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Since: Aug 10

Australia

#1 Oct 2, 2010
Somoan Irish is in not position to speak nor caste the first stone.

Don't pay him any attention. I don't know about New Zealand but pacific Islanders are referred too as goly wogs in Australia. It may have to do with their semi afro hair and wide facial features(not that I agree with it because its racism). Also metropolitan wise they're in the same financial bracket as Indigenous Australians and Refugees who live in low income neighborhoods and aren't highly educated.
In New Zealand its not any better. In America the blacks mostly make up the ghetto. In the pacific the pacific islanders usually make up the ghettos. They are known to have high crime rates, low education, dependency on alcohol and no significant political standing to speak of.
http://www.justice.govt.nz/policy-and-consult ...
http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/peo ...
Quote
'Maori make up just 14% of the population but are responsible for more than 65% of offending, however police say they are confident a solution will be found.'
Article here
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_sk ...
They have a special task force to deal with the issues of the maori people in New Zealand
http://www.justice.govt.nz/publications/publi ...
http://nbr.infometrics.co.nz/new-zealand-s-un ...
The irony of the situation where they have compared Maori people to African Americans education wise.
Quote
'Overseas studies find that students from disadvantaged ethnic groups (e.g., African Americans in the United States) often have poorer academic records in secondary school (e.g., Cook and Evans 2000). Similar results have been found in New Zealand, where poorer average educational achievements in secondary school are often reported for Maori and Pacific Islanders. For example, the Progress at School Project studied the attainment of 5,400 students (including 1,015 Maori) throughout their secondary education (Nash and Harker 1997). Among students with the same gender, measured ability and socioeconomic levels, Maori students generally received lower School Certificate marks than European students in mathematics, science, and English exams. The poorer academic achievements of Maori and Pacific Island students have been linked to their lower participation rates in tertiary education and lower lifetime income levels (Nash 2000, Nash 2001, Maani and Kalb 2003 and Maani 2004).'
Quote from following article.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb2995/ ...
Obesity and unhealthy living.
Quote
'In New Zealand the burden of nutrition-related disease is greatest among Māori, Pacific and low-income peoples. Nutrition labels have the potential to promote healthy food choices and eating behaviours. To date, there has been a noticeable lack of research among indigenous peoples, ethnic minorities and low-income populations regarding their perceptions, use and understanding of nutrition labels.
Quote from article below
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18167165
So ultimately all of the issues plaguing the African American community is plaguing the Pacific Islanders in New Zealand and Australia. They have special police task forces to deal with their issues.

High crime rates, low income, low eduction, high obesity etc. It didn't take me long to find the articles mentioned above(there are many). Unfortunately their problems are very great. Hopefully they will put steps in place to counteract it. Who knows.

“me! chee hoo! LOL!”

Level 6

Since: Oct 09

Whangarei, New Zealand

#2 Oct 2, 2010
four_past_midnight wrote:
Somoan Irish is in not position to speak nor caste the first stone.
Don't pay him any attention. I don't know about New Zealand but pacific Islanders are referred too as goly wogs in Australia. It may have to do with their semi afro hair and wide facial features(not that I agree with it because its racism). Also metropolitan wise they're in the same financial bracket as Indigenous Australians and Refugees who live in low income neighborhoods and aren't highly educated.
In New Zealand its not any better. In America the blacks mostly make up the ghetto. In the pacific the pacific islanders usually make up the ghettos. They are known to have high crime rates, low education, dependency on alcohol and no significant political standing to speak of.
http://www.justice.govt.nz/policy-and-consult ...
http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/peo ...
Quote
'Maori make up just 14% of the population but are responsible for more than 65% of offending, however police say they are confident a solution will be found.'
Article here
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_sk ...
They have a special task force to deal with the issues of the maori people in New Zealand
http://www.justice.govt.nz/publications/publi ...
http://nbr.infometrics.co.nz/new-zealand-s-un ...
The irony of the situation where they have compared Maori people to African Americans education wise.
Quote
'Overseas studies find that students from disadvantaged ethnic groups (e.g., African Americans in the United States) often have poorer academic records in secondary school (e.g., Cook and Evans 2000). Similar results have been found in New Zealand, where poorer average educational achievements in secondary school are often reported for Maori and Pacific Islanders. For example, the Progress at School Project studied the attainment of 5,400 students (including 1,015 Maori) throughout their secondary education (Nash and Harker 1997). Among students with the same gender, measured ability and socioeconomic levels, Maori students generally received lower School Certificate marks than European students in mathematics, science, and English exams. The poorer academic achievements of Maori and Pacific Island students have been linked to their lower participation rates in tertiary education and lower lifetime income levels (Nash 2000, Nash 2001, Maani and Kalb 2003 and Maani 2004).'
Quote from following article.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb2995/ ...
Obesity and unhealthy living.
Quote
'In New Zealand the burden of nutrition-related disease is greatest among Māori, Pacific and low-income peoples. Nutrition labels have the potential to promote healthy food choices and eating behaviours. To date, there has been a noticeable lack of research among indigenous peoples, ethnic minorities and low-income populations regarding their perceptions, use and understanding of nutrition labels.
Quote from article below
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18167165
So ultimately all of the issues plaguing the African American community is plaguing the Pacific Islanders in New Zealand and Australia. They have special police task forces to deal with their issues.
High crime rates, low income, low eduction, high obesity etc. It didn't take me long to find the articles mentioned above(there are many). Unfortunately their problems are very great. Hopefully they will put steps in place to counteract it. Who knows.
lol!

come on bring it and we see who the real primitive is!

one Maoris are the are EAST POLYNESIANS not WEST which I am! there features along with the tahitains and easter islanders and cook islanders are the original Polyneisan people meaning they don't have nicca noses!
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Everyon...

looking very close to native indians in America!

“me! chee hoo! LOL!”

Level 6

Since: Oct 09

Whangarei, New Zealand

#3 Oct 2, 2010
fact number two in NZ Auckland is a polynesian city! and is embraced by all races so where you getting this rubbish from???

Fact three that gangs is NOT a Samoan problem mainly Maori Mongrel mob is the biggest maori gang and have a naze symbol as there patch! in NZ Samoans are known more for "why we go to church" fool!

As for the stats of higher crime low income and all other yeah that's true why lie every miniority is like this even Mexicans why???

as for gangs in maori culture that is just as much as part of the family different from other polynesians!



watch and educate yourself! you want me to talk about AFrica??? or America? cause you rather be a poor kiwi than a poor American??? like to debate? I'll kill you with my knowledge!
Smoking Mirrors

Warren, Australia

#4 Oct 2, 2010
four_past_midnight wrote:
Somoan Irish is in not position to speak nor caste the first stone.
Don't pay him any attention. I don't know about New Zealand but pacific Islanders are referred too as goly wogs in Australia. It may have to do with their semi afro hair and wide facial features(not that I agree with it because its racism). Also metropolitan wise they're in the same financial bracket as Indigenous Australians and Refugees who live in low income neighborhoods and aren't highly educated.
In New Zealand its not any better. In America the blacks mostly make up the ghetto. In the pacific the pacific islanders usually make up the ghettos. They are known to have high crime rates, low education, dependency on alcohol and no significant political standing to speak of.
http://www.justice.govt.nz/policy-and-consult ...
http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/peo ...
Quote
'Maori make up just 14% of the population but are responsible for more than 65% of offending, however police say they are confident a solution will be found.'
Article here
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_sk ...
They have a special task force to deal with the issues of the maori people in New Zealand
http://www.justice.govt.nz/publications/publi ...
http://nbr.infometrics.co.nz/new-zealand-s-un ...
The irony of the situation where they have compared Maori people to African Americans education wise.
Quote
'Overseas studies find that students from disadvantaged ethnic groups (e.g., African Americans in the United States) often have poorer academic records in secondary school (e.g., Cook and Evans 2000). Similar results have been found in New Zealand, where poorer average educational achievements in secondary school are often reported for Maori and Pacific Islanders. For example, the Progress at School Project studied the attainment of 5,400 students (including 1,015 Maori) throughout their secondary education (Nash and Harker 1997). Among students with the same gender, measured ability and socioeconomic levels, Maori students generally received lower School Certificate marks than European students in mathematics, science, and English exams. The poorer academic achievements of Maori and Pacific Island students have been linked to their lower participation rates in tertiary education and lower lifetime income levels (Nash 2000, Nash 2001, Maani and Kalb 2003 and Maani 2004).'
Quote from following article.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb2995/ ...
Obesity and unhealthy living.
Quote
'In New Zealand the burden of nutrition-related disease is greatest among Māori, Pacific and low-income peoples. Nutrition labels have the potential to promote healthy food choices and eating behaviours. To date, there has been a noticeable lack of research among indigenous peoples, ethnic minorities and low-income populations regarding their perceptions, use and understanding of nutrition labels.
Quote from article below
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18167165
So ultimately all of the issues plaguing the African American community is plaguing the Pacific Islanders in New Zealand and Australia. They have special police task forces to deal with their issues.
High crime rates, low income, low eduction, high obesity etc. It didn't take me long to find the articles mentioned above(there are many). Unfortunately their problems are very great. Hopefully they will put steps in place to counteract it. Who knows.
Ok now that you put up a thread specifically for PI's

You just said in your first sentence you dont know
about NZ - so what is your point?
Smoking Mirrors

Warren, Australia

#5 Oct 2, 2010
Samoan Irish wrote:
fact number two in NZ Auckland is a polynesian city! and is embraced by all races so where you getting this rubbish from???
Fact three that gangs is NOT a Samoan problem mainly Maori Mongrel mob is the biggest maori gang and have a naze symbol as there patch! in NZ Samoans are known more for "why we go to church" fool!
As for the stats of higher crime low income and all other yeah that's true why lie every miniority is like this even Mexicans why???
as for gangs in maori culture that is just as much as part of the family different from other polynesians!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =0_0lN5D64XUXX
watch and educate yourself! you want me to talk about AFrica??? or America? cause you rather be a poor kiwi than a poor American??? like to debate? I'll kill you with my knowledge!
I think hes trying to point out the similarities...

Im only iffy about his post because he doesnt
know the socioeconomic or history of how PI's came
to NZ > So why tell a story when you dont know half of it? <

Is my point...

If he's going to spit out stats then atleast be real
and be honest on why and how these stats came about....

If he cant - then its just plain ignorance......
Smoking Mirrors

Warren, Australia

#6 Oct 2, 2010
four_past_midnight wrote:
Somoan Irish is in not position to speak nor caste the first stone.
Don't pay him any attention. I don't know about New Zealand but pacific Islanders are referred too as goly wogs in Australia. It may have to do with their semi afro hair and wide facial features(not that I agree with it because its racism). Also metropolitan wise they're in the same financial bracket as Indigenous Australians and Refugees who live in low income neighborhoods and aren't highly educated.
In New Zealand its not any better. In America the blacks mostly make up the ghetto. In the pacific the pacific islanders usually make up the ghettos. They are known to have high crime rates, low education, dependency on alcohol and no significant political standing to speak of.
http://www.justice.govt.nz/policy-and-consult ...
http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/peo ...
Quote
'Maori make up just 14% of the population but are responsible for more than 65% of offending, however police say they are confident a solution will be found.'
Article here
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_sk ...
They have a special task force to deal with the issues of the maori people in New Zealand
http://www.justice.govt.nz/publications/publi ...
http://nbr.infometrics.co.nz/new-zealand-s-un ...
The irony of the situation where they have compared Maori people to African Americans education wise.
By the way your > income stats and obesity stats runs rampant
in certain eurpean countries too.......
Australia being the 7th country in the world to be obese
and America being Number 1
America in case you have forgotten is Western influenced btw :)
McDonalds, Burger King, Donuts etc etc etc.....contribute
to this obesity epidemic...
None of these foods from the pacific nations by the way.....
The stats you gave in obesity in PI's is nothing
in comparison to what I just gave you, by the way the
figure what you just gave by population (how many ppl)
........
And do you know how big european woman were back in
Elizabethan times???? Before their men traveled to oceania???
Western food btw - has more fat in it then
any PI food - without the influence of western processed
foods....
Just google MacDonalds & study the fat content it has.....
& other western foods for that matter.
Smoking Mirrors

Warren, Australia

#7 Oct 2, 2010
^^^^^^^
Igore typos
Smoking Mirrors

Warren, Australia

#8 Oct 2, 2010
& yes what I am saying is western food
contributes to obesity

So my point is > Why do westerners complain
about obesity when it is their food they
sell that is contributing to obesity? <

Can they just stop being greedy &
stop selling the food at a low price
for minorities - cos we all know
the rich ppl can just get the fat
sucked out via liposuction...

But to sell them to ppl on the sly....

Come on thats just plain greed

Second point....

Racists should stop pointing fingers
cos half the stuff they come up with
dont make any sense

The end.

“me! chee hoo! LOL!”

Level 6

Since: Oct 09

Whangarei, New Zealand

#9 Oct 2, 2010
Smoking Mirrors wrote:
<quoted text>
I think hes trying to point out the similarities...
Im only iffy about his post because he doesnt
know the socioeconomic or history of how PI's came
to NZ > So why tell a story when you dont know half of it? <
Is my point...
If he's going to spit out stats then atleast be real
and be honest on why and how these stats came about....
If he cant - then its just plain ignorance......
lol! yeah long time no here me still here...but your right!

Fact is I take no offence but....if they take offence what I say then I will show them if it's true it's true if it ain't then it ain't. When it comes to gangs it's a lifestyle or upbringing of many Maori people not for other Polynesians like Tongans which you are they are more known for Samoans for the sporting and relgious aspects.

Malo! nice hearing from you
Smoking Mirrors

Brisbane, Australia

#10 Oct 3, 2010
Samoan Irish wrote:
<quoted text>lol! yeah long time no here me still here...but your right!
Fact is I take no offence but....if they take offence what I say then I will show them if it's true it's true if it ain't then it ain't. When it comes to gangs it's a lifestyle or upbringing of many Maori people not for other Polynesians like Tongans which you are they are more known for Samoans for the sporting and relgious aspects.
Malo! nice hearing from you
Hey SI!!

Just dropping by to say hey your way!
> & there are no ghettos here in Australia lol

Enjoy your week :)

“me! chee hoo! LOL!”

Level 6

Since: Oct 09

Whangarei, New Zealand

#11 Oct 4, 2010
Smoking Mirrors wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey SI!!
Just dropping by to say hey your way!
> & there are no ghettos here in Australia lol
Enjoy your week :)
lol! enjoy the weekend, looks like they can start a thread... but can't end it!

“me! chee hoo! LOL!”

Level 6

Since: Oct 09

Whangarei, New Zealand

#12 Oct 4, 2010
Now to teach you what Samoans really stand for! in Samoa

Fa'a Samoa!

take away African hip hop and influnce from Polynesians this is what you get!

&fe ature=fvw

A man who puts God first family second and culture third! you can't beat that! can you

“me! chee hoo! LOL!”

Level 6

Since: Oct 09

Whangarei, New Zealand

#13 Oct 4, 2010
the pride of Samoa!
&fe ature=related

another Samoan making us proud! fa'a samoa! chee choo!

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Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#14 Oct 4, 2010
four_past_midnight wrote:
Somoan Irish is in not position to speak nor caste the first stone.
Don't pay him any attention. I don't know about New Zealand but pacific Islanders are referred too as goly wogs in Australia. It may have to do with their semi afro hair and wide facial features(not that I agree with it because its racism). Also metropolitan wise they're in the same financial bracket as Indigenous Australians and Refugees who live in low income neighborhoods and aren't highly educated.
In New Zealand its not any better. In America the blacks mostly make up the ghetto. In the pacific the pacific islanders usually make up the ghettos. They are known to have high crime rates, low education, dependency on alcohol and no significant political standing to speak of.
http://www.justice.govt.nz/policy-and-consult ...
http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/peo ...
Quote
'Maori make up just 14% of the population but are responsible for more than 65% of offending, however police say they are confident a solution will be found.'
Article here
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_sk ...
They have a special task force to deal with the issues of the maori people in New Zealand
http://www.justice.govt.nz/publications/publi ...
http://nbr.infometrics.co.nz/new-zealand-s-un ...
The irony of the situation where they have compared Maori people to African Americans education wise.
Quote
'Overseas studies find that students from disadvantaged ethnic groups (e.g., African Americans in the United States) often have poorer academic records in secondary school (e.g., Cook and Evans 2000). Similar results have been found in New Zealand, where poorer average educational achievements in secondary school are often reported for Maori and Pacific Islanders. For example, the Progress at School Project studied the attainment of 5,400 students (including 1,015 Maori) throughout their secondary education (Nash and Harker 1997). Among students with the same gender, measured ability and socioeconomic levels, Maori students generally received lower School Certificate marks than European students in mathematics, science, and English exams. The poorer academic achievements of Maori and Pacific Island students have been linked to their lower participation rates in tertiary education and lower lifetime income levels (Nash 2000, Nash 2001, Maani and Kalb 2003 and Maani 2004).'
Quote from following article.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb2995/ ...
Obesity and unhealthy living.
Quote
'In New Zealand the burden of nutrition-related disease is greatest among M&#257;ori, Pacific and low-income peoples. Nutrition labels have the potential to promote healthy food choices and eating behaviours. To date, there has been a noticeable lack of research among indigenous peoples, ethnic minorities and low-income populations regarding their perceptions, use and understanding of nutrition labels.
Quote from article below
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18167165
So ultimately all of the issues plaguing the African American community is plaguing the Pacific Islanders in New Zealand and Australia. They have special police task forces to deal with their issues.
High crime rates, low income, low eduction, high obesity etc. It didn't take me long to find the articles mentioned above(there are many). Unfortunately their problems are very great. Hopefully they will put steps in place to counteract it. Who knows.
So basically the whole point of this thread is to bash Maoris??

“me! chee hoo! LOL!”

Level 6

Since: Oct 09

Whangarei, New Zealand

#15 Oct 4, 2010
Garrig wrote:
<quoted text> So basically the whole point of this thread is to bash Maoris??
We'll...to be honest the maoris are not having too good of the news on t.v.

They don't really embrace the Christan faith as much as other polynesians and gang afflication is very much part of there family upbringings. The problem is Samoans not only in NZ but in America are influnced by a lot of the media and in many way portray "cool" with gang activity than with "fa'a Samoa"

If you Americans ever knew what "fa'a Samoan" means it would transform America to a state of great respect for each other due to you live for your brother not for yourself

If anyone really want to know Samoans biggest sins it would be...fighting (not drinking, we have the lowest number of men using any type of drugs) and eating!
Laurel Jane May

Brisbane, Australia

#16 Nov 14, 2010
"take away African hip hop and influnce from Polynesians this is what you get!

http://www.youtube.com/watch ...

A man who puts God first family second and culture third! you can't beat that! can you"

SI - I am really curious what you mean by African Hip Hop and Influence? I'm a total mix breed of who knows what just spent a year working with hip hop through journalism in East Africa that's why I ask. I watched the youtube clip. I fail to see how African influence would make that bad as that is what is somewhat suggested? Correct me if I am wrong. African hip hop and its culture btw is all about empowerment, youth movement, revolution and social education. Most of the music coming from the ghettos is Kenya and Uganda is pretty strong and emotional stuff using their experiences from slum-life. If you look into artists like Cannibal, Shattah, Ukoo Flani (Kenyan) and Bataka Squad, Bavabuka Foundation, Babaluku, Charcoal, Luminous (Ugandan) the list goes on you will find the music is largely religious based and calls for peace, love and change in thinking and actions to bring about the end of poverty. There is nothing in there that demands violence and if anything they attempt to break down tribalistic barriers and create a new generation of educated, strong, powerful and peaceful Africans.
I have been back in Australia for one week and I am already going crazy with the ignorance here of people like that four past midnight dude...seriously wtf WHO CALLS ANYONE A GOLLYWOG? To say that is what Aussies call PI's that, is a bit of a broad generalisation. Oh and just for the record the term Golliwog come from a childrens book with the Golliwog as the main character, it was made into a doll in the 60's...(I worked in a retro restaurant many years ago).
As for the obesity comments, seriously what happened to people in Oz? I go away for a year, I come back and it's like everyone got fat! Just wanna get these Aussies on a treadmill. I'm pretty certain obesity has a lot to do with our changing lifestyles, quick and easy foods due to hectic schedules which tend to be higher in fat and our stupid work hours which leave us less time to work out and too mentally drained to do much after work but veg out in front of the television.
But that's all just my opinion I didn't go to the effort to give you web page links and statistics. Some of us can back our thoughts up with experience not just google...But we should appreciate the fact that the dude with the views DID come out and say he's not racist...after his initial rant however, it's almost like saying some of my best friends are black....I do find that racism and discrimination seem to be easily differentiated by Aussies when they really are kinda like the same thing yeah?
Oh and I know I'm way late with this but I just found it.
www.eastafricanambling.blogspot.com

“me! chee hoo! LOL!”

Level 6

Since: Oct 09

Whangarei, New Zealand

#17 Nov 14, 2010
Laurel Jane May wrote:
"take away African hip hop and influnce from Polynesians this is what you get!
http://www.youtube.com/watch ...
A man who puts God first family second and culture third! you can't beat that! can you"
SI - I am really curious what you mean by African Hip Hop and Influence? I'm a total mix breed of who knows what just spent a year working with hip hop through journalism in East Africa that's why I ask. I watched the youtube clip. I fail to see how African influence would make that bad as that is what is somewhat suggested? Correct me if I am wrong. African hip hop and its culture btw is all about empowerment, youth movement, revolution and social education. Most of the music coming from the ghettos is Kenya and Uganda is pretty strong and emotional stuff using their experiences from slum-life. If you look into artists like Cannibal, Shattah, Ukoo Flani (Kenyan) and Bataka Squad, Bavabuka Foundation, Babaluku, Charcoal, Luminous (Ugandan) the list goes on you will find the music is largely religious based and calls for peace, love and change in thinking and actions to bring about the end of poverty. There is nothing in there that demands violence and if anything they attempt to break down tribalistic barriers and create a new generation of educated, strong, powerful and peaceful Africans.
I have been back in Australia for one week and I am already going crazy with the ignorance here of people like that four past midnight dude...seriously wtf WHO CALLS ANYONE A GOLLYWOG? To say that is what Aussies call PI's that, is a bit of a broad generalisation. Oh and just for the record the term Golliwog come from a childrens book with the Golliwog as the main character, it was made into a doll in the 60's...(I worked in a retro restaurant many years ago).
As for the obesity comments, seriously what happened to people in Oz? I go away for a year, I come back and it's like everyone got fat! Just wanna get these Aussies on a treadmill. I'm pretty certain obesity has a lot to do with our changing lifestyles, quick and easy foods due to hectic schedules which tend to be higher in fat and our stupid work hours which leave us less time to work out and too mentally drained to do much after work but veg out in front of the television.
But that's all just my opinion I didn't go to the effort to give you web page links and statistics. Some of us can back our thoughts up with experience not just google...But we should appreciate the fact that the dude with the views DID come out and say he's not racist...after his initial rant however, it's almost like saying some of my best friends are black....I do find that racism and discrimination seem to be easily differentiated by Aussies when they really are kinda like the same thing yeah?
Oh and I know I'm way late with this but I just found it.
www.eastafricanambling.blogspot.com
We'll if anyone did want to say something bad about samoans in general terms as soicety wise you can't why? due to in samoan soicety they put happiness above all things!

This is why I'm too happy to worry but being intellgent and talking in a certain way is fa'a samoa! but...the hip hop which is being shown on television is not "positive" as you may view it and it's that hip hop I'm talking about for example the killings happening in Auckland has jumped from almost nothing in 1970's to nearly five deaths a week! and they all gang related too!

When I see these bozzo's running round with stupid rags on there head I too feel like shooting them myselfs
Laurel Jane May

Glen Iris, Australia

#18 Nov 14, 2010
So racism is apparently everywhere...don't you feel your comments about a certain group of people make you as bad as anyone hating on Samoans? Just so you're aware prejudice and racial hatred don't make you a happy and/or intelligent person.
Hip Hop is a positive movement. More so in Africa than anywhere else.
As for an increase in the homicide rate in Auckland that is not caused by hip hop or African influence.

“me! chee hoo! LOL!”

Level 6

Since: Oct 09

Whangarei, New Zealand

#19 Nov 15, 2010
Laurel Jane May wrote:
So racism is apparently everywhere...don't you feel your comments about a certain group of people make you as bad as anyone hating on Samoans? Just so you're aware prejudice and racial hatred don't make you a happy and/or intelligent person.
Hip Hop is a positive movement. More so in Africa than anywhere else.
As for an increase in the homicide rate in Auckland that is not caused by hip hop or African influence.
It never mattered me! if it's true it's true fa'a Samoan way teaches you a real man take many blows not throwing them!

I hate anything which promotes anti life and when you start rapping bout killing people you draw the line from friend to foe!

“me! chee hoo! LOL!”

Level 6

Since: Oct 09

Whangarei, New Zealand

#20 Nov 15, 2010
Laurel Jane May wrote:
So racism is apparently everywhere...don't you feel your comments about a certain group of people make you as bad as anyone hating on Samoans? Just so you're aware prejudice and racial hatred don't make you a happy and/or intelligent person.
Hip Hop is a positive movement. More so in Africa than anywhere else.
As for an increase in the homicide rate in Auckland that is not caused by hip hop or African influence.
you want prove that the killing rate is not because of hip hop??? because I can tell you that in Samoa it self no one is above the law! obedence is number one! in NZ there is no such thing no punishment for wrong doing in fact it's incouraged and encouraging it ends into what was only thoughts into action

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