Religious question please help!

Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Gabon

#237 Nov 9, 2012
IT's so hard to me to try to help confused peoples with the english language(that is not my colonization's language)...I try to make some efforts regardless my several faults,just because this subject is very serious.MAY GOD HELP ME.

Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Gabon

#238 Nov 9, 2012
Lucifer wrote:
<quoted text>
Those were God's commandments.
lucifer was one of the best creatures of GOD.GOD damned him because he tried to fight against HIM.That means if we try to fight against our creator and father,he will punish us too.BUT don't forget even though a father punish his child,that don't mean he doesn't love him.
Father Satan Pastafarian

Minneapolis, MN

#239 Nov 9, 2012
Sorry wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah I'm interested in what you have to say.
That's good. You have an open mind therefore not an indoctrinated sheeple. Try to be not biased, think of yourself as as just a human with no knowledge of "God" but you have logic and reason.

Ok, now to your bible, Where do you want to start? Where God condones and actually advocates Rape, genocide, slavery, mass-murder of people, human torture, racism, killing babies, pedophilia?

Where he orders his men to go rape women, rob and loot different people, take women and children as slaves?

Pick and choose and we can go straight to the source.

Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Gabon

#240 Nov 9, 2012
Father Satan Pastafarian wrote:
<quoted text>
That's good. You have an open mind therefore not an indoctrinated sheeple. Try to be not biased, think of yourself as as just a human with no knowledge of "God" but you have logic and reason.
Ok, now to your bible, Where do you want to start? Where God condones and actually advocates Rape, genocide, slavery, mass-murder of people, human torture, racism, killing babies, pedophilia?
Where he orders his men to go rape women, rob and loot different people, take women and children as slaves?
Pick and choose and we can go straight to the source.
YOU don't know that SATAN is periodically the prince of the earth? he has got all they keys and he used humans to rewrite and make twisted many part of the bible...YOU STILL SHOW ME HOW YOU DON'T know GOD;IF you would know him,you should know that he can't command such abominations.THIS world is destroyed because of SATAN and the cupidity.
Sorry

Ballston Spa, NY

#241 Nov 9, 2012
Father Satan Pastafarian wrote:
<quoted text>
That's good. You have an open mind therefore not an indoctrinated sheeple. Try to be not biased, think of yourself as as just a human with no knowledge of "God" but you have logic and reason.
Ok, now to your bible, Where do you want to start? Where God condones and actually advocates Rape, genocide, slavery, mass-murder of people, human torture, racism, killing babies, pedophilia?
Where he orders his men to go rape women, rob and loot different people, take women and children as slaves?
Pick and choose and we can go straight to the source.
WHAT????????? NO WAY!!! I can't imagine this, but start where you want!! Btw I can't find my bible, but I'll do the best I can to follow you.

Level 1

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#242 Nov 9, 2012
bourobou prince wrote:
<quoted text>believe me if he was bad,this earth would stop to exist since Millions years ago.
Funny, I thought you Xtians believe that the world is only 6000 years old.

Level 1

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#243 Nov 9, 2012
God's commandment is thou shalt not kill, yet he orders the Jews to invade the land of Canaan to slaughter the inhabitants of that land. God completely violated his own commandment.
Father Satan Pastafarian

Minneapolis, MN

#244 Nov 9, 2012
Sorry wrote:
<quoted text>WHAT????????? NO WAY!!! I can't imagine this, but start where you want!! Btw I can't find my bible, but I'll do the best I can to follow you.
Nice reaction (:, i like that. You're disgusted at the thought of it, i was too.

Don't worry, you're online so finding a bible won't be that hard. Let's just go through it and tell me what you think.

PS The Doubt of faith is not God testing you, it's truth tring to emerge from your indoctrinated mind.

Let me make it even a little funner with Memes with biblical scripture to get a visual.

Slavery, If you're AA you will know that your ancestors were enslaved, brutally raped, mistreated for 400 years because of biblical claims and by Christians who used the bible to justify it. They also forced Christianity, Jesus and the bible on your ancestors.

What did god say about slavery?

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.(Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

What do you think of that? Is this words of an all powerfu, all loving creator of the universe or greedful men who used religion for exploit?

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.(Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

Is God ordering selling you children and daughters as sex slaves morals to you?

A man can buy as many sex slaves as he wants as long as he feeds them, clothes them, and screws them!

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.(Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

Huh Beat your slave? Does this bring back memories of human suffering?

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.(Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Yeah obey jesus and your Whit Massas. that's Xtianity in a nutshell.

http://www.atheistmemebase.com/wp-content/upl...

God on slavery. comment on your opinions and then pick your next evil psychopathic things the God of the bible condones.
Father Satan Pastafarian

Minneapolis, MN

#245 Nov 9, 2012
_Lucifer_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny, I thought you Xtians believe that the world is only 6000 years old.
Lmao ignoramus Xtians. They can't explain why prehistoric humans in Germany created sex toys 22,000 years before Adam, eve and their 6000 year old earth. They an't explain why Japanese wee creating pottery 4000 earlier.
Sorry

Ballston Spa, NY

#247 Nov 9, 2012
Father Satan Pastafarian wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice reaction (:, i like that. You're disgusted at the thought of it, i was too.
Don't worry, you're online so finding a bible won't be that hard. Let's just go through it and tell me what you think.
PS The Doubt of faith is not God testing you, it's truth tring to emerge from your indoctrinated mind.
Let me make it even a little funner with Memes with biblical scripture to get a visual.
Slavery, If you're AA you will know that your ancestors were enslaved, brutally raped, mistreated for 400 years because of biblical claims and by Christians who used the bible to justify it. They also forced Christianity, Jesus and the bible on your ancestors.
What did god say about slavery?
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.(Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
What do you think of that? Is this words of an all powerfu, all loving creator of the universe or greedful men who used religion for exploit?
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.(Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
Is God ordering selling you children and daughters as sex slaves morals to you?
A man can buy as many sex slaves as he wants as long as he feeds them, clothes them, and screws them!
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.(Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
Huh Beat your slave? Does this bring back memories of human suffering?
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.(Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
Yeah obey jesus and your Whit Massas. that's Xtianity in a nutshell.
http://www.atheistmemebase.com/wp-content/upl...
God on slavery. comment on your opinions and then pick your next evil psychopathic things the God of the bible condones.
You're right this is disgusting!! I'm just starting to read the bible i'm not that far into it. So far I've read a few things that made me think. I didn't know about all of this though. I wonder how people can read this stuff, and think it's no big deal. Continue because you're starting to make sense.
Father Satan Pastafarian

Minneapolis, MN

#248 Nov 10, 2012
Sorry wrote:
<quoted text> You're right this is disgusting!! I'm just starting to read the bible i'm not that far into it. So far I've read a few things that made me think. I didn't know about all of this though. I wonder how people can read this stuff, and think it's no big deal. Continue because you're starting to make sense.
I'm hitting the sheets tonight, come back tomorrow though. Glad you have an open mind and make your own conclusions.
Mephistopheles

Jacksonville, FL

#249 Nov 10, 2012
Sorry

Ballston Spa, NY

#250 Nov 10, 2012
Father Satan Pastafarian wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm hitting the sheets tonight, come back tomorrow though. Glad you have an open mind and make your own conclusions.
Okay
Jesus -is- Muslim

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#251 Nov 10, 2012
bourobou prince wrote:
<quoted text>MUHAMMAD was meditating in the caverns when that so called GABRIEL ANGEL appeared to him.Caverns are for demons,ANGELS of GOD don't appear in such places.SATAN is intelligent this is why he passed himself for GABRIEL to use MUHAMMAD and prepare his revenge against JESUS's sacrifice.ALL GOD's prophets are ISRAELITES why is the so called last prophet being NON ISRAELITE?.FOLLOW the first of all GOD's children to be saved.
Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:

The entire vision will be to you like the words of a sealed book,
which when they give it to the one who is literate,
saying, "Please read this," he will say, "I cannot, for it is sealed."
Then the book will be given to the one who is illiterate,
saying, "Please read this." And he will say, "I cannot read."

[Isaiah 29:11-12]

When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read",
he replied, "I am not learned".
==========

Let us examine the following passages:

Here in [Deuteronomy 32:19-21] God was angry at the House of Israel (Jews),

"And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.
And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.
They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation." [Deuteronomy 32:19-21]

Question:
So, which is that Nation mentioned in the above passage described as a "Foolish Nation" (also, which are not a people: means used to be ignorant) which God promised to make the Jews jealous of !?

This is the same Nation mentioned by Jesus in this passage:

"Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof." [Matthew 21:43]

Question:
What's that non-jewish NATION which were promised to be given The Kingdom of God ?

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#252 Nov 10, 2012
man alive wrote:
<quoted text>
haha...idiot - fool - your wisdom - pissed off and put me down?...bless your poor naked soul
Your Google study to gain wisdom doesn't impress anyone but you. There is much more factual and compelling information that will dispute all your rhetoric.
Show it or STFU
man alive wrote:
<quoted text>In the same way that the original objective of the Gospel was to free the people from the shackles of Judaism and restore the knowledge of TheWay, the original objective of Islam was to free the people from the shackles of Roman Christianity, and restore the original teachings of TheWay.
Actually The Way is to free humanity, period. Moses' mission was to free the slaves in Egypt. Jesus' mission was to free the slaves in Rome.(Of course, many metaphors have been used and are acceptable) Muhammad's mission was to free the slave in Arabia and Africa. Of the later, it is so explicit I do not see how anyone could have overlooked it. Nevertheless, the early translators of The Quran did not even use the word "slave" or "slavery". So, many Muslims have missed the entire essence of Islam and the non-Muslims have had a free pass to lie about Islam on the slavery issue. But if you read The First Revelation in Arabic, the word used is "ab" which means SLAVE, not "servant", not "devotee"; although "servant" and "devotee" have similar meanings to "slave". In the context of American culture and history to use any word other than "slave" only adds to confusion
man alive wrote:
<quoted text>Have you not learned anything in your journey to the distant mosque?
I try to learn every day. Every Muslim is duty bound to learn something every day.
man alive wrote:
<quoted text>Articulated by the Qur'an? hahahahaha, thanks for that laugh.
The myth is only proved by the mythos (fool)
Obviously, you reading comprehension is flawed. If you took the time to read Those Four Verse carefully, you would see ta contain a great deal of Islamic History.

Notice that the First Word is "Say". Only one word. What does it mean in this context?

It means that Muhammad NEVER inserted his own word into Revelation. His job was to Recite only, nit interpret, not explain: simply Repeat what GOD Said. So, when nitwits like you asked the question of "what is GOD like?" Muhammad did not have any ready answer. However, GOD Sent down to him what he should say. GOD Said "Say..." Say, GOD is Allah, the One, the Absolute..."

Now do you understand? Whenever Muhammad added his own words to Scripture, they were ALWAYS kept separate from GOD's WORD. GOD's WORD is The Quran, the BOOK. But Muhammad's interpretations and opinions and "myths if you insist" are in an entirely separate and different book called al-Hadith. It is not Quran and can never be confused with Quran.

So, you seem to be saying that What GOD Said is "myth". That is your belief. But it is only blind ad ignorant belief on your part. All scientific evidence available to us who study history is that the Quran is GOD;'s WORD Verbatim.
man alive wrote:
<quoted text>Here is some blasphemy for YOU to chew on...
First of all, there will ALWAYS be a prophet of God on the earth.
Of course, Adam was the first prophet and there has been one ever since. Muhammad was the Last True Prophet.

Continued below...

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#253 Nov 10, 2012
Continued from above...
man alive wrote:
<quoted text>Secondly, Mohammed, like Jesus, both received "divine majesty" and knew what many didn't -
That they were man becoming God.
Muhammad certainly and absolutely did not claim any such non-sense. Folks lie and say that Jesus claimed that. But there is no evidence that Jesus claimed it either. It just ta lies have been told. And people believe those lies out of ignorance and blind faith. Islam is not based on blind faith. The Quran aught the Scientific Method which is the basis of all modern sciences. And it taught historical methodology which the basis of all modern social sciences. It was a Muslim, ibn Batuta, who first recorded African history. And it was Muslim, ibn Khaldum, who first recorded the philosophy of history and sociology. Thus, the entirety of modern development and progress goes back to Islam. And through Islam, it is traced back to OD Almighty. Specifically, it is traced back to Three Two Verse in The Quran:
3. Read (Proclaim), and your Lord is the Most Generous,
4. who taught by the Pen,
5. Taught man that which he knew not.(surah 96: http://www.alseraj.net/maktaba/kotob/english/... )

Prior to The Revelation of The Above Three Verses, most people could not read or write. So, Muslims set up Quranic Schools that taught people all over the world how to read and write Quranic Arabic. In most places, that was the ONLY source of education of any kind. Eventually, Christianity picked up on the idea and started what we know as Sunday Schools. Sunday School was the beginning of public education in America. Prior to that, slaves were forbidden to Worship or to learn how to read and write. So, Believers had to Worship in secret. And, Worshippers had to learn to read in secret in order to Worship by reading. Reading the Scriptures is Worship.

In other words, you do not Believe simply because you are ignorant. I do not think you are evil. It is just tat you do not Know GOD and do not Know GODÂ’s WORD which is in the Bible and it The Quran Verbatim

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#254 Nov 10, 2012
bourobou prince wrote:
<quoted text>IF somebody is asking to you if you are the GOD's son and that you respond:I am; what does it mean? LOOK AT YOURSELF and see the idiot in you before to call others idiot.YOU don't even deserve any conversation with me since you are too retard.GET A LIFE.
He said "I AM SON OF MAN".

Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Gabon

#255 Nov 10, 2012
Sorry wrote:
<quoted text>WHAT????????? NO WAY!!! I can't imagine this, but start where you want!! Btw I can't find my bible, but I'll do the best I can to follow you.
PAST and HISTORY ARE VERY CONFUSED because they were so much things that humans rewrote and we were not alive to confirm this or that but the only things I can confirm to you are these:
1/you will love the ETERNAL,your GOD with all your force,your thoughts and your heart.
2/You will love each human like he is yourself(this is the more complicated;but this one may make us approaching [IF WE FOLLOW IT] or make us going away of GOD [IF WE DON'T FOLLOW IT])
HUMANS love to be convinced by the scriptures,while they ARE so much things in the scriptures that are false and that were added.The two things I'm talking about above are verified in the life of everyday and don't need debates,they will send you straight to GOD, you will be certainly saved and your life will be peaceful in this earth.IT's you that decide of the road you will choose,GOD don't force you.peace.

Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Gabon

#256 Nov 10, 2012
Jesus -is- Muslim wrote:
<quoted text>
Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
The entire vision will be to you like the words of a sealed book,
which when they give it to the one who is literate,
saying, "Please read this," he will say, "I cannot, for it is sealed."
Then the book will be given to the one who is illiterate,
saying, "Please read this." And he will say, "I cannot read."
[Isaiah 29:11-12]
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read",
he replied, "I am not learned".
==========
Let us examine the following passages:
Here in [Deuteronomy 32:19-21] God was angry at the House of Israel (Jews),
"And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.
And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.
They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation." [Deuteronomy 32:19-21]
Question:
So, which is that Nation mentioned in the above passage described as a "Foolish Nation" (also, which are not a people: means used to be ignorant) which God promised to make the Jews jealous of !?
This is the same Nation mentioned by Jesus in this passage:
"Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof." [Matthew 21:43]
Question:
What's that non-jewish NATION which were promised to be given The Kingdom of God ?
PAST and HISTORY ARE VERY CONFUSED because they were so much things that humans rewrote and we were not alive to confirm this or that but the only things I can confirm to you are these:
1/you will love the ETERNAL,your GOD with all your force,your thoughts and your heart.
2/You will love each human like he is yourself(this is the more complicated;but this one may make us approaching [IF WE FOLLOW IT] or make us going away of GOD [IF WE DON'T FOLLOW IT])
HUMANS love to be convinced by the scriptures,while they ARE so much things in the scriptures that are false and that were added.The two things I'm talking about above are verified in the life of everyday and don't need debates,they will send you straight to GOD, you will be certainly saved and your life will be peaceful in this earth.IT's you that decide of the road you will choose,GOD don't force you.peace.

Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Gabon

#257 Nov 10, 2012
_Lucifer_ wrote:
God's commandment is thou shalt not kill, yet he orders the Jews to invade the land of Canaan to slaughter the inhabitants of that land. God completely violated his own commandment.
PAST and HISTORY ARE VERY CONFUSED because they were so much things that humans rewrote and we were not alive to confirm this or that but the only things I can confirm to you are these:
1/you will love the ETERNAL,your GOD with all your force,your thoughts and your heart.
2/You will love each human like he is yourself(this is the more complicated;but this one may make us approaching [IF WE FOLLOW IT] or make us going away of GOD [IF WE DON'T FOLLOW IT])
HUMANS love to be convinced by the scriptures,while they ARE so much things in the scriptures that are false and that were added.The two things I'm talking about above are verified in the life of everyday and don't need debates,they will send you straight to GOD, you will be certainly saved and your life will be peaceful in this earth.IT's you that decide of the road you will choose,GOD don't force you.peace.

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