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#54 May 12, 2014
Masud_S_Hoghughi__ wrote:
<quoted text>...it matters becoz many blak kneegros r trying to claim this as their own when in fact kneegros r incapable of building or maintaining advanced civilizations..........
Is that so?

Other historians point to the impact of Malian gold
in economic development of the Mediterranean:

"The most important foundation of Malian power,
however, was control of gold, and it is as a man
of gold that Mansa Musa is still remembered. His story
is quite important to world economic history, since
the supply of gold he commanded played a crucial role
in the economic growth of the Mediterranean."
--Merry E. Wiesner 2002. Discovering the Global Past

Those "incapable kneegros" actually financed the European Renaissance. Thus getting Europe out of the dark ages.

Meanwhile...

".. there was no English commercial revolution, no development of banks and credit facilities that can be claimed for thirteenth-century Italy. One consequence of this relative backwardness was that in the thirteenth century, an increasing proportion of England's foreign trade came to be in Italian hands.. In a very real sense late thirteenth-century England was being treated as a partially developed economy. Much of its import-export business was handled by foreigners (Gascons and Flemings as well as Italians. Its main exports were aw materials - wool and grain- rather than manufactured goods, There had been, in other words, no industrial revolution."

.. Moreover, despite the claims sometimes made for the cloth-fulling mill, there were no significant advances in industrial technology. Nor was there anything to compare with the highly capitalized development of the Flemish cloth industry in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries."

"..Above all, there was no agricultural revolution.. the technical limitations under which they worked meant no significant increase in yields was possible, neither from sheep in terms of weight of fleece, nor from seed in terms of yield of grain. Though the use of the horse as a draught animal was spreading, this was of marginal importance.."

".. Thus in many respect England remained a stagnant economy. It can indeed be argued that by comparison with some of its neighbors, especially Flanders and Italy, England was less advanced in the thirteenth century than it had been in the eleventh.. In twelfth and thirteenth-century England, people felt they lived in a country which was economically advanced by comparison with the lands of their Celtic neighbours."

--John Gillingham, Ralph Alan Griffiths. 2002. Medieval Britain: a very short introduction.
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#55 May 12, 2014
Masud_S_Hoghughi__ wrote:
<quoted text>...it matters becoz many blak kneegros r trying to claim this as their own when in fact kneegros r incapable of building or maintaining advanced civilizations..........
You are amusingly stupid, you know that?

See, not too long ago, only shortly after the Roman invasion and enslavement of most of Europe, your ancestors used to live in Celtic huts. This was only 1400 years ago.

http://www.llanbister.powys.sch.uk/portfolio/...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YKLNbusWVTI/TWaukIe...

In the meanwhile West Africa long before that had Walata and Djenne Djenno., for example.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/...

http://anthropology.rice.edu/Content.aspx...

You completely expose yourself here, as the dummy you are.LOL

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#56 May 12, 2014
Will you children stop fighting over ancient royals and do something note-worthy yourselves?
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#57 May 12, 2014
Masud_S_Hoghughi__ wrote:
<quoted text>...it matters becoz many blak kneegros r trying to claim this as their own when in fact kneegros r incapable of building or maintaining advanced civilizations..........
And since Big Mike mentioned Mansa Musa, I may as well add to that!

Meet Mansa Musa I of Mali – the richest human being in all history

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/world...

Mansa Musa Of Mali Named World's Richest Man Of All Time; Gates And Buffet Also Make List

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/17/mans...

See, this man once shifted the entire economy of Egypt, by bringing so much gold in.

The reason why he did that, is because he was so proud to see statues, sculptures paintings ( hieroglyphs. Looking like himself.

And while I'm at it...
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#58 May 12, 2014
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no idea what you're trying to imply? Perhaps it's color complexion? LOL
No one said that light color complexion didn't exist, or did we? LOL
But from several melanin tests we know that they were African in origin, so there you go...off with your witty BS. Also in body positions and limb ratio they were found to cluster with other Africans.
Fact of the matter is that you will find light complexion in the North (Lower Egypt) and darker complexion in the South.
I advice you not to start a pic spam contest, you'll be smacked up site down like there is no tomorrow.
See, if you use logic, you'll notice that they have the same features. Light skinned or dark skinned.LOL
http://tinyurl.com/la8m8xt
http://picturestack.com/140/262/H03Picture9SD...
http://picturestack.com/140/262/H03Picture9SD...
And there is nothing odd about these girls.
http://medias.photodeck.com/f70196ec-6208-11e...
Nor about her:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4124/4978278296...
Unfortunately for you lighter skin is found in several places within Africa as well.
http://picturestack.com/533/221/fnEPicture10c...
http://picturestack.com/533/221/pEXPicture9s7...
Many Egyptians still look the ones in the ancient depictions. I have been to Egypt and for the most part I don't think their features look subharan.
http://picturestack.com/140/262/H03Picture9SD... .

http://www.ablogabouthistory.com/wp-content/u...

Thats just your wishful thinking.

Btw Egyptians knew how to depict Black people too.

http://www.ablogabouthistory.com/wp-content/u...

And I'm guessing that you don't know but there has been a lot of racial mixing in West Africa with Arabs and Whites especially among the elite. And I should probably bring up the popluarity there of using skin bleaching cream as well.

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#59 May 12, 2014
Jubilant Sleep wrote:
Will you children stop fighting over ancient royals and do something note-worthy yourselves?
Um...We are. We're combating racist like Masud_S_Hoghughi who said people of African descent did not note worthy themselves. But if you want us to stop, I'll be glad to. I have better things to do.
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#60 May 12, 2014
Bigsmoke wrote:
I don't understand the obsession some people have with certain civilizations, racial composition. Unless one is trying to prove ancient Egyptians weren't human or something, I don't see why there needs to be a discussion.
It was a civilization, something unique to humanity.
The fact that you can all sit here, regardless of your racial background and converse using complex equipment shows you were humans like those ancient Egyptians. End of.
It's the same old story of racist whites trying to claim superiority of others. Thus ancient Egpyt had to be white.LOL

Btw.

These are new unearthed findings.

Who had the privilege to spend eternal life next to the pharaoh? Close to the royal tombs in the Egyptian Valley of the Kings, excavations by Egyptologists from the University of Basel have identified the burial place of several children as well as other family members of two pharaohs.

http://www.unibas.ch/index.cfm...

https://aegyptologie.unibas.ch/forschung/proj...

Stela of Takhennu 25th Dynasty British Museum
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Stela of Ikhonsshedef Dyn 25
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Seated Ptah Dynasty 21-25 Metropolitan Museum
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Tomb of Meryre
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Two Princess shaking a sistrum Tomb of Kheruef (Senaa) 18 Dyn 'Steward of the Great Royal Wife, Tiye’,‘Royal Scribe’ during the reign of Amenhotep III and Amenhotep IV Neues Museum
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Tomb of Kheruef (Senaa) Dyn 18
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Akhenaten Family member Amarna
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
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Head of an Amarna Princess Dyn 18
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Menkaure Dyn 4
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Detail of a statue of King Amenemhat I (meaning "Amun is at the Head I")(Sehetepibre) sitting on a throne Egyptian Museum
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...
Wife of Psmamtik I 26th Dynasty Neueus Museum
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm122/phot...

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#61 May 12, 2014
big mike M wrote:
<quoted text>
Um...We are. We're combating racist like Masud_S_Hoghughi who said people of African descent did not note worthy themselves. But if you want us to stop, I'll be glad to. I have better things to do.
Please do. These racists won't believe anything you say regardless of how many facts you have to show them. They will go on living in their delusional world with or without your input.

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#63 May 12, 2014
Oh crap. wrong picture. Here are Egyptians depicting Black people.

http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpr...

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#65 May 12, 2014
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
It's the same old story of racist whites trying to claim superiority of others. Thus ancient Egpyt had to be white.LOL
Most people would not say the Egyptians were White. Some were Black obviously but many did look more Middle Eastern. We should just agree that Egyptians were a mixed people and leave it at that.

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Saint Louis, MO

#66 May 12, 2014
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>This woman is Egyptian and this is what the average Egyptian woman looks like in Egypt.
youtube.com/watch...
She resembles Samia Nkrumah: http://edition.radioxyzonline.com/sites/defau... know that Samia's mom was Egyptian ( http://cdn.ghanaweb.com/GHP/img/pics/91638527... ) and her dad was Ghanaian ( http://www.negroartist.com/WEB%20DUBOIS3/imag... )

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#67 May 12, 2014
big mike M wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that so?
Other historians point to the impact of Malian gold
in economic development of the Mediterranean:
"The most important foundation of Malian power,
however, was control of gold, and it is as a man
of gold that Mansa Musa is still remembered. His story
is quite important to world economic history, since
the supply of gold he commanded played a crucial role
in the economic growth of the Mediterranean."
--Merry E. Wiesner 2002. Discovering the Global Past
Those "incapable kneegros" actually financed the European Renaissance. Thus getting Europe out of the dark ages.
Meanwhile...
".. there was no English commercial revolution, no development of banks and credit facilities that can be claimed for thirteenth-century Italy. One consequence of this relative backwardness was that in the thirteenth century, an increasing proportion of England's foreign trade came to be in Italian hands.. In a very real sense late thirteenth-century England was being treated as a partially developed economy. Much of its import-export business was handled by foreigners (Gascons and Flemings as well as Italians. Its main exports were aw materials - wool and grain- rather than manufactured goods, There had been, in other words, no industrial revolution."
.. Moreover, despite the claims sometimes made for the cloth-fulling mill, there were no significant advances in industrial technology. Nor was there anything to compare with the highly capitalized development of the Flemish cloth industry in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries."
"..Above all, there was no agricultural revolution.. the technical limitations under which they worked meant no significant increase in yields was possible, neither from sheep in terms of weight of fleece, nor from seed in terms of yield of grain. Though the use of the horse as a draught animal was spreading, this was of marginal importance.."
".. Thus in many respect England remained a stagnant economy. It can indeed be argued that by comparison with some of its neighbors, especially Flanders and Italy, England was less advanced in the thirteenth century than it had been in the eleventh.. In twelfth and thirteenth-century England, people felt they lived in a country which was economically advanced by comparison with the lands of their Celtic neighbours."
--John Gillingham, Ralph Alan Griffiths. 2002. Medieval Britain: a very short introduction.
You're confused about European history, of course.

The “Dark Ages” were long gone before the Italian Renaissance began. Your racist afrosupremacist notion that Europe lacked civilization except where contacted by Africans is ludicrous... all the moreso since most Moors in Europe were not black.

The Middle and Late Medieval periods in Europe were not “Dark”.

The Italian Renaissance was more than anything due to the free intellectual climate of the court of Roger II of Sicily, a Norman.

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#68 May 12, 2014
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
You are amusingly stupid, you know that?
See, not too long ago, only shortly after the Roman invasion and enslavement of most of Europe, your ancestors used to live in Celtic huts. This was only 1400 years ago.
http://www.llanbister.powys.sch.uk/portfolio/...
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YKLNbusWVTI/TWaukIe...
In the meanwhile West Africa long before that had Walata and Djenne Djenno., for example.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/...
http://anthropology.rice.edu/Content.aspx...
You completely expose yourself here, as the dummy you are.LOL
The Romans conquered WHEN? 1400 years ago? LOL... Rome had fallen by then.

“Celtic huts”??? Celtic housing in Britain was very nice. You are attempting to make it sound primitive and squalid simply because of your vile subhuman racism.

Boy.

Level 8

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#69 May 12, 2014
Garrig wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with much of what you said in the post before this one. But this here is racist and ignorant..calling the white girsl ugly??
I guess you don't know that first of all Mexicans do not represent all Hispanic people and that there is diversity among Mexicans. If you go to the parts of Mexico City where the rich people live you will find them to be very "White" looking. Just take a look Mexican television to see what many of their celebrities look like. Don't forget Hispanics started in Europe, Spain.
They were ugly in the context that they were in. I tried to justify it by thinking they were lesbians or whatever. But they looked very typical od white women. And just about every white woman I have seen since seeing them looks ugly to me. This is not racism. I do not think you realize just how pretty those Latina women were yesterday. Anybody would look ugly next to them.

For example, there was this little girl about 10 years old. She had long black hair braided on top of her head. I could not help but notice how pretty she looked. When I walked past her, I saw that her mom had long black hair that was in one braid reaching down to her hips. That was a pretty sight, dude. And 4 flat butted haphazzled white women walk into the mix? Thinking that blonde hair is automatically pretty? It just did not work. They were out of place. The context was dark beauties, not blondes

In this town and especially where I live, most people are not white. So, whites look out of place no matter how you cut the cake.
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#71 May 12, 2014
Insect Trust wrote:
<quoted text>
The Romans conquered WHEN? 1400 years ago? LOL... Rome had fallen by then.
“Celtic huts”??? Celtic housing in Britain was very nice. You are attempting to make it sound primitive and squalid simply because of your vile subhuman racism.
Boy.
Clown look and read:

Quote:
The Celts lived in huts of arched timber with walls of wicker and roofs of thatch. The huts were generally gathered in loose hamlets. In several places each tribe had its own coinage system.

http://www.britainexpress.com/History/Celtic_...

Yes, Rome had fallen by then in most of Europe. Do simple math. LOL.

http://www.google.com/search...
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#72 May 12, 2014
Jubilant Sleep wrote:
Will you children stop fighting over ancient royals and do something note-worthy yourselves?
Archeology and anthropology etc is noten-worthy. People actually get Ph.D's. in it.

There is no fight btw, only childish Eurocentric ignorance and arrogance.

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#73 May 12, 2014
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
They were ugly in the context that they were in. I tried to justify it by thinking they were lesbians or whatever. But they looked very typical od white women. And just about every white woman I have seen since seeing them looks ugly to me. This is not racism. I do not think you realize just how pretty those Latina women were yesterday. Anybody would look ugly next to them.
For example, there was this little girl about 10 years old. She had long black hair braided on top of her head. I could not help but notice how pretty she looked. When I walked past her, I saw that her mom had long black hair that was in one braid reaching down to her hips. That was a pretty sight, dude. And 4 flat butted haphazzled white women walk into the mix? Thinking that blonde hair is automatically pretty? It just did not work. They were out of place. The context was dark beauties, not blondes
In this town and especially where I live, most people are not white. So, whites look out of place no matter how you cut the cake.
"And just about every white woman I have seen since seeing them looks ugly to me."

WOW!
Almoravid

Rotterdam, Netherlands

#74 May 12, 2014
Insect Trust wrote:
<quoted text>
You're confused about European history, of course.
The “Dark Ages” were long gone before the Italian Renaissance began. Your racist afrosupremacist notion that Europe lacked civilization except where contacted by Africans is ludicrous... all the moreso since most Moors in Europe were not black.
The Middle and Late Medieval periods in Europe were not “Dark”.
The Italian Renaissance was more than anything due to the free intellectual climate of the court of Roger II of Sicily, a Norman.
You're confused about African history and African ethnographics.

You're racist white supremacy notion and lack on Africa's ethnographics.

Literally everything you blame others of doing, is what you're doing yourself.

http://www.cultuurwetenschappen.org/recensies...

http://oi51.tinypic.com/11jn61e.jpg

http://www.abcdelacpa.com/maroc/221.jpg

youtube.com/watch...
Big Knob

United States

#76 May 12, 2014
Almoravid wrote:
What's funny is, now they're trying to say that king tut probably looked like boy george an english homosexual. They've taken the King, and robbed him of his pigmentation to cater to the mental illness mindset of white supremacy. Thats a page out of michael anglo's book he painted jesus christ white, and that image was used to confuse the non white world, with white idolatry, See when you're robbed of your knowledge of self, lied to about your history, and have your spirituality manipulated, then that'll have you walking around feeling inferior, less than, saying oh well, its no use. Its psychological warfare and that game has been played on people of African descent around the world.......now the GAME'S up. Truth crushed to the earth, has risen.
Big Knob

United States

#77 May 12, 2014
Almoravid wrote:
<quoted text>
Why is it you keep talking as if you are suppose to know what the average Northwest of Northeast African looks like? For this purpose I'll stick to Northeast Africa.
http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/...
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5275/5859873715...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2380/185892321...
http://imageshack.us/m/638/2041/egypt3l.jpg
http://users.stlcc.edu/mfuller/egyptclass/EAm...
http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae70/KING1...
From what you type it is 100% certain that you have never been there ever in you entire pathetic life. But you are laughable material thou.
This girl is Egyptian and that is what the average girl looks like in Egypt.
youtube.com/watch...
This woman is Egyptian and this is what the average Egyptian woman looks like in Egypt.
youtube.com/watch...
Look Berbers:
youtube.com/watch...
Another example of white racial engineering, robbing these people of their culture and pigmentation and painting them white...... Well that puts an end to the berbers are eurasian bullshit, its believed that st. augustine, cyprian, origen were berbers, the early African Church Fathers, who are the seedbed of western christianity..........thats why they tried to turn them into Eurasians, to de-Africanize them......to keep that a secret..........

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