prior discrimination, and prevent such discrimination in the future. Applicants may be seeking admission to an educational program or looking for professional employment. I don't believe it was designed as a means to establish quotas.
If an entity receives public funds and demonstrates obvious discriminatory hiring or acceptance practices, then the removal of government funds from that entity is justified. I sure hope that we don't lose site of that when it comes to taking civil action in the legal system.
Exactly. Now the Supreme Court is basically saying it's okay to go back to the old way just because some of their constituents feel "discriminated" against. It's a huge leap backward. We'll see the aftermath within the next few months.
Shawnee

Paterson, NJ

#12 Apr 24, 2014
Edthirty wrote:
Unfortunately, affirmative action is not fully understood by those who pass judgement. It was meant to be a set of procedures designed to eliminate unlawful discrimination between applicants, remedy the results of such prior discrimination, and prevent such discrimination in the future. Applicants may be seeking admission to an educational program or looking for professional employment. I don't believe it was designed as a means to establish quotas.
If an entity receives public funds and demonstrates obvious discriminatory hiring or acceptance practices, then the removal of government funds from that entity is justified. I sure hope that we don't lose site of that when it comes to taking civil action in the legal system.
they dont care what it was designed to do. think about it. theyre the reason affirmative action was needed in the first place.
Tata Tara

UK

#13 Apr 24, 2014
Shawnee wrote:
http://naturallymoi.com/wp-con tent/uploads/2013/06/Graph-Bla ck-Women-College.png
Black females attending college at higher rates than everyone and black males attending college at higher rates than white and hispanic males?
Aside from the pretentiousness of a website calling itself "naturallymoi" {SMDH}, you need to read the figures, they demonstrate exactly what AA is about, getting people who shouldn't be in college, to college...have a look at the figures of the number of useful degrees successfully attained by Blacks...very very low...

Affirmative action invented course like "African Studies" that White folks are precluded from, and what use are the qualifications?

Also, the graphic used is out of all proportion to the rates of attendance...

You could get all Black people into college and getting degrees in 'African Studies' and 'The Great Diaspora', but what possible use would they be in a world where technology and science are the foundations?

Any discrimination -positive or negative- is wrong...
Shawnee

Paterson, NJ

#16 Apr 24, 2014
Tata Tara wrote:
<quoted text>
Aside from the pretentiousness of a website calling itself "naturallymoi" {SMDH}, you need to read the figures, they demonstrate exactly what AA is about, getting people who shouldn't be in college, to college...have a look at the figures of the number of useful degrees successfully attained by Blacks...very very low...
Affirmative action invented course like "African Studies" that White folks are precluded from, and what use are the qualifications?
Also, the graphic used is out of all proportion to the rates of attendance...
You could get all Black people into college and getting degrees in 'African Studies' and 'The Great Diaspora', but what possible use would they be in a world where technology and science are the foundations?
Any discrimination -positive or negative- is wrong...
heard it all before, there is always one like you. the numbers are from the US census bureau. do the math numbers dont lie.

“Israel uses Jim Crow Terrorism”

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#17 Apr 24, 2014
The problem is this: We have more educated blacks than ever before, but no more wealth, ownership, etc. Degrees prepare you to work for SOMEONE ELSE...

“Sombrero Galaxy”

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#18 Apr 24, 2014
Shawnee wrote:
<quoted text>Why not now, racism ended? explain
Racism is no way near as it was before. Racism is not preventing blacks from succeeding.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

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#19 Apr 24, 2014
Jubilant Sleep wrote:
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Exactly. Now the Supreme Court is basically saying it's okay to go back to the old way just because some of their constituents feel "discriminated" against. It's a huge leap backward. We'll see the aftermath within the next few months.
No what the court is saying is that it is no longer needed and that it discriminates against people.

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#20 Apr 25, 2014
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
No what the court is saying is that it is no longer needed and that it discriminates against people.
The point is to give people who have been and still are discriminated against by the majority a chance. I'm not saying that without Affirmative Action no blacks will ever be hired because all corporations are racist. What I AM saying is that without some type of pressure for those who ARE racist to hire people who aren't white, what reason would they have to deviate from that racist practice?

IronOak

Since: Jan 14

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#21 Apr 25, 2014
Equal treatment...

You will no longer be treated with some "awwww you poor thing" effect.
Alan Maceo

United States

#22 Apr 25, 2014
Shawnee wrote:
http://naturallymoi.com/wp-con tent/uploads/2013/06/Graph-Bla ck-Women-College.png
Black females attending college at higher rates than everyone and black males attending college at higher rates than white and hispanic males?
How is getting in based on merit going to stop that? You either sink or swim. There is no pride in accepting special concessions from the White man.

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