MASON or EASTERN STAR

MASON or EASTERN STAR

Created by Traveling Man on Nov 16, 2007

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Dan in Pa

Havertown, PA

#71 Jan 5, 2008
Prince Hall is buried in Copp's Hill Burying Ground in Boston in the same grave as his first wife. The monumental stone carries the inscription;

Here lies ye body of Sarah Ritchery, wife of Prince Hall, died Feby the 26th, 1769, aged 24 years. On the back of the stone, added some time later, is the inscription;

Here lies the body of Prince Hall, First Grand Master of the Colored Grand Lodge of Masons in Mass., died Dec.7, 1807.

Since: Oct 07

chicago

#72 Jan 5, 2008
Dan in Pa wrote:
Prince Hall's death was reported in the Boston Gazette for Monday, 7 December 1807:
DEATHS. On Friday morning, Mr. Prince Hall, aged 72,
ben bey was also known as moses 72..

Are there any records of grandmaster mason ben bey and prince hall master mason every meeting?????????? They were both high ranking masons and "black"...so they there has to be record of them meeting each other..

Since: Oct 07

chicago

#73 Jan 5, 2008
Ben banneker bey's fez is displayed in george washington's

http://youtube.com/watch...

Since: Oct 07

chicago

#74 Jan 5, 2008
Dan in Pa wrote:
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You can't get your research material from U Tube. That shows intellectual sloppiness.
Prince Hall Freemasonry was started by Prince Hall himself, a free black man in Massachusetts pruporteldly from Jamaica maan. He received his charter for the new grand lodge from those white Englishmen (United Grand Lodge of England). I think his first lodge was called Africa Lodge.
maybe to you....

There are references in the videos. Its no just some guy talking..
Dan in Pa

Havertown, PA

#75 Jan 5, 2008
Morrison73 wrote:
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maybe to you....
There are references in the videos. Its no just some guy talking..
I'm afraid your video is so full of inaccuracies that I must dismiss it's merits out of hand.

From all I have seen, Benjamin Banneker was the first black scientist and one of the most learned black men of his time. However, the Prince Hall history is very clear as to who, how and when black freemasonry began. It was nowhere near Maryland/DC where Benjamin Banneker spent his entire life.

Furthermore, Benjamin did assist in the surveying of Washington, but did so under the man he was working for at the time (L'Enfant I believe his name was). The original maps are at the Library of Congress and it is quite clear who carried out that survey. Mr Banneker actually had to had to quit the survey at one point due to his advanced age and the roughness of the wilderness terrain.

Do you have any primary sources for the information you say you believe? These UTube video is pure conjecture my friend.

Since: Oct 07

chicago

#76 Jan 5, 2008
Dan in Pa wrote:
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I'm afraid your video is so full of inaccuracies that I must dismiss it's merits out of hand.
From all I have seen, Benjamin Banneker was the first black scientist and one of the most learned black men of his time. However, the Prince Hall history is very clear as to who, how and when black freemasonry began. It was nowhere near Maryland/DC where Benjamin Banneker spent his entire life.
Furthermore, Benjamin did assist in the surveying of Washington, but did so under the man he was working for at the time (L'Enfant I believe his name was). The original maps are at the Library of Congress and it is quite clear who carried out that survey. Mr Banneker actually had to had to quit the survey at one point due to his advanced age and the roughness of the wilderness terrain.
Do you have any primary sources for the information you say you believe? These UTube video is pure conjecture my friend.
L'Enfant was out of town when the project was going on..

Since: Oct 07

chicago

#77 Jan 5, 2008
Dan in Pa wrote:
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I'm afraid your video is so full of inaccuracies that I must dismiss it's merits out of hand.
From all I have seen, Benjamin Banneker was the first black scientist and one of the most learned black men of his time. However, the Prince Hall history is very clear as to who, how and when black freemasonry began. It was nowhere near Maryland/DC where Benjamin Banneker spent his entire life.
Furthermore, Benjamin did assist in the surveying of Washington, but did so under the man he was working for at the time (L'Enfant I believe his name was). The original maps are at the Library of Congress and it is quite clear who carried out that survey. Mr Banneker actually had to had to quit the survey at one point due to his advanced age and the roughness of the wilderness terrain.
Do you have any primary sources for the information you say you believe? These UTube video is pure conjecture my friend.
Do you have any information on prince hall's that isn't a mystery or a conspiracy on who he was and where he is from.

Since: Oct 07

chicago

#78 Jan 5, 2008
Banneker was the man people need to look at for the credit of washington d.c's layout. L'Enfant was in france and Ben Bey was said to have memorized the plans...i don't know about you but memorizing an entire plan is almost impossible if one didn't create it. common sense and rational thinking will tell one that banneker was the head guy

“I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE FIRST!”

Since: Apr 07

25,000 Gee

#79 Jan 5, 2008
they study islam

Since: Oct 07

chicago

#80 Jan 5, 2008
watitdos little cousin wrote:
they study islam
they study moorish sciences...we all know christians had absolutely no knowledge to even pass on when masonry was even thought about..

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Since: Apr 07

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#81 Jan 5, 2008
Morrison73 wrote:
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they study moorish sciences...we all know christians had absolutely no knowledge to even pass on when masonry was even thought about..
since they were made and not created they study islam... islam means submission... and obedience.

when they were made (grafted) they were not created in the way of righteousness so that s makes their nature unable to submit and follow the law of god.

everything in gods creation submits... willingly... if a thing that is in his creation that has been made from his creation that is not submitting now... it will soon do so... everything will submit... willingly or unwillingly.

every law that god has set up concerning righteousness must be obeyed... or else that what is defying the law will cease to be.

no matter what it is... no matter what stage of its development.

so they practice islam... and call it another name... that is why they use the holy quran but don't admit it.

Since: Oct 07

chicago

#82 Jan 5, 2008
watitdos little cousin wrote:
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since they were made and not created they study islam... islam means submission... and obedience.
when they were made (grafted) they were not created in the way of righteousness so that s makes their nature unable to submit and follow the law of god.
everything in gods creation submits... willingly... if a thing that is in his creation that has been made from his creation that is not submitting now... it will soon do so... everything will submit... willingly or unwillingly.
every law that god has set up concerning righteousness must be obeyed... or else that what is defying the law will cease to be.
no matter what it is... no matter what stage of its development.
so they practice islam... and call it another name... that is why they use the holy quran but don't admit it.
Islam in its modern form is a patriarch type bastardized version of islam.

The moors practiced a balanced female and male element of kemetic sciences. You even had females as generals in moorish armies...

http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/dahia.html

“I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE FIRST!”

Since: Apr 07

25,000 Gee

#83 Jan 5, 2008
Morrison73 wrote:
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Islam in its modern form is a patriarch type bastardized version of islam.
The moors practiced a balanced female and male element of kemetic sciences. You even had females as generals in moorish armies...
http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/dahia.html
islam means submission... everything in the universe from its creation was created to submit... that is the beginning.

the earth has been spinning at a speed of 1033 1/3 miles per hour ever since it was created... that is submission.

we talk out of mouths and hear with our ears and se with our eyes and taste with our tongue and touch with our skin since we have been created... that is obedience.

fish live in water since it was created... that is submission.

our hearts beat nd pump blood since it was created... that is submission.

islam is in creation at the beginning.

Since: Oct 07

chicago

#84 Jan 5, 2008
watitdos little cousin wrote:
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islam means submission... everything in the universe from its creation was created to submit... that is the beginning.
the earth has been spinning at a speed of 1033 1/3 miles per hour ever since it was created... that is submission.
we talk out of mouths and hear with our ears and se with our eyes and taste with our tongue and touch with our skin since we have been created... that is obedience.
fish live in water since it was created... that is submission.
our hearts beat nd pump blood since it was created... that is submission.
islam is in creation at the beginning.
submit to whom or what ????? the creator

“I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE FIRST!”

Since: Apr 07

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#85 Jan 5, 2008
Morrison73 wrote:
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submit to whom or what ????? the creator
thats going to happen regardless.

everything will submit... willingly or unwillingly.

Since: Oct 07

chicago

#86 Jan 5, 2008
watitdos little cousin wrote:
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thats going to happen regardless.
everything will submit... willingly or unwillingly.
I personally don't practice any form of islam. Submitting to the creator for me is actively using my free will. I was blessed with free will and power to create my reality from my thought and energy.

“I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE FIRST!”

Since: Apr 07

25,000 Gee

#87 Jan 5, 2008
Morrison73 wrote:
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I personally don't practice any form of islam. Submitting to the creator for me is actively using my free will. I was blessed with free will and power to create my reality from my thought and energy.
everything in creation submits willingly or unwillingly.

call it what you will.

and thats peace.
curious

AOL

#88 Feb 12, 2008
Semper Fidelis "always faithful" is something that the Marines and Masons stand firm on. Why? What is going on in those lodges and boot camp? Forgive my ignorance and understand my curiosity. What are Eastern Stars exactly? Why do they have to ride goats? Maybe that's just a myth. I'm not here to offend anyone again I am merely curious.

“can't we talk about it....”

Since: Jan 08

chicago

#89 Feb 14, 2008
Morrison73 wrote:
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Blacks aren't real masons. We are the descendants of the moors who initiated caucasians into masonry. Masonry is for caucasians. Moorish Science is for moors.
i thought Moorish Science is a religion..?

“can't we talk about it....”

Since: Jan 08

chicago

#90 Feb 14, 2008
curious wrote:
Semper Fidelis "always faithful" is something that the Marines and Masons stand firm on. Why? What is going on in those lodges and boot camp? Forgive my ignorance and understand my curiosity. What are Eastern Stars exactly? Why do they have to ride goats? Maybe that's just a myth. I'm not here to offend anyone again I am merely curious.
Eastern Stars are the female extension(so to speak)of Masons. If you want information,just google Masons and read what you want to know...they'll tell you history and ritual...just don't stop at the articles against Free Masonry, read from every point of view...

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