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Berber were Black , Almoravids were Black

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Moor originally was not used to describe just those people from Morocco etc but was used to describe melanated people period. They've also changed the definition of black and Caucasian. Originally those definitions described them as descendants from the Caucasus mountains.
This idea of whitewashing the terms Arab, Berber and Moor are new .Moors are especially negro. "Arabs" as defined today are the offspring of Moors and Europeans. In history we are reference to as Berbers. Berber etymology is in relation to barbarian. We were the barbary pirates. Paler Moors were called Tawny Moors. "Negro" Moors were black-a-moors. Now they just call us black. Arabic is a language that North Africans speak and is more ancient then a people called "arab".

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Malam Shaïhu, a Hausa writer of 19th century said on the origin of Hausa:” If someone ask you… where did the Hausa Originated?… tell there are from BERI-BERI (The true Berbers) and Northeners(ARAWA)”
These Northeners (Arawa) were said to live in Egypt (Ta-Muri or Ta-Mauri) and the Beri-Beri (Borno) leaved in the SIWA region in today Lybia.
Even nowadays, the Queen of Azna and Baura( servant of RA) are present in the customs of Arewa In Nijer

"During the Persian, Greek, and Roman invasions, large numbers of Egyptians fled not only to the desert and mountain regions, but also to adjacent lands in Africa, Arabia and Asia Minor, where they lived, and secretly developed the teachings which belonged to their mystery system.In addition, the Moors kept up constant contact with mother Egypt: for they had established Caliphates not only at Baghdad and Cordova, but also at Cairo in Egypt.(Europe in the Middle Ages by Ault p. 216-219). Just here it would be well to mention that all the great leaders of the great religions of antiquity were initiates of the Egyptian Mystery System"-Stolen Legacy
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Ish Tov wrote:
Can't we discuss Moors reasonably? Who they really were? There are many things we could mention which they did in Spain, technologically, architecturally, agriculturally, etc., which are of note, not to mention intellectually with the maintenance for several centuries of places of learning which were allowed free thought... unlike what was going on under the Muslim Caliphate or Christian Church of Rome.
Why must it always be mystic moors from outer space who are really choctaw and really the king of Europe and really Egyptian and really African-American... come on...
Now I'll bet there is some actual black Moorish and Berber Moorish blood in African-Americans, but let's be real about this. It's in Mexico too, because moriscos as well as various Africans went on Spanish ships to Mexico.
Oh but here we go, I opened that whole can of worms.... The Olmec Moors, the Mayan Moors, the Otomí Moors, the Yaquí Moors, etc... don't forget them... LOL!!!
I'm also not a fan of the fantasy and outlandish theories about who the Moors were/are. But I do know some things for a fact, based on the literature of the 1800s where racial biases weren't commonplace in scientific studies and histories. Based on what I've learned from reading books by Stanley Lane Poole and Lady Lugard (both Caucasians) the majority of the Moors in Europe has always been Black/very dark skinned Africans. And many of us Africans Americans/Black people here are descendants of those as Moors who were sold into Slavery after their defeat.

If you study the fall of the Moorish empire and the transatlantic slave trade you'll see they happen within the same time period..

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Look up the Black Freising kings of Europe

Slovenia

Skofja Loka

The crowned Moor represented on this 1000-year old town's coat of arms and flag is directly related to the aforementioned Freising moor.

http://www.taneter.org/Skofja.jpg

Avenches Swiss.png Switzerland coat of arms

http://www.taneter.org/Avenches%20Swiss.png

Germany

Coburg

Coburg, the ancestral home of the British royal family Saxe Coburg-Gotha, otherwise known as Windsor. The town is known for its picturesque castles and museums, but its most popular resident is the Coburg Moor which appears on the town's edifices, coat of arms, and flag (as shown below).

http://www.taneter.org/Egyptian%20St.%20Mauri...

The home town of Pope Benedict is adorned with a crowned-head Moor which may be seen at the Freising castle and on the town's official coat of arms and flag.

The pope uses the same representation of the Moor on his official papal coat of arms. As the pope put it in his autobiography, the "caput aethiopicum" has been used by Freising bishops for over 1,000 years.
http://www.taneter.org/Freising%20Coat%20of%2...

http://www.taneter.org/benedict_coat_of_arms....

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Moorish kings ruled europe from 193 AD TO 1453 AD

Maurice, Elector of Saxony (reign 24 April 1547 – 9 July 1553)

Here is his coin:

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...
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In ancient times, Europe was practically Northern Africa, because military and scientific knowledge was
controlled by Africans called Moors (pre-Christian and later Christian and Muslim).The Ethiopian Empire of 650 BC spread into Europe and introduced castle-building. Black African being elected to serve as a Mayor in Europe which
had been ruled by 18th Dynasty Black Africans in the Ancient Egyptian Empire of the New kingdom of 15th Century BC, the Roman Empire
27 BC–AD 476 (West); 1453 (East) and the Black African Nobility of Medieval Europe.

This is the sculpture of Princess Meritaten, daugther of Pharoah Akhenaten and Queen Nefertiti, who sailed away in political exile,
to Ireland sometime between 1400 to 1350 BC to become Princess Scotia, after whom Scotland is named.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
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The ancient world was not racist, it was culturalist.Old Roman empire was not a white empire. After the fall of the Roman Empire, the Frankish Kingdoms that became Spanish and Germanic Empires were not originally White. The image of Europe up to 500 A.D was not an image of White People. Racism originated as an economic competition tool for one set of people to corner 99.5% of resources at the expense of another set of people.

Joseph Boulogne was an inspiration for Mozart so it was the other way around, it was Mozart who was "The white Joseph Boulogne". Mozart just borrowed music from him. People were coming from all of Europe just to listen Joseph Boulogne play violon. He was "The King of Pop" of his time.

Joseph Boulogne,(Chevalier de Saint-George)[Knight of Saint-George]
http://sallesaint-george.com/wp-content/uploa...

Coin of King George III issued in Barbados
http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/an...
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It is only in the last two hundred years that white rulership of the world.The collapse of black rule in europe resulted in the final collapse of Black rule in africa. Europe and Africa have had an inter-twined history for many thousands of years because the little separation of the Mediterranean Sea made Europe to be Northern Africa.The blame to Black people should be on their inability to protect themselves from Invasion via the bedroom.

It took White People over 1,500 years
to get to the level of inter-marrying with the indigenous Black aristocracy of Europe.The same thing happened with the original Black Arabs who lost control of the Islamic Religious Empire to the White Turkish slave-soldiers , through the White Turkish women, thereby creating the Ottoman Turkish Empire.
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look how close africa is to europe
http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/an...

There are German paintings, such as the one below, which clearly show Barbarian Whites attacking a Black kings Castle in medieval Germany.
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...

depiction of european mideveal knights

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...

Family crest of Amo First found in Castile, in north central Spain
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...

Family crest of Morfyn. First found in Essex where they held a family seat as Lords of the Manor..
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...

Family crest of christie
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...
The Picts were the ancient Scottish tribe where the ancestors of the christie family lived. The name christie comes from Christopher or perhaps from Christian
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These Moorish and Arabic texts were translations of Black Ancient Egyptian knowledge. The European Renaissance was African Knowledge transmitted by (Black Muslim) Moors to Black-Ruled Christian European Kingdoms.

WHEN WE RULED, by Robin Walker
"Meanwhile, the European translation centres of Moorish and Arabic texts, established in the 10th century had borne fruit. By the 12th century (1100s) and 13th century (1200s) there was the rise of major European Universities. Bologna University (Italy) was established in 1158, Montpelier (France) in 1180, Oxford (England) in 1200, Toulouse (France) in 1223, Rome (Italy) in 1245 and Cambridge (England) in 1257. Arguably, this process began the genesis of the European Renaissance."
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Even to this day, the Moors are honored within freemasonry, english author (BORN IN BLOOD) John Robinson states that the Master Mason degree within the Knight Templer rite of today's states that this degree is designed to make a mason a "friend to all pirates and cosairs".

Another factor is that there is a "side degree" in Knight Templer Rite freemasonry entitled the ROYAL ARK MARINER degree , which is based on the shipbuilding science of the Moors.

Crackkker J Edgar Hoover sporting the Moorish fez like they did in kemet
http://mindcontrolblackassassins.files.wordpr...

president Truman
http://moorishsociety.com/wp-content/uploads/... .

The last king of Hawaii, wearing his Fez.
http://moorishsociety.com/wp-content/uploads/...

Origin of the Word Mason Quran 15:26 "Masn" Arabic word meaning "to fashion into shape (build) Allah "masn(fashioned (Adaam) into shape)from "hamaa" which means a Black substance (cosmic melanin dark matter, dark energy space)

The Hidden Moorish Islamic Influence on American culture
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Since the Moors were defeated in 1492, Europeans and their descendants have embarked upon a historical revenge against all dark brown skinned people, including Africans.
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Porcelain statues of a Moorish man and woman, found in the European Sculpture and Decorative Arts collection at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Not currently on display. Made in France, c.1840. From the estate of Jacob Petit.

http://moorishsociety.com/wp-content/uploads/...

White masons refer to themselves as "Moslem sons".written on fez of this white mason says "Islam"
http://rvbeypublications.com/sitebuilderconte...
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The Berbers (Moors), like the Arabs, were very fond of Turkish women, they kept their Harems well stocked with them.

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...

The Alhambra (Calat Alhambra, "the red fortress"), is a palace and fortress complex constructed during the mid 14th century by the Moorish rulers of Al-Andalus
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...

moorish cheifton
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancien...

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trollslayer wrote:
Berber were Black , Almoravids were Black
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Exactly. Berber male lineages are North East African derived from the indigenous E haplogroups that originated in Africa sharing ancestry with East African haplogroups at an Eb level and West Africans at an Ea level.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_...

Whites where slaves to Berbers
only a few centuries ago that Europeans visiting North Africa wrote that,“on almost every street of the cities of Barbary, Europeans could be seen harnessed to carts like draught horses or selling water from jars loaded on the backs of donkeys”.

1809 Commentary on those called “Moors” by an early 19th century observer:“They carry the Christian captives(whites) about the desert to the different markets to sell them"
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African AE wrote:
<quoted text>DUMB B*TCH THESE ARE MODERN MOORS:
www.youtube.com/watch...
How the hell did these pitch black Moors all turn white in 500 years when AA slaves didnt turn white ??????????hmmmmmmmmmyou dumb b*tch? Those men look exactly like the Spanish. Spanish have less than 2% black African DNA! Go figure dumbo!
The answer to this is simple... racism/colorism. Some things you should understand about that time period is the Moors/Black Africans were often at odds with Arabs. Right after the initial conquering of Spain the black Africans were warring with the Arabs over land and etc. The Arabs (some of them) also held negative perceptions of Africans. So after the Moorish empire failed and the Arabs thoroughly overtook north Africa so did their mindset and pale skin became associated with status and etc.

That wasn't the case here in America, the relationship between the races took a different tone.
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Godbody wrote:
In ancient times, Europe was practically Northern Africa, because military and scientific knowledge was
controlled by Africans called Moors (pre-Christian and later Christian and Muslim).The Ethiopian Empire of 650 BC spread into Europe and introduced castle-building. Black African being elected to serve as a Mayor in Europe which
had been ruled by 18th Dynasty Black Africans in the Ancient Egyptian Empire of the New kingdom of 15th Century BC, the Roman Empire
27 BC–AD 476 (West); 1453 (East) and the Black African Nobility of Medieval Europe.
This is the sculpture of Princess Meritaten, daugther of Pharoah Akhenaten and Queen Nefertiti, who sailed away in political exile,
to Ireland sometime between 1400 to 1350 BC to become Princess Scotia, after whom Scotland is named.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
The majority of the Moors were WHITE BERBERS!!!!!!!!!!MODERN MOORS:
www.youtube.com/watch...
Afronazis how did the Moors turn white in 500 years??????Chameleons?????
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Godbody wrote:
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Exactly. Berber male lineages are North East African derived from the indigenous E haplogroups that originated in Africa sharing ancestry with East African haplogroups at an Eb level and West Africans at an Ea level.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_...
Whites where slaves to Berbers
only a few centuries ago that Europeans visiting North Africa wrote that,“on almost every street of the cities of Barbary, Europeans could be seen harnessed to carts like draught horses or selling water from jars loaded on the backs of donkeys”.
1809 Commentary on those called “Moors” by an early 19th century observer:“They carry the Christian captives(whites) about the desert to the different markets to sell them"
WHITE BERBER DO NOT CARRY ETHIOPIAN DNA but a subclave, thats why they LOOK NOTHING LIKE ETHIOPIANS!!!!!!!Do they look like Ethiopians:
www.youtube.com/watch...
They carry INDIGENOUS North African DNA!
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African AE wrote:
<quoted text>WHITE BERBER DO NOT CARRY ETHIOPIAN DNA but a subclave, thats why they LOOK NOTHING LIKE ETHIOPIANS!!!!!!!Do they look like Ethiopians:
www.youtube.com/watch...
They carry INDIGENOUS North African DNA!
There are no indiginous white africans.Those johny come lately berbers are from invaders.
so many arabs migrated to north Africa and influenced the society for example the Alaouite royal family of morocco were from arabia The Fihrids like Fatima alfhir etc

image of Abu Bakre
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images...

Original berber(Lamtuna tribe)
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images...

The Lamtuna were pretty much wiped out by the late 17th century, as a result of heavy Arabization (by invading peninsular tribes),

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