MOORS in SPAIN=Light Bearers of KEMET?
trollslayer

Midlothian, IL

#552 Mar 5, 2014
Shining in darkness wrote:
<quoted text>Hate her lol as if she is worthy of any more than indifference. Its amazing to see how desperate Nogs are to claim Egyptians and mores as part of some glorious Nog past. Pure fantasy Nogs. Moroccans are still there and are not Nogs. Egyptians are still there and are not Nogs.
Its blatantly obvious.
lol...learn how to spell...ya' dumb illiterate.
Shining in darkness

Geebung, Australia

#553 Mar 5, 2014
trollslayer wrote:
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lol...learn how to spell...ya' dumb illiterate.
Lol looks like autocorrect doesn't care about Moors. A typo doesn't change the truth in my post.
Godbody

Jonesboro, GA

#554 Mar 5, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>The majority of Moors were white and still are:
www.youtube.com/watch...
Thats not what your white historians say

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In the 16th – 18th century, Africans enslaved 1.5 million White Europeans in the Barbary Slave Trade. African Muslims raided up the coastlines of Europe, particularly the British Isles but even as far as Iceland, kidnapping and enslaving White European Christians. The men were galley slaves, and the women were sex slaves. This was more brutal than working on a plantation or as a domestic servant.

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Godbody

Jonesboro, GA

#555 Mar 5, 2014
Basil Davidson, one of the most noted historians said during the time (the eighth century)---"more admired by its neighbors, or more comfortable to live in, than a rich African civilization which took shape in spain. the color of the conquering armies that came with Tarikh were described vividly by a European scholar who sympathized with Christians Spain: "...the reins of their (Moors) horses were as fire, their faces black as pitch, their eyes shone like burning candles, their horses were swift as leopards and the riders fiercer than a wolf in the sheepfold at night ... The noble Goths were broken in an hour, quicker than tongue can tell. Oh, luckless Spain."

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#556 Mar 5, 2014
Godbody wrote:
<quoted text>Thats not what your white historians say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =iA5Foy0uLAUXX&feature=you tu.be
In the 16th – 18th century, Africans enslaved 1.5 million White Europeans in the Barbary Slave Trade. African Muslims raided up the coastlines of Europe, particularly the British Isles but even as far as Iceland, kidnapping and enslaving White European Christians. The men were galley slaves, and the women were sex slaves. This was more brutal than working on a plantation or as a domestic servant.
For what its worth GB, most them pirates wasn't Blacks but Turks and some Europeans.

"Some corsairs were European outcasts and converts such as John Ward and Zymen Danseker.Hayreddin Barbarossa and Oruç Reis, the Barbarossa brothers, who took control of Algiers on behalf of the Ottomans in the early 16th century, were also famous corsairs. The European pirates brought advanced sailing and shipbuilding techniques to the Barbary Coast around 1600, which enabled the corsairs to extend their activities into the Atlantic Ocean, and the impact of Barbary raids peaked in the early to mid-17th century."

Review of Pirates of Barbary by Ian W. Toll, New York Times, Dec. 12, 2010

History sure is strange, isn't?

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Godbody

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#557 Mar 5, 2014
Count Volney “Those piles of ruins which you see in that narrow valley watered by the Nile, are the remains of opulent cities, the pride of the ancient kingdom of Ethiopia. There a people, now forgotten, discovered while others were yet barbarians, the elements of the arts and sciences. A race of men now rejected from society for their sable skin and frizzled hair, founded on the study of the laws of nature, those civil and religious systems which still govern the universe.”

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#558 Mar 5, 2014
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Basil Davidson, one of the most noted historians said during the time (the eighth century)---"more admired by its neighbors, or more comfortable to live in, than a rich African civilization which took shape in spain. the color of the conquering armies that came with Tarikh were described vividly by a European scholar who sympathized with Christians Spain: "...the reins of their (Moors) horses were as fire, their faces black as pitch, their eyes shone like burning candles, their horses were swift as leopards and the riders fiercer than a wolf in the sheepfold at night ... The noble Goths were broken in an hour, quicker than tongue can tell. Oh, luckless Spain."
But the Moors had help for their intial conquest.

"According to the Egyptian historian Ibn Abd-el-Hakem, writing a century and a half after the events, Julian sent one of his daughters to Roderic's court at Toledo for education (and as a gauge of Julian's loyalty) and Roderic subsequently made her pregnant. When Julian learned of the affair he removed his daughter from Roderic's court and, out of vengeance, betrayed Hispania to the Muslim invaders, thus making possible the Umayyad conquest of Hispania. Later ballads and chronicles inflated this tale, Muslims making her out an innocent virgin who was ravished, Christians making her a seductress. In Spanish she came to be known as la Cava Rumía.
The next summer Julian provided the ships to carry Muslim troops across to Europe. Julian also briefed Tariq, their general. Then the latter left Julian behind among the merchants and crossed the Strait of Hercules with a force of some 1,700 men. He landed at Gibraltar (Jebel Tariq in Arabic) on April 30, 711, and thus began the Umayyad conquest of Hispania.

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Godbody

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#559 Mar 5, 2014
Gayrig/African AE would like you to believe the moors wherewhite,but they where always described as black

(Moors). An ancient source, Ibn Husayn (ca. 950, recorded that these troops were "Sudanese", an Arabic word for Black people. 27 May 1508).

"The many female European captives who were taken sexually by their masters and thousands of immigrant renegades all brought a great deal of European blood into local gene pools.-CHRISTIAN SLAVES, MUSLIM MASTERS: White Slavery in the Mediteranean, The Barbary Coast, and Italy, 1500-1800 by Robert C. Davis(2003)

European nations were under the threat of piracy and depredations by Black Muslim pirates from North Africa. These Barbary pirates used to intercept commercial vessels in the sea, loot the merchandise as booty and capture white Europeans sailors as slaves for selling in the slave-markets.

Robert Davis, professor of history at Ohio State University, developed a scientific method to calculate the number of white Christians, enslaved along Africa’s Barbary Coast. He reached the conclusion that a million or more European Christians were enslaved by North African Muslims in between 1530 and 1780 – a far greater number than had ever been estimated before.[4]

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Godbody

Jonesboro, GA

#560 Mar 5, 2014
The original Black Arabs who lost control of the Islamic Religious Empire to the White Turkish slave-soldiers , through the White Turkish women they where breeding with, thereby created the Ottoman Turkish Empire.

Over time the meaning of the word Arab has changed and it simply means one who speaks Arabic .Much information can be found in early Arabic writings of what the original black arabs looked like......>>>>

"Red, in the speech of the people from the Hijaz, means fair-complexioned and this color is rare amongst the Arabs. This is the meaning of the saying,‘…a red man as if he is one of the slaves’.
The speaker meant that his color is like that of the slaves who were captured from the Christians of Syria, Rome and Persia.”-From Al Dhahabi of Damascus Syria, in Seyar al Nubala’a, cited on p. 55, The Unknown Arabs, 2002, by Tariq Berry.

“…a fair-skinned Arab is something inconceivable…“ Ibn Abd Rabbu of Cordoba born 9th c. writing in El Iqd el Farid (The Precious Necklace), quoting Shuraik el-Qadi a 7th century Arab of the clan of Nakha’l or Anakha of the Maddhij tribe in the Yemen.

Hassaniyya claim descent from the Sulaym or Maqil the well known black Arabians who came across North Africa. The fact that they and especially high classed "Moors" - a name for the the Hassaniyya and Trarza in Mauritania and elsewhere- are today "a shade lighter" than Mande and other black Africans speaks to the number of white slaves they have been trading between Morocco and Mauritania and Senegal until recently. But, it certainly says nothing of what they looked like in the Almoravid 12th century and before.

This trade went on until the last century. See he 1902 book, The Moors: A Comprehensive Description by Budgett Meakin 1902 p. 138.

The long and lanky dark brown men called the Tuarek of the Sahel countries, or Tuwareg who can still be seen, veiled and armed with a sword and shield, striding through the desert with their camels, are still involved in the desert commerce they were in charge of in the Middle Ages.

They still trace their ancestry to the Yemenite Hejazi and Hejazi Arab 'tribes', the main bringers of Islam in Africa. They still trace their ancestry to Yemen (or Southern Arabia) and like their kinsmen in Yemen, they can be seen playing "Moorish" melodies with stringed, percussion and wind instruments under shade trees in Mauritania. The turbaned Tibbu and Zaghawa, jet black and wiry men, once known for their sorcery and their skill in metallurgy, are still spread across the hottest areas of the Sahel and southern parts of the Sahara.

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Godbody

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#561 Mar 5, 2014
were very fond of Turkish women, they kept their Harems well stocked with them.

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...

There are German paintings, such as the one below, which clearly show Barbarian Whites attacking a Black kings Castle in medieval Germany.
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...

In ancient times, Europe was practically Northern Africa, because military and scientific knowledge was
controlled by Africans called Moors (pre-Christian and later Christian and Muslim).The Ethiopian Empire of 650 BC spread into Europe and introduced castle-building
It is only in the last two hundred years that white rulership of the world.The collapse of black rule in europe resulted in the final collapse of Black rule in africa. Europe and Africa have had an inter-twined history for many thousands of years because the little separation of the Mediterranean Sea made Europe to be Northern Africa.The blame to Black people should be on their inability to protect themselves from Invasion via the bedroom.It took White People over 1,500 years
to get to the level of inter-marrying with the indigenous Black aristocracy of Europe.

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#562 Mar 5, 2014
Godbody wrote:
Gayrig/African AE would like you to believe the moors wherewhite,but they where always described as black
(Moors). An ancient source, Ibn Husayn (ca. 950, recorded that these troops were "Sudanese", an Arabic word for Black people. 27 May 1508).
"The many female European captives who were taken sexually by their masters and thousands of immigrant renegades all brought a great deal of European blood into local gene pools.-CHRISTIAN SLAVES, MUSLIM MASTERS: White Slavery in the Mediteranean, The Barbary Coast, and Italy, 1500-1800 by Robert C. Davis(2003)
European nations were under the threat of piracy and depredations by Black Muslim pirates from North Africa. These Barbary pirates used to intercept commercial vessels in the sea, loot the merchandise as booty and capture white Europeans sailors as slaves for selling in the slave-markets.
Robert Davis, professor of history at Ohio State University, developed a scientific method to calculate the number of white Christians, enslaved along Africa’s Barbary Coast. He reached the conclusion that a million or more European Christians were enslaved by North African Muslims in between 1530 and 1780 – a far greater number than had ever been estimated before.[4]
Actaully The Moors that invaded Spain and the Barbary pirates are many centuries apart. The Barbary pirates worked for the Turks. And as I said some of the famous ones were Europeans. Forget all that bullcrap they been pumpin into you in jail. In the real world truth and facts count, son.

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Godbody

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#563 Mar 5, 2014
"This Sarrazin great heretick meseems, Rather I’ld die, than not slay him clean, Neer did I love coward nor cowardice.” CXLIII But what avail? Though fled be Marsilies, He’s left behind his uncle, the alcaliph Who holds Alferne, Kartagene, Garmalie, And Ethiope, a cursed land indeed; The blackamoors from there are in his keep, Broad in the nose they are and flat in the ear, Fifty thousand and more in company.

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Godbody

Jonesboro, GA

#564 Mar 5, 2014
gayrig--"In the real world truth and facts count, son. "

gayrig doesnt like my facts written by white historians.Outof frustration he'sjudging posts.lol.Get mad crakkker

Strabo (63 - 24 AD)
" he adds, and Tearco [Taharqa] the Aethiopian(africa/moor) advanced as far as Europe; and Nabocodrosor, who enjoyed greater repute among the Chaldaeans [in modern day Iraq] than Heracles, led an army even as far as the Pillars [Gibraltar]. Thus far, he says, also Tearco went..."

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African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#566 Mar 6, 2014
Godbody wrote:
<quoted text>Thats not what your white historians say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =iA5Foy0uLAUXX&feature=you tu.be
In the 16th – 18th century, Africans enslaved 1.5 million White Europeans in the Barbary Slave Trade. African Muslims raided up the coastlines of Europe, particularly the British Isles but even as far as Iceland, kidnapping and enslaving White European Christians. The men were galley slaves, and the women were sex slaves. This was more brutal than working on a plantation or as a domestic servant.
Yes but today there is 70 000 000 mostly white Algerians,Moroccans! They couldnt have all come from 1 500 000 white slaves!

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#567 Mar 6, 2014
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Yes but today there is 70 000 000 mostly white Algerians,Moroccans! They couldnt have all come from 1 500 000 white slaves!
Whats more, the slaves were sent all over the place not just North Africa but to the Middle East and Turkey. Some were bought back for a ransom.

"The Barbary pirates had long attacked English and other European shipping along the North Coast of Africa. They had been attacking English merchant and passengers ships since the 1600s. The many captives required regular fundraising by families and local church groups, who generally raised the ransoms for individuals. The English became familiar with captivity narratives written by Barbary pirates' prisoners, and some who were sold into Arab slavery before the North American colonies were well established."

Also according to historians most of the slaves went to the welathy who could afford them and would not end up peasant Berber communities.

"Between 1628 and 1634, Barbary corsairs seized eighty French ships and enslaved 1,331 men and women. During six months in 1636, they captured more than one thousand Englishmen. Spain and Italy lost approximately one-fifth of their population in the seventeenth century to corsair raids. The youngest and best-looking boys became pages in the palaces. Beautiful women were given as gifts to the sultan, for his harem. Gunners, seamen, and shipbuilders were especially prized as slaves."
http://www.cindyvallar.com/BCcaptives.html

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Hannibal

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#568 Mar 8, 2014
Godbody wrote:
were very fond of Turkish women, they kept their Harems well stocked with them.
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...
There are German paintings, such as the one below, which clearly show Barbarian Whites attacking a Black kings Castle in medieval Germany.
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...
In ancient times, Europe was practically Northern Africa, because military and scientific knowledge was
controlled by Africans called Moors (pre-Christian and later Christian and Muslim).The Ethiopian Empire of 650 BC spread into Europe and introduced castle-building
It is only in the last two hundred years that white rulership of the world.The collapse of black rule in europe resulted in the final collapse of Black rule in africa. Europe and Africa have had an inter-twined history for many thousands of years because the little separation of the Mediterranean Sea made Europe to be Northern Africa.The blame to Black people should be on their inability to protect themselves from Invasion via the bedroom.It took White People over 1,500 years
to get to the level of inter-marrying with the indigenous Black aristocracy of Europe.
Keep speaking the truth brotha!

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Godbody

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#569 Mar 9, 2014
Garrig wrote:
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Actaully The Moors that invaded Spain and the Barbary pirates are many centuries apart. The Barbary pirates worked for the Turks. And as I said some of the famous ones were Europeans. Forget all that bullcrap they been pumpin into you in jail. In the real world truth and facts count, son.
Since you dont take any information from black/moorish people to be true,listen to this crakkker tell the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Godbody

Jonesboro, GA

#570 Mar 12, 2014
Ther ancestors werent even considered human until recently

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3717/vlcsn...

these animals are still born with tails

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#571 Mar 12, 2014
Godbody wrote:
Ther ancestors werent even considered human until recently
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3717/vlcsn...
these animals are still born with tails
What did your Dominican grandmoms used to say about Black people GB?

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Godbody

Jonesboro, GA

#572 Mar 12, 2014
Garrig wrote:
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What did your Dominican grandmoms used to say about Black people GB?
That she was proud to be the daughter of a black man who fought along sideToussaint to rid Haiti of crackkers.Its in my bloodline.The first slaves brought to dominican rep/haiti where the black moors called "ladinos" that where taken from spain and brought to the island.Those historic buildings in Santo domingo where built by the moors.lots of hidden moorish history in domiica republic too.So do you agree with info on the video i posted?

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