Why are Latin American people not scr...

Why are Latin American people not scrutinized for the one drop rule

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African dude

Edmonton, Canada

#1 Feb 24, 2008
...The way that blacks are? People always question the blackness of black celebrities or notable mixed blacks like Frederick Douglas or recently, Barack Obama but not the pure blood of Latin Americans. You always here comments like, "c'mon now, who would you rather shag, Beyonce or Alek Wek? Blacks have to be mixed to be pretty unlike pure whites, Asians, Indians, Arabs and LATINOS." yet people like Ricky Martin and Shakira look (and probably are) completely Caucasian. I mean have you ever seen a non (or at least scantly) mixed Latin American? They look nothing like the people that pass for "Hispanic". How in the hell is Meagan Good considered mixed but not Eva Longoria? Hell, how are Jennifer Lopez or Eva Mendes not considered mixed raced people? Most people can't tell the difference between Penelope Cruz (a white Spaniard) and Latin American actors/actresses like Salma Hayek (who apparently doesen't have ANY indigenous blood!) whereas nobody would mistake Beyonce for a random Caucasian woman. Why are blacks the only ones held under this scrutiny?
And before any one mentions it, I KNOW that "Hispanic" does not refer to race officially but let's face it, practically everyone (including professional news anchors) uses it to refer to the native Latin Americans.
Guy

Compton, CA

#2 Feb 24, 2008
because america is a racist country
Nappy

AOL

#3 Feb 24, 2008
African dude wrote:
...The way that blacks are? People always question the blackness of black celebrities or notable mixed blacks like Frederick Douglas or recently, Barack Obama but not the pure blood of Latin Americans. You always here comments like, "c'mon now, who would you rather shag, Beyonce or Alek Wek? Blacks have to be mixed to be pretty unlike pure whites, Asians, Indians, Arabs and LATINOS." yet people like Ricky Martin and Shakira look (and probably are) completely Caucasian. I mean have you ever seen a non (or at least scantly) mixed Latin American? They look nothing like the people that pass for "Hispanic". How in the hell is Meagan Good considered mixed but not Eva Longoria? Hell, how are Jennifer Lopez or Eva Mendes not considered mixed raced people? Most people can't tell the difference between Penelope Cruz (a white Spaniard) and Latin American actors/actresses like Salma Hayek (who apparently doesen't have ANY indigenous blood!) whereas nobody would mistake Beyonce for a random Caucasian woman. Why are blacks the only ones held under this scrutiny?
And before any one mentions it, I KNOW that "Hispanic" does not refer to race officially but let's face it, practically everyone (including professional news anchors) uses it to refer to the native Latin Americans.
Because the black race is the original race, the race that God saw fit to make first, and some people can't seem to accept that.
African dude

Edmonton, Canada

#4 Feb 24, 2008
Bump.
African dude

Edmonton, Canada

#5 Feb 24, 2008
Bump again, come on folks.
jocietay

Santa Cruz, CA

#6 Feb 24, 2008
i think hispanics, when they come to the US are not seen as being just white but something other or mixed, and the one drop rule does apply to them, especially in hollywood, they are discriminated against are or given limited roles due to the fact that they are hispanics, but some of them that look very white like cameron diaz are seen as being more white than hispanic
jocietay

Santa Cruz, CA

#7 Feb 24, 2008
i am talking about mestizos only because obviously there are white hispanics and every other race is the hispanic community of course
shallow hal

Australia

#8 Feb 24, 2008
Latinos are very much mixed.

Ricki Martin is Puerto Rican... I've been to Puerto Rico.. the majority of them look similar to Turkish/Hungarian and Lebanese people with a little bit of black...

There's a minority of people with the black/islander mix.... such as Tego Calderon and Don Omar.. but most of the Ricans look kinda arab...
Reality check

AOL

#9 Feb 24, 2008
Guy wrote:
because america is a racist country
Fact is, there is colorism all over the world. Why else is skin bleaching so common in India? And even Africa is no different. This African woman on the Tyra show, says she was discrimated against in Africa because her skin was so dark, and that she wasn't treated much better by Black Americans when she moved to the states. Her idol is Alek Wek, who also appeared on the show.
IULION

Bloomington, IN

#10 Feb 25, 2008
Reality check wrote:
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Fact is, there is colorism all over the world. Why else is skin bleaching so common in India? And even Africa is no different. This African woman on the Tyra show, says she was discrimated against in Africa because her skin was so dark, and that she wasn't treated much better by Black Americans when she moved to the states. Her idol is Alek Wek, who also appeared on the show.http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=MA8R81-TsiIXX
Don't say Africa! Africa is not a country...HER Country is very unique in Africa...
African dude

Edmonton, Canada

#12 Feb 25, 2008
I have a hard time believing those sources Reality Check, as those quotes come directly from WHITE MEN. They spoke all sorts of bullshit about us Africans on our behalf back then.

Anyway, let's stay on topic.
African dude

Edmonton, Canada

#14 Feb 25, 2008
Exactly, I don't like black women lighter than Meagan Good at all for example. That was just typical white colonial bullshit.
African dude

Edmonton, Canada

#15 Feb 25, 2008
Somebody please answer this question.

“Proud of my African Heritage”

Since: Oct 07

New York

#16 Feb 25, 2008
Latino people don't go for that one drop stuff...they hate bing compared to black because alot of them think they're better...i know it sounds harsh but thats the vibe i get from my latino(a)associates. IDK Don't get me wrong latino people are cool they just don't like being compared to us and for what reason i really don't know

“They eat diamonds like seeds..”

Since: Jan 08

Atlanta, GA

#17 Feb 25, 2008
African dude wrote:
...The way that blacks are? People always question the blackness of black celebrities or notable mixed blacks like Frederick Douglas or recently, Barack Obama but not the pure blood of Latin Americans. You always here comments like, "c'mon now, who would you rather shag, Beyonce or Alek Wek? Blacks have to be mixed to be pretty unlike pure whites, Asians, Indians, Arabs and LATINOS." yet people like Ricky Martin and Shakira look (and probably are) completely Caucasian. I mean have you ever seen a non (or at least scantly) mixed Latin American? They look nothing like the people that pass for "Hispanic". How in the hell is Meagan Good considered mixed but not Eva Longoria? Hell, how are Jennifer Lopez or Eva Mendes not considered mixed raced people? Most people can't tell the difference between Penelope Cruz (a white Spaniard) and Latin American actors/actresses like Salma Hayek (who apparently doesen't have ANY indigenous blood!) whereas nobody would mistake Beyonce for a random Caucasian woman. Why are blacks the only ones held under this scrutiny?
And before any one mentions it, I KNOW that "Hispanic" does not refer to race officially but let's face it, practically everyone (including professional news anchors) uses it to refer to the native Latin Americans.
Your right Hispanic is not a race. "Hispanic" is usually refered to those who "speak" spanish. People who are from South America are considered latin American. People who are mexican are "usually" considered hispanic.

Most of those people you mentioned, racially are white. There are brazilians who look like Beyonce, but racially they're still black.
I think Salma Hayek is of Lebanese and Spanish heritage. Eva Longoria has stated that she is the brownest person in her family of blond and blue eyed sisters; she is not mixed! Shakira is columbian and lebanese and is WHITE! All of those people are white to begin with?

This thread sounds like that retarded "are Italians black?" thread! How can there be a one drop rule if these people are white to begin with? They just speak a different language and look mediterranean, because the Spaniards conquered a huge part of latin America, which can explain the olive complexion.

Not only that perhaps they appear this way, because of their environment?

Hmmmmm.......

“They eat diamonds like seeds..”

Since: Jan 08

Atlanta, GA

#18 Feb 25, 2008
Frederick Douglas is questinable. Even he himself did'nt know who his father is.....
African dude

Edmonton, Canada

#19 Feb 25, 2008
Tableux wrote:
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How can there be a one drop rule if these people are white to begin with? They just speak a different language and look mediterranean, because the Spaniards conquered a huge part of latin America, which can explain the olive complexion.
Not only that perhaps they appear this way, because of their environment?
Hmmmmm.......
I'm WELL aware of EVERYTHING you mentioned, which is EXACTLY why I made this thread. People ALWAYS make the distinction between whites and "Hiispanics" when the topic of race is brought up and you know that. The general public doesn't consider black Brazilian people or Mediterraneans to be Latino (Portuguese speaking people are not Hispanic btw) but rather the brown skinned Native peoples. Your post imparted nothing new to me and totally missed the point.

I just noticed that the brownest George Lopez-like mestizo/aboriginal is considered the same race as these genotypically white individuals with no protest whatsoever yet Americans continue to make it a point that Beyonce and Alicia Keys have non-black ancestry. I'm just wondering why the hell people who are blatantly predominantly (or in some cases even wholly) Mediterranean white are considered one in the same as the more indigenous folks yet American blacks must look completely West African to not be considered "bi-racial". People highlight the light-skin/dark skin disparity among black celebrities to point out black self-hatred but you never see any criticism of mestizo Latinos for using models like Vida Guerra and Sofia Vergara to represent themselves.

“They eat diamonds like seeds..”

Since: Jan 08

Atlanta, GA

#20 Feb 25, 2008
African dude wrote:
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I'm WELL aware of EVERYTHING you mentioned, which is EXACTLY why I made this thread. People ALWAYS make the distinction between whites and "Hiispanics" when the topic of race is brought up and you know that. The general public doesn't consider black Brazilian people or Mediterraneans to be Latino (Portuguese speaking people are not Hispanic btw) but rather the brown skinned Native peoples. Your post imparted nothing new to me and totally missed the point.
I just noticed that the brownest George Lopez-like mestizo/aboriginal is considered the same race as these genotypically white individuals with no protest whatsoever yet Americans continue to make it a point that Beyonce and Alicia Keys have non-black ancestry. I'm just wondering why the hell people who are blatantly predominantly (or in some cases even wholly) Mediterranean white are considered one in the same as the more indigenous folks yet American blacks must look completely West African to not be considered "bi-racial". People highlight the light-skin/dark skin disparity among black celebrities to point out black self-hatred but you never see any criticism of mestizo Latinos for using models like Vida Guerra and Sofia Vergara to represent themselves.
Your obviously not looking closely.

For one, I never said Portuguese speaking or mediteranean people were hispanic. Two, have you ever lived in a spanish speaking country? Or better yet, have you ever traveled to one? I here and see hispanics complaining about how certain models,actresses and actors and T.V personalities shoud NOT be a representation of them. HELLO!? Take Cuba for instance. Alot of Cubans are brown skinned or olive skinned. When you look at cuban magazines and cuban actors and actresses they are white. Many Cubans are very upset about this, because they think they are wrongfully representing Cuban people.

Not only that where I am from people consider Alicia Keys and Beyonce black! Than again, when you focus on negativity your usually a negative person yourself.( oh and btw the aboriginals are Australian natives)
African dude

Edmonton, Canada

#21 Feb 25, 2008
I've been to Cuba (as recently as four years ago) and Mexico. And for the last time, I'm talking about the GENERAL PUBLIC's perception (that includes whites, Asians and blacks), not that of the Latin Americans themselves. Please learn how to read ffs. "Aboriginal" is a term, not an ethnicity (WTF??). And a hell of a lot of people don't consider Beyonce and Alicia Keys "real" blacks. Atlanta might not think so, but a great portion of the world does. And finally, your assertion that I'm a "negative" person is laughable. Every single black person I know, including myself, is 100% African. Colorism isn't an issue where I live by any stretch of the imagination. I could give a shit about the one-drop-rule (I'm just intrigued by a bizarre double standard, okay?).
the_truth_be_tol d2006

Pigeon Forge, TN

#22 Feb 25, 2008
African dude wrote:
...The way that blacks are? People always question the blackness of black celebrities or notable mixed blacks like Frederick Douglas or recently, Barack Obama but not the pure blood of Latin Americans. You always here comments like, "c'mon now, who would you rather shag, Beyonce or Alek Wek? Blacks have to be mixed to be pretty unlike pure whites, Asians, Indians, Arabs and LATINOS." yet people like Ricky Martin and Shakira look (and probably are) completely Caucasian. I mean have you ever seen a non (or at least scantly) mixed Latin American? They look nothing like the people that pass for "Hispanic". How in the hell is Meagan Good considered mixed but not Eva Longoria? Hell, how are Jennifer Lopez or Eva Mendes not considered mixed raced people? Most people can't tell the difference between Penelope Cruz (a white Spaniard) and Latin American actors/actresses like Salma Hayek (who apparently doesen't have ANY indigenous blood!) whereas nobody would mistake Beyonce for a random Caucasian woman. Why are blacks the only ones held under this scrutiny?
And before any one mentions it, I KNOW that "Hispanic" does not refer to race officially but let's face it, practically everyone (including professional news anchors) uses it to refer to the native Latin Americans.
Because Latinos don't run around waving their ethnicity around in everyone's faces like it's a badge of courage or badge of shame. You might be surprised waht you would find if you ever decided to be Americans instead of some outcast gathering of disgruntled do nothings.

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