Africans discovered the AMERICA befor...
trollslayer

Midlothian, IL

#8299 Feb 9, 2013
Just mindless drivel. Never a link to outside evidence = troll. Truth=links

Scientific Evidence for Pre-Columbian Transoceanic Voyages to and from the Americas, part 1

http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/...
Barros Serrano

United States

#8300 Feb 9, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
Just mindless drivel. Never a link to outside evidence = troll. Truth=links
Scientific Evidence for Pre-Columbian Transoceanic Voyages to and from the Americas, part 1
http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/...
That's a MORMON source, you idiot.

LOL!!! Mormons, like Afronazis, harbor these idiotic beliefs in precolumbian contact.

Religious nuts.

And Afronazis.

What a combination.

Still no evidence, boy.
trollslayer

Midlothian, IL

#8301 Feb 9, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
The trolls still post NO outside LINKED data to refute this
http://www.bing.com/images/search...
or this....
Olmec Heads on Exhibit at San Francisco's
De Young Museum.....
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th ...
show us outside LINKED data ... words / OPINION mean NOTHING.
bump....the trolls NEVER bring linked data. So they try to tear down the truth. They run from the truth and lie.
trollslayer

Midlothian, IL

#8302 Feb 9, 2013
Study the data my non-troll friends. Unlike trolls I will always bring outside data. YOU draw your own conclusions. Remember only a troll deals in absolutes void of linked data. You will almost NEVER see a troll supply a LINK.

http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/display.php...
Barros Serrano

United States

#8303 Feb 10, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
Study the data my non-troll friends. Unlike trolls I will always bring outside data. YOU draw your own conclusions. Remember only a troll deals in absolutes void of linked data. You will almost NEVER see a troll supply a LINK.
http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/display.php...
You bring Afronazi nonsense, boy.

But you don't bring any of the following:

1. DNA
2. cultural artifacts
3. human remains
4. crops
5. boats
6. disease immunity

Absent ALL of that... there is no evidence for Africans in America.

To claim so is a culture-genocide crime against Native Americans.

The Olmecs were from soconusco... that is proven.

They were 100% Native American.
joben

United States

#8304 Feb 10, 2013
Looks like santos is ignoring the facts..smh
joben

United States

#8305 Feb 10, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
You bring Afronazi nonsense, boy.
But you don't bring any of the following:
1. DNA
2. cultural artifacts
3. human remains
4. crops
5. boats
6. disease immunity
Absent ALL of that... there is no evidence for Africans in America.
To claim so is a culture-genocide crime against Native Americans.
The Olmecs were from soconusco... that is proven.
They were 100% Native American.


The olmecs were of african descent. Theres people in Mexico that already aknowledge this, but they pushed it aside from mexicos history. The europeans tried to lighten mexico up. There are afro nexicans still in mexico who have been pushed to rural ereas.
Barros Serrano

United States

#8306 Feb 10, 2013
joben wrote:
<quoted text>
The olmecs were of african descent. Theres people in Mexico that already aknowledge this, but they pushed it aside from mexicos history. The europeans tried to lighten mexico up. There are afro nexicans still in mexico who have been pushed to rural ereas.
Wrong. It is proven that the Olmecs came from Soconuco. Afro-Mexicans arrived after 1492. The Spanish had African slaves in Mexico.

There is NO evidence for Africans pre-1492. To claim this is a RACIST CRIME against Native Americans, who are 100% responsible for every civilization in America. Europeans also tried to deny this, as you racist Afronazi bastard pigs are doing, but their attempts fall apart in the face of the evidence.

There were ZERO Africans in Mexico before Cortés, 1519. The civilizations there arose out of the prior farming cultures. This is proven. Early forms of giant stone heads have been found in Soconusco. There are no antecedents of any sort found in Africa.

GET your greasy grubby racist Afronazi paws off other peoples' histories...

...or you will pay for your racist crimes.
trollslayer

Hammond, IN

#8307 Feb 10, 2013
Olmec Heads on Exhibit at San Francisco's
De Young Museum.....yes my non-troll friends this is a real museum in S.F.
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th ...

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th

at first the trolls wanted to pretend the museum didn't exist. Now they're back to saying this head on a wall in La Venta doesn't exist.
Barros Serrano

United States

#8308 Feb 10, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
Olmec Heads on Exhibit at San Francisco's
De Young Museum.....yes my non-troll friends this is a real museum in S.F.
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th ...
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th
at first the trolls wanted to pretend the museum didn't exist. Now they're back to saying this head on a wall in La Venta doesn't exist.
That “museum” website is full of afronazi propaganda. No real museum would post that shit.

And that cartoonish “black” head does not exist. It is photoshopped.

The real Olmec heads look like Native Americans. That shouldn't surprise us, since the Olmecs came from Soconusco!

Afronazis have yet to be able to refute the solid archaeological evidence (posted by me of course) which confirms the Soconusco origin of the Olmecs.

Nor can they produce any real evidence, such as:

1. DNA
2. cultural artifacts
3. human remains
4. ships
5. crops
6. disease immunity

Sorry, you lose, Afronazi dimwits. There were NO Africans in America before 1492!
pathfinder

United States

#8311 Feb 11, 2013
Didnt think my ancestors were lost

Barros Serrano

United States

#8312 Feb 11, 2013
Another day, and still no way to counter the archaeological proof that the Olmecs were from soconusco? And still no:

1. DNA
2. human remains
3. cultural artifacts
4. crops
5. boats
6. disease immunity

this means that it is impossible that Africans were in America pre-1492. Simply could not have happened without any of that being left... especially disease immunity... yet in Mexico the Natives died like flies when exposed to the Spanish.

AFRONAZIS: get your greasy grubby racist cultish paws off other peoples' cultures!
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#8313 Feb 11, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
the truth can not hide
http://home.mindspring.com/~elevencats/sitebu...
Stone head from Veracruz, Mexico, Classic period, c. A.D. 900; American Museum of Natural History, New York
__________
"In 1939, Dr. Matthew Sterling led a joint team from the National Geographic Society into the Gulf of Mexico to spearhead a major digging operation in Vera Cruz to unearth the monolith heads. Sterling concluded:'The features are bold and amazingly Negroid in character.' In Monte' Alban, 140 [email protected] type figures have been discovered. Upon archaeological research, there is no logical denying of the '[email protected]' found in the art of ancient America."
Is Dr. Sterling a liar? DID so-called "afronuts" paying him off....lol
_________
" A recent study of pre-Columbian art in Latin America reveals that the African presence was profound. Although acknowledging the presence of Asiatic influences in pre-Columbian art, Alexander von Wuthenau, in The Art of Terracotta Pottery in Pre-Columbian Central and South America, is very firm about pervasive African influence.
Describing photographs of Olmec figurines contained in his book, von Wuthenau says,“The two [email protected] heads on page 48 are quite conspicuous. They prove that this racial type can be found nearly everywhere in ancient America.”26
Likewise, it should be kept in mind that Africans held positions of considerable importance in ancient American societies. It would thus be flying in the face of truth to deny the African presence in pre-Columbian America.
Von Wuthenau comments further:
The [email protected] element is the exception, but is well proven by the large Olmec stone monuments as well as the terracotta items and therefore cannot be excluded from pre-Columbian history of the Americas. Furthermore, it is precisely the [email protected] representations which often indicate personalities of high position, who can unhesitatingly be compared to the outstanding [email protected] who served as models for great works of art in Egypt and in
N i g e r ia.”27
_______
" Basil Davidson, in The Lost Cities of Africa, supplied further evidence, showing that trans-Atlantic voyages were made by West African seamen before and during the reign of Mansa Musa. He comments:
Omari, in the tenth chapter of his Masalik al-absad, reproduces a story which suggests that Atlantic voyages were made by mariners of West Africa in the times of Emperor Kankan Musa of Mali; and which roundly states that the predecessors of Kankan Musa embarked on the Atlantic with “two thousand ships” and sailed westward and disappeared ... yet Mali had outlets of the Atlantic seaboard, while North African mariners evidently knew of the Azores several centuries before the voyages of Columbus.”
______
Is Davidson a liar???
bump.....for real attribution
Goddess of Love

Hayward, CA

#8314 Feb 21, 2013
Im amazed someone in the 21st century would type a comment like this... Yet, with technology a spineless being could get away with this bs! GOD bless you.
Chuck Smears wrote:
This thread is more inferiority complex stroking itself. If Africans could navivate the ocean back then, they wouldn't have gotten shipped like freight over to the Land of Oppression. They would have jumped on their yachts and avoided the cotton days.
trollslayer

Midlothian, IL

#8316 Feb 21, 2013
According to the findings of a Dr. de Garay, the director of the Genetic Program of the National Commission of Nuclear Energy in Mexico. Dr. de Garay identified the malaria resistant mutant gene, that produces sickle cells, in the blood of the Lacandones Indians, one of the oldest and most secluded tribes in Mexico.

This tribe, of Mayan stock, who inhabit the forests of the upper waters of the Usumacinta river have not been known to mix with outsiders in post-Columbian times yet they possess a gene that is “usually found only in the blood of black people.”(19)

The following comment by F. Hayes Ph.D. is also very telling. In 1854, at the National Emigration Convention of Coloured People, held in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, a statement was issued to the African inhabitants of the United States of America regarding the necessity for leaving the USA as the only alternative left for them. Within that statement was the following observation:

'And among the earliest and most numerous class, who have found their way to the new world, were those of the African race. And it has been ascertained to our minds beyond a doubt, that when the continent was discovered, there were found in the West Indies and Central America, tribes of the black race, fine looking people, having the usual characteristics of colour and hair, identifying them as being originally of the African race'.(20)
__________

Scientific Evidence for Pre-Columbian Transoceanic Voyages to and from the Americas, part 1

http://www.google.com/url...

- John L. Sorenson is emeritus professor of anthropology at Brigham Young University

-Carl L. Johannessen is emeritus professor of biogeography in the Department of Geography at the University of Oregon at Eugene
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#8317 Feb 21, 2013
joben wrote:
<quoted text>
The olmecs were of african descent. Theres people in Mexico that already aknowledge this, but they pushed it aside from mexicos history. The europeans tried to lighten mexico up. There are afro nexicans still in mexico who have been pushed to rural ereas.
That's all BS rhetoric, boy. You have no evidence at all for Africans in America.

Your claiming the Olmecs is a CRIME... this is culture-genocide, as you are attempting to deny to Native Americans their real history.

I suggest you shut your goddam mouth right now.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#8318 Feb 21, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
According to the findings of a Dr. de Garay, the director of the Genetic Program of the National Commission of Nuclear Energy in Mexico. Dr. de Garay identified the malaria resistant mutant gene, that produces sickle cells, in the blood of the Lacandones Indians, one of the oldest and most secluded tribes in Mexico.
This tribe, of Mayan stock, who inhabit the forests of the upper waters of the Usumacinta river have not been known to mix with outsiders in post-Columbian times yet they possess a gene that is “usually found only in the blood of black people.”(19)
The following comment by F. Hayes Ph.D. is also very telling. In 1854, at the National Emigration Convention of Coloured People, held in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, a statement was issued to the African inhabitants of the United States of America regarding the necessity for leaving the USA as the only alternative left for them. Within that statement was the following observation:
'And among the earliest and most numerous class, who have found their way to the new world, were those of the African race. And it has been ascertained to our minds beyond a doubt, that when the continent was discovered, there were found in the West Indies and Central America, tribes of the black race, fine looking people, having the usual characteristics of colour and hair, identifying them as being originally of the African race'.(20)
__________
Scientific Evidence for Pre-Columbian Transoceanic Voyages to and from the Americas, part 1
http://www.google.com/url...
- John L. Sorenson is emeritus professor of anthropology at Brigham Young University
-Carl L. Johannessen is emeritus professor of biogeography in the Department of Geography at the University of Oregon at Eugene
In 1854!!! LOL!!! You're incredibly desperate, boy.

Those malaria genes prove nothing. They are remote. African genes would be in Veracruz if they had anything to do with the Olmecs, you halfwit.

LOL... 1854!!! You know NOTHING about science or history, boy!

The Olmecs are proven to have come from Soconusco. This is confirmed by NUMEROUS archaeologists who've reported finds showing a link from Olmecs to Soconusco by pottery art styles, materials and other evidence.

You have nothing, Afronazi boy. And... what is more... the topic you're avoiding, you lying asshole who's seen lots of evidence proving this: the Maghreb has been predominantly Eurasian for 30,000 years.

Yes, most Moors in Iberia were non-black Berbers---PROVEN!
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#8319 Feb 21, 2013
" Basil Davidson, in The Lost Cities of Africa, supplied further evidence, showing that trans-Atlantic voyages were made by West African seamen before and during the reign of Mansa Musa. He comments:
Omari, in the tenth chapter of his Masalik al-absad, reproduces a story which suggests that Atlantic voyages were made by mariners of West Africa in the times of Emperor Kankan Musa of Mali; and which roundly states that the predecessors of Kankan Musa embarked on the Atlantic with “two thousand ships” and sailed westward and disappeared ... yet Mali had outlets of the Atlantic seaboard, while North African mariners evidently knew of the Azores several centuries before the voyages of Columbus.”

Should we believe Davidson or a uneducated troll?
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#8320 Feb 21, 2013
Monument Q - Height 1.47m (4.82 ft). Carved from a distinctive porphyritic basalt and weighing over eight tons, this was the second colossal head to be discovered at Tres Zapotes.

Current location Santiago Tuxtla Museum, Veracruz.

Image (Right): The rear of Monument Q showing Ethiopian style braided hair. This monument in particular offers one of the strongest arguments in favour of the heads representing people of African origin.

http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/Images/countr...
Ramapithecus Estupidicus

Harrisburg, PA

#8321 Feb 21, 2013
Some say the America was discovered by Vikings.

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