Baby Names..... Your take

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#165 Oct 24, 2013
Hugo, Sterling, and Chandler

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#166 Oct 24, 2013
Silverness wrote:
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Very true. People like to talk as if they know African culture but all they want is to dictate to Africans what they should or should not do. If an African couple wants their children to have European or Asian names so be it, it's their family, their children! Truth is in rural and at times even urban Africa, mothers don't get to name their children, the Fathers mother (Grandmother) does it. She is justified by culture to because these children have the Fathers blood, in Africa mother has been "acquired" (for lack of a better word) to belong to her husbands family through lobola. She is no longer her fathers child but her husbands wife and her kids belong to her husband. That is the culture in MOST parts of Africa.
so now that you're a european and no longer an african, why are you still practicing lobola? don't you think you should now act like a european woman and demand the same treatment as a european woman? you should tell those around you "i'm a european woman, i demand to be treated like one!"

how are you gonna toss your kids african identity out the window then at the same time use the excuse that you're just following african tradition?

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#167 Oct 24, 2013
Redefined wrote:
HMMM
-Amani
-Taraji
-Yodi
-Meechi
-Leola
I love Meechi...my sister, Michelle went with Mike for a while and hated Shell....lol....Pareen is another name, that sounded good....

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#168 Oct 24, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
<quoted text>so now that you're a european and no longer an african, why are you still practicing lobola? don't you think you should now act like a european woman and demand the same treatment as a european woman? you should tell those around you "i'm a european woman, i demand to be treated like one!"
how are you gonna toss your kids african identity out the window then at the same time use the excuse that you're just following african tradition?
I think you misunderstood. An African woman takes her husbands heritage and name only after he pays lobola. The lobola ceremony is the one which makes her so, they (her husband, his best friend, brother and uncles) pay her family a dowry for looking after her, educating her and for the future children she will bear for him and then her fathers sister (AUNT) escorts her to her husbands family and leaves her there. In true African culture it is then that she first sleeps with her husband because traditionally she is already his... however, nowadays these youngsters either wait for a Christian wedding or have already slept with their men.

“Creole Coated!”

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#169 Oct 24, 2013
Silverness wrote:
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Very true. People like to talk as if they know African culture but all they want is to dictate to Africans what they should or should not do. If an African couple wants their children to have European or Asian names so be it, it's their family, their children! Truth is in rural and at times even urban Africa, mothers don't get to name their children, the Fathers mother (Grandmother) does it. She is justified by culture to because these children have the Fathers blood, in Africa mother has been "acquired" (for lack of a better word) to belong to her husbands family through lobola. She is no longer her fathers child but her husbands wife and her kids belong to her husband. That is the culture in MOST parts of Africa.
You will have to forgive some of the Americans..some really insist on the women who are known as Black to carry on the Black racial identity (of BM..as culture belongs to the man not women)even if said woman who is currently labelled Black has given her womb to a man of another race....yet the father of said child can not rightfully claim his lineage...<SMH>

Although the same American would probably name their own biracial child/ren with foreign (Asian names for example)names in submission to the woman's culture/tradition..very unseemly to most...
However..bi-racially mixed children who are not African,Black or Asian could slightly feel uncomfortable with traditional African, Black, and Asian names..

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#170 Oct 24, 2013
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
Hugo, Sterling, and Chandler
Sterling sounds perfect for a baby dude.

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#171 Oct 24, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
<quoted text>so now that you're a european and no longer an african, why are you still practicing lobola? don't you think you should now act like a european woman and demand the same treatment as a european woman? you should tell those around you "i'm a european woman, i demand to be treated like one!"
how are you gonna toss your kids african identity out the window then at the same time use the excuse that you're just following african tradition?
The African tradition is a woman is no longer of her father's identity when she takes on a husband..an African woman's generational identity from that point of belongs to her husband (hence the taken on his last name as well as every child she bears for him..and what's the problem really..if the kids take on a man's "racial" last name..they can take on the first as well)...if an African woman wants to continue African identity she marries African....did the OP not just explain that..though her mother was also African (from another part)..it was disregarded..and she identified with her father's African side..
And the argument isn't about her being African...it's about her children..who will not be African..they would be of their dad..I'm sure you wouldn't have taken issue if the dad was AA..and she then follow the submission..of her children becoming AA...

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#172 Oct 24, 2013
Angel Ronnie wrote:
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I think you misunderstood. An African woman takes her husbands heritage and name only after he pays lobola. The lobola ceremony is the one which makes her so, they (her husband, his best friend, brother and uncles) pay her family a dowry for looking after her, educating her and for the future children she will bear for him and then her fathers sister (AUNT) escorts her to her husbands family and leaves her there. In true African culture it is then that she first sleeps with her husband because traditionally she is already his... however, nowadays these youngsters either wait for a Christian wedding or have already slept with their men.
That was helpful :)
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#173 Oct 24, 2013
* For example:
Russell Simmons disregarded his AA identity "completely" as a man and his children took the names of his ex-wife culture... Ming Lee & Aoki Lee...sounds like daughters of Asian men anot an AA man
<SMH>
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#174 Oct 24, 2013
*and not an AA man

“Repent and worship God”

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#175 Oct 24, 2013
Angel Ronnie wrote:
<quoted text>Sterling sounds perfect for a baby dude.
I concur.
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#176 Oct 24, 2013
My question is why do some want women who identify as Black to carry the BM's culture when she gives her womb to a non-BM...yet don't require/demand a non-BW who gives her womb to a BM to secure his culture? Why are some BM submitting to a woman's culture..allowing their children to take on names/etc...that belong to other men? I thought a woman who attach herself to you (for your provision & protection)is suppose to make sure YOUR culture & identity (not hers or those of race of men)survive (and thrive) in the world?

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#177 Oct 24, 2013
Proud Sis wrote:
<quoted text>The African tradition is a woman is no longer of her father's identity when she takes on a husband..an African woman's generational identity from that point of belongs to her husband (hence the taken on his last name as well as every child she bears for him..and what's the problem really..if the kids take on a man's "racial" last name..they can take on the first as well)...if an African woman wants to continue African identity she marries African....did the OP not just explain that..though her mother was also African (from another part)..it was disregarded..and she identified with her father's African side..
And the argument isn't about her being African...it's about her children..who will not be African..they would be of their dad..I'm sure you wouldn't have taken issue if the dad was AA..and she then follow the submission..of her children becoming AA...
Perfect explanation. If her children take her husbands last name why can't they take a first name that identifies with him as well? And on top of that she will not only take his name as well but live in his country and be a citizen of that country! I mean come on, where exactly is there any wrong doing here? Would YOU as a man want your children to leave YOUR heritage as their father and take their mothers heritage? If yes, then you are way too much of a submissive man... Man up!

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#178 Oct 24, 2013
Lisa wrote:
My question is why do some want women who identify as Black to carry the BM's culture when she gives her womb to a non-BM...yet don't require/demand a non-BW who gives her womb to a BM to secure his culture? Why are some BM submitting to a woman's culture..allowing their children to take on names/etc...that belong to other men? I thought a woman who attach herself to you (for your provision & protection)is suppose to make sure YOUR culture & identity (not hers or those of race of men)survive (and thrive) in the world?
I think African women usually marry and be with men for love and acceptance. The moment you propose to an African woman, know that she will be yours body mind and soul. There are many denominations of churches in Africa, if an Anglican girl marries a Lutheran man she will change and become Lutheran, she will truly be yours and your children will speak your language and everything. That is why African women love the boy child, he will be with her forever and bear future grandchildren to keep her company... whereas daughters get married and leave just the way she did.
Now white women (some not all) will marry you, but want their culture to be the norm in the house. YOU will be completely disregarded and the child won't even know anything about their heritage. Look at Obama- at what age did he start to actually fin himself? Remember I said not all but most.
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#179 Oct 24, 2013
Angel Ronnie wrote:
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Perfect explanation. If her children take her husbands last name why can't they take a first name that identifies with him as well? And on top of that she will not only take his name as well but live in his country and be a citizen of that country! I mean come on, where exactly is there any wrong doing here?
A biracial kid with an African name in a White country with a White dad..that sounds intelligent LOL
Angel Ronnie wrote:
Would YOU as a man want your children to leave YOUR heritage as their father and take their mothers heritage? If yes, then you are way too much of a submissive man... Man up!
hahaha..exactly..What "Alpha" man is going to submit to a woman's heritage (actually her father's heritage..where she got it from...so it would be submitting to another man's heritage)and allow HIS children to take on the identify of other men? It's just ridiculous....

squeezers

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#180 Oct 24, 2013
"Jambo"
Sam I Am

United States

#181 Oct 24, 2013
Silverness wrote:
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Very true. People like to talk as if they know African culture but all they want is to dictate to Africans what they should or should not do. If an African couple wants their children to have European or Asian names so be it, it's their family, their children! Truth is in rural and at times even urban Africa, mothers don't get to name their children, the Fathers mother (Grandmother) does it. She is justified by culture to because these children have the Fathers blood, in Africa mother has been "acquired" (for lack of a better word) to belong to her husbands family through lobola. She is no longer her fathers child but her husbands wife and her kids belong to her husband. That is the culture in MOST parts of Africa.
For some reason I have to believe we can get along just fine without any culture that came from blacks. I can see black culture running in gangs killing, Raping, stealing everything they can get their hand on, Spray paint on every wall and building in the areas where they live. over flowing our jails and prison, welfare, food stamps and the list goes on and on. At the cost of millions and millions of dollars put on the hard working taxpayers. Yes we can see the black culture hard at work in America.
Lisa

Tulsa, OK

#182 Oct 24, 2013
Angel Ronnie wrote:
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I think African women usually marry and be with men for love and acceptance. The moment you propose to an African woman, know that she will be yours body mind and soul. There are many denominations of churches in Africa, if an Anglican girl marries a Lutheran man she will change and become Lutheran, she will truly be yours and your children will speak your language and everything. That is why African women love the boy child, he will be with her forever and bear future grandchildren to keep her company... whereas daughters get married and leave just the way she did.
Now white women (some not all) will marry you, but want their culture to be the norm in the house. YOU will be completely disregarded and the child won't even know anything about their heritage. Look at Obama- at what age did he start to actually fin himself? Remember I said not all but most.
Excellent post...are you African?

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#183 Oct 24, 2013
Lisa wrote:
<quoted text> A biracial kid with an African name in a White country with a White dad..that sounds intelligent LOL
<quoted text>hahaha..exactly..What "Alpha" man is going to submit to a woman's heritage (actually her father's heritage..where she got it from...so it would be submitting to another man's heritage)and allow HIS children to take on the identify of other men? It's just ridiculous....
Thank you. I had not thought of that! This guy wants this white man and his children to leave his own heritage and take on his wife's fathers heritage... I bet you her African father will tell her to dump him if he can't be man, might as well be a lesbian.

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#184 Oct 24, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
<quoted text>For some reason I have to believe we can get along just fine without any culture that came from blacks. I can see black culture running in gangs killing, Raping, stealing everything they can get their hand on, Spray paint on every wall and building in the areas where they live. over flowing our jails and prison, welfare, food stamps and the list goes on and on. At the cost of millions and millions of dollars put on the hard working taxpayers. Yes we can see the black culture hard at work in America.
Are these Africans that you see doing this?

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