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“Smokey the Bear is Pissed!”

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#66 Feb 2, 2011
Barros Serrano wrote:
YOU said that integration had screwed things up. What you don't get is that integration let BLACK Yanks experience what it was like to be working-class WHITE Yanks!
Your ignorance is beyond belief. Integration DID NOT let Blacks experience what its like to be working class White Yanks, because first of all, Blacks are not White yanks!

Barros Serrano, listen to the stupidity of your post above. I can hop on a plane to China and experience Chinese culture all I want, I will NEVER know what its like to be Chinese because I'm not Chinese!

Most important, integration with Whites equals being subordinate to them. I've read books about professional corporate Black men, and these men have all said that there is a "level" of corporate America that Black men aren't allowed in, there is a level of power within corporate America where the rich White male reigns supreme, where the Black man is not allowed.

White corporations may hire the Black man and pay him a six figure salary, but they will never let him into that upper echelon of power. If Blacks want that then they must build their own companies.

A Black thug in the ghetto may have the power over life and death, but the richest and most powerful White men in America have power "over the way people live," this is how a professional Black guy described it in a book I read, and that is the best analogy.
Maverick

United States

#67 Feb 2, 2011
Kashta, IMO if blacks had invented the nuclear bomb then they would be using it too.

Even if y'all check white man you'll be doing what he does too.

Might makes right rhetoric would come from y'all.

You can't sustain power without an element of ruthlessness.

Be real, Kashta bureh

Those in power know this and more importantly know how to keep it from others.

“Racist/White Supremacists”

Level 2

Since: Jan 11

Control Our Access To Water

#68 Feb 2, 2011
Maverick wrote:
Kashta, IMO if blacks had invented the nuclear bomb then they would be using it too.
Even if y'all check white man you'll be doing what he does too.
Might makes right rhetoric would come from y'all.
You can't sustain power without an element of ruthlessness.
Be real, Kashta bureh
Those in power know this and more importantly know how to keep it from others.
Maybe no one should be trying to sustain power. Maybe the globe should be a cooperative enterprise.

Dr-Zaius

Since: Aug 10

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#69 Feb 2, 2011
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
Damn, you're dumb! You fooled me for a while, I thought you had a brain cell or 2 to rub together and make a spark, but I was wrong.
You like Zaius and Chewy because they are WHITE RACISTS! Those are your favorite people! They justify your existence! Without them, you'd have nothing to talk about! You are their child, their progeny.
Now get off your high horse before I slap you.
YOU said that integration had screwed things up. What you don't get is that integration let BLACK Yanks experience what it was like to be working-class WHITE Yanks!
Dick Gregory, heard of him?, he put it this way: In the South we had segregated schools, and I used to wish I could get into a white school because they had the good books, the ones with the real knowledge. Then we moved to St. Louis, and I was in an integrated school, with mostly white kids, and I sat down and they gave me my books, and they were the same books! It was then I realized there ain't but 6 white boys in America."
THINK about that. THEY ARE OPPRESSING EVERYONE, you numbnuts!
Look, racism is bad and it PISSED ME OFF because it has affected me and also I have had to see people who were my friends, BLACK people, get $hit on because of racists and I did not enjoy it. BUT, you think THAT is all that is happening!
Yes, my peanut butter dripped onto my new pants, goddam system of white supremacy. My girlfriend is being snippy, thanks to the effects of the white supremacist system on her mind. My mama is complaining that her hair is turning grey, which is almost WHITE you see how the white supremacists do this, with their "almost white" tricks!
Yes, they're insidious and they're EVERYWHERE!
Look, seriously, I certainly sympathize with your angst over all the RACISM which does exist in this country and is thrown in the face of black people at least occasionally if not every day, it varies of course. BUT THAT is not everything! It's like if a coyote eats my dog and then eats my cat should I think everything in the world going wrong is due to the actions of coyotes?
White people are like coyotes... but dumber. Seriously. Most of them haven't a goddam clue and they're just as powerless and clueless walking down the street thinking "dumb n----r" when they see a black person as the black person is thinking "goddam c------r" when he sees the dumbass white guy!
"Those damned black people are ruining this country."
"Those damned white people control everything."
After a while you both sound the same, and I think you and Zaius should go on a gay date... since he's a former South African apartheid lover, I'll bet it would REALLY turn him on if you called him "kaffir" as you're poking him. Or is he Rhodesian? Then call him "munt". You'll probably get off on this too.
You can see I have really got to the curry munching coolie now.

ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha

I have told you, mate. I immigrated to America to get away from the Dutch Men. I hated living under the apartheid government. You think whites had it easy. You are a real fool. I got cained there in school once.

You are as racist as anyone you accuse, Hadji. Your peoples are the most racist on the planet. That is why you are a preachy fawk with, "quit smoker syndrome". I wonder where you fell in the caste system. LOL. On the bottom no doubt.

Dr-Zaius

Since: Aug 10

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#70 Feb 2, 2011
tek_knowledge wrote:
<quoted text>
I am after a system of JUSTICE, i think Zaius just wants all nonwites go get away from him. The reason I like speaking with him more is because he is speaking ACCURATELY about white supremacy. You get tons of constructive information from overt white supremacists, especially not inbred rednecks, but ones with a good degree of intelligence. You get on my nerves because you are attempting to confuse, not to mention your repeated attempts to denigrate the Arabs (which I never said they've been the most just people on the planet either).
You've admitted several times that the most powerful white people control the vast majority of the worlds resources and have the power. And of course they're victimizing white people as well. They're elites, and sometimes the generals need to take collateral damage. By the way regular white people function they propagate racist injustice, and they get to beam in the solace that at least they are a white person.
My question to you is,
have you, or have you not seen, in our "revolution" thread, that there are white supremacists who want to enact similar social changes as we do, while still maintaining dominance over nonwhite people?
Piss off, twit. Not one of my posts has ever implied I want blacks to do anything but integrate. I even gave a good post on how mandatory conscription could fix Americas youth problems and you blew it off. Funny, after accusing me of wanting to exterminate them-n-shit last time.

Dr-Zaius

Since: Aug 10

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#71 Feb 2, 2011
Kashta_Bureh wrote:
<quoted text>
Your ignorance is beyond belief. Integration DID NOT let Blacks experience what its like to be working class White Yanks, because first of all, Blacks are not White yanks!
Barros Serrano, listen to the stupidity of your post above. I can hop on a plane to China and experience Chinese culture all I want, I will NEVER know what its like to be Chinese because I'm not Chinese!
Most important, integration with Whites equals being subordinate to them. I've read books about professional corporate Black men, and these men have all said that there is a "level" of corporate America that Black men aren't allowed in, there is a level of power within corporate America where the rich White male reigns supreme, where the Black man is not allowed.
White corporations may hire the Black man and pay him a six figure salary, but they will never let him into that upper echelon of power. If Blacks want that then they must build their own companies.
A Black thug in the ghetto may have the power over life and death, but the richest and most powerful White men in America have power "over the way people live," this is how a professional Black guy described it in a book I read, and that is the best analogy.
You lot are AMERICANS, period. The world sees you as a yank, black or white.

You just want to be a victim of something to explain away your personal failures.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#72 Feb 2, 2011
Kashta_Bureh wrote:
<quoted text>
Your ignorance is beyond belief. Integration DID NOT let Blacks experience what its like to be working class White Yanks, because first of all, Blacks are not White yanks!
Barros Serrano, listen to the stupidity of your post above. I can hop on a plane to China and experience Chinese culture all I want, I will NEVER know what its like to be Chinese because I'm not Chinese!
Most important, integration with Whites equals being subordinate to them. I've read books about professional corporate Black men, and these men have all said that there is a "level" of corporate America that Black men aren't allowed in, there is a level of power within corporate America where the rich White male reigns supreme, where the Black man is not allowed.
White corporations may hire the Black man and pay him a six figure salary, but they will never let him into that upper echelon of power. If Blacks want that then they must build their own companies.
A Black thug in the ghetto may have the power over life and death, but the richest and most powerful White men in America have power "over the way people live," this is how a professional Black guy described it in a book I read, and that is the best analogy.
You're sputtering the rhetoric of racism (& the reaction to it), but you didn't get what I said.

By eliminating Jim Crow, at least legally, in many cases black Yanks got to have jobs formerly reserved to whites, to earn that money, to go to the same mall, etc. What they discovered was that still they were being exploited and repressed, and my point is that SO ARE THE WHITES. So in that respect, some equality was attained.

White workers had to fight a vicious struggle for Unions and progressive changes to pull the majority OF WHITE PEOPLE in the USA out of poverty and employment abuse. You see this persisting most probably in the coal mines today, where non-Union mines proliferate and miners die after the company has ignored 150 complaints of safety violations and the bought-off politicians will do nothing about it.

You're trying to tell me there is a vast cultural gulf between the white and black workers, even if discrimination and segregation are eliminated. Well there is a cultural difference, to some extent, yes, there is a black experience and a white experience, ok, but those aren't ALL of a culture and the 2 groups are living very similar lives in many ways. Look at the USA from another country and this is clear.

I'm saying exactly what Dr. King said, that once you knock down segregation, there remains the fact that the working class is exploited, that the country has strong forces with great wealth and power trying to taking advantage of EVERYONE and usually succeeding.

UNITY, that's the point.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Level 8

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#73 Feb 2, 2011
Maverick wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't state that.
I said I'm glad they shut down media outlets to the west due to their biased western views propaganda.
Yeah the western media is so bias it shows Egyptians revolting against a President whose been ruling for 30 yrs with not any real success and much corruption.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Level 8

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#74 Feb 2, 2011
Kashta_Bureh wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem with integrating with Whites is that they will only integrate with you when you are beneath them. I'm sure you know what a token is, and I'm sure you've heard of the "glass ceiling."
Did you also know that Black employees make less on average than their White counterparts, even when they have comparable skills and education?
Well Asians make more than whites in many white owned companies. Why are Asian-Americans successful but not blacks? Because they actually work hard. They are not lazy like black people.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Level 8

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#75 Feb 2, 2011
Kashta_Bureh wrote:
<quoted text>
Your ignorance is beyond belief. Integration DID NOT let Blacks experience what its like to be working class White Yanks, because first of all, Blacks are not White yanks!
Barros Serrano, listen to the stupidity of your post above. I can hop on a plane to China and experience Chinese culture all I want, I will NEVER know what its like to be Chinese because I'm not Chinese!
Most important, integration with Whites equals being subordinate to them. I've read books about professional corporate Black men, and these men have all said that there is a "level" of corporate America that Black men aren't allowed in, there is a level of power within corporate America where the rich White male reigns supreme, where the Black man is not allowed.
White corporations may hire the Black man and pay him a six figure salary, but they will never let him into that upper echelon of power. If Blacks want that then they must build their own companies.
A Black thug in the ghetto may have the power over life and death, but the richest and most powerful White men in America have power "over the way people live," this is how a professional Black guy described it in a book I read, and that is the best analogy.
Kashta integration allows blacks the ability to open up their own businesses and market it to all races of people.
Jackass

Placentia, CA

#76 Feb 2, 2011
Kashta_Bureh wrote:
Apparently, a power company in Georgia has been caught overcharging its Black customers and has been targeted with a $163 million law suit. Below is the article on this breaking news:
http://chronicle.augusta.com/latest-news/2010...
This incident with the power company just goes to show why integration is a failure, and why I have no respect for the Civil Rights Era generation that chose to integrate.
Malcolm X warned us 40+ years ago not to integrate with Whites, but dumb ass White loving Blacks didn't listen, they chose to integrate anyway. Now the Black community owns NO POWER COMPANIES and we are totally dependent on Whites to supply us with electricity, and they can overcharge us or shut off our electricity whenever they want. Thanks MLK, integration really works!
Most blacks do not want to do any thing and expect hand outs because of their skin color, my source, my black family and many I've been around. It's odd how other minorities have little problems. Asians aren't bitching and Hispanics are moving up and out number blacks in colleges in the West by half.

Face it, we have failed, not intergration.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Level 3

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#77 Feb 2, 2011
Kashta_Bureh wrote:
Apparently, a power company in Georgia has been caught overcharging its Black customers and has been targeted with a $163 million law suit. Below is the article on this breaking news:
http://chronicle.augusta.com/latest-news/2010...
This incident with the power company just goes to show why integration is a failure, and why I have no respect for the Civil Rights Era generation that chose to integrate.
Malcolm X warned us 40+ years ago not to integrate with Whites, but dumb ass White loving Blacks didn't listen, they chose to integrate anyway. Now the Black community owns NO POWER COMPANIES and we are totally dependent on Whites to supply us with electricity, and they can overcharge us or shut off our electricity whenever they want. Thanks MLK, integration really works!
Uhhhh. So did blacks own any power companies "BEFORE" integration? If not then is not your point above rather moot?

Level 2

Since: Nov 10

California

#78 Feb 2, 2011
Kashta_Bureh wrote:
<quoted text>
Your ignorance is beyond belief. Integration DID NOT let Blacks experience what its like to be working class White Yanks, because first of all, Blacks are not White yanks!
Barros Serrano, listen to the stupidity of your post above. I can hop on a plane to China and experience Chinese culture all I want, I will NEVER know what its like to be Chinese because I'm not Chinese!
Most important, integration with Whites equals being subordinate to them. I've read books about professional corporate Black men, and these men have all said that there is a "level" of corporate America that Black men aren't allowed in, there is a level of power within corporate America where the rich White male reigns supreme, where the Black man is not allowed.
White corporations may hire the Black man and pay him a six figure salary, but they will never let him into that upper echelon of power. If Blacks want that then they must build their own companies.
A Black thug in the ghetto may have the power over life and death, but the richest and most powerful White men in America have power "over the way people live," this is how a professional Black guy described it in a book I read, and that is the best analogy.
Your back.:)

Level 2

Since: Nov 10

California

#79 Feb 2, 2011
correction, *you're
Aidyn

Toledo, OH

#80 Feb 2, 2011
Maverick wrote:
<quoted text>
If blacks were the elite and were in power, would things be different in regards to technology, etc?
Blacks invented the pyramids Maverick.... White men still haven't figured out how they were built...

“Smokey the Bear is Pissed!”

Level 5

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#81 Feb 2, 2011
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
You're sputtering the rhetoric of racism (& the reaction to it), but you didn't get what I said.
By eliminating Jim Crow, at least legally, in many cases black Yanks got to have jobs formerly reserved to whites, to earn that money, to go to the same mall, etc. What they discovered was that still they were being exploited and repressed, and my point is that SO ARE THE WHITES. So in that respect, some equality was attained.
White workers had to fight a vicious struggle for Unions and progressive changes to pull the majority OF WHITE PEOPLE in the USA out of poverty and employment abuse. You see this persisting most probably in the coal mines today, where non-Union mines proliferate and miners die after the company has ignored 150 complaints of safety violations and the bought-off politicians will do nothing about it.
You're trying to tell me there is a vast cultural gulf between the white and black workers, even if discrimination and segregation are eliminated. Well there is a cultural difference, to some extent, yes, there is a black experience and a white experience, ok, but those aren't ALL of a culture and the 2 groups are living very similar lives in many ways. Look at the USA from another country and this is clear.
I'm saying exactly what Dr. King said, that once you knock down segregation, there remains the fact that the working class is exploited, that the country has strong forces with great wealth and power trying to taking advantage of EVERYONE and usually succeeding.
UNITY, that's the point.
There you go again with that "class struggle" stuff. Look, there will always be rich and powerful people, okay? There will always be a Bill Gates, Donald Trump, or Oprah, and there will always be the Saddam Hussein, Hitler, and Napoleon types. This is just a fact of human existence.

Humans will always be divided by class, some people are just better than others, some people are just stronger, faster, smarter, and more disciplined. These people deserve to be rich and powerful.

You make it seem like the rich are the problem, the rich are actually some of the most generous people in America, just think of the billions they give to charity. The average Joe is the selfish one, he wants a job so he can take care of himself and his family. But a guy like Steve Jobs is more generous because he built a company which employs tens of thousands of people.

In other words, lay off the rich, because the rich create jobs. As for the mines, so what, the mining operators expose the miners to poor conditions..........and why the do the miners go down in the mine knowing they will get sick? Why don't they go into another line of work?

You sit here and whine because these miners are being exposed to danger, well I'll be, that is what they signed up for when they got the job, now didn't they? There is a reason why I don't work in a mine, because I know the risks and I'd rather not take them. People need to be responsible for their own actions and start blaming others.

“Smokey the Bear is Pissed!”

Level 5

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#82 Feb 2, 2011
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Uhhhh. So did blacks own any power companies "BEFORE" integration? If not then is not your point above rather moot?
Well, if you were truly well read in Black history, which by the post above I assume you are not, then you would know that there was a Black man by the name of ISADORE BANKS who was WW1 veteran, and when he came back to Arkansas after the war he became a wealthy land owner and set up electrical power for the Blacks in his community. He was a very successful entrepreneur.

Of course, the Whites became afraid and jealous of Banks because he was a strong Black man and they couldn't handle that so they chained him to a tree, castrated him, and burned him alive........

http://www.blackamericaweb.com/...

Isadore Banks had the capital and knowledge in order to start his own power company if he wanted to, and may have done so had he lived, there were many Black inventors before the Civil Rights Movement who had the skill. The problem is, if you understand history you would know that Whites have CONSTANTLY thwarted the attempts of Blacks in the past to rise up, and Isadore Banks is just one of hundreds of examples.

By the way..........the murder of Isadore Banks remains unsolved and though the FBI reopened his case they suddenly backed off and closed it and destroyed the case file, this means somebody powerful in Arkansas had him killed, somebody that is above the law and untouchable by law enforcement. I believe the FBI knows who killed him but they will never release that info to the public.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Level 3

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#83 Feb 2, 2011
Kashta_Bureh wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, if you were truly well read in Black history, which by the post above I assume you are not, then you would know that there was a Black man by the name of ISADORE BANKS who was WW1 veteran, and when he came back to Arkansas after the war he became a wealthy land owner and set up electrical power for the Blacks in his community. He was a very successful entrepreneur.
Of course, the Whites became afraid and jealous of Banks because he was a strong Black man and they couldn't handle that so they chained him to a tree, castrated him, and burned him alive........
http://www.blackamericaweb.com/...
Isadore Banks had the capital and knowledge in order to start his own power company if he wanted to, and may have done so had he lived, there were many Black inventors before the Civil Rights Movement who had the skill. The problem is, if you understand history you would know that Whites have CONSTANTLY thwarted the attempts of Blacks in the past to rise up, and Isadore Banks is just one of hundreds of examples.
By the way..........the murder of Isadore Banks remains unsolved and though the FBI reopened his case they suddenly backed off and closed it and destroyed the case file, this means somebody powerful in Arkansas had him killed, somebody that is above the law and untouchable by law enforcement. I believe the FBI knows who killed him but they will never release that info to the public.
I'm sure that statement about my not being well read in black history was an attempted insult. However,there are very few blacks that are "well read" in black history...yourself included. Anyone can look up black history facts on the internet and then pretend that they're black history scholars.

Be that as it may though but "MODERN HISTORY" has taught me not to do business with blacks. Black business people are not to be trusted and I could definitely cite you some glaring examples from my own experiences of doing business with black people.

“Smokey the Bear is Pissed!”

Level 5

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#84 Feb 2, 2011
Jackass wrote:
<quoted text>
Most blacks do not want to do any thing and expect hand outs because of their skin color, my source, my black family and many I've been around. It's odd how other minorities have little problems. Asians aren't bitching and Hispanics are moving up and out number blacks in colleges in the West by half.
Face it, we have failed, not intergration.
There is a lot of truth to what you're saying above; Black people are most certainly partly at fault, and many do have an entitlement mentality. Nobody asked those clowns 50 years ago to integrate, they should have done what Malcolm X told them to do and separate into their own communities, and defend themselves against attacks by Whites.

But you see, Blacks 50 years ago chose to take the easy way out. Integration is easy. Any loser can do that. It takes a strong group of people to separate, stand on their own two feet, and build for themselves.

Blacks chose to nut hug the White man. Well, look where it has gotten us. We have a 35% unemployment rate, the highest HIV rates, the highest incarceration rates, 65% of Black American marriages end in divorce, and Blacks own no large companies.

The reality is that Black folks are followers, we are not leaders. We sit on the sidelines watching the Asians and Whites play ball and we are spectators. Until I see Blacks owning a Mitsubishi or Microsoft or Walmart we are nothing, peons, bacteria, losers.

The Black man needs to stop begging and pleading to Whites and other races to be a part of their societies and learn to stand up on his own two feet and succeed on his own. If he does that Whites will respect him. Whites and other races dislike us because we grovel and beg for equality, real men earn respect and equality, they don't beg for it.

Cracker Jackl

“Aren't you ashamed of yourself”

Since: Jan 11

Bone Gap, IL

#85 Feb 2, 2011
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure that statement about my not being well read in black history was an attempted insult. However,there are very few blacks that are "well read" in black history...yourself included. Anyone can look up black history facts on the internet and then pretend that they're black history scholars.
Be that as it may though but "MODERN HISTORY" has taught me not to do business with blacks. Black business people are not to be trusted and I could definitely cite you some glaring examples from my own experiences of doing business with black people.
What do you think of the title of this thread?
It says "caught", and then when you read the story it links to, you find out there's no proof. There's not even a court date for the lawsuit set yet.

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