Knowledge

Bronx, NY

#2355 May 7, 2014
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
I las ready have posted quite a few on M and N, why do you continue to resist?
Click and see the phylogenetic tree. Don't be scared.
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/3/75...
Quote:
Africa origin (haplogroups M and N) were the progenitors
--Tishkoff., "Haplogroups M and N with an African origin"
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Although Haplogroup M differentiated
soon after the out of Africa exit and it is
widely distributed in Asia (east Asia and
India) and Oceania, there is an
al. 2009
Updating Phylogeny of Mitochondrial DNA Macrohaplogroup M in India: Dispersal of Modern Human in South Asian Corridor
What you posted is misinformation and your own convoluted lies. Haplogroups M and N have Eurasian origins and are only found in Africa due to Migrations by Eurasians.

"The history of southern Africa involved interactions between indigenous hunter gatherers and a range of populations that moved into the region. Here we use genome wide spread genetic data to show that there are at least two admixture events in the history of Khoisan populations (southern Africa hunter gatherers and pastoralists who speak non Bantu languages with click consonants). One involved populations related to Congo speaking African populations, and the other introduced ancestry mostly closely related to Western Eurasian (European and Middle Eastern) populations.... A similar signal of west Eurasian ancestry is present throughout eastern Africa." ~ Ancient West Eurasian ancestry in Southern and Eastern Africa
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#2356 May 7, 2014
Almoravid wrote:
A old study, and a but controversial IMHO.
The coding regions transitions are likely to change relatively slower than those of hypervariable segments, and hence, likely to remain intact within a clade. To assist in determining which clade to place a monophyletic unit, key coding region transitions have to be identified. In the case of M1, we were told:
We found 489C (Table 3) in all Indian and eastern-African haplogroup M mtDNAs analysed, but not in the non-M haplogroup controls, including 20 Africans representing all African main lineages (6 L1, 4 L2, 10 L3) and 11 Asians.
These findings, and the lack of positive evidence (given the RFLP status) that the 10400 C->T transition defining M has happened more than once, suggest that it has a single common origin, but do not resolve its geographic origin. Analysis of position 10873 (the MnlI RFLP) revealed that all the M molecules (eastern African, Asian and those sporadically found in our population surveys) were 10873C (Table 3). As for the non-M mtDNAs, the ancient L1 and the L2 African-specific lineages5, as well as most L3 African mtDNAs, also carry 10873C.
, which is also present in four primate (common and pygmy chimps, gorilla and orangutan) mtDNA sequences.
— Semino et al.
LOL Yip just goes to show we all came from a hairy gorilla!
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#2357 May 7, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Hate to tell you this, but the only Homo-Sapien-Sapien found outside Africa is CROMAGNON! Absolute FACT!
How many times do I have to tell you that the cro magnon proto is within Africa.

I know you're slow, but this is absurd. See, you cannot show the reverse of distributions into Africa during the Paleolithic epiPaleolithic, Holocene, Mesolithic, Neolithic. Because it did not happen. Small groups went out, and that's the reality you have to live and deal with.
Marking off my posts won't change it. And it's also amusing you couldn't repsond to my question on those remains.

Quote:
Migrations into India “did occur, but rarely from western Eurasian populations.” There are low frequencies of the western Eurasian mtDNA types in both southern and northern India. Thus, the ‘caucasoid’ features of south Asians may best be considered ‘pre-caucasoid’— that is, part of a diverse north or north-east African gene pool that yielded separate origins for western Eurasian and southern Asian populations over 50,000 years ago.
--U.S. biological anthropologist Todd R. Disotell.

Quote:
At about 40,000 years ago, however, Homo sapiens, in the form of the Cro-Magnons, began trickling into Europe, probably from an initially African place of origin.

Bone tools of the kind introduced much later to Europe by the Cro-Magnons, are found at the Congolese site of Katanda, dated to perhaps 80,000 years ago.

http://www.metmuseum.org/en/exhibitions/listi...

Quote:
The discovery will help better define northern Africa's possible role in first populating southern Europe.
[...]
The makers of these assemblages can therefore be seen as (1) a
group of Homo sapiens predating and/or contemporary to
the out-of-Africa exodus of the species, and (2) geographically one of the (if not the) closest from the main gate to Eurasia at the northeastern corner of the African continent.

Although Moroccan specimens have been discovered far
away from this area, they may provide us with one of the
best proxies of the African groups that expanded into Eurasia[...]
--J.-J. Hublin, Dental Evidence from the Aterian Human Populations of Morocco
http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~bioanth/tanya_smi...

Btw,

quote:
Our results reveal that Berber speakers have a foundational biogeographic root in Africa and that deep African lineages have continued to evolve in supra-Saharan Africa.
--Frigi et al.

Phylogenetic tree:

E-M215 >E-M35 >E-M28>E-M183 >E-M81

“Try harder :)”

Level 8

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#2358 May 7, 2014
Knowledge wrote:
<quoted text>
Dimwit, Haplogroups M, N and U are Eurasian, they arose in Eurasia and show back migrations into Africa from Eurasia.
Who said M and N are not Eurasian? They are Eurasian. Y-DNA E is African, but E-V13 is Eurasian just like M1 is now African.
Knowledge wrote:
"The history of southern Africa involved interactions between indigenous hunter gatherers and a range of populations that moved into the region. Here we use genome wide spread genetic data to show that there are at least two admixture events in the history of Khoisan populations (southern Africa hunter gatherers and pastoralists who speak non Bantu languages with click consonants). One involved populations related to Congo speaking African populations, and the other introduced ancestry mostly closely related to Western Eurasian (European and Middle Eastern) populations.... A similar signal of west Eurasian ancestry is present throughout eastern Africa." ~ Ancient West Eurasian ancestry in Southern and Eastern Africa
Aye...You claim that Almoravid is misinterpreting studies, but here you cherry pick and post this study out of context all to fit your agenda. You deleted some stuff from this abstract.

Anyways here's the FULL study:

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/01/29/...

"The history of southern Africa involved interactions between indigenous hunter–gatherers and a range of populations that moved into the region. Here we use genome-wide genetic data to show that there are at least two admixture events in the history of Khoisan populations (southern African hunter–gatherers and pastoralists who speak non-Bantu languages with click consonants). One involved populations related to N__er–Congo-speaking African populations, and the other introduced ancestry most closely related to west Eurasian (European or Middle Eastern) populations. WE DATE THIS LATTER admixture event TO &#8764;900–1,800 y ago and show that it had the largest demographic impact in Khoisan populations that speak Khoe–Kwadi languages. A similar signal of west Eurasian ancestry is present throughout eastern Africa. In particular, we also find evidence for two admixture events in the history of Kenyan, Tanzanian, and Ethiopian populations, THE EARLIER of which involved populations related to west Eurasians and which WE DATE to &#8764;2,700–3,300 y ago. We reconstruct the allele frequencies of the putative west Eurasian population in eastern Africa and show that this population is a good proxy for the west Eurasian ancestry in southern Africa. The most parsimonious explanation for these findings is that west Eurasian ancestry entered southern Africa INDIRECTLY THROUGH EASTERN AFRICA."

All it says here is that east Africans have admixture from 2700-3300 yrs ago, that doesn't mean that east Africans have a mixed origin's, but it means that east Africans have had some admixture that's not significant to change the populations culture or phenotype. It merely means slight interaction...

Also it states that Southern Africans only gotten slight Eurasian ancestry not from Eurasians themselves but from migrating East African's.

Shame on you. Almoravid. Ignore this clown.
elbee

United States

#2359 May 7, 2014
what does histry gottin to do with racism

Level 1

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#2360 May 7, 2014
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
How am I going to post something that doesn't exist?
U6 is local to Africa and doesn't match European U nor does it match Middle Eastern U.
What part did you not understand?
And it practically makes sense, since the phylogenetic tree shows a direct African linages.
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/3/75...
I already posted the recent studies on U6. M and N being local to Africa. East Africa, as they progressively migrated out of Africa and to the Northern part of Africa.
Therefor they show similar, yet not the same genes. That's why!
You are the one not understanding... or more likely simply lying, boy.

Right, what I'm asking for doesn't exist: a Maghreb site with no Eurasian DNA. Because they all have Eurasian DNA going back 30k yrs! LOL!!!

No, lying dropout, U is Eurasian. Look up an mtDNA haplotype chart. Eurasian. Offspring of N. Dumbass.

And so, racist loser, again you lose, because every Maghreb site has Eurasian DNA back to 30k bp.

You LOSE, loser! End of story.

Maghreb: PROVEN predominantly Eurasian for 30k years.

Level 1

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#2361 May 7, 2014
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
How many times do I have to tell you that the cro magnon proto is within Africa.
I know you're slow, but this is absurd. See, you cannot show the reverse of distributions into Africa during the Paleolithic epiPaleolithic, Holocene, Mesolithic, Neolithic. Because it did not happen. Small groups went out, and that's the reality you have to live and deal with.
Marking off my posts won't change it. And it's also amusing you couldn't repsond to my question on those remains.
Quote:
Migrations into India “did occur, but rarely from western Eurasian populations.” There are low frequencies of the western Eurasian mtDNA types in both southern and northern India. Thus, the ‘caucasoid’ features of south Asians may best be considered ‘pre-caucasoid’— that is, part of a diverse north or north-east African gene pool that yielded separate origins for western Eurasian and southern Asian populations over 50,000 years ago.
--U.S. biological anthropologist Todd R. Disotell.
Quote:
At about 40,000 years ago, however, Homo sapiens, in the form of the Cro-Magnons, began trickling into Europe, probably from an initially African place of origin.
Bone tools of the kind introduced much later to Europe by the Cro-Magnons, are found at the Congolese site of Katanda, dated to perhaps 80,000 years ago.
http://www.metmuseum.org/en/exhibitions/listi...
Quote:
The discovery will help better define northern Africa's possible role in first populating southern Europe.
[...]
The makers of these assemblages can therefore be seen as (1) a
group of Homo sapiens predating and/or contemporary to
the out-of-Africa exodus of the species, and (2) geographically one of the (if not the) closest from the main gate to Eurasia at the northeastern corner of the African continent.
Although Moroccan specimens have been discovered far
away from this area, they may provide us with one of the
best proxies of the African groups that expanded into Eurasia[...]
--J.-J. Hublin, Dental Evidence from the Aterian Human Populations of Morocco
http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~bioanth/tanya_smi...
Btw,
quote:
Our results reveal that Berber speakers have a foundational biogeographic root in Africa and that deep African lineages have continued to evolve in supra-Saharan Africa.
--Frigi et al.
Phylogenetic tree:
E-M215 >E-M35 >E-M28>E-M183 >E-M81
You afrosupremacist racist lowlife just lie and lie...

All those Eurasian types are really African, eh? Nope. Wrong again, liar.

The migrations into India were from the Mideast. Eurasians.

Proto-”Caucasoids”= Eurasians, not Africans.

Proto-Cro-Magnon = Eurasians

Cro-Magnon were sister clade to Mideastern J. Not from Africa.“initially” African, lol... yeah, OOA!!!

Your BS better defines the lengths to which you'll go to attempt to sustain your unsupportable and bogus racist arguments.

Maghreb: predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years. PROVEN.
trollslayer

Midlothian, IL

#2362 May 7, 2014
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
You are simply too dumb to be taken seriously.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/mendeley-pdf-previews...
http://s.ngm.com/2008/09/green-sahara/img/ske...
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_liw2r47j1w1...
quote:
E1b1b1b (E-M81) is the most common Y chromosome haplogroup in the Maghreb,
dominated by its sub-clade E-M183. It is thought to have originated in the area of North Africa 5,600 years ago
--Cruciani et al. 2004, Arredi et al.(2004)
quote:
"it seems that Y-chromosome markers have an eastern African origin with an ancient local evolution in North Africa."
--Frigi et al.(2010), Biocultural Emergence of the Amazigh in Africa:
quote:
Further similarities with other Saharan regions are evident in the rock art recorded in the study area, although local stylistic developments are also apparent. Carvings of wild fauna at the site of Sluguilla resemble the Tazina style found in Algeria, Libya and Morocco (Pichler and Rodrigue, 2003), although examples of elephant and rhinoceros in a naturalistic style reminiscent of engravings from the central Sahara believed to date from the early Holocene are also present.
--Nick Brooks et al.(2004)
The prehistory of Western Sahara in a regional context: the archaeology of the "free zone"
quote:
Craniometric data from seven human groups (Tables 3, 4) were subjected to principal components analysis, which allies the early Holocene population at Gobero (Gob-e) with mid-Holocene “Mechtoids” from Mali and Mauritania [18],[26],[27] and with Late Pleistocene Iberomaurusians and early Holocene Capsians from across the Maghreb (see cluster in Figure 6). The striking similarity between these seven human populations confirms previous suggestions regarding their affinity [18] and is particularly significant given their temporal range (Late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene) and trans-Saharan geographic distribution (across the Maghreb to the southern Sahara).
quote:
Trans-Saharan craniometry. Principal components analysis of craniometric variables closely allies the early Holocene occupants at Gobero, who were buried with Kiffian material culture, with Late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene humans from the Maghreb and southern Sahara referred to as Iberomaurusians, Capsians and “Mechtoids.” Outliers to this cluster of populations include an older Aterian sample and the mid-Holocene occupants at Gobero associated with Tenerean material culture.
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F1...
good work, great attribution
trollslayer

Midlothian, IL

#2363 May 7, 2014
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
How many times do I have to tell you that the cro magnon proto is within Africa.
I know you're slow, but this is absurd. See, you cannot show the reverse of distributions into Africa during the Paleolithic epiPaleolithic, Holocene, Mesolithic, Neolithic. Because it did not happen. Small groups went out, and that's the reality you have to live and deal with.
Marking off my posts won't change it. And it's also amusing you couldn't repsond to my question on those remains.
Quote:
Migrations into India “did occur, but rarely from western Eurasian populations.” There are low frequencies of the western Eurasian mtDNA types in both southern and northern India. Thus, the ‘caucasoid’ features of south Asians may best be considered ‘pre-caucasoid’— that is, part of a diverse north or north-east African gene pool that yielded separate origins for western Eurasian and southern Asian populations over 50,000 years ago.
--U.S. biological anthropologist Todd R. Disotell.
Quote:
At about 40,000 years ago, however, Homo sapiens, in the form of the Cro-Magnons, began trickling into Europe, probably from an initially African place of origin.
Bone tools of the kind introduced much later to Europe by the Cro-Magnons, are found at the Congolese site of Katanda, dated to perhaps 80,000 years ago.
http://www.metmuseum.org/en/exhibitions/listi ...
Quote:
The discovery will help better define northern Africa's possible role in first populating southern Europe.
[...]
The makers of these assemblages can therefore be seen as (1) a
group of Homo sapiens predating and/or contemporary to
the out-of-Africa exodus of the species, and (2) geographically one of the (if not the) closest from the main gate to Eurasia at the northeastern corner of the African continent.
Although Moroccan specimens have been discovered far
away from this area, they may provide us with one of the
best proxies of the African groups that expanded into Eurasia[...]
--J.-J. Hublin, Dental Evidence from the Aterian Human Populations of Morocco
http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~bioanth/tanya_smi ...
Btw,
quote:
Our results reveal that Berber speakers have a foundational biogeographic root in Africa and that deep African lineages have continued to evolve in supra-Saharan Africa.
--Frigi et al.
Phylogenetic tree:
E-M215 >E-M35 >E-M28>E-M183 >E-M81
Insect Trust wrote:
<quoted text>
You afrosupremacist racist lowlife just lie and lie...
All those Eurasian types are really African, eh? Nope. Wrong again, liar.
The migrations into India were from the Mideast. Eurasians.
Proto-”Caucasoids”= Eurasians, not Africans.
Proto-Cro-Magnon = Eurasians
Cro-Magnon were sister clade to Mideastern J. Not from Africa.“initially” African, lol... yeah, OOA!!!
Your BS better defines the lengths to which you'll go to attempt to sustain your unsupportable and bogus racist arguments.
Maghreb: predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years. PROVEN.
'barros'

YOU are a HORRIFIC TROLL. I'll dare you make disparaging remarks abiut
Almoravid. He has provided us with exemplary attribution and sources. You still provide nothing but racist trollism.
trollslayer

Munster, IN

#2364 May 7, 2014
Please note troll behavioral patterns. They cry for sources. Give them
empirical data and INSTEAD of discussing the data, they digress into a
childish, trollish, name-calling mode. Decent, source-producing, posters
WIN......trolls LOSE. Same "movie" every time. Here's a invitation to you
Almoravid ...feel free to share your data in my thread anytime.

trolls are not allowed here.
http://www.google.com/url...
elbee

United States

#2365 May 7, 2014
we can be here ague on this topic wothout finding a solution to it. our histry books, culture, our religion, educations and others have been manipulated what are we going to do with it . now every where in the world africa have been seen very poor. are we going to continue with this shame. At least we can start to do something on our own, how are we going to build our own car, plane,motor and other on our own , that is the ways out of our shame if not we will always come here and talk without any solution. think of it
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#2366 May 7, 2014
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
How many times do I have to tell you that the cro magnon proto is within Africa.
I know you're slow, but this is absurd. See, you cannot show the reverse of distributions into Africa during the Paleolithic epiPaleolithic, Holocene, Mesolithic, Neolithic. Because it did not happen. Small groups went out, and that's the reality you have to live and deal with.
Marking off my posts won't change it. And it's also amusing you couldn't repsond to my question on those remains.
Quote:
Migrations into India “did occur, but rarely from western Eurasian populations.” There are low frequencies of the western Eurasian mtDNA types in both southern and northern India. Thus, the ‘caucasoid’ features of south Asians may best be considered ‘pre-caucasoid’— that is, part of a diverse north or north-east African gene pool that yielded separate origins for western Eurasian and southern Asian populations over 50,000 years ago.
--U.S. biological anthropologist Todd R. Disotell.
Quote:
At about 40,000 years ago, however, Homo sapiens, in the form of the Cro-Magnons, began trickling into Europe, probably from an initially African place of origin.
Bone tools of the kind introduced much later to Europe by the Cro-Magnons, are found at the Congolese site of Katanda, dated to perhaps 80,000 years ago.
http://www.metmuseum.org/en/exhibitions/listi...
Quote:
The discovery will help better define northern Africa's possible role in first populating southern Europe.
[...]
The makers of these assemblages can therefore be seen as (1) a
group of Homo sapiens predating and/or contemporary to
the out-of-Africa exodus of the species, and (2) geographically one of the (if not the) closest from the main gate to Eurasia at the northeastern corner of the African continent.
Although Moroccan specimens have been discovered far
away from this area, they may provide us with one of the
best proxies of the African groups that expanded into Eurasia[...]
--J.-J. Hublin, Dental Evidence from the Aterian Human Populations of Morocco
http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~bioanth/tanya_smi...
Btw,
quote:
Our results reveal that Berber speakers have a foundational biogeographic root in Africa and that deep African lineages have continued to evolve in supra-Saharan Africa.
--Frigi et al.
Phylogenetic tree:
E-M215 >E-M35 >E-M28>E-M183 >E-M81
UM....
ATERIANS WERE HOMINIDS NOT MODERN HUMANS!!!!
THERE ARE NO CROMAGNON SKELETONS FOUND IN SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA!!!! Prove me wrong??????????CROMAGNON IS A WHITE BOY!!!!!!!!!!
Read very slowly:
www.racialreality.blogspot.com/2011/02/cro-ma...
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#2367 May 7, 2014
No matter how these idiot Afronazis argue that facts are the MAJORITY of Maghreb people look nothing like black Africans and carry HAPLOGROUPS THAT ORIGINATED IN THE MIDDLE EAST! E-M81 ORIGINATED from the very MIDDLE EASTERN HAPLOGROUP E-M35, which goes back thousands of years! They have VERY LITTLE AFRICAN DNA as this map shows:

www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogrou...

MAJORITY OF MOROCCANS LOOK LIKE ITALIANS:
www.moroccoworldnews.com/2013/12/116775/socce...
Anonymous

Thurmont, MD

#2368 May 8, 2014
I stumbled upon this site, but what I'm really "tripping" on is the manner in which people are addressing one another. Such absolute rudeness and name calling, the mud slinging and bitterness is so sad. The intellectual debate and presentation of facts, however biased or correct, are outweighed and nearly discredited by the lack of common human decency. Regardless of ethnicity or viewpoint, we are all human and should keep that in mind.
ATLAlains

France

#2369 May 8, 2014
ALL BLCK children should tell their yt schools about thisLOL

Please keep teaching your children that Blcks did this. They will do better in school I promise LOLOL

:] So proud, sure they ruled over Europe and Arabia and in fact the world!! PLEASE keep teaching your kids this. IT IS THE MOST USEFUL truth there is and in no way shape or form could they EVER learn that racist math system they put into those schools.

;]
trollslayer

Hammond, IN

#2370 May 11, 2014
Anonymous wrote:
I stumbled upon this site, but what I'm really "tripping" on is the manner in which people are addressing one another. Such absolute rudeness and name calling, the mud slinging and bitterness is so sad. The intellectual debate and presentation of facts, however biased or correct, are outweighed and nearly discredited by the lack of common human decency. Regardless of ethnicity or viewpoint, we are all human and should keep that in mind.
welcome to the world of trolls. No it's trolls who do not want "The intellectual debate and presentation of facts, however biased or correct,"
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#2371 May 11, 2014
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
This is exactly the problem. Kefi did not include all remains. And had no nuclear resolutions in her study.
This is what I am show you and your friends. And this is what you'll tend to ignore.
And this is the paternal flow: E-M215 >E-M35 >E-M28>E-M183 >E-M81
Archeology is also clear about it, in crania and post crania.
Many industries prove and provide evidence that the proto-Tamazight originated at the South, East Africa.
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.ac...
quote:
Figure 6. Principal components analysis of craniofacial dimensions among Late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene populations from the Maghreb and southern Sahara.
Plot of first two principal components extracted from a mean matrix for 17 craniometric variables (Tables 4, 7) in 9 human populations (Table 3) from the Late Pleistocene through the mid-Holocene from the Maghreb and southern Sahara. Seven trans-Saharan populations cluster together, whereas Late Pleistocene Aterians (Ater) and the mid-Holocene population at Gobero (Gob-m) are striking outliers. Axes are scaled by the square root of the corresponding eigenvalue for the principal component. Abbreviations: Ater, Aterian; EMC, eastern Maghreb Capsian; EMI, eastern Maghreb Iberomaurusian; Gob-e, Gobero early Holocene; Gob-m, Gobero mid-Holocene; Mali, Hassi-el-Abiod, Mali; Maur, Mauritania; WMC, western Maghreb Capsian; WMI, western Maghreb Iberomaurusian.
--(doi:10.1371/journal.pone.00 02995.g006)
quote:
Craniometric data from seven human groups (Tables 3, 4) were subjected to principal components analysis, which allies the early Holocene population at Gobero (Gob-e) with mid-Holocene “Mechtoids” from Mali and Mauritania [18],[26],[27] and with Late Pleistocene Iberomaurusians and early Holocene Capsians from across the Maghreb (see cluster in Figure 6). The striking similarity between these seven human populations confirms previous suggestions regarding their affinity [18] and is particularly significant given their temporal range (Late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene) and trans-Saharan geographic distribution (across the Maghreb to the southern Sahara).
quote:
Trans-Saharan craniometry. Principal components analysis of craniometric variables closely allies the early Holocene occupants at Gobero, who were buried with Kiffian material culture, with Late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene humans from the Maghreb and southern Sahara referred to as Iberomaurusians, Capsians and “Mechtoids.” Outliers to this cluster of populations include an older Aterian sample and the mid-Holocene occupants at Gobero associated with Tenerean material culture.
--Paul C. Sereno
Lakeside Cemeteries in the Sahara: 5000 Years of Holocene Population and Environmental Change
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F1...
THE EARLIEST MODERN MAN IN NORTH AFRICA WAS A CROMAGNON:
www.sciencephoto.com/media/481366/view
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#2372 May 11, 2014
ATLAlains wrote:
ALL BLCK children should tell their yt schools about thisLOL
Please keep teaching your children that Blcks did this. They will do better in school I promise LOLOL
:] So proud, sure they ruled over Europe and Arabia and in fact the world!! PLEASE keep teaching your kids this. IT IS THE MOST USEFUL truth there is and in no way shape or form could they EVER learn that racist math system they put into those schools.
;]
Lying to kids is not going to improve their education. All that it is going to do is make fools out of them. In Asia they dont lie to their kids, they install a culture of learning! They make it cool to get high marks at school. Thats why Asians do so well!
trollslayer

Hammond, IN

#2373 May 11, 2014
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
This is exactly the problem. Kefi did not include all remains. And had no nuclear resolutions in her study.
This is what I am show you and your friends. And this is what you'll tend to ignore.
And this is the paternal flow: E-M215 >E-M35 >E-M28>E-M183 >E-M81
Archeology is also clear about it, in crania and post crania.
Many industries prove and provide evidence that the proto-Tamazight originated at the South, East Africa.
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.ac...
quote:
Figure 6. Principal components analysis of craniofacial dimensions among Late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene populations from the Maghreb and southern Sahara.
Plot of first two principal components extracted from a mean matrix for 17 craniometric variables (Tables 4, 7) in 9 human populations (Table 3) from the Late Pleistocene through the mid-Holocene from the Maghreb and southern Sahara. Seven trans-Saharan populations cluster together, whereas Late Pleistocene Aterians (Ater) and the mid-Holocene population at Gobero (Gob-m) are striking outliers. Axes are scaled by the square root of the corresponding eigenvalue for the principal component. Abbreviations: Ater, Aterian; EMC, eastern Maghreb Capsian; EMI, eastern Maghreb Iberomaurusian; Gob-e, Gobero early Holocene; Gob-m, Gobero mid-Holocene; Mali, Hassi-el-Abiod, Mali; Maur, Mauritania; WMC, western Maghreb Capsian; WMI, western Maghreb Iberomaurusian.
--(doi:10.1371/journal.pone.00 02995.g006)
quote:
Craniometric data from seven human groups (Tables 3, 4) were subjected to principal components analysis, which allies the early Holocene population at Gobero (Gob-e) with mid-Holocene “Mechtoids” from Mali and Mauritania [18],[26],[27] and with Late Pleistocene Iberomaurusians and early Holocene Capsians from across the Maghreb (see cluster in Figure 6). The striking similarity between these seven human populations confirms previous suggestions regarding their affinity [18] and is particularly significant given their temporal range (Late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene) and trans-Saharan geographic distribution (across the Maghreb to the southern Sahara).
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Trans-Saharan craniometry. Principal components analysis of craniometric variables closely allies the early Holocene occupants at Gobero, who were buried with Kiffian material culture, with Late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene humans from the Maghreb and southern Sahara referred to as Iberomaurusians, Capsians and “Mechtoids.” Outliers to this cluster of populations include an older Aterian sample and the mid-Holocene occupants at Gobero associated with Tenerean material culture.
--Paul C. Sereno
Lakeside Cemeteries in the Sahara: 5000 Years of Holocene Population and Environmental Change
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F1...
for the record this pic is total, recreated garbage done somewhere in France at a studio.

http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/481366/enla...

That pic should probably be one if a African person.

Here's another French person producing fake art. You can't trust some of them.

scroll down to :
Some of the rock art faked by Henri Lhote

http://www.google.com/url...
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#2374 May 11, 2014
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
for the record this pic is total, recreated garbage done somewhere in France at a studio.
http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/481366/enla...
That pic should probably be one if a African person.
Here's another French person producing fake art. You can't trust some of them.
scroll down to :
Some of the rock art faked by Henri Lhote
http://www.google.com/url...
YOU JUST CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!! Poor old thing!

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