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Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin

There are 2745 comments on the Log Cabin Democrat story from Aug 1, 2013, titled Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin. In it, Log Cabin Democrat reports that:

Americans' attitudes about their economic future are sharply divided by race, with whites significantly less likely than blacks or Hispanics to think they can improve their own standard of living.

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#2057 Aug 28, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Prove the most qualified applicant wasn't hired or didn't get the position in college.

Oh that's right, you CAN'T.
Prove the most qualified applicant did get hired or got the position in college.
Oh, that's right, YOU CAN'T! See how that works?
There is this thing called common sense that apparently you lack. It tells us that a policy that sets aside positions based on race, neglects qualifications other than race. This is your duh moment!

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#2058 Aug 28, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>True, I don't.

But Congress DOES.

If you have a beef with how white people are treated in America, take it up with your elected representatives.
Congress does, within the constraints of the Bill Of Rights. That's what you choose to ignore, and apparently want to change.

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#2059 Aug 28, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>No, race isn't the only reason anyone could be Anti-Obama, but I have yet to meet a single white Anti-Obama who ISN'T a racist as well.

Face it, you guys HATE the fact that a black man was elected President.

Just as you're going to hate it when a woman if finally elected president, and then a Hispanic or an Asian.

Better get used to being in the minority......
So you openly admit you posted a lie? By your own interpretive methods, personal experience can not be posted as proof. In addition, your personal experience does not equate into every circumstance. So I guess we can agree that your statement,"Anti-Obama = racist coward" has been debunked?

We guys HATE the fact a relatively unknown failure was elected president. YOU feel the need to make excuses for him because he is black, and deflect by accusing others of hating him because he is black.

You post nothing more than your incorrect, unfounded opinion. I will hate if the woman is Hilary Clinton, but note due to her gender. I would hate to see her elected because of her handling of Benghazi, her ducking out on the investigation, and her socialism.

You bring up a great point! If I, working tax paying America, get used to being the minority, what happens to tax rates? Who will pay for the majority who leach off the taxpayer?

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#2060 Aug 28, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Because no program is perfect nor can it completely address every issue for every person.
As long as their remains inequities in education funding there will be inequities in poverty levels.
Yes, some people regardless of their race/ethnicity/etc will likely always be poor.
That said, every individual should have the same opportunity to lift themselves out of poverty.
As of now they don't.
You are a left wing socialist , self righteous idiot.

The majority of white people hit the American shore dirt poor.

They are not to blame for a system of slavery they had nothing to do with.
AnswersRus

Lander, WY

#2061 Aug 28, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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...
Liberals can not debate without altering your posts.
Which of course means that they can not debate at all.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#2062 Aug 28, 2013
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>You are a left wing socialist , self righteous idiot.
The majority of white people hit the American shore dirt poor.
They are not to blame for a system of slavery they had nothing to do with.
That is why they came here. Except for this idiot's family and some others. I listened to the stories from my own family. One of the reasons the movements this fool enjoys happened. But many of the old now realize what the result of their being asleep has caused. The early born boomers took it from there. And inside of a half century has almost turned America into what we abhor. When you dangle something for nothing in front of people educated in right or wrong, they will at first push it away in disgust. But become weakened as it is constantly put back into view. Those rotten Christians will be remembered fondly after the lovable fuzzball totalitarian police state shows it concern for us all. Hell, if scripture is accurate, those rotten Christians will suffer soon enough.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#2063 Aug 28, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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We have no authority over African nations, so there's not much we can do.
Ah.....now I see where you are going. It's about authority and control for you. Slavery is a by product of your African brothers. They sold you into slavery put you on a boat with various destinations with the US among them. Whites put an end to slavery, not the black slaveowners. It's time to end the excuses and focus on how to improve.

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Since: Jul 10

Suffolk, VA

#2064 Aug 28, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
No, race isn't the only reason anyone could be Anti-Obama, but I have yet to meet a single white Anti-Obama who ISN'T a racist as well.
Face it, you guys HATE the fact that a black man was elected President.
Just as you're going to hate it when a woman if finally elected president, and then a Hispanic or an Asian.
Better get used to being in the minority......
You're positivily wrong. Lets elect Dr. Ben Carson for President. How about Michele Malkin?(She's a 2-fer) Ted Cruz? Marco Rubio?
I could keep going but you will come up with your name calling, mud slinging, sand kicking bully tactics that are all fabricated lies. The one thing libbies do best is lie.

However, I've yet to meet a tolerant liberal!
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#2065 Aug 28, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Actually the majority on welfare, whether white, black or whatever race, are equally either lazy and/or incompetent.
And not willing to take on the act of personal resposibility.
And why should they? Welfare payments equate in some areas of the country to $11.25/hour!!! Why work when you get "free" money?!
Which is exactly why we need to be released from the talons of big govt. Reduce the freebies so people can learn to be self sufficient. There are many ways to help but this has been a flop. Time to regroup.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#2066 Aug 28, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you were accurately accused of focusing solely on "the blacks" who are on welfare while ignoring the millions of whites on welfare.
And you were accurately portrayed as a racist because of your repeated comments about something being wrong with "the blacks", while as usual you remained silent about "the whites".
The solution to our welfare problem will help ALL Americans regardless of race, and it starts with education & job training.
Same ol same ol'. We've been doing that for decades. You are clueless.
AnswersRus

Lander, WY

#2067 Aug 28, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>You're positivily wrong. Lets elect Dr. Ben Carson for President. How about Michele Malkin?(She's a 2-fer) Ted Cruz? Marco Rubio?
I could keep going but you will come up with your name calling, mud slinging, sand kicking bully tactics that are all fabricated lies. The one thing libbies do best is lie.
However, I've yet to meet a tolerant liberal!
How about electing someone like Thomas Sowell, Bill Cosby, Morgan Freeman, Allen West, or as a reverse AA candidate, Wilford Brimley?

"I didn't go to high school. I think that after you learn to read and write and do your numbers and flush the toilet behind yourself, you don't need no more schoolin'. You need to get out in the water and swim."
Wilford Brimley

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Tawas City, Michigan

#2068 Aug 28, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> They did that. Have been for many decades. People learned to play the system to get paid then quit. Then start again. Some even hide their other forms of wealth or earnings to get paid. The system and the taxpayer is played and played over and over. Those who voiced concern were and are called haters. And this is done now across all spectrums across the growing fruitless plain.
I don't know what system you're talking about.

I'm saying END direct payments to individuals. No money, no cash, no check, no debit card, etc. The money goes to the college or vocational school or employer which provides the training & education.

If we stop giving out direct payments, then there is no money to get; no way to play the system.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2069 Aug 28, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
Prove the most qualified applicant did get hired or got the position in college.
Oh, that's right, YOU CAN'T! See how that works?
There is this thing called common sense that apparently you lack. It tells us that a policy that sets aside positions based on race, neglects qualifications other than race. This is your duh moment!
They got the job, therefore they were the most qualified.

How many successful businesses do YOU know who hire the least qualified individual?

Set-asides (i.e. quotas) based on race on unconstitutional.

Considering minority status & diversity as part of their qualifications is NOT unconstitutional.

You're must mad because being white is no longer an automatic bonus in your qualifications.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2070 Aug 28, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
Congress does, within the constraints of the Bill Of Rights. That's what you choose to ignore, and apparently want to change.
And just how does Affirmative Action violate the Bill of Rights?

Why hasn't the SCOTUS overturned all Affirmative Action programs as unconstitutional if it violates the Bill of Rights?

Oh that's right, because they AREN'T unconstitutional.

But state-mandated white preference & racial segregation WAS found to be unconstitutional.

Oh, maybe that's why you're whining again.....

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2071 Aug 28, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
So you openly admit you posted a lie? By your own interpretive methods, personal experience can not be posted as proof. In addition, your personal experience does not equate into every circumstance. So I guess we can agree that your statement,"Anti-Obama = racist coward" has been debunked?
We guys HATE the fact a relatively unknown failure was elected president. YOU feel the need to make excuses for him because he is black, and deflect by accusing others of hating him because he is black.
You post nothing more than your incorrect, unfounded opinion. I will hate if the woman is Hilary Clinton, but note due to her gender. I would hate to see her elected because of her handling of Benghazi, her ducking out on the investigation, and her socialism.
You bring up a great point! If I, working tax paying America, get used to being the minority, what happens to tax rates? Who will pay for the majority who leach off the taxpayer?
Nope, an Anti-Obama is a racist coward. Show me one that isn't, and I'll retract that statement. Good luck, so far no one else could find one.

You'll keep paying; you'll just have to pay more. And since you'll be in the minority, you won't have any say over how much you are taxed. I'd say a 99% rate would be about right for any Anti-Obama, or Anti-Hillary.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2072 Aug 28, 2013
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>You are a left wing socialist , self righteous idiot.
The majority of white people hit the American shore dirt poor.
They are not to blame for a system of slavery they had nothing to do with.
They benefitted from it, just as my ancestors did; they are responsible for fixing it, just as I am.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2074 Aug 28, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Ah.....now I see where you are going. It's about authority and control for you. Slavery is a by product of your African brothers. They sold you into slavery put you on a boat with various destinations with the US among them. Whites put an end to slavery, not the black slaveowners. It's time to end the excuses and focus on how to improve.
Nope.

Since I'm white, I have no African brothers and was never sold into slavery.

I AM focusing on how to improve- end our educational funding bias. That's how we improve EVERYONE regardless or race or ethnicity.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2075 Aug 28, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>You're positivily wrong. Lets elect Dr. Ben Carson for President. How about Michele Malkin?(She's a 2-fer) Ted Cruz? Marco Rubio?
I could keep going but you will come up with your name calling, mud slinging, sand kicking bully tactics that are all fabricated lies. The one thing libbies do best is lie.
However, I've yet to meet a tolerant liberal!
Feel free to try and elect any of those GOPasaur nutjobs in 2016.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2076 Aug 28, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text> Same ol same ol'. We've been doing that for decades. You are clueless.
No, we haven't, which is why so many people don't finish high school, much less college or vocational training.

Without education you can't earn a decent living.

Without the ability to earn a decent living you can't get out of poverty.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#2077 Aug 28, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
They benefitted from it, just as my ancestors did; they are responsible for fixing it, just as I am.
You are out of your mind.

You benefit from street lights but have you ever changed a bulb ?

Blacks have also benefited from living in this country so they should be responsible for fixing things as well.

You should go back to your roots of Germany or Norway and live with what is killing this country , left wing [email protected] like yourself who want socialism.

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