What’s wrong with a GED?
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Gaia

Silver Spring, MD

#1 Sep 25, 2010
You people talk down on it like it’s a bad thing.

Having one doesn’t make you any less intelligent than a person who has a High School Diploma. The only difference between the two is that one takes a shorter amount of time than the other. The person also must be over the age of sixteen, has been out of high school for a certain amount of months, have not received their HSD, and must meet other state requirements.

The reason why I left high school was because of my own personal reasons. The school was horrible, the teachers were [email protected], and the bullying problem there seemed to escalate.

Now that I’m in a GED program not only am I learning more, but have the highest scores in my class.

It's nice and actually less stressful. The teachers motivate you to learn and we go on field trips.

So why is it put down so much? I would like to believe that at least people are attempting to make something of themselves instead of doing God knows what.
JTF

Saint Albans, NY

#2 Sep 25, 2010
Gaia wrote:
You people talk down on it like it’s a bad thing.
Having one doesn’t make you any less intelligent than a person who has a High School Diploma. The only difference between the two is that one takes a shorter amount of time than the other. The person also must be over the age of sixteen, has been out of high school for a certain amount of months, have not received their HSD, and must meet other state requirements.
The reason why I left high school was because of my own personal reasons. The school was horrible, the teachers were [email protected], and the bullying problem there seemed to escalate.
Now that I’m in a GED program not only am I learning more, but have the highest scores in my class.
It's nice and actually less stressful. The teachers motivate you to learn and we go on field trips.
So why is it put down so much? I would like to believe that at least people are attempting to make something of themselves instead of doing God knows what.
While I wouldn't put down anyone who got a GED because it shows that they are taking some initiative in the direction they want their life to take, I don't think it is comparable with a High School Dimploma, if for nothing else than it condenses 4 years of academic work into a few hours of studying (be it day, weeks or months). I don't see how you could possibly get all the information taught in 4 years in that short of time. Many things are bound to be glossed over.

I definitely don't think a person who has GED is any less intelligent than someone who graduated with a HSD. That's ridiculous. As you pointed out, there are many reasons why a person would opt to go that route instead of finishing the traditional four years. Many GED recipients go onto college and universities, which is where they will even out. I know someone who has a MSW and started out with a GED. However, if there are no extenuating circumstances, like bullying, needing a smaller setting, short attention span, you absorb information differently or at a different pace, etc... I will always recommend an HSD first.
Gaia

Silver Spring, MD

#3 Sep 25, 2010
JTF wrote:
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While I wouldn't put down anyone who got a GED because it shows that they are taking some initiative in the direction they want their life to take, I don't think it is comparable with a High School Dimploma, if for nothing else than it condenses 4 years of academic work into a few hours of studying (be it day, weeks or months). I don't see how you could possibly get all the information taught in 4 years in that short of time. Many things are bound to be glossed over.
I definitely don't think a person who has GED is any less intelligent than someone who graduated with a HSD. That's ridiculous. As you pointed out, there are many reasons why a person would opt to go that route instead of finishing the traditional four years. Many GED recipients go onto college and universities, which is where they will even out. I know someone who has a MSW and started out with a GED. However, if there are no extenuating circumstances, like bullying, needing a smaller setting, short attention span, you absorb information differently or at a different pace, etc... I will always recommend an HSD first.
Four years of high school doesn't necessarily mean you learn more. I know of people who've graduated high school and are dumb as dirt. How they passed is beyond my comprehension. I learned more things in four hours than I did in eight during high school.
JTF

Saint Albans, NY

#4 Sep 25, 2010
Eight??

Since: May 10

UK

#5 Sep 25, 2010
What is a GED?
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#6 Sep 25, 2010
Gaia wrote:
You people talk down on it like it’s a bad thing.
Having one doesn’t make you any less intelligent than a person who has a High School Diploma. The only difference between the two is that one takes a shorter amount of time than the other. The person also must be over the age of sixteen, has been out of high school for a certain amount of months, have not received their HSD, and must meet other state requirements.
The reason why I left high school was because of my own personal reasons. The school was horrible, the teachers were [email protected], and the bullying problem there seemed to escalate.
Now that I’m in a GED program not only am I learning more, but have the highest scores in my class.
It's nice and actually less stressful. The teachers motivate you to learn and we go on field trips.
So why is it put down so much? I would like to believe that at least people are attempting to make something of themselves instead of doing God knows what.
EVERYONE goes through some degree of bullying or unfortunate circumstance in highschool, and most people make it out with a diploma. I'm sorry you had a difficult time at your school, however a GED symbolizes a second class effort to complete the most BASIC academic requirements before college or trade school. Even immigrants who speak English as a second language can come here and complete the requirements for a high school diploma. The reason the GED takes a shorter amount of time, is because the effort needed to get it is SHORT. Were you able to complete a SAT with just a GED? Can you recall any scores if you took the SAT? Colleges and universities look at these things when they consider admissions. I'm not minimizing your accomplishment, but I am putting into contrast a GED and the high school diploma.

The latter is FAR more respected and should be.

“I live in my own little world”

Level 8

Since: Mar 10

But it's ok, they know me here

#8 Sep 25, 2010
selina london wrote:
What is a GED?
It's a General Equivalency Diploma. An option given to students age 16 and over who are not doing well or adjusting well in a traditional High School Setting. You study various subjects (English, Math, Science, Social Study and I am not sure what else) for a length of time and then you sit for an exam which takes a few hours and I think it's done in two parts ( I may be wrong, that could be another exam I'm thinking of). If you pass, you earn a GED, which is not a High School Diploma but equivalent to one. You can move on from the point to a trade school, college/university or just work.
Gaia

Silver Spring, MD

#9 Sep 25, 2010
JTF wrote:
Eight??
Yes, when I was in high we went for eight hours.
JTF

Saint Albans, NY

#10 Sep 25, 2010
Gaia wrote:
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Yes, when I was in high we went for eight hours.
I'm sorry, I misread that, which led to my misunderstanding what you were saying. I thought you meant instead of completing it in 4 years it was taking you eight.
JTF

Saint Albans, NY

#11 Sep 25, 2010
Gaia wrote:
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Four years of high school doesn't necessarily mean you learn more. I know of people who've graduated high school and are dumb as dirt. How they passed is beyond my comprehension. I learned more things in four hours than I did in eight during high school.
There are people who have a GED and are as dumb as dirt. Just because you know someone who has a HSD's and who you consider stupid doesn't mean that, on average more information isn't covered over a 4 year period in high school than in studying for a GED.

“No Substitute For The Truth”

Level 8

Since: Jan 10

Orlando, FL

#12 Sep 25, 2010
Gaia wrote:
You people talk down on it like it’s a bad thing.
Having one doesn’t make you any less intelligent than a person who has a High School Diploma. The only difference between the two is that one takes a shorter amount of time than the other. The person also must be over the age of sixteen, has been out of high school for a certain amount of months, have not received their HSD, and must meet other state requirements.
The reason why I left high school was because of my own personal reasons. The school was horrible, the teachers were [email protected], and the bullying problem there seemed to escalate.
Now that I’m in a GED program not only am I learning more, but have the highest scores in my class.
It's nice and actually less stressful. The teachers motivate you to learn and we go on field trips.
So why is it put down so much? I would like to believe that at least people are attempting to make something of themselves instead of doing God knows what.
Nah there is nothing wrong with a GED at all. I think people focus on the GED instead of the self motivation within' the person. I know several people who have GED's and they always admit how they didn't take education seriously during their youth. Yeah that is really the difference and also why many do not graduate either. A lack of interest.

Since: Sep 10

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#13 Sep 25, 2010
Nothing is wrong with a GED 95% of colleges and most employers accpet the GED as equal to a HSD.So unless you want to work some fancy career or attend Princeton or Yale..
( btw Most if not ALL of your HS grad friends couldn't get into those schools if they tried and will end up making less that 40k a year anyways)

I wouldn't worry about having a G.E.D. Just use it as a stepping stone to get into college or to get into a job that requires either a HSD or a GED

If people talk trash they're just jealous it took them 4 years to do what you did in 8 hours of testing.
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#14 Sep 25, 2010
Joe sybian wrote:
Nothing is wrong with a GED 95% of colleges and most employers accpet the GED as equal to a HSD.So unless you want to work some fancy career or attend Princeton or Yale..
( btw Most if not ALL of your HS grad friends couldn't get into those schools if they tried and will end up making less that 40k a year anyways)
I wouldn't worry about having a G.E.D. Just use it as a stepping stone to get into college or to get into a job that requires either a HSD or a GED
If people talk trash they're just jealous it took them 4 years to do what you did in 8 hours of testing.
Not really.

If that were the case then there wouldn't be so much attention focused on the funding of schools. Everyone would just earn the requirements in 8 hours. Whether you like it or not, a H.S. diploma is the way to go. It shows you were willing and able to put in the time required to finish the job that most EVERYONE else has finished.

Since: Sep 10

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#15 Sep 25, 2010
JTF wrote:
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There are people who have a GED and are as dumb as dirt. Just because you know someone who has a HSD's and who you consider stupid doesn't mean that, on average more information isn't covered over a 4 year period in high school than in studying for a GED.
I think %30 of graduating seniors fail the GED test and the majority of the %70 who pass,pass with an only a 500 on each test.Only something like 1% gets every question right.

What I am saying is even the graduating high school students do not do well on the GED. And they've had 4 years of study.

You can look all of this up for yourself.

Since: May 10

UK

#16 Sep 25, 2010
theeyeshaveit wrote:
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It's a General Equivalency Diploma. An option given to students age 16 and over who are not doing well or adjusting well in a traditional High School Setting. You study various subjects (English, Math, Science, Social Study and I am not sure what else) for a length of time and then you sit for an exam which takes a few hours and I think it's done in two parts ( I may be wrong, that could be another exam I'm thinking of). If you pass, you earn a GED, which is not a High School Diploma but equivalent to one. You can move on from the point to a trade school, college/university or just work.
Thank you.
Gaia

Silver Spring, MD

#17 Sep 25, 2010
KIP wrote:
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EVERYONE goes through some degree of bullying or unfortunate circumstance in highschool, and most people make it out with a diploma. I'm sorry you had a difficult time at your school, however a GED symbolizes a second class effort to complete the most BASIC academic requirements before college or trade school. Even immigrants who speak English as a second language can come here and complete the requirements for a high school diploma. The reason the GED takes a shorter amount of time, is because the effort needed to get it is SHORT. Were you able to complete a SAT with just a GED? Can you recall any scores if you took the SAT? Colleges and universities look at these things when they consider admissions. I'm not minimizing your accomplishment, but I am putting into contrast a GED and the high school diploma.
The latter is FAR more respected and should be.
KIP wrote:
However a GED symbolizes a second class effort to complete the most BASIC academic requirements before college or trade school.
Which is only an opinion; a silly one at that.
KIP wrote:
Even immigrants who speak English as a second language can come here and complete the requirements for a high school diploma.
Actually, most states take you through a lot of requirements in order for you to achieve such a thing. I had to show them my state issued ID, school transfers and a signature from the principle stating I’ve been out of school for a number of months, and information showing that I’m a legal citizen of the United States and the District of Columbia.
KIP wrote:
The reason the GED takes a shorter amount of time, is because the effort needed to get it is SHORT. Were you able to complete a SAT with just a GED? Can you recall any scores if you took the SAT?
According to the American Council on Education, the standard GED test scores range from a minimum of 200 to a maximum of 800 on each test. To pass, 60 percent is required. This means you’ll want to score at least 410 on each GED test to pass it, and achieve an overall score of 450 for the five-test battery. The GED scores for any single test can’t be less than 410, but the average of all the GED test scores must be at least 450. These means if some scores are lower than 450, other GED tests need to be well above 450 so that all five GED test scores average out to a minimum of 450.
The GED tests are standardized and normed using a national random sample of graduating high school seniors.

To pass the GED tests, a candidate must demonstrate a level of skill that meets or exceeds that demonstrated by 60 percent of graduating high school seniors. In other words, 40 percent of graduating high school seniors wouldn’t pass the GED tests.
KIP wrote:
Colleges and universities look at these things when they consider admissions.
About 90% of colleges accept people with GEDs. Looking at those numbers, that's not much to worry about.
KIP wrote:
I'm not minimizing your accomplishment, but I am putting into contrast a GED and the high school diploma.
How can you put something into contrast that you know noting about?

I made a promise to myself that I would achieve regardless of the obstacle. People like you can be very emotionally draining because I meet them every day, but just like you they put the GED in a negative light because they are well...ignorant.
Gaia

Silver Spring, MD

#18 Sep 25, 2010
theeyeshaveit wrote:
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It's a General Equivalency Diploma. An option given to students age 16 and over who are not doing well or adjusting well in a traditional High School Setting. You study various subjects (English, Math, Science, Social Study and I am not sure what else) for a length of time and then you sit for an exam which takes a few hours and I think it's done in two parts ( I may be wrong, that could be another exam I'm thinking of). If you pass, you earn a GED, which is not a High School Diploma but equivalent to one. You can move on from the point to a trade school, college/university or just work.
Actually, it’s Reading, Writing, Math, Science, History. Math has two parts and writing requires a written essay. If you fail writing, you have to retake reading as well. We had to take a pre-test before we were able to take the actual GED.

Also, the length of time is about 7 ½ hours

Since: Sep 10

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#19 Sep 25, 2010
KIP wrote:
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Not really.
If that were the case then there wouldn't be so much attention focused on the funding of schools. Everyone would just earn the requirements in 8 hours. Whether you like it or not, a H.S. diploma is the way to go. It shows you were willing and able to put in the time required to finish the job that most EVERYONE else has finished.
FACT 95% of colleges and most employers accpet the GED as equal to a high school diploma. Most job ads if they require lower level education will say " must have HSD or GED "or sometimes it's even wrote 'HDS/GED required' in adult that means the employer does not care who spent the longest learning high school curriculum.
And well 95% of colleges in the nation accpet the GED.
That what is really important.
There's a lot of attention on students staying in school because each public school student is worth thousands to uncle same and he loses the money if there is no kid in the seat. It's not what you think it is.

Since: Sep 10

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#20 Sep 25, 2010
Gaia wrote:
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Actually, it’s Reading, Writing, Math, Science, History. Math has two parts and writing requires a written essay. If you fail writing, you have to retake reading as well. We had to take a pre-test before we were able to take the actual GED.
Also, the length of time is about 7 ½ hours
You haven't even taken your test. You're in a prep class. The real test have more questions than the practice tests.
Pass the actual test then come defend the GED lol.
Gaia

Silver Spring, MD

#21 Sep 25, 2010
Joe sybian wrote:
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You haven't even taken your test. You're in a prep class. The real test have more questions than the practice tests.
Pass the actual test then come defend the GED lol.
"We had" is past tense.

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