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#485 Mar 6, 2014
Tyrone wrote:
<quoted text>Look at the comments below the aritcle Not one of the people there agree with the admins post, and to be honest i couldn't care less is she was with a black man, im still not "praising" her.
I don't believe people should be put on a pedestal to begin with.

Only God is to be exalted.

I merely posted the link to state that the article says Lupita is with a black man not a white man.
Tyrone

London, UK

#486 Mar 6, 2014
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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I don't believe people should be put on a pedestal to begin with.
Only God is to be exalted.
I merely posted the link to state that the article says Lupita is with a black man not a white man.
And like i said her being with a black man makes no diffrence to this topics title or what i wrote, i dont see anypoint in draging this on.
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#487 Mar 6, 2014
Anon wrote:
I'll be damned! First of all, you people are encouraging the jackal masquerading with two beaks to pick away at you. This is sad but true, cap iche? Anyway, I want to comment on something a Proud Sis wrote. This proud African lady is mandating that AAM should only show appreciation for AAW, and African men for African women? She obviously got an F in biology, and is lacking in the understanding of male instincts. Take away all of the trappings (language, color, traditions, etc) with which we are encumbered and we are left with flesh and blood controlled by the brain guided by sight and other senses. As a younger man, I was partial to backsides and boobs, and couldn't careless if the carrier was African, Caribbean or African American - female, of course. Wrt accomplishments, I was just as admiring of Winnie Mandela as I was of the widows of MLK and Malcolm X. I begrudge no one of their success, even though I share the belief that BP are allowed to succeed only if they play subservient roles. I wish Lupita all the best, and hope one day she will use her capital for the benefit of her people in Kenya. Make the money and hone your talents in the West girl, and take them home.
This isn't about biological attraction..... that is such a basic need/want....hence why no other group operate (*make decisions")..solely based upon it.....
There is not a woman or man alive that cannot trigger that instinct from other men & women...
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#488 Mar 6, 2014
Tyrone wrote:
http://cdn.necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploa...
She is not with a black man, people already know this,
Jared Leto is rumored to be having a serious crush on her, but they are not a couple.. she is said to be with a BM...
Tyrone wrote:
and If she a role model for black women then isnt it supposed to be black women that have to "praise her" not black men, I mean you dont see any black women making fourms to "praise" the director of 12 years a slave do you?.
It depends on what she is being "praised" for...I would imagine gender doesn't matter if she is being acknowledged for her talent & accomplishments.. I can also imagine that heretoseuxal men would reverends her beauty in ways that heterosexual women wouldn't.
Tyrone wrote:
In my own oppinion Black women only need black men when its nessasery and thats when its to raise their ego and when they are done, they throw them right under the bus again.
Black women on topix and other famous black women sites talk shit about black men all day and talk about how other races of men are much better (they even made a foum mocking travon martins death,) How do expect black men to praise black women when most black women have no respect for black men at all.
Respect is earned..it cannot be given or faked...It's an "innate" feeling towards men who has (provided & protected well)....and given the position of blacks around the world..BM need to redeem themselves in their own eyes and in the eyes of everyone else (including Black women and children).... I will also add that "disrespect" towards me shouldn't be..and it doesn't help the situation...but women cannot give or even fake respect for men who fail them...
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#489 Mar 6, 2014
* disrespect towards men
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#490 Mar 6, 2014
Enki wrote:
Well Black American Woman I knew it was gonna happen......
Those degrees and good jobs ain't enough huh? All of that education and career advancement starts to lose it's luster when you're not being promoted as the beauty standard.When you sit in beauty shops with your other accomplished ,educated girlfriends chatting it up about your latest promotion and your next field of study only to look up at the tele and see the WW being promoted and validated; it somehow cheapens your efforts.
Now the your men that have been utterly crushed by WS you look to blame them for you lack of promotion The men with whom in some ways you sold out for you elevated social position, you now expect them to "promote"you.Despite (due to the Faustian bargain you made with White America) he lacks the means to do so.
Look American Black Woman ,men promote their women when they are AHEAD of them, not when they are BEHIND them.
Interesting enough..I think you're the one who brought up Black Wal Street.....and that great success was due to AA men and women having professional degrees and great jobs...marrying each other and keeping their spending power (AA wealth) within their hands and the AA community before they even did international business during a time when many American Whites were struggling financially....now AAs have collectively a trillion dollar economic power (or will soon...so their is no lack of means in your hands) and have nothing to show for it (because of your own careless efforts to secure your AA wealth)... AA simply cannot afford to continue tearing each other down..it promotes the interest of others (as they grab your wealth via your wealthy people and leave the poor among you)..
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#491 Mar 6, 2014
Redefined wrote:
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Agree but we still have too address The AA Community. We cannot dwell on skin complexion forever. Eventually we will have to get past the negative stigma of dark-skin and start uplifting the AA community!
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Redefined wrote:
<quoted text>
Many AA's do reject this hence 'Black is Beautiful' BUT AA's should be PROMOTING AA Pride. This is MORE beneficial when it comes too uplifting The AA Community!
cosign :D
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#492 Mar 6, 2014
.*It's an "innate" feeling towards men who have (provided & protected well)
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#493 Mar 6, 2014
BMTxBMTx wrote:
<quoted text>
In which other threads have africans brought up WP praising Lupita therefore validate her beauty? It is AA making a big deal about Lupita's skin tone. Skin tone is AA tribalism. Most africans are amused when they see threads generating thousands of reponse, all focussed on her skin tone and hair.
I wanted to know which thread that was as well..I wanted to read that for myself..:)
whatever

Hyde Park, MA

#494 Mar 6, 2014
FlowFighter wrote:
<quoted text>
^^^^^^He's PLAINLY F'n the sh**t out of her ebony black african oh sooooooo beautiful dark skin midnight complexion az**zz.
no he is not in your head he is, this is the same crap you guys do to your women and make up lies and crap any way you can. To be honest I think you are spinning this lie after it has proven she is with a black african because you need to say something bad about her to make you sleep at night that she won a oscar that many of you thought she couldn't and white men like leto actually s taking a picture with her with no strings attach. Keep your AA slave white man rape IR mentality to your people, don't spread it to us cause no african men are preaching this crap. Get over it, Her man is black african, it's been proven enough. You are just trying to find something negative to say about her and it's starting to look pathetic. In african forums african amen and women are praising her and not bring this jared leto crap only you and race obsessed propaganda driven AA men as yourself.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-...
http://www.ghafla.co.ke/news/tv/item/16858-is...
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#495 Mar 6, 2014
Redefined wrote:
<quoted text>
This is TRUE however BLACKNESS does NOT define AA's since other groups are Black as well! AA Pride is MORE important. This is way AA's will focus MORE on AA's instead of other Nationalities of Blacks who most likely care more about their own Community as oppose too Blackness.
This should be the AA agenda...the advancement of the interest of AAs...
The Black race, imho, doesn't need one big melting pot of "Black mixtures"...that actually breeds weakness in the long run (because people find strength and form unbreakable bonds with likeness and relatability..such as shared cultures, history, customs, language,etc..You start to blur the lines..and it weakness those connections NEED for solidarity..)...
As a race..we need as many strong "off shot" groups as possible..THEN working together as friends & allies to make the collective body even strongER...
Tyrone

London, UK

#496 Mar 6, 2014
Lisa wrote:
<quoted text> Jared Leto is rumored to be having a serious crush on her, but they are not a couple.. she is said to be with a BM...
<quoted text>
It depends on what she is being "praised" for...I would imagine gender doesn't matter if she is being acknowledged for her talent & accomplishments.. I can also imagine that heretoseuxal men would reverends her beauty in ways that heterosexual women wouldn't.
<quoted text> Respect is earned..it cannot be given or faked...It's an "innate" feeling towards men who has (provided & protected well)....and given the position of blacks around the world..BM need to redeem themselves in their own eyes and in the eyes of everyone else (including Black women and children).... I will also add that "disrespect" towards me shouldn't be..and it doesn't help the situation...but women cannot give or even fake respect for men who fail them...
Still not getting it, just beacuse she is with a black man it does not change a thing, i couldent care if she was with bill gates, it just dont make a diffrence.

What do you mean gender doesn't matter? Yes it does, she is a black woman that won a oscar, which means she is a role model for black women not for black men, and what if black men arent attracted to her beauty or her personality? You can't tell them that they have to be attracted to her. and i dont see any black women trying to shame other black women for liking other races of men. In other words black men dont owe you anything.

Wait so if black men have failed to protect black women and children they why are you still looking for black mens praise, it woulden be worth anything right?
And what if she has not earned enough respect through black mens eyes?... Beause there have been plenty of women who have won alot more oscar than Lupita Nyong'o that arent even black... I guess that means black men shouldent have to respect or praise her at all.

Lets just admit if Lupita was not dark skinned, if she was the opposite i dont thing black women would have been interested at all.
Tyrone

London, UK

#497 Mar 6, 2014
think*
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#498 Mar 6, 2014
Capree wrote:
Dark skin black men with color complexes seem to be the only men who dislike dark skin black women. You can find some men from every other race who find dark skin black women beautiful and exotic and who want to get with them. Do you see the way the white guy looks at Lupita on those pictures?
Most dark skinned BW are with proud dark skinned BM (like Lupita's man or G. Union's man)...so most darker brothas can appreciate their reflection....
Unfortunately there is a lot of effeminate males (ranging from racist white males to self hating black males) who think it's perfectly normal to engage in "cat fighting" (which it is..if you're attacking women as if you're a jealous female..trying to pull social rank among males by debasing another group of females.) and still be manly...Masculinity is measured up against other men...and when a male attacks females (and doesn't feed her femininity)...it is always at the expense of his own masculinity..and he is looked upon as emasculated (by his on effort)
Osyrus

Chesapeake, VA

#499 Mar 6, 2014
She's a ugly black bitch and nobody is drooling over this man-thing. White celebs who call something looking like her, anything other than s ugly is just being PC.
Tyrone

London, UK

#500 Mar 6, 2014
Osyrus wrote:
She's a ugly black bitch and nobody is drooling over this man-thing. White celebs who call something looking like her, anything other than s ugly is just being PC.
You need to STFU and GTFOH ive seen too many comments like this one, I might not look up to her but cussing here out like that is wrong. GTFOH with you're House N3gro Cooning ass self.
Enki

United States

#501 Mar 6, 2014
Lisa wrote:
<quoted text> Interesting enough..I think you're the one who brought up Black Wal Street.....and that great success was due to AA men and women having professional degrees and great jobs...marrying each other and keeping their spending power (AA wealth) within their hands and the AA community before they even did international business during a time when many American Whites were struggling financially....now AAs have collectively a trillion dollar economic power (or will soon...so their is no lack of means in your hands) and have nothing to show for it (because of your own careless efforts to secure your AA wealth)... AA simply cannot afford to continue tearing each other down..it promotes the interest of others (as they grab your wealth via your wealthy people and leave the poor among you)..
OK yes I did mention Black Wall Street and I also mentioned what happened to it..We can have 50 Trillion dollars and if we don't have MILITARY power to secure it the it will be taken from us..

Tell ya what Black American put ya lil trillion dollars together and "build" this thriving economic juggernaught.
Go ahead..Then watch as all of the sudden you"ll have this pandemic that will virtually wipe out everything you built..

lol..I was in the military..I know how the white Americans deals with economic threats.

Yes we can build Black Americans...just not here.
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#502 Mar 6, 2014
Tyrone wrote:
Still not getting it, just beacuse she is with a black man it does not change a thing, i couldent care if she was with bill gates, it just dont make a diffrence.
The facts need to be accurate though when making claims.
Tyrone wrote:
What do you mean gender doesn't matter? Yes it does, she is a black woman that won a oscar, which means she is a role model for black women not for black men,.
We're talking about "praise"...not role model....It's safe to assume..that all the WP who are praising her..probably don't see her as a role model for them (at least not for racially motivated reasons)..and the African men are probably praising her for her talent and accomplishment..and for pride and relatability for being African...and both genders have praised her for her beauty..
Tyrone wrote:
and what if black men arent attracted to her beauty or her personality? You can't tell them that they have to be attracted to her. and i dont see any black women trying to shame other black women for liking other races of men. In other words black men dont owe you anything.
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I do not believe anyone ever asked anyone else to be attracted to her beauty and personality...There aren't that many people interested in that type of dialogue anymore..it's dated..
Tyrone wrote:
Wait so if black men have failed to protect black women and children they why are you still looking for black mens praise, it woulden be worth anything right?.
Praise is needed for heterosexual attraction...it feeds femininity and femininity feeds masculinity...they go hand in hand..
It's among the main tools BM use to lure non-Black women to them..without it..I can imagine the decrease in heterosexual attraction for these women as well... Women need confirmation/affirmation of their womanhood..praise is just the door..but protection and provision which breeds respect is what builds strong relationships (for women), families, and communities.. Jewish women (like us all) were no different after the holocaust..however...Jewish men quickly redeemed themselves, but regaining their own land and becoming a powerful world player.... AAM also did the same..with freeing their group from slavery and begin to establish themselves (and ongoing progression) without the promise 40 acres & a mule...so the past generations of AA (who are reverends around the world) earn respect (and got it from their women and children..as well as everyone else) because they accomplished a lot from "nothing"....What is not understand..is how the modern AAM has almost trillion dollars and is accomplishing very little and is undoing almost everything his forefathers died for...They sacrificed their lives so you would become a major socio-economic player to benefit you, your AAW, AA children, and AA community....and yet many of you willingly give away more than 50% of your wealth to other races (leaving the collective body of AAM, AAW, AA children..and community) in utter poverty.. You came to this " american racist dance" together (experiences the "same" amount of hate, struggles, and racism)..and as soon as you make it..you switch partners...a partner who has traditionally always had protection and provision...and to top things off..you even advocate hate towards your original partner...and you cannot seriously believe anyone in the world (including the partner who is willing to milk your resources dry) RESPECTS you?

Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#503 Mar 6, 2014
Tyrone wrote:
And what if she has not earned enough respect through black mens eyes?... Beause there have been plenty of women who have won alot more oscar than Lupita Nyong'o that arent even black... I guess that means black men shouldent have to respect or praise her at all.
Lets just admit if Lupita was not dark skinned, if she was the opposite i dont thing black women would have been interested at all.
Probably not..because light skinned BW have always got the acceptable approval..I personally believe it's in the Black interest to start to rebel..not continue to submit to a racial structure that doesn't benefit the majority of Black people who are dark....this thing is simple..
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#504 Mar 6, 2014
Enki wrote:
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OK yes I did mention Black Wall Street and I also mentioned what happened to it..We can have 50 Trillion dollars and if we don't have MILITARY power to secure it the it will be taken from us..
Tell ya what Black American put ya lil trillion dollars together and "build" this thriving economic juggernaught.
Go ahead..Then watch as all of the sudden you"ll have this pandemic that will virtually wipe out everything you built..
lol..I was in the military..I know how the white Americans deals with economic threats.
Yes we can build Black Americans...just not here.
I must say..I like these types of posts from you :)
and agree with everything you say above ..
My main thing..is knowing how White racist America is...why would any of you help them make it harder on any AA by promoting hate towards AA? At least have dignity enough to allow another AA to struggle with racism/hate without your help...
My other issue is why voluntary support a White racist structural by handing over your resources to them within relationships/marriage/and breeding? If they are going to continue to secure their interest...let them do it on their own..don't hand over your wealth in support of keeping them on top and then complain about the injustice..
But more importantly....I do hope to see the fighter that was once common in AA...one that has goals..make plans..and accomplish them..instead of accepting the current reality...
We are in agreement that White racist America (or other non-Blacks for that matter..as they not trying to occupy the bottom level either) is not going to "allow" (without heavy resistances) the racial social structural to change...but they are losing their grip anyway..with the ongoing progress of Asians (mainly Chinese) and others..
I personally believe AAs, ideally should become as Black as possible (return to their original West African phenotype) and maybe return back to the land and assimilate....the odds of that happening is slim (but much better, imho...than dissolving into white and other non black people or becoming a permanent underclass)...but most AA love their mixture (and history perhaps) and even racist America..to ever move... I can see them persevering their uniqueness as a separate black ethnic group.....but how and where they will be able to establish themselves in order to thrive is a question... America? Liberia?
Now...there is a problem with African immigrants remaining in the West after being educated (although I hear that inspite of being among the most educated peoples period..they aren't offered most of those jobs and are driving cabs and such) and not Returning to the land...so we have a lot of BP who are just "lazy"...who want to enjoy the current benefits and opportunities the West offers and not wanting to lay the foundations NEEDED to establish the Black race.... Black Africa has benefit from those educated Africans who actually returned with that knowledge to help Africa and it's people..

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