"The Butler"
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#1 Aug 18, 2013
I saw the movie "The Butler". I take my hat off to Forrest Whitaker and Ophra Winfrey...who I seldom have anything good to say about (I'm speaking of Ophra). Ophra played that role to a T. The movie kept my attention the whole time, because it touch upon events from the past up to the election of the first black president.

I identified with the movie because, I like so many of us, have worked with men with The Butler mentality. He kept his mouth shut and went along to get along to take care of his family, which spoiled his relationship with his oldest son who stood up for what was right, including the sit-ins, joining the black panther party and more.

I'm not comparing The Butler character to the Stephen character from Django, so I'm not downing him. In fact he had the personality of my best friend who died in 911...who everybody liked. Everybody liked the Butler too, including all his bosses (the Presidents). But he wouldn't take a stand against racism because of the horrors he seen happen to people from the past who stood up. This wasn't uncommon back then, and it still isn't today. But he finally took a stand later on.

He wasn't a hero in the movie by far, the same way a lot of us aren't heroes in real life either when it comes to standing up for others. He like my deceased best friend, had the personality that just knew how to stay out of conflict. He wasn't a punk, but he wasn't a fighter either, however he would protect his family...and everybody loved him. What finally woke the Butler up was Reagan striking down all the gains won by the civil rights era. This was when he finally recognized his son was the real hero over the years, and he finally tracked him down.

That was the part of the movie I could relate to. I remember how I stood strong, meanwhile there was this older co-worker, some what with the Butler mentality, who pretty much wrote me off for standing up against white folks. He fought his little battles, however they where mainly for himself. But he would always make sure the white man couldn't accuse him of going along with any black organizations. This is the same thing that was taught to the Bulter. They called it their way of getting a head. But when it was all said and done, he sounded so much like the Butler, realizing he had being wrong about the things pertaining to how I stood up for what was right, the same way the Butler wrote his son off for standing up against the system.

Every now and then I'll get a chain email from my old co-worker who still works there. The emails pertain to things like how corrupted the tax system is, something he tried to kick my teeth out for when I told him I stood up against the IRS years ago. Then the economy began to collapse. However he sounded like he still had some of that, "you got to go along with the white man" mentality. I know the election of Obama literally blew his mind, and it probably brought him down from that a little, but not all the way, knowing him. But since they began talking about these furloughs, and since they went into effect, I haven't received an email from him sense. So much for thinking the white man is God. He didn't have much faith in God, which was kind of unusual for an older guy. At least the Butler always had faith, and so did my deceased best friend.

I guess what was so different about this movie was, it told the story of men who thought like the Butler, my late best friend, and my older co-worker. That's rare to hear the story of the one's that aren't the heroes. However we all could relate to them in one way or another. And Oprah play that role of the mature aged wife back in the day to a T. She wasn't perfect, but she stuck by her man until the end.

The movie left us all feeling a strong sense of unity. But there was one thing wrong. Although the movie ended with the election of Barack Obama giving the movie a happy ending, in real life we know what's been happening to black rights since his election.
LION

Charlotte, NC

#2 Aug 18, 2013
I would love to see a movie about BLACK WALL STREET (1921)!
LION

Charlotte, NC

#3 Aug 18, 2013
any blacks going to support a black owned bank this week?

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#4 Aug 18, 2013
I appreciate your view of the movie, for one. I myself never watch movies concerning maids, butlers or anything to do with blacks being betrayed as such.
I use to, don't get me wrong. But I just get sick of those betrayals of us looking so unworthy. Many many blacks fought and died because they refused to settle for the house N promotion or refused to stand by and allow big headed white folk use and abe them like dogs.

Ever wonder why they don't detail how blacks really resisted during those times? They are quick to show you shallow over comings but they won't show us or portray the blood raw reality of what blacks did to defend themselves against whites in those days.

We as blacks face set backs because we set ourselves back in more ways than one.
LION

Charlotte, NC

#5 Aug 18, 2013
JustdroppedIN wrote:
I appreciate your view of the movie, for one. I myself never watch movies concerning maids, butlers or anything to do with blacks being betrayed as such.
I use to, don't get me wrong. But I just get sick of those betrayals of us looking so unworthy. Many many blacks fought and died because they refused to settle for the house N promotion or refused to stand by and allow big headed white folk use and abe them like dogs.
Ever wonder why they don't detail how blacks really resisted during those times? They are quick to show you shallow over comings but they won't show us or portray the blood raw reality of what blacks did to defend themselves against whites in those days.
We as blacks face set backs because we set ourselves back in more ways than one.
Beautifully said. That is why a BLACK WALL STREET movie must be done. Those blacks fought like hell.
LION

Charlotte, NC

#6 Aug 18, 2013
We also need to do movies about the moors, nubia, African martial arts, etc.
When it comes to black movies, we are still stuck in a box.

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#7 Aug 18, 2013
JustdroppedIN wrote:
I appreciate your view of the movie, for one. I myself never watch movies concerning maids, butlers or anything to do with blacks being betrayed as such.
I use to, don't get me wrong. But I just get sick of those betrayals of us looking so unworthy. Many many blacks fought and died because they refused to settle for the house N promotion or refused to stand by and allow big headed white folk use and abe them like dogs.
Ever wonder why they don't detail how blacks really resisted during those times? They are quick to show you shallow over comings but they won't show us or portray the blood raw reality of what blacks did to defend themselves against whites in those days.
We as blacks face set backs because we set ourselves back in more ways than one.
I understand what you're saying, and I didn't see "The Help" for that same reason. I may change my mind. But if it has something to do with some black maid being a white mans bed winch, lover, or whatever, you can forget it.

What made the Butler different was it showed major events that happened in the 50's, and in the early 60's when I was born, and how it affected the white house, and how presidents really talked about us in the white house. I read somewhere that President Johnson even gave briefings from the toilet, and it included that along with his constant used of the n-word, and a lot of things I read, which were actually true.

The movie didn't make me focus on the butler, but instead gave me an insight of all the things this black butler seen in 30 years of decisions being made that affected our lives as black people and a country, before most white people even knew.

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#8 Aug 18, 2013
KPITRL wrote:
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I understand what you're saying, and I didn't see "The Help" for that same reason. I may change my mind. But if it has something to do with some black maid being a white mans bed winch, lover, or whatever, you can forget it.
What made the Butler different was it showed major events that happened in the 50's, and in the early 60's when I was born, and how it affected the white house, and how presidents really talked about us in the white house. I read somewhere that President Johnson even gave briefings from the toilet, and it included that along with his constant used of the n-word, and a lot of things I read, which were actually true.
The movie didn't make me focus on the butler, but instead gave me an insight of all the things this black butler seen in 30 years of decisions being made that affected our lives as black people and a country, before most white people even knew.
Your insight alone takes away my skepticle feelings about the movie, I "might" give it a shot and I might not, who knows. One thing is for sure, I do take great interest in finding out the behind the closed doors converstaions that so many self righteous and superior minded whites tend to deny ever were spoken. Forrest is a great actor and I do admire his ability to fall into every role he plays, Oprah and I have our moments and I'll leave it at that.

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#9 Aug 19, 2013
LION wrote:
I would love to see a movie about BLACK WALL STREET (1921)!
I agree.
I would like to see a movie on Ida B Wells,The Haitian Revolution, The Christian Nubian civilization, Mansa Musa, Kafur, and Madame CJ Walker.

GrouchoMarxist

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#10 Aug 19, 2013
LION wrote:
We also need to do movies about the moors, nubia, African martial arts, etc.
When it comes to black movies, we are still stuck in a box.
It takes a little more than a 500 dollar investment to make a movie.
You might need some white sponsors to pony up some cash for your new convulsion. I mean compulsion.

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#11 Aug 19, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>I agree.
I would like to see a movie on Ida B Wells,The Haitian Revolution, The Christian Nubian civilization, Mansa Musa, Kafur, and Madame CJ Walker.
Are you into film making?
Next

Miami, FL

#12 Aug 19, 2013
GrouchoMarxist wrote:
<quoted text>It takes a little more than a 500 dollar investment to make a movie.
You might need some white sponsors to pony up some cash for your new convulsion. I mean compulsion.
You would need white sponsors as well If you wanted to do the same.
Don't see your point. Unless you're just trying to be funny.
James Bomb

Athens, GA

#13 Aug 19, 2013
LION wrote:
We also need to do movies about the moors, nubia, African martial arts, etc.
When it comes to black movies, we are still stuck in a box.
The only problem Lion is that AA filmmakers keep going to whiteface to get the movie approved........

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#15 Aug 19, 2013
Anything, that has Forrest Whitaker in it. I would like to see it.

And I was eerie about the movie "The Help". My Mother still refuses to see.

But it was really good. I hope you guyz check it out.

Octavia Spencer making a chocolate pie out of her own schitt and served it to her ex employer.

Is a must see. Not something I could have done.

But it was funny.

“No Substitute For The Truth”

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Orlando, FL

#16 Aug 19, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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I agree.
I would like to see a movie on Ida B Wells,The Haitian Revolution, The Christian Nubian civilization, Mansa Musa, Kafur, and Madame CJ Walker.
Great Selections! Now I would LOVE to see movies like this....movies were Blacks are empowered. Enough with portraying Blacks in subservient roles. It's time for Hollywood to do something they have been avoiding for decades....highlighting Blacks who are empowered. Hollywood may show Blacks who are striving for empowerment but Hollywood NEVER highlight Blacks who are actually empowered like Nubians or Mansa Musa for example.

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#17 Aug 19, 2013
LION wrote:
I would love to see a movie about BLACK WALL STREET (1921)!
Me Too.

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#18 Aug 19, 2013
Redefined wrote:
<quoted text>Great Selections! Now I would LOVE to see movies like this....movies were Blacks are empowered. Enough with portraying Blacks in subservient roles. It's time for Hollywood to do something they have been avoiding for decades....highlighting Blacks who are empowered. Hollywood may show Blacks who are striving for empowerment but Hollywood NEVER highlight Blacks who are actually empowered like Nubians or Mansa Musa for example.
Why would Hollywood do that considering it does not serve their interests?

I believe it will take black filmmakers to engage in that endeavor with rich black financiers supporting the project.

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#19 Aug 19, 2013
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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Why would Hollywood do that considering it does not serve their interests?
I believe it will take black filmmakers to engage in that endeavor with rich black financiers supporting the project.
You may be right & I most def think Black filmmakers should do this.

GrouchoMarxist

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#20 Aug 19, 2013
Next wrote:
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You would need white sponsors as well If you wanted to do the same.
Don't see your point. Unless you're just trying to be funny.
Point wasn't FOR you, dopey....mind your own business.
(Unless, of course, you're a sock puppet and you want to fess up....hmmm?)

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#21 Aug 19, 2013
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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Are you into film making?
No, but hopefully I will become rich so that I can finance a film.

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