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Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin

There are 2745 comments on the Log Cabin Democrat story from Aug 1, 2013, titled Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin. In it, Log Cabin Democrat reports that:

Americans' attitudes about their economic future are sharply divided by race, with whites significantly less likely than blacks or Hispanics to think they can improve their own standard of living.

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#1819 Aug 21, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>What's fair about wasting taxpayer money on a bunch of slimeballs? They caught on camera and admitted to it. They should get their trial next week, found guilty and shot within the 30 days. They should be shot in such a way so they could slowly bleed to death and think about their victim while they die.
I have no problem with that.

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#1820 Aug 21, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>And yet you've already convicted them just because they're black....
This is what I posted:
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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They deserve their right to a fair trial. But once sentence is passed, I agree, fry them if found guilty.

Please show where I convicted them just because they are black! What part of "if found guilty" are you having trouble comprehending?

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#1822 Aug 21, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>That's what happens when society has to walk on eggshells around these beasts. When they are coddled and taught to hate whites because they havent' been paid back enough because their black ancestors sold them into slavery....what do you expect will happen? This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Precisely!

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#1823 Aug 21, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>State mandated discrimination is hardly equality, which is why the courts ruled those laws unconstitutional.

I do enjoy watching you attempt to defend Jim Crow laws as providing "equality".

It's white people's fault because those discriminatory laws were passed by white people.
Repeating state mandated discrimination does not make it fact! If it does, I'm going to repeat that I'm a millionaire until I really am.

Those laws were not passed by people working and paying taxes today!

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#1824 Aug 21, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Well at least you've dropped the pretense of not being a racist.

So after enslaving them and stealing all their wealth for generations, blacks are suddenly supposed to be able to build an economically successful community just because slavery was abolished?

How were they supposed to start their own schools & businesses etc when the overwhelming majority had no education, couldn't read or write, and had absolutely no money?

Btw, picking cotton for free for the white slave masters the previous 100+ years WAS a significant contribution to society. About the only one they were allowed to make BY LAW.
I am not a racist for speaking the truth. That's just your race card being played in an effort to undermine the truth.

Sure. Yes! How do the Amish do it?

How has man done it all over the world?

BS! Look at the percentage of slave owners in the country compared to total population. I notice you avoid mentioning the black slave owners as well.

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#1825 Aug 21, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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There were laws allowing them to form their own communities to do those things separately. Blacks chose not to.
HOW THE HELL COULD WE??? It's like throwing me in the desert and telling me to build a mall with no hammer, nails, bricks, cement etc. How the hell can I do that???? How the hell could blacks just build up a community with no education to start off with, no money, no type of assistance whatsoever??? It's not physically possible. Not only that, but blacks didn't have the basics like brotherhood and sisterhood. We had to start from scratch, and manage to do it with the threat of police brutality of racial injustice constantly looming over us. Despite all our obstacles, we still managed to build successful communities in the early 1900's, establish our own television stations, magazines (JET, ESSENCE, VIBE, XXL,ETC ETC) make an impact on music (rock and roll, rhythm and blues, hip hop)and having to fight for civil rights and AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. Some of you people just don't get it, and you simply don't want to understand. You would rather just whine and complain about your so call injustice that blacks are subjecting whites to.

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#1826 Aug 21, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>So 50 years of a few Affirmative Action programs compensates for 150+ years of slavery & generational wealth theft & state-mandated discrimination?

Nope, don't think so.
Read what you just posted here! Yet you keep lying about not wanting revenge or getting even for the past. Compensation is the same as repayment.

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#1827 Aug 21, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Read what you just posted here! Yet you keep lying about not wanting revenge or getting even for the past. Compensation is the same as repayment.
You have the worst comprehension of all the racist on this forum. You have constantly accused that poster of wanting revenge, even though none of his posts indicate such. He is pointing out why Affirmative Action is needed. To correct a wrong, not to get some damn revenge.

If me and my brother beat you up and leave you in a full body caste, and then your children seek compensation for your injuries, that's not revenge. If somehow you lost your job and are unable to provide for your children, then I along with my brother, should be held accountable for your families well being until you are able to once again provide for them. The beating only took a few minutes, but the road to recovery will take quite some time. Well, that's how life is, the act of injustice takes less time to commit as oppose to the successful solution being implemented. 200yrs of damaging a group of people is gonna require some effort and compensation on the part of the government who helped perpetrate these injustices. Just because the whites who did this are no longer alive, doesn't mean that our problem is suddenly null and void. Had my great great grandmother been raised in a normal upbringing, should would have taught my great grandmother, and she would have taught my grandmother, and she would have taught my mother and so on. You're not looking at this logically. You simply feel that other people did it, blacks can too. Other people have been compensated, other people have been assisted, other people had family over here in the states that could provide a safe haven for them. And when those people came out of their bondage, they didn't have to face discrimination at the level that blacks have had to deal with. Ignore it all you want, but it won't make reality any different.
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#1828 Aug 21, 2013
ladondaruler1 wrote:
<quoted text> You have the worst comprehension of all the racist on this forum. You have constantly accused that poster of wanting revenge, even though none of his posts indicate such. He is pointing out why Affirmative Action is needed. To correct a wrong, not to get some damn revenge.
If me and my brother beat you up and leave you in a full body caste, and then your children seek compensation for your injuries, that's not revenge. If somehow you lost your job and are unable to provide for your children, then I along with my brother, should be held accountable for your families well being until you are able to once again provide for them. The beating only took a few minutes, but the road to recovery will take quite some time. Well, that's how life is, the act of injustice takes less time to commit as oppose to the successful solution being implemented. 200yrs of damaging a group of people is gonna require some effort and compensation on the part of the government who helped perpetrate these injustices. Just because the whites who did this are no longer alive, doesn't mean that our problem is suddenly null and void. Had my great great grandmother been raised in a normal upbringing, should would have taught my great grandmother, and she would have taught my grandmother, and she would have taught my mother and so on. You're not looking at this logically. You simply feel that other people did it, blacks can too. Other people have been compensated, other people have been assisted, other people had family over here in the states that could provide a safe haven for them. And when those people came out of their bondage, they didn't have to face discrimination at the level that blacks have had to deal with. Ignore it all you want, but it won't make reality any different.
I agree with you except there are a lot of bull chitt artists who play the game and many African Americans who do nothing to police the situation. And that means being responsible in voting. There are changes needed in our social welfare programs not to take away but to limit abuses. Correct these things. And I do firmly believe that there are going to be cuts in things in the future out of necessity. But you got a point.

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#1829 Aug 21, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> I agree with you except there are a lot of bull chitt artists who play the game and many African Americans who do nothing to police the situation. And that means being responsible in voting. There are changes needed in our social welfare programs not to take away but to limit abuses. Correct these things. And I do firmly believe that there are going to be cuts in things in the future out of necessity. But you got a point.
Oh, I agree. There shouldn't be a single able body 20 something or 30 something year old collecting welfare. I do however believe in 'TEMPORARY' assistance if a person is laid off and have little mouths to feed. But it is hard to police these situations because most of the people running for public office are crooks to begin with. Most of these politicians aren't out for the people, they're out for their party and their pockets. Whether you vote republican or democrat, they all appear to be incompetent and complacent.

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#1830 Aug 21, 2013
ladondaruler1 wrote:
<quoted text>HOW THE HELL COULD WE??? It's like throwing me in the desert and telling me to build a mall with no hammer, nails, bricks, cement etc. How the hell can I do that???? How the hell could blacks just build up a community with no education to start off with, no money, no type of assistance whatsoever??? It's not physically possible. Not only that, but blacks didn't have the basics like brotherhood and sisterhood. We had to start from scratch, and manage to do it with the threat of police brutality of racial injustice constantly looming over us. Despite all our obstacles, we still managed to build successful communities in the early 1900's, establish our own television stations, magazines (JET, ESSENCE, VIBE, XXL,ETC ETC) make an impact on music (rock and roll, rhythm and blues, hip hop)and having to fight for civil rights and AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. Some of you people just don't get it, and you simply don't want to understand. You would rather just whine and complain about your so call injustice that blacks are subjecting whites to.
Wah, wah, wah... The Amish pulled it off! Why couldn't blacks?

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#1831 Aug 21, 2013
ladondaruler1 wrote:
<quoted text>You have the worst comprehension of all the racist on this forum. You have constantly accused that poster of wanting revenge, even though none of his posts indicate such. He is pointing out why Affirmative Action is needed. To correct a wrong, not to get some damn revenge.

If me and my brother beat you up and leave you in a full body caste, and then your children seek compensation for your injuries, that's not revenge. If somehow you lost your job and are unable to provide for your children, then I along with my brother, should be held accountable for your families well being until you are able to once again provide for them. The beating only took a few minutes, but the road to recovery will take quite some time. Well, that's how life is, the act of injustice takes less time to commit as oppose to the successful solution being implemented. 200yrs of damaging a group of people is gonna require some effort and compensation on the part of the government who helped perpetrate these injustices. Just because the whites who did this are no longer alive, doesn't mean that our problem is suddenly null and void. Had my great great grandmother been raised in a normal upbringing, should would have taught my great grandmother, and she would have taught my grandmother, and she would have taught my mother and so on. You're not looking at this logically. You simply feel that other people did it, blacks can too. Other people have been compensated, other people have been assisted, other people had family over here in the states that could provide a safe haven for them. And when those people came out of their bondage, they didn't have to face discrimination at the level that blacks have had to deal with. Ignore it all you want, but it won't make reality any different.
Don't go projecting your comprehension issues onto me! You can't seem to understand nobody today, applying to college, applying for a job, or working and paying taxes to fund a bunch of parasites, was alive to commit the wrongs that you want corrected. Therefore the people getting passed over for a seat in college, or a job position, or paying part of their income to "correct a wrong" had NOTHING to do with the wrong!

It's the equivalent of a Company shafting you out of your money and filing bankruptcy. You have to get up, dust yourself off, try to make more money, and go on with life. But what you and sheeple, and the blacks propose is the equivalent of making the great great grandchild of the company owner have his or her wages garnished to eventually pay your great great grandchild back.

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#1832 Aug 21, 2013
ladondaruler1 wrote:
<quoted text>You have the worst comprehension of all the racist on this forum. You have constantly accused that poster of wanting revenge, even though none of his posts indicate such. He is pointing out why Affirmative Action is needed. To correct a wrong, not to get some damn revenge.

If me and my brother beat you up and leave you in a full body caste, and then your children seek compensation for your injuries, that's not revenge. If somehow you lost your job and are unable to provide for your children, then I along with my brother, should be held accountable for your families well being until you are able to once again provide for them. The beating only took a few minutes, but the road to recovery will take quite some time. Well, that's how life is, the act of injustice takes less time to commit as oppose to the successful solution being implemented. 200yrs of damaging a group of people is gonna require some effort and compensation on the part of the government who helped perpetrate these injustices. Just because the whites who did this are no longer alive, doesn't mean that our problem is suddenly null and void. Had my great great grandmother been raised in a normal upbringing, should would have taught my great grandmother, and she would have taught my grandmother, and she would have taught my mother and so on. You're not looking at this logically. You simply feel that other people did it, blacks can too. Other people have been compensated, other people have been assisted, other people had family over here in the states that could provide a safe haven for them. And when those people came out of their bondage, they didn't have to face discrimination at the level that blacks have had to deal with. Ignore it all you want, but it won't make reality any different.
The problem with your analogy is that everyone involved is alive at the time restitution is sought. Actually your analogy should be that your great great grandfather and his brother beat up my great great grandfather and left him unable to provide for my great grandfather, so you must pay me to correct that past wrong even though you and I came about generations after the incident. We are all responsible for ourselves. There are tons of rags to riches stories. Every individual can be one, regardless of race. But it is up to that individual.

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#1833 Aug 21, 2013
ladondaruler1 wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, I agree. There shouldn't be a single able body 20 something or 30 something year old collecting welfare. I do however believe in 'TEMPORARY' assistance if a person is laid off and have little mouths to feed. But it is hard to police these situations because most of the people running for public office are crooks to begin with. Most of these politicians aren't out for the people, they're out for their party and their pockets. Whether you vote republican or democrat, they all appear to be incompetent and complacent.
Wow! Something we actually agree on!
Well said!

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#1834 Aug 21, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Wah, wah, wah... The Amish pulled it off! Why couldn't blacks?
Wah wah wah, the Amish is a traditional christian church fellowship you uneducated buffoon. How the hell do you compare the Amish to African Americans??? There's absolutely no similarities whatsoever. Amish populations have higher incidences of particular genetic disorders, including dwarfism (Ellis–van Creveld syndrome)and various metabolic disorders,as well as an unusual distribution of blood types. The Amish represent a collection of genetically closed communities. So how does this help African Americans??? Your stupidity and ignorance is astoundingly baffling. You are an idiot to the tenth power. You actually compared a giant incestuous community to a legitimate race of people. SMH

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#1835 Aug 21, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Don't go projecting your comprehension issues onto me! You can't seem to understand nobody today, applying to college, applying for a job, or working and paying taxes to fund a bunch of parasites, was alive to commit the wrongs that you want corrected. Therefore the people getting passed over for a seat in college, or a job position, or paying part of their income to "correct a wrong" had NOTHING to do with the wrong!
It's the equivalent of a Company shafting you out of your money and filing bankruptcy. You have to get up, dust yourself off, try to make more money, and go on with life. But what you and sheeple, and the blacks propose is the equivalent of making the great great grandchild of the company owner have his or her wages garnished to eventually pay your great great grandchild back.
No, shafting someone out of their check is completely different from methodically imprisoning, punishing, oppressing, rendering defenseless, killing, raping, robbing and overall dehumanizing someone with calculating precision. That person who got shafted out of their check can easily get another job and/or should have money saved for such an event. But when someone has had their entire existence shattered, and the foundation knocked completely from underneath them, them a right must be demanded. The great great grandchildren of the evildoers have to suffer for the wrong of their ancestors, just like the great great grandchildren of the victims have to bare the burden of trying to put a community together that their ancestors were denied the right to do, but now falls on their shoulders. Your ancestors should have thought about their actions and how it may have affected their future offspring and generations to come. If you're gonna be mad at anyone, I suggest you get mad at those who are responsible for this mess in the first place. And if you neglect to clean it up, then the next generation will be handed over this burden until it is finally remedied and made right.

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#1836 Aug 21, 2013
ladondaruler1 wrote:
<quoted text>Wah wah wah, the Amish is a traditional christian church fellowship you uneducated buffoon. How the hell do you compare the Amish to African Americans??? There's absolutely no similarities whatsoever. Amish populations have higher incidences of particular genetic disorders, including dwarfism (Ellis–van Creveld syndrome)and various metabolic disorders,as well as an unusual distribution of blood types. The Amish represent a collection of genetically closed communities. So how does this help African Americans??? Your stupidity and ignorance is astoundingly baffling. You are an idiot to the tenth power. You actually compared a giant incestuous community to a legitimate race of people. SMH
They are a separate community. But nice attempt at a tangent.
The Amish are a small percentage of America that was discriminated against. They formed their own communities, educated themselves, and created their own economy. Exactly like blacks could have.

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#1837 Aug 21, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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The problem with your analogy is that everyone involved is alive at the time restitution is sought. Actually your analogy should be that your great great grandfather and his brother beat up my great great grandfather and left him unable to provide for my great grandfather, so you must pay me to correct that past wrong even though you and I came about generations after the incident. We are all responsible for ourselves. There are tons of rags to riches stories. Every individual can be one, regardless of race. But it is up to that individual.
Had the beating my great great grandfather given yours would have trickled down to the generation of today (which is not possible), then those who are in power today are obligated by their conscious to right that wrong, especially if that beating clearly left some mental scars in impoverished results in it's wake. I didn't hear you complaining about the Natives receiving compensation for their land being stripped from them, even though none of those alive today were here when it happened. I didn't hear you complaining about the U.S. providing a safe haven for Jews and the Germans giving them reparation for the holocaust,but you wanna whine about blacks. The govt. promised 40 acres and a mule, which could have been passed down to coming generations of blacks just like those whites who have received property from the homestead act did with their land. I also believe free education should have been in order, since we had been denied education for a couple centuries. If people don't wanna pay the price for atrocities, then don't commit them. Because you may leave your children or grandchildren to pay for your wrongdoings.

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#1838 Aug 21, 2013
ladondaruler1 wrote:
<quoted text>No, shafting someone out of their check is completely different from methodically imprisoning, punishing, oppressing, rendering defenseless, killing, raping, robbing and overall dehumanizing someone with calculating precision. That person who got shafted out of their check can easily get another job and/or should have money saved for such an event. But when someone has had their entire existence shattered, and the foundation knocked completely from underneath them, them a right must be demanded. The great great grandchildren of the evildoers have to suffer for the wrong of their ancestors, just like the great great grandchildren of the victims have to bare the burden of trying to put a community together that their ancestors were denied the right to do, but now falls on their shoulders. Your ancestors should have thought about their actions and how it may have affected their future offspring and generations to come. If you're gonna be mad at anyone, I suggest you get mad at those who are responsible for this mess in the first place. And if you neglect to clean it up, then the next generation will be handed over this burden until it is finally remedied and made right.
You keep losing sight of the fact no one alive today in the US enslaved anyone.
You just said it yourself, someone shafted out of a check can easily make more money. Yet sheeple and apparently you keep endorsing "correction" for blacks not passing down inheritance over a hundred years ago.
People paying the price today for the wrongs of the past, had no part in the wrongs of the past. Yet you accuse me of comprehension deficits! Lmao!!!!!

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#1839 Aug 21, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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They are a separate community. But nice attempt at a tangent.
The Amish are a small percentage of America that was discriminated against. They formed their own communities, educated themselves, and created their own economy. Exactly like blacks could have.
If you consider brothers and sisters engaging in intercourse in the name of religious purity a community, then by all means knock yourself out. The Amish are a failed community, no matter how you slice it. Oh, and educations eludes the Amish, or else they wouldn't be procreating with close family members, continuing the cycle of birth defects and mental illnesses.

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