Well I had to use all those examples to show that your claim about bm with women is false. Women are attracted to success so if bm are becoming more successful in all areas how does that translate into us struggling with women?<quoted text>I said with women..the above is off-topic
<quoted text>we agree on BW..so that's that..
IR relationships/marriage for BM isn't the struggle...I said "long term"..BM's IR divorce is very high..You may be attracting them, but not keeping them..building solid marriages and families..the same issues or failures are plaguing your IR as it did with BW. This wasn't true in the past. BM had better marriages with both Black and WW in the past. This is a known fact.
As far as in the long term with families etc. well I'm hearing that the country as a whole is facing that issue. What with divorce rates of over 60% you simply cant say it's a bm issue. And it takes two to make a marriage work so it's as much the womens issue as the mens.
I agree that in the past it wasnt so much of an issue but also in the past people were more religious and community minded. The population was also smaller.