Church Leaders Vow Political Backlash if Gay Marriage Passes

Jan 7, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: NBC Chicago

Leaders of several Chicago-area African American churches on Monday urged state lawmakers to vote against pending legislation that would allow same-sex marriage in Illinois.

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In the United States, every state and the District of Columbia have some form of codified incest prohibition.

However, individual statutes vary widely. Rhode Island repealed its criminal incest statute in 1989, Ohio only targets parental figures, and New Jersey does not apply any penalties when both parties are over the age of 18. Yet Massachusetts issues a penalty of up to 20 years' imprisonment for those engaging in "sexual activities" with relatives closer than first cousins, and Hawaii up to 5 years in jail for "sexual penetration" with certain blood relatives and even in-laws.

Georgia incest laws forbid intercourse between parents and children (including step), brothers and sisters (including half), and grandparents and grandchildren.
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In the United States the District of Columbia and every state, except Rhode Island, have some form of codified incest prohibition.[37] However, individual statutes vary widely. Rhode Island repealed its criminal incest statute in 1989,[37] Ohio only targets parental figures,[37] and New Jersey does not apply any penalties when both parties are 18 years of age or older.[37] A conviction for incest attracts the following penalties by state:
5 years imprisonment in Hawaii
10 years imprisonment in North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota
14 years imprisonment in California, Oregon, Washington, Alaska and Idaho
15 years imprisonment in Connecticut, Maryland, Delaware, Virginia and West Virginia
20 years imprisonment in Massachusetts, New York, New Hampshire, Maine, Pennsylvania, and Vermont
25 years imprisonment in Kansas, Nebraska, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, Wyoming, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana and Kentucky
Life imprisonment in Florida, Georgia,[38] Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee.
Three convictions or more of incest also require the offenders to register as "Sex Offenders"
In all states, close blood-relatives that fall under the incest statutes include:
Father
Mother
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Grandmother
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Uncle
Niece
Nephew
First cousins (in some states)
Rhode Island allows uncles to marry their nieces if they are part of a community, such as orthodox Jews, for whom such marriages are permitted. Many states also apply incest laws to non-blood relations, including stepparents, step-siblings, and in-laws.[39]
UCLA law professor Eugene Volokh has questioned the rationale behind laws prohibiting incest, at least as they apply to sex between adults.[40]

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Why is Pietro so obsessed with sex with his female family members?

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Why is Pietro so obsessed with sex with his female family members?
I could make a joke like, "if only you saw my sister", but it'd be wasted on u, not to mention it might be viewed in poor taste. But it falls under the category of , "never knew that". So does this mean you're talking to me again, or only through other posters?

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I could make a joke like, "if only you saw my sister", but it'd be wasted on u, not to mention it might be viewed in poor taste. But it falls under the category of , "never knew that". So does this mean you're talking to me again, or only through other posters?
Your sister may even like the attention.

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Your sister may even like the attention.
Thanks Wastey, I knew I could count on you.:)

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They will fall soon. People like yourself don't have the wherewithal to offer any argument justifying them. They violate full faith and credit. I suspect that one of the new challenges to the state bans will make its way to the US Supreme Court and same sex marriage bans will be overturned on a broad basis, effectively rendering DOMA irrelevant.
I think it's more likely, we'll pass a Constitutional Amendment to protect marriage.

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<quoted text>I think it's more likely, we'll pass a Constitutional Amendment to protect marriage.
Unconstitutional laws can be made Constitutional....Soon nation wide same sex marriage will be legal...If it bothers you so much I hear your kind will fit in in Iran real nice....Tyranny is the friend of far right religous slime....LEAVE THIS FREE NATION.

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The gay community's request to have their marriages federally recognized is NOT a request for "anything goes".
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Like what? The only effect I've seen is that people who are in a bad marriage can get out.
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This version of marriage has a real bias against children from unmarried parents. It also seems useless to married couples who have no children.
To suggest that it weakens ANYTHING for the state to uphold its compelling interest of treating gay citizens the same as ALL citizens is nothing but an insult. It's also just a retread of anti-interracial marriage arguments.
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"Siblings" and "spouses" describes two different relationships, one of which is already family. Someone in the UK justice system believed that they should not get the break, so argue it with them.
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How is that a function? If you stop at the word "joining", you've defined the function enough.
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But many gay couples WILL raise the next generation (RAISING children being more important than HAVING them). If straight couples need marriage to protect their children, then so do gay couples.
But no one needs a marriage to protect their children. Children are protected whether their parents are married or not.
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Siblings are already family. They don't need a contract to enshrine it further.
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American law is always changing... but you knew that.
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No joke, NJ has no incest laws. Many states already allow what you're worried gay marriage will cause.
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No ennumerating for you, huh? As usual.
Biology has nothing to do with marriage. Marriage does not exist in nature or biology, it's entirely a human construct. No other animal does it. Procreation isn't inhibited in the absence of marriage, nor is it bolstered by its presence.
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Yes, I'm sure that's how they decided to busy themselves. I'm sure it was THAT, rather than the fact that these are separate issues with their own complications.
Fantastic response.

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At what point do we stop allowing government to dictate our private morals? If homosexuality is immoral or lewd and though not harming those participating nor the society to whose general well being we structure moral code by then what restraint has a states legislature? What then prevents the governing authority to legislate one's private alcohol consumption or smoking habits. Should a state decide masturbation and pornagraphy equal in vice to sodomy? What limits it to not regulate private cursing, passing gas, or left handedness as offensive and immoral to society? This decision to allow a state to determine if a legal union can be made by two same sex people on account of whether or not the general state population in majority has determined deprave their divergence in private moralities from the normal sexual behavior. A majority can not dictate the validity of anothers priviedge and deny them full faith and credit by the merits of a loosely defined general sense of morality based on religious doctrine and not documented occurrences of actual harm to society. If we have nothing but theologic historia to define our cultures permissible behaviors and then etch them to our constitution prohibiting an immorality, what limits further tyranny by the majority? What protects people from an overreaching religious persuasion? To the states it is decided. This opens the door for debate on private moralities and how moral code is legislated.

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I think it's more likely, we'll pass a Constitutional Amendment to protect marriage.
With a congress that couldn't pass gas?

You've just proven that you are a moron.

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A bit of cut and paste for you:
In the United States, every state and the District of Columbia have some form of codified incest prohibition.
However, individual statutes vary widely. Rhode Island repealed its criminal incest statute in 1989, Ohio only targets parental figures, and New Jersey does not apply any penalties when both parties are over the age of 18. Yet Massachusetts issues a penalty of up to 20 years' imprisonment for those engaging in "sexual activities" with relatives closer than first cousins, and Hawaii up to 5 years in jail for "sexual penetration" with certain blood relatives and even in-laws.
Georgia incest laws forbid intercourse between parents and children (including step), brothers and sisters (including half), and grandparents and grandchildren.
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You seem to be laboring under the impression that this string is about incest. It isn't.

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Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I think it's more likely, we'll pass a Constitutional Amendment to protect marriage.
LOL!!! Brian_G_Idiot, that will never happen. Wanna no why? Because neither you, nor anyone else on your side has yet to present any actual threat that marriage is under!!

"Protect" marriage. What a load of bullshyt!!!!

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Unconstitutional laws can be made Constitutional....Soon nation wide same sex marriage will be legal...If it bothers you so much I hear your kind will fit in in Iran real nice....Tyranny is the friend of far right religous slime....LEAVE THIS FREE NATION.
Actually, TYRANNY is a friend of the Left. In this country we call it "OBAMACARE".

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Why is Pietro so obsessed with sex with his female family members?
Because he's not dealing with a full deck. That's demonstrated daily by his repetitive nonsensical posts, and his belief that marriage is tied to incest and polygamy.

He's an idiot.

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Fantastic response.
Sparkle!

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You seem to be laboring under the impression that this string is about incest. It isn't.
It would explain you.

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Because he's not dealing with a full deck. That's demonstrated daily by his repetitive nonsensical posts, and his belief that marriage is tied to incest and polygamy.
He's an idiot.
Hellllooooo....McFly, polygamy IS marriage, a valid form throughout time and place.

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Thanks Wastey, I knew I could count on you.:)
Yea. I'm selling rat's asses. Ten for a dollar individually gift wrapped. Thought you might be interested.

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Hellllooooo....McFly, polygamy IS marriage, a valid form throughout time and place.
Sure Pietro. No doubt. One of the most interesting aspects of the whole arrangement is the fact that only one usually becomes the primary along with her progeny as heir and successor. I don't know of any traditional polygamy arrangements other than one man with multiple wives. Kind of paternal don't you think? While we are messing things up, how about a Poly marriage with several men and several women without regard to the exact number of each?

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