What is white privilege?

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#569 Apr 29, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
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Well... You show how there is quite the opposite of White privilege in the U.S.
You like many Americans see nothing wrong with making fun of Appalachian or Southern White Americans.
But... Then if you dare say the same about Blacks, Hispanics, Jews ect then it is a problem of horrible racism.
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....So if a White person is born in a hillbilly area of West Virginia.
It is okay to mock them all you like.
If a Black person is born in the ghetto of Detriot.
It is then terrible & racist to mock them in the same way!?
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....... How is that White privilege!?
In your very comment you express the opposite.... That there is a Instutionalized system against White people.
Where it is okay to say or do things to White people that you can't with other races or minorities.
Well... Thank you for demonstating that point in your statements right here.
Those hillbillies are often regarded as "white trash", especially by more CLASS-privileged whites. I was a student at Vanderbilt where a lot of the whites belong to the 1%, and where the upper middle class whites were often trying to get into the 1%. You'd be startled (if not already informed) about the way those upper middle class whites talk and speak about the MASSES of white people.(As the token Black I was expected to buy into to that trash, and to be soooo thankful that I was allowed to enter vAnderbilt's gate of privilege. But I knew what they also thought about Black people, and most likely SAID about Black people when my back was turned.) Like many historians (black and white)I am convinced that racism and the system of white privileged was initially created by PRIVILEGE CLASS whites. The unfortunate thing is that all too many poor whites have bought into the boondoggle of white privilege--even if they've not got a pot to piss in. Hence, to take one historical example, mobs of working class white Bostonians descended on busloads of black school children during the busing crisis of the 1970s, but NOT upon the slumlord who stirred up the white mobs (many probably her destitute tenants) while she (slumlord in "Southie" probably went laughing all the way to the bank. What is needful is the political education and enlightenment fo the white poor....(which should not make us overlook the fact EVERYBODY could stand a bit of education and enlightenment! For America is clearly an UNENLIGHTENED country given what's possibe in a nation as wealthy as ours.)
Jake

Ardsley, NY

#570 Apr 29, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
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I'm here, Barros... although probably not for long. Got evening chores to take care of.
Regarding Jake the Snake, yes - point well taken.
Yeah we can see that your ungrateful g roidass is STILL in our White Privilege Western Developed Nations instead of your 3rd World Undeveloped Black Sh8tland Nations. Hypocritical knee grow.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

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Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#571 Apr 29, 2013
Jake wrote:
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Yeah we can see that your ungrateful g roidass is STILL in our White Privilege Western Developed Nations instead of your 3rd World Undeveloped Black Sh8tland Nations. Hypocritical knee grow.
Maybe that's because Western imperialism has exploited, pillaged, disrupted and impoverished Third World countries.

Some historians believe that about 600 years ago West African societies were as wealthy, sometimes wealthier than Western European societies.

China and India were more advanced than most of Europe. That didn't change due to some inherent superiority of the white man.

Sinajuavi
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#572 Apr 29, 2013
Savant wrote:
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Those hillbillies are often regarded as "white trash", especially by more CLASS-privileged whites. I was a student at Vanderbilt where a lot of the whites belong to the 1%, and where the upper middle class whites were often trying to get into the 1%. You'd be startled (if not already informed) about the way those upper middle class whites talk and speak about the MASSES of white people.(As the token Black I was expected to buy into to that trash, and to be soooo thankful that I was allowed to enter vAnderbilt's gate of privilege. But I knew what they also thought about Black people, and most likely SAID about Black people when my back was turned.) Like many historians (black and white)I am convinced that racism and the system of white privileged was initially created by PRIVILEGE CLASS whites. The unfortunate thing is that all too many poor whites have bought into the boondoggle of white privilege--even if they've not got a pot to piss in. Hence, to take one historical example, mobs of working class white Bostonians descended on busloads of black school children during the busing crisis of the 1970s, but NOT upon the slumlord who stirred up the white mobs (many probably her destitute tenants) while she (slumlord in "Southie" probably went laughing all the way to the bank. What is needful is the political education and enlightenment fo the white poor....(which should not make us overlook the fact EVERYBODY could stand a bit of education and enlightenment! For America is clearly an UNENLIGHTENED country given what's possibe in a nation as wealthy as ours.)
Exactly. The 1% must convince the poor whites to support them or they'll be removed from power.

This is nothing new. Poor white hungry Southerners supported the Confederacy to support the slaveholders, though slavery negatively impacted the poor whites! And the Irish draft riots in NYC had the Irish, nearly as powerless as the slaves, attacking black people!

Poor whites hace notoriously been tricked into not knowing who their enemy really is.

Russell Means spoke of the Union movement as a revolution, said that whites very nearly had toppled the evil system. This is why anti-Union sentiments are so evil. The system managed to co-opt Union leadership and prevent what should have happened---political rule by Unions, by 1950, and so we're in the current mess...
Jake

Ardsley, NY

#573 Apr 29, 2013
Savant wrote:
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Maybe that's because Western imperialism has exploited, pillaged, disrupted and impoverished Third World countries.
Some historians believe that about 600 years ago West African societies were as wealthy, sometimes wealthier than Western European societies.
China and India were more advanced than most of Europe. That didn't change due to some inherent superiority of the white man.
Go sell your political correct sh8t to someone else. West Africans were swinging from trees when our ancestors found yours in the jungles of Africa and they still are swinging from trees. Undeveloped 3rd world nations have been out of "Western imperialism" for hundreds of years and you fools still blame "YT" for your failures. Meanwhile those same undeveloped 3rd world hypocrite cockroaches continue to use "Western imperialism" to migrant into our Modern Developed Western Countries. ain't that just like the undeveloped cockroaches of the 3rd world blaming YT but still needing YT
Superior advanged Nations and the Modern Developed Lifestyle only YT can offer them, hypocrites.

Sinajuavi
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#574 Apr 29, 2013
Savant wrote:
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Maybe that's because Western imperialism has exploited, pillaged, disrupted and impoverished Third World countries.
Some historians believe that about 600 years ago West African societies were as wealthy, sometimes wealthier than Western European societies.
China and India were more advanced than most of Europe. That didn't change due to some inherent superiority of the white man.
Don't even talk to that jackass Jake. Jakeass.

Mexico was richer than Spain BY FAR in 1519, and more advanced scientifically than was Europe at that time (not that that is saying much).

What imperialists have done to the world is atrocious beyond what words can express. India trashed by 1000 years of Muslim rule---this is possibly history's greatest tragedy. Universities destroyed, monasteries trashed, science and learning thwarted.

Likewise the loss of autonomy of W African civilizations was a devastation and a disaster for all of humanity. And again, both Muslims and the Euros were at fault for this.

Sinajuavi
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#576 Apr 29, 2013
Two White Crows wrote:
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Ive actually had the opportunity to hear tim wise speak and believe me the mofo is clueless on almost every level and most if not all the things he says are laughable to say the least.
Trust me alot of people just laugh behind his back as i have witnessed.
Liberals just love this guy and not for his honesty either.
somehow i just cant quit laughing everytime i hear about that mofo.
Tim Wise exemplifies the doctrinaire dilettante Left, which has in the decades since the 60's become a farce largely.

However, don't throw out the baby with the bath. Racism is real, and there is much work to do against it yet.

I think Wise and his ilk (such as Topix's own Attai) are a great detriment because their ludicracy (is that a word?) gives reactionaries like you an excuse to dismiss the entire anti-racist position.

Well there are plenty of “leftists” like me around who don't follow along with the dilettantes, and my analysis is not kneejerk anti-white but based on real social science.

To this day in 2013 the racism persists against blacks, mexicans and others in the USA. I see this on a regular basis.

Sinajuavi
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#577 Apr 29, 2013
Its Hellywood wrote:
Anyone who thinks racism is normal and should be accepted is clueless. A white person no doubt.
Your racist smartass does more harm than good, fool.

You come in here without any meaningful analysis of anything, just idiotic racist insults against whites.

You're no different from the white racist idiots in here. You're a white racist in blackface, a minstrel-show racist.

so..... shut the F up, boy.

Sinajuavi
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#578 Apr 29, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
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Equality is slavery.
Why do so many Blacks support Communist!?
Don't you know it is in reality everything you hate!?
Slave planatations were run in a similar manor to Communism.
Yeah... Slave Planatations & Communist Nations both gave people food rations, couldn't own land, given housing, provided clothingrations, couldn't own guns.
The prison system is the same way!!
Prison systems are ultra egalitarian even more than Communist Nations ever did!!
I mean Prison systems had much more equality in housing, food rations, recreation time, clothing ect ect than Communist Nations could ever dream of!!
Your facile and typically rightwing attempt to equate the Left with Soviets is disingenuous.

I am far to the Left of nearly everyone and I hated the USSR. The USSR was not “socialist” or “communist”. There was no equality. Their 1% was as rich as ours. Stalinists usurped the revolution when they took power from the local soviets and centralized it in the Politburo.

You rightists don't bother to analyze any of this, you just use the USSR as a straw man which you attack as if it represents the Left. You're probably anti-union, anti-universal healthcare and so on, using the USSR always as a rationalization. It's bogus.

Is France “communist”? They have strong worker protections, universal healthcare... so be HONEST, dammit, and if you want to discuss the socialism we want, talk about France or Sweden, not the bloody USSR.
EBT Blackman

Jersey City, NJ

#579 Apr 29, 2013
EBT Blackman wrote:
Twice this week I have been delayed and annoyed by sBW with sail foams who could not get their EBT to work properly.
Just a few days ago I was shopping for groceries. I had too many items for the express lane (we all know blacks don't care how many items they have) so I ended up in the shortest line which just happened to be behind a black fambly of five. The clerk, a quite attractive white lady in her early forties, looked like she was going to puke as the two kids put their filthy little hands all over the candy as their mammy just turned a blind eye. Anyway; the old BW suddenly ooked quite loudly, "whachoo mean I'z be declined?"
The clerk asked her politely to try again, and explained that maybe she entered the PIN wrong. This happened four additional times. Finally a manager came over, examined the card, tried it a few times and still no dice. By this time there was another fambly behind me and several people behind them so I could not move as I was trapped in the checkout lane. After much ooking and eeking on the part of the BW with the EBT, the manager explained that he could not allow her to leave the store with a cart of merchandise until she paid or it, a full fledge cat 5 ensued. It didn't last long as a cop walked in ans asked what the trouble was. The old BW just left mutter under her breath about how "deez mufuggas is just rayciss." What could have taken ten minutes took almost thirty.
This evening I was returning a movie to the Red Box at the same store. Some BW was ahead of me yakking away on it's sail foam and asking someone on the other end what movie she should rent. After figuring it out, she goes to pay with, you guessed it, a damned EBT! When this card failed to work, still ooking into the phone, the woman drops it's purse and out falls a fat ass wad of cash. She then finally finds another card, tries it, and that one comes up as declined. In all, there were four attempts with the other card, each one declined before she gave up and walked off muttering "dat muhfuggin machine beez rayciss." So something that should have taken me two minutes tops ends up wasting ten minutes of my time.
Blacks never having their sh!t together has wasted a lot of my time. Don't get me started about them at the bank.
Oh, but my question was: can a "muhfuggin machine beez rayciss"?

Its Hellywood

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#580 Apr 29, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Exactly. The 1% must convince the poor whites to support them or they'll be removed from power.
This is nothing new. Poor white hungry Southerners supported the Confederacy to support the slaveholders, though slavery negatively impacted the poor whites! And the Irish draft riots in NYC had the Irish, nearly as powerless as the slaves, attacking black people!
Poor whites hace notoriously been tricked into not knowing who their enemy really is.
Russell Means spoke of the Union movement as a revolution, said that whites very nearly had toppled the evil system. This is why anti-Union sentiments are so evil. The system managed to co-opt Union leadership and prevent what should have happened---political rule by Unions, by 1950, and so we're in the current mess...
*co-sign*

The hand they want to hold is the hand that holds them down. Poor whites (which is 99% of them) have no clue who the real enemy is.
Jake

Ardsley, NY

#581 Apr 29, 2013
Zyd Monster Attack wrote:
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The Tsarnaev brothers were gunned down by police.
If the Tsarnaev brothers were Blacks would you riot & loot over them getting gunned down by police!?
This seems to be a habit of Blacks.
One not just beyond the U.S but also now seen in the U.K with the killing of Mark Duggan.
Blacks are uncivilized, they have no idea how to behave in civilized societies. Just look at all those thieving criminal Black Flash Mobs everywhere.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

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Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#582 Apr 29, 2013
White folks need to dump Bill O'Oreily and listen to folk like Jim Wallis, Noam Chomsky, Rabbi Michael Lerner.
And...wny not, ANGELA DAVIS. Just heard her tolk in a university in this area this past Thursday,
She's still on message, and I believe a more subtle thinker since she cut loose from the CP.

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Baltimore, Md.

#583 Apr 29, 2013
White folks should learn from the examples of militant (predominantly white) worker activists in Wisconsin, and righteous white folk who were down with the Occupy Movement.
White folk--I'm speaking of ordinary working class whites--should learn their progressive history. Learn about Tom Paine, the Shays rebellion, John Brown, Big Bill Haywood and the IWW, Viola liuzzo,etc.
Intereestingly enough, Tim Wise mentions that even in the South SOME whits saw through the hype and refused to support the reactionary Confederacy. Even in the deep south there has been labor militancy seeking solidarity across the color line--though usually suppressed by fascistic Jim Crow authorities.
White People: Fyuck white privilege. Lerna your revolutionary history! You do have one even if they don't talk about it in school. Reclaim that progressive legacy. Reclaim your HUMANITY, and respect for the dignity of EVERY human personality. Then we can all join to create a new America, and contribute what we can to the transformation of the world! FREEDOM RISING!!!

Sinajuavi
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#584 Apr 29, 2013
Even right now there are white voices speaking sanely... right on the TV---Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, 2 examples.

Mother Jones!

Another black radical from the 60's still making sense: Bobby Seale.

-0h_really-

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Since: Mar 13

Let's BUZZ Lower Manhattan....

#585 Apr 29, 2013
The Idiot savant wrote:
White folks need
The Idiot savant also wrote:
White folks should
When did YOU become such an expert on "white folks",
you fkkng MO-ron?

(Que up the impotent dumbfk negro chest beating about how he's "superior",
....to his "oppressors"...lol.. .negro "logic" at its best...)
SpermDonor

Pensacola, FL

#586 Apr 30, 2013
White Privilege is sort of like:
1. Knowing my Sheboon will say "thank you" after I pump a tea cup sized load of goo down her throat.
or
2. Knowing my Sheboon won't spill a drop when I wake up with morning wood and push my bone up her but and give her the pi$$ enema she deserves.
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#587 Apr 30, 2013
Jodi Arias and Amanda Knox = white privilege.

If one of them had been black EVERY black person would be on trial.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Level 8

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#588 Apr 30, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
Even right now there are white voices speaking sanely... right on the TV---Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, 2 examples.
Mother Jones!
Another black radical from the 60's still making sense: Bobby Seale.
Add the name of Angela Davis to the list of Blacks still making sense. Did I mention Rev. Jim Wallis? Some of the whites featured from Mother Jones are pretty cool.
Or perhaps you're thinking of the original Mothr Jones (1830--1930): Militant abolitionist, militant labor, militant advocate of women's rights.
Red Emma Goldman would be good to look at too.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

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Baltimore, Md.

#589 Apr 30, 2013
-0h_really- wrote:
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When did YOU become such an expert on "white folks",
you fkkng MO-ron?
(Que up the impotent dumbfk negro chest beating about how he's "superior",
....to his "oppressors"...lol.. .negro "logic" at its best...)
I've studied history, and know something about which white folk ADVANCED the cause of FREEDOM, and which one obstructed freedom.
You resemble the latter crowd of smelly reactionaries who are not only enemies of Black people, but even of white people.
Whites who are willing to burn Black azzes while kissing white elite azzes, and selling other whites down the river.
People like you must be neutralized. They will be no place for your in the new America.

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