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Because black people aren't really African are they, I mean, Africa is the 'motherland' so really everyone in the world could be called African if they wanted to- and Black People in UK don't call themselves African UK's ???!!! I'm very confused.
Do Black people in Germany call them selves African Germans, or Australian black people call themselves African Australian. Why not jus be called Black??

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Louise wrote:
Because black people aren't really African are they, I mean, Africa is the 'motherland' so really everyone in the world could be called African if they wanted to- and Black People in UK don't call themselves African UK's ???!!! I'm very confused.
Do Black people in Germany call them selves African Germans, or Australian black people call themselves African Australian. Why not jus be called Black??
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There is no such thing as a white African.
Education is the Key

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Louise -

it's true that Africans who have lived in the UK for a long time aren't know as African British - they are just simply 'Black.

Did you have a look at the cover of the Metro newspaper today?
This is the headline:

It's true
Black Do
Get searched
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Police.

Being called Black limits you entirely - more so than if you were to be know as ‘Black American’. I believe that being called ‘Black’ in this day and age is backwards – and an inverted type of RACISM. It is limiting and has mostly nothing but negative associations.

Again – I don’t like telling people what to do but I would recommend that you go out and start or join a political group – look into this matter. Are you being limited or not? Are you being duped into accepting something that doesn’t actually help you progress in life?

This doesn’t mean that you are ashamed of having dark skin colour – it just means that you are not defined by your skin tone – which is the case at present.
Education is the Key

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Oct 31, 2007
 
My apologies:

It’s true
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Olive wrote:
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There is no such thing as a white African.
I think he's refering to Afrikaaners of south Africa who are white.
C-Bisquit

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Education is the Key wrote:
Louise -
it's true that Africans who have lived in the UK for a long time aren't know as African British - they are just simply 'Black.
Did you have a look at the cover of the Metro newspaper today?
This is the headline:
It's true
Black Do
Get searched
More by the
Police.
Being called Black limits you entirely - more so than if you were to be know as ‘Black American’. I believe that being called ‘Black’ in this day and age is backwards – and an inverted type of RACISM. It is limiting and has mostly nothing but negative associations.
Again – I don’t like telling people what to do but I would recommend that you go out and start or join a political group – look into this matter. Are you being limited or not? Are you being duped into accepting something that doesn’t actually help you progress in life?
This doesn’t mean that you are ashamed of having dark skin colour – it just means that you are not defined by your skin tone – which is the case at present.
I shall follow up on this more later, the color black did not always have negative meaning behind it, its all psychological Europeans will make themselves out to be pure and holy by defining the color white as such. Pictures of White Jesus anyone? They want you to believe god is white. And you therefore put white people closer to god when you see the state of black America in poor conditions, conditions which have nothing to do with the color of their skin but on the class america has placed them in. Is it a coincidence that the darkest people in the world seem to be doing worst? Not at all they've only been shadowed by white power.
Louise

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Education is the Key wrote:
Louise -
it's true that Africans who have lived in the UK for a long time aren't know as African British - they are just simply 'Black.
Did you have a look at the cover of the Metro newspaper today?
This is the headline:
It's true
Black Do
Get searched
More by the
Police.
Being called Black limits you entirely - more so than if you were to be know as ‘Black American’. I believe that being called ‘Black’ in this day and age is backwards – and an inverted type of RACISM. It is limiting and has mostly nothing but negative associations.
Again – I don’t like telling people what to do but I would recommend that you go out and start or join a political group – look into this matter. Are you being limited or not? Are you being duped into accepting something that doesn’t actually help you progress in life?
This doesn’t mean that you are ashamed of having dark skin colour – it just means that you are not defined by your skin tone – which is the case at present.
Well white people are then simply 'white' aren't they. You can't use one rule for one set of people and a totally different one for another.
Louise

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C-Bisquit wrote:
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I shall follow up on this more later, the color black did not always have negative meaning behind it, its all psychological Europeans will make themselves out to be pure and holy by defining the color white as such. Pictures of White Jesus anyone? They want you to believe god is white. And you therefore put white people closer to god when you see the state of black America in poor conditions, conditions which have nothing to do with the color of their skin but on the class america has placed them in. Is it a coincidence that the darkest people in the world seem to be doing worst? Not at all they've only been shadowed by white power.
Anyone with half a brain realises that Jesus wasn't white- he lived in Israel/Jerusalem ffs.
And why has this turned into a 'the poor downtrodden black man' post AGAIN???!!!
I know plenty of black people that have worked hard and now earn more than my parents.
And what do you think about Indians etc that are Doctors- why is it not that their colour has held them back?

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Ok. I prefer the term Black, personally. I'm not really "in touch" with the hyphenated American philosophy. This issue is so complex...If the goal is simply to categorize race, I think "Black" does it pretty well. "African-American", taken at face value could mean a White immigrant from South Africa.
louise

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Oct 31, 2007
 
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nunyabeezwax

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Olive wrote:
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There is no such thing as a white African.
Oh really? Go tell Charlize Theron and Theresa Heinz-Kerry. They will be shocked to hear.
Louise

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Obviously- i have you all stumped with this question- or you realise how ridiculous the term 'african-american' is, and are now too embarrassed to answer lmao!!
Education is the Key

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Nov 1, 2007
 
Louise,

the questions that you're asking are important. I feel that I do have some way of an answer but it would take time - as you are an inquiring person.

At the moment I don’t have much time to spare as I am in my final year and need to keep up with the work.

I’ll be back here sometime in spring/summer. I hope that we can pick up from here then – but in the meantime, I hope that you do find answers to your questions.

Please keep searching for the right solution.

All the best,

Education is the Key
White African

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The reason (according to me) we can get so tangled in this question is that in some cases we use the term African to describe a race of people (black people) and sometimes to describe where that person came from (born). As long as we do this, there will be this arguments and we will never get to an answer.

So, if we think of African as skin color, then there cannot be white African-Americans.
If we think of African as where you were born, then yes, there can be white African-Americans.
Ebony

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nunyabeezwax wrote:
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Oh really? Go tell Charlize Theron and Theresa Heinz-Kerry. They will be shocked to hear.
Who cares what they think I don't if they get upset to bad.

“My Bloed is Groen”

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Ebony wrote:
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Who cares what they think I don't if they get upset to bad.
Hi Ebony.

I knew this couldn't slip past you.Anyway,Charlize Theron is German.
Renman

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Louise wrote:
Obviously- i have you all stumped with this question- or you realise how ridiculous the term 'african-american' is, and are now too embarrassed to answer lmao!!
You're correct....the term is ridiculous. It comes from their deliberate repudiation of America. It's a slap in our face. Unless you were born there and migrated here...you're NOT african-american. Just American. Or black American.

"African-American" being used by those not from Africa is an affront to Americans.
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I BELIEVE THAT IF A PERSON IS BORN IN AFRICA, OR TO PARENTS FROM AFRICA, BUT BECOME AMERICAN CITIZENS, THAN THEY ARE AFRICAN AMERICAN.I DON'T THINK AFRICAN IS A SKIN COLOR. I THINK IT IS A CONTINENT, AND PEOPLE WHO ARE BORN THERE, OR BORN TO PARENTS OF ONE OF THE COUNTRIES IN THAT CONTINENT, THEY ARE AFRICAN. IF THEY RELOCATE TO THIS COUNTRY, OR ARE PHYSICALLY BORN IN THIS COUNTRY, THEY ARE AMERICANS OF AFRICAN DESCENT, ALSO KNOWN AS AFRICAN-AMERICANS.
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Louise wrote:
Because black people aren't really African are they, I mean, Africa is the 'motherland' so really everyone in the world could be called African if they wanted to- and Black People in UK don't call themselves African UK's ???!!! I'm very confused.
Do Black people in Germany call them selves African Germans, or Australian black people call themselves African Australian. Why not jus be called Black??
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It was Jessie Jackson, while on his trip to Africa during the Clinton administration that dubbed us "African Americans". It's not a real nationality and quite frankly Congress ought to STOP designating racial categories.

It's going to get even more ridiculous in the future as more groups demand a return with racial stratification.

http://multiracial.com/site/content/view/42/2...
Olive

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Whites from South Africa should not be included as either African American or African Canadian for the simple fact they did not go through and face the suffering and pain of racism like African Americans and to a far lesser extent African Canadians did, I feel it would not be right. They were the oppressors, in fact they are not even truly African.

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