Optimism of whites in US lags blacks ...

Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin

There are 2745 comments on the Log Cabin Democrat story from Aug 1, 2013, titled Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin. In it, Log Cabin Democrat reports that:

Americans' attitudes about their economic future are sharply divided by race, with whites significantly less likely than blacks or Hispanics to think they can improve their own standard of living.

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incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1397 Aug 16, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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I have NEVER insinuated that only minorities use those programs! Please give a post number where I did!
You liberals can not debate without putting words in your opponent's mouth.
I want to end those programs because the simply enable those who would defraud the system. Regardless of race! People who utilize those programs live as well if not better than the average working person. Why would they be motivated to go work for the same or lesser lifestyle?
It's a liberal's way to make up stuff and pretend you said it. They have no substance only ignorance, bigotry, hatred and a whole lot of hypocrisy.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1398 Aug 16, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Sure I do. But you fail to explain why blacks are over represented in those programs despite all the special treatment they receive. Not to mention, most on those programs are living better than the average working stiff.
It's all excuses!
He can't answer your sensible questions because he doesn't want to see the reality. They may accuse people of being racist when the real concern people have is why one race gets preferential treatment but also remains more so on the govt. dole in terms of percentages.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1399 Aug 16, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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No, you claim there is a separate grading formula for the SAT or ACT based on your race.
You should easily be able to provide that formula without having to post any personal information of anyone taking the exam.
I've looked at everything I can find about the ACT & SAT testing and I've never seen ANYTHING which references a different scoring formula based on the race of the individual taking the test as you keep claiming.
So? Where is this magic "formula"?
You express your ignorance well. Colleges will accept lower scores from minorities such as blacks. Next?
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1400 Aug 16, 2013
Ilkwas wrote:
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OK. So why do you want to cut those programs? Why do you insinuate that only minorities use them?
Your racism clouds rational thought. Most conservatives want to break the cycle of poverty.....break the cycle of dependence and by reducing govt. handouts. They also support the involvement of various non profits to continue providing assistance as well as providing more tax friendly opportunities for taxpayers and businesses to get involved on a voluntary basis. You think this is all about race but obviously it is not. I'm not sure why so many liberals continue to make such foolish accusations although maybe it is finally dawning on you. More whites are actually on welfare because they comprise of more than 75% of the population. Most people know that black over represent themselves on welfare and in criminal activity.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1401 Aug 16, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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I think minorities should be required to utilize those doctors... as a stipulation of Affirmative Action. I think We The Sheeple should for sure.
Then how will we entertain ourselves without the useful fools on Topix when they are in the ground as a result of malpractice?
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1402 Aug 16, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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You have yet to offer any evidence that occurred.
Once you provide proof of that which can be independently verified, then we can continue the discussion.
Otherwise it's just another of you many claims of "fact".
I'm afraid you are so blinded with hatred and ignorance, you can't think clearly. This is common knowledge and just about everyone has at least one personal experience with this. Certainly, you have not because you are obviously not a very productive person....or for that matter.....one who has very much experience in life. Get out of mommy's basement and learn something.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1403 Aug 16, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I don't use incompetent people regardless of their race.
My current primary care physician is an Indian-American. The first 3 doctors I was referred to were all white and all incompetent; they seemed more interested in my level of insurance coverage than my health.
Hmmmm, how do you know they were incompetent? Are you a medical professional? How did you determine they were incompetent besides the color of their skin and your hatred of whites? You are such a pathetic joke of a creature.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1404 Aug 16, 2013
Ilkwas wrote:
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Who stole your money? If you don't like the way your tax money is spent talk to those responsible.
Maybe your father is not an example of white privilege. If he were African American and in his circumstances do you think that he would have faired better?
Absolutely. I've seen less qualified blacks take up valuable spots in business and schools. I've seen many whites get passed over....even if they are brighter and more qualified. It's because they are white. The demographic hit the hardest is the white male.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1405 Aug 16, 2013
Ilkwas wrote:
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OK. So why do you want to cut those programs? Why do you insinuate that only minorities use them?
No one has ever insinuated blacks only use those programs, except you. Please quit making up shyt.

Level 2

Since: May 08

Highland, CA

#1406 Aug 16, 2013
Here something people should know.
A large part of the economy, and rather it goes up or down is based on how people feel and if they are optimistic or pessimistic.
As long as we stay divided and the side that lose an election fell screwed over and are pessimistic about the future our economy is going to stay in poor shape.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1407 Aug 16, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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But wait, all the minorities are the best qualified according to you. You should have no problem utilizing them for all your medical, legal, and building needs!
Nope, never said that either.

I simply reminded you that you have YET to provide ANY proof that a minority is LESS qualified than white people just because they're a minority.

Unlike racists such as yourself, I have no problem with my doctor or lawyer or builder being a minority.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1408 Aug 16, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Sure I do. But you fail to explain why blacks are over represented in those programs despite all the special treatment they receive. Not to mention, most on those programs are living better than the average working stiff.
It's all excuses!
Blacks are over represented in welfare programs because more of them are poor, despite a few lame programs which obviously have failed to make any significant difference.

Gee, you really can't understand how that works?

Only a moron would claim someone on welfare is living better than the average worker.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1409 Aug 16, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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But wait, all the minorities are the best qualified according to you. You should have no problem utilizing them for all your medical, legal, and building needs!
Btw, we're STILL waiting for you to post that SAT & ACT grading formula which gives minorities higher scores for the same answers.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1411 Aug 16, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text> You express your ignorance well. Colleges will accept lower scores from minorities such as blacks. Next?
Scores aren't the only measure of a person's potential.

Colleges and businesses are free to use whatever criteria they want to determine what makes someone more qualified than someone else.

Personally I hired based on experience, motivation, & work ethic as opposed to test scores or degrees- or skin color.

But his claim was that there is a separate scoring formula for minority candidates taking the SAT or ACT college exams which supposedly gives them a higher score even if they give the exact same answers as a white person.

I was asking for proof such a formula exists.

As usual, he can't supply ANY evidence whatsoever.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1412 Aug 16, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
Nope, nothing at all about a separate scoring formula for minorities taking the ACT or SAT.

Try again......

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1413 Aug 16, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text> I'm afraid you are so blinded with hatred and ignorance, you can't think clearly. This is common knowledge and just about everyone has at least one personal experience with this. Certainly, you have not because you are obviously not a very productive person....or for that matter.....one who has very much experience in life. Get out of mommy's basement and learn something.
Right, just like it was "common knowledge" that the sun revolved around the earth, and the earth was flat, and blacks were dumber than whites, and cigarettes were good for you, etc, etc.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1414 Aug 16, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Hmmmm, how do you know they were incompetent? Are you a medical professional? How did you determine they were incompetent besides the color of their skin and your hatred of whites? You are such a pathetic joke of a creature.
20+ years in Navy medicine, so YES, I'm a medical professional.

And I can spot an incompetent doctor who is more concerned with how much money they can get out of me with just a 5 minute interview.

You aren't actually stupid enough to assume your doctor is competent just because they have a degree and are white?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1415 Aug 16, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text> Absolutely. I've seen less qualified blacks take up valuable spots in business and schools. I've seen many whites get passed over....even if they are brighter and more qualified. It's because they are white. The demographic hit the hardest is the white male.
Ooooh, the poor white male!

Why is it we NEVER hear your type complaining about the 200+ years when the ONLY acceptable qualification for most jobs (except picking cotton) and any political office was white male?

Ooooh, boo hoo, the white male doesn't automatically go to the head of the line anymore. They might have to actually COMPETE for jobs & positions now with those (ugh) minorities & (ick) women & (ewww) the gays.

Ooooh, the poor white male!

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1416 Aug 16, 2013
KajetanStefanowicz wrote:
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White Privilege!?
As a Polish American from an Italian American neighborhood I ask where is our White privilege.
Ask why my Italian friends have had Anti Italian slurs thrown in their face & the same for Polish for me.
Why this prejudice is neglected because we are "White"
Why the media pushes prejudices against Italians & Polish it wouldn't dare push against Blacks & Hispanics to the same degree.
I don't condone (nor do I really believe) you being a victim of the media pushing prejudice against Italians & Poles.

But if you think that's bad, then imagine being a black Italian, or a Hispanic Pole.

You STILL benefit from white privilege, just as I do even though I experience more discrimination for being gay & left handed.

I recognize it could be worse; I could be black & gay & left handed and experience even MORE discrimination from even MORE people.
Dane Thorsen

AOL

#1417 Aug 16, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Blacks are over represented in welfare programs because more of them are poor, despite a few lame programs which obviously have failed to make any significant difference.
Gee, you really can't understand how that works?
Only a moron would claim someone on welfare is living better than the average worker.
History shows that any time America settles for a Leftwing Govt we must accept that FACTS will not be Checked before Tax Slave funded Benies are showered on potential Voters.

The more a person wants the Govt to rob from others to give to you...the more apt a Voter is to stagger into a polling place and Vote for anyThing with a D beside it's name on a Ballot.

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