“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Level 8

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#1586 May 9, 2013
the boundaries of space wrote:
Throughout America, most angry black men - even some militants (i.e. the late Malcolm X)- would like to believe white women in general are in solidarity with them. In reality, even the black's own race of woman is barely in solidarity with them, let alone women of other races.
Before you mention Malcolm X you ought to study to find out what he was really about. It was hardly his position that "white women in general" are in solidarity with Black men. Nor was he particularly interested in such a superficial issue. Malcolm X and those "militants" you speak of had mainly more important issues on their minds....Issue probably beyond the reach of your shallow understanding.
the boundaries of space

Atlanta, GA

#1587 May 9, 2013
Look into Eldridge Cleaver's manifestos as well as the militant organization in the Eastwood movie "The Enforcer" [1976]- fictional but reflective of reality. Black males in America fear competition from their non-black counterparts (especially whites)- clearly seen both on and off the web. It's self-evident to the BM.
Matt

Dar Es Salaam, Tanzania, United Republic of

#1588 May 9, 2013
white women are truly racist more than white men but not all white women out there are racist.
the boundaries of space

Atlanta, GA

#1589 May 9, 2013
At least evident in America, black men don't want white, Hispanic, Italian, etc. men anywhere near the same room where a BM thinks he might have a chance with a non-black woman, especially attractive.

Many feel they have a slightly better chance above Asian men however, and therefore would feel less agitated in their presence. As harsh as it seems, we can only go where the proof takes us.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Level 8

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#1590 May 9, 2013
the boundaries of space wrote:
Look into Eldridge Cleaver's manifestos as well as the militant organization in the Eastwood movie "The Enforcer" [1976]- fictional but reflective of reality. Black males in America fear competition from their non-black counterparts (especially whites)- clearly seen both on and off the web. It's self-evident to the BM.
If you've read the Ten Point Program of the Black Panther Party, or any given collection of their speeches or writings, you will see that for the them the struggle was for political and economic self-determination for the Black community. The struggle was against racism and capitalist economic self-determination. And as much as I have my issues with Eldridge Cleaver, I can say that he does not argue (as "boundaries" stupidly believes) that white women are in solidarity with black men. In fact, any LITERATE person who reads SOUL ON ICE ought to know that he's concerned about the extent to which Blacks are indocrtinated by white or Eurocentric values to the extent that many find white members of the opposite sex more appealing than men and women of their own black group. And while he explores this problem from his own perspective as a Black man, he leaves no doubt that Black women were also brainwashed with Eurocentric values as well.
Tonim Morrison, in THE BLUEST EYE, explores that same unhealthy psychological phenomenon from the perspective of a black girl.
As far as Clint Eastwood movies, I hardly regard them as being full of insight about psychosocial reality.
Does "boundaries" actually READ anything of substance when she speaks of the men and women who made the movements of the 1960s?
As far as IR relations, whether black men or women were involved, they were so rare in those days that an IR couple easily got stunned stares when they appeared in public.
People have more important issues on their minds in those days. IR relations were nowhere near the top of peoples list of priorities--not even if they approved of such relations.(And most people in thoss days DID NOT approve)
the boundaries of space

Atlanta, GA

#1591 May 9, 2013
Savant wrote:
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If you've read the Ten Point Program of the Black Panther Party, or any given collection of their speeches or writings, you will see that for the them the struggle was for political and economic self-determination for the Black community. The struggle was against racism and capitalist economic self-determination. And as much as I have my issues with Eldridge Cleaver, I can say that he does not argue (as "boundaries" stupidly believes) that white women are in solidarity with black men. In fact, any LITERATE person who reads SOUL ON ICE ought to know that he's concerned about the extent to which Blacks are indocrtinated by white or Eurocentric values to the extent that many find white members of the opposite sex more appealing than men and women of their own black group. And while he explores this problem from his own perspective as a Black man, he leaves no doubt that Black women were also brainwashed with Eurocentric values as well.
Tonim Morrison, in THE BLUEST EYE, explores that same unhealthy psychological phenomenon from the perspective of a black girl.
As far as Clint Eastwood movies, I hardly regard them as being full of insight about psychosocial reality.
Does "boundaries" actually READ anything of substance when she speaks of the men and women who made the movements of the 1960s?
As far as IR relations, whether black men or women were involved, they were so rare in those days that an IR couple easily got stunned stares when they appeared in public.
People have more important issues on their minds in those days. IR relations were nowhere near the top of peoples list of priorities--not even if they approved of such relations.(And most people in thoss days DID NOT approve)
The times and above-cited movie may be 35+ years ago but BM still feel the same even in 2013. Look at all the terroristic ideology proposed by Kamau Kambon - he's far from the only one and if this don't represent fear, I don't know what does. It's inconsistent sentiments of a group who propagandize they're "taking over everything".

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Level 8

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#1592 May 9, 2013
the boundaries of space wrote:
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The times and above-cited movie may be 35+ years ago but BM still feel the same even in 2013. Look at all the terroristic ideology proposed by Kamau Kambon - he's far from the only one and if this don't represent fear, I don't know what does. It's inconsistent sentiments of a group who propagandize they're "taking over everything".
So it seems you get your information about reality from movies. Now I see why you're so confused. And in terms of the 1960s Movements, what significance has this Kamau Kambon.
Mention the name of Malcolm X, Bobby Seale, Angela Davis, Stokely Carmichael, and folk with even average amounts of koowledge (if they have knowledge) of the 1960s, will at least know the reference.
Frankly, you were not likely around and you've studied NOTHING. Can you name the most prominent "militants" of the 1960s who held that white women were in solidarity with Black men. Which books, articles, journals, or other original sources did you get this from. Dumb Hollywood movies (which have turned many minds to jello) hardly counts a reliable source of anything.
the boundaries of space

Atlanta, GA

#1593 Jun 8, 2013
Even during Georgia's Kendrick Johnson protests, most angry blacks were willing to allow participation of any white female who wanted to attend, though were more than ready to congregate and physically jump on any white male within vicinity, even when he supported their cause.

Is this indicative that most blacks are believe (erroneously) most white women are in solidarity with them?....or that they're generally bitter and envious towards most white men? The evidence speaks for itself.

Level 8

Since: May 08

Pacific Northwest

#1594 Jun 8, 2013
the boundaries of space wrote:
Even during Georgia's Kendrick Johnson protests, most angry blacks were willing to allow participation of any white female who wanted to attend, though were more than ready to congregate and physically jump on any white male within vicinity, even when he supported their cause.

Is this indicative that most blacks believe (erroneously) most white women are in solidarity with them?....
No, it indicates that many blacks believe (truthfully) that white women generally have a friendlier and less lethal demeanor towards black men. I repeat: Not ALL white women - but many.

This is why survey data indicates that:

(1) 24 percent of White women have dated a Black man

(2) 37 percent of White women have been sexually intimate with a Black man - with an additional 16% being open to it

(3) 42 percent of White women voters voted for President Obama in 2012

(4) 46 percent of White women voters voted for President Obama in 2008
the boundaries of space

Atlanta, GA

#1595 Jun 8, 2013
During the Michelle Obama heckling incident, most angry blacks were comparatively silent, once it came to attention the heckler was a woman as most blacks believe most women, including white, are in solidarity with them.

If the heckler was a non-black, there'd be more noise all over the forum. Same deal for the recent ricin case dominating the news. BM become rather disappointed upon such revelations. They now begin to wonder if their confidence or "trust" is misplaced.
Masud_S_Hoghughi __

London, UK

#1596 Jun 8, 2013
the boundaries of space wrote:
Even during Georgia's Kendrick Johnson protests, most angry blacks were willing to allow participation of any white female who wanted to attend, though were more than ready to congregate and physically jump on any white male within vicinity, even when he supported their cause.
Is this indicative that most blacks are believe (erroneously) most white women are in solidarity with them?....or that they're generally bitter and envious towards most white men? The evidence speaks for itself.
...kneegrows also erroneously believe that other non-whites r in solidarity with them........
The African Queen

United States

#1597 Jun 8, 2013
denita d wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you,I knew you were an African man.AA men are not this smart.I agree with you 100%,The hand that rocks the cradle is the hand that rules the world.
AA men will sell their soul to the devil for a white woman.He can forgive and forget all of the murder,public lynchings and hate that white women are responsible for.But let his own woman make one mistake, and he will hold it against her for life.
AA men never acknowledge the part white women play in the rearing of her racist children.He blames it all on the white man.
Great thread and very true.
I have to agree with denita d. Only an African man and a well esteemed (Malcolm X) type of African American man will be able to figure this out. It was and is the white women teaching their kids to be racists and no other African American man can deny this or refute this. It is the truth
the boundaries of space

Atlanta, GA

#1598 Jun 8, 2013
Further suggested exploration and discussion correlated to the subject -

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TT0NG0GGRAQBQ...

Level 8

Since: May 08

Pacific Northwest

#1599 Jun 8, 2013
the boundaries of space wrote:
During the Michelle Obama heckling incident, most angry blacks were comparatively silent, once it came to attention the heckler was a woman as most blacks believe most women, including white, are in solidarity with them....
Intelligent black observers understand that the African-American community is intensely homophobic and that President Obama's support for the LGBT community has been, at times, halting and unenthusiastic. Therefore it is quite understandable that a white woman lesbian would be openly disaffected with the Obamas - and willing to show it in a public setting.

Level 2

Since: Jun 13

Houston, TX

#1600 Jun 8, 2013
Masud_S_Hoghughi is a smelly Indian, nobody likes them either. They smell like poop and the men are very feminine with poor bodies. Indians have many often darker skin than some African Americans and I. I don't know why they hate Blacks when its known that they rather choose a light skinned Mulatto over a retarded poop colored poop smelled Indian

“New year New you”

Level 5

Since: Jan 12

alright alright.....

#1601 Jun 8, 2013
lol brown sugar that was so sophomoric but funny as hell nonetheless... Because it's kinda true. Indians have their caste systems and the older generations smell musty not poopy haha
Masud_S_Hoghughi __

London, UK

#1602 Jun 8, 2013
ISW__REBORN wrote:
lol brown sugar that was so sophomoric but funny as hell nonetheless... Because it's kinda true. Indians have their caste systems and the older generations smell musty not poopy haha
simple things please simple minds.........

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#1603 Jun 8, 2013
No one can beat our "raysisum", not even white women. We make crybabies out of almost every non-white, it is absolute genius. Just our very existence offends them, that's how "raysis" we are.

It's indeed very special to be a white man in this world... People have a different opinion about you every single day, whatever fits their agenda. But one thing remains clear: basically they like our world, with all the free stuff and speech, but they don't want us in it... They want us dead. Many white men know what I'm talking about.

White women can't be this "raysis", trust me... Many white women are very kind and naive... While the men see through BS within seconds, the females and the effeminate leftards believe they can change these hopeless people who cry "raysisum" if they can't take a dump or don't know what 1+1 is.
AnObs

Roswell, GA

#1606 Jun 8, 2013
xbrownsugarx wrote:
Masud_S_Hoghughi is a smelly Indian, nobody likes them either. They smell like poop and the men are very feminine with poor bodies. Indians have many often darker skin than some African Americans and I. I don't know why they hate Blacks when its known that they rather choose a light skinned Mulatto over a retarded poop colored poop smelled Indian
Preach! The truth needs to be told.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Level 8

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#1607 Jun 9, 2013
EVIDENCE?

What EVIDENCE do we have that white women are MORE racist than white men?
And how is this meant? Do you mean that a larger percentage of white women than men are racist?
If so, how do you know this? What PROOF do you have?
Or maybe you mean that racist white women are more intensely racist than racist white men.
If so, what evidence do you have for that?

In my own experience, I find that whites are are racist don't seem to differ along gender lines.
Maybe there are gendered differences in the STYLE in which men and women express their racism. But I've no evidence that one is more racist than the other?

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